115 replies to this topic

[Dehere]

Varying opinions on this in other threads. To me it's got to be on Welker. Not a perfect throw but that's a catch that NFL receivers make every week.

[SeoulSoxFan]

No offense, but just wondering what purpose this serves. It's like choosing between drinking Drano or weed killer.

[mascho]

Was not a perfect throw. But a catchable ball. Both hands on it, and even though he was in an awkward position, that is a catch NFL wide receivers have to make.

[LesterFan]

Where's the both option?

[LTF]

No offense, but just wondering what purpose this serves. It's like choosing between drinking Drano or weed killer.

What purpose does this serve? My wife is coming home from work in 15 minutes. I'm drunk and I need to know whose name I should continually evoke when I beat her.

[ilol@u]

Brady threw the ball right into Welker's hands. Not a perfect throw, but it should have been made, it hit him in the hands. But Welker didn't cost this team the Superbowl.

[MannysGoldGlove]

I voted for Welker, the pass wasnt perfect but a NFL WR should make that catch.

[Ed Hillel]

Please lock this.

[LTF]

Nope. We're gonna keep this fucker open the entire off-season.

[DannyHeep]

You are mean.

[Ferm Sheller]

It's Welker's fault. What kind of question is this? Hit both of his hands when they were six inches apart. What does he want, a fucking handoff?

[Dehere]

No offense, but just wondering what purpose this serves. It's like choosing between drinking Drano or weed killer.

Fair or unfair this is going to be the most discussed play of XLVI. Just want to see how people here saw it. Not looking to put salt in any wounds.

[Huntington Avenue Grounds]

Hard not to blame Welker when the ball hits his hands. The MFG (yes, they deserve an acronym) catch those when it counts to beat us, CATCH THE FUCKING BALL.

[BoredViewer]

Should've been a better throw, but if you want to win the Super Bowl - you've got to make that catch.

[Mystic Merlin]

Who gives a shit? They both fucked up.

[RedOctober3829]

Both deserve some criticism for the incompletion. Brady overthrew him, but Welker stopped his route short just a bit to where the overthrow happened. Welker should have made the play, but Brady made it very difficult for him to catch it.

[SemperFidelisSox]

The real tragedy about Buckner in '86 was that such a great player was going to have that one play associated with his career for the rest of his life. It rendered everything else he ever did before or after it in his career almost meaningless. I love Welker. Great guy, great teammate, great player. But that drop....it's his legacy here. And that's unfortunate.

Edited by SemperFidelisSox, 05 February 2012 - 11:38 PM.

[Oogies Loogies]

If you're a GOAT, you make a better throw than that. If you don't, you're a goat.

Edited by Oogies Loogies, 05 February 2012 - 11:38 PM.

[Hendu's Gait]

throw was to the wrong shoulder. And he missed Branch twice, both on that drive and on the Hail Myra drive.

[Harry Hooper]

If you're a GOAT, you make a better throw than that. If you don't, you're a goat.

Brady put that one where he wanted to; he was leading Welker away from the defender. Welker didn't catch it. More importantly, however, was both lines for the Giants dominating the LOS in the4th quarter.

[Rudy Pemberton]

Could have caught it, could have been a better throw. Also could have stopped the Giants on the ensuing drive. Lots of missed opportunities that could have changed the game. Ultimately, who cares. Whats done is done. If blaming Welket makes you feel better, go for it, but I'm sure he wanted to catch it and wanted to win more than fans like us did.

[chester]

The real tragedy about Buckner in '86 was that such a great player was going to have that one play associated with his career for the rest of his life. It rendered everything else he ever did before or after it in his career almost meaningless. I love Welker. Great guy, great teammate, great player. But that drop....it's his legacy here. And that's unfortunate.

Well anyone who really knows what happened in '86 knows Buckner is not all to blame and in this case its even more so not all on Welker. The very next play if Deion Branch sits in a fucking hole then he picks up the first or if Brady had the balls to lead him or throw it over that LB than they pick up the first roughly at the same spot.

AND even more importantly Welker has plenty of time to redeem himself and I believe will.

[chester]

Brady put that one where he wanted to; he was leading Welker away from the defender. Welker didn't catch it. More importantly, however, was both lines for the Giants dominating the LOS in the4th quarter.

I couldn't agree more about why Brady threw it the way he did, he had a choice to set Welker up for a big hit after the catch or give him the chance to make a good catch. I don't know if I completely agree with the Patriots O-line getting dominated in the 4th, Brady had his chances. The Pats D-line on the other hand got very little pressure especially up the middle to move Eli of his mark

[Harry Hooper]

I don't know if I completely agree with the Patriots O-line getting dominated in the 4th, Brady had his chances.

If you have the stomach, watch the replay. Brady pulled a bunch of magic escape acts in the 4th just to have a chance to make a play.

[soPhisHticated]

Ball hits one just one outstretched hand? it's the QB's fault.

Ball hits both of the receivers hands - and he can see the ball? it's his fault.

[CaptainLaddie]

What purpose does this serve? My wife is coming home from work in 15 minutes. I'm drunk and I need to know whose name I should continually evoke when I beat her.

This is FUCKING AWESOME.

[CaptainLaddie]

Ball hits one just one outstretched hand? it's the QB's fault.

Ball hits both of the receivers hands - and he can see the ball? it's his fault.

HEY YOU FUCKTARD DIE IN A FIRE,.

[Al Zarilla]

Brady's throw to Welker was exactly like Eli's throws to all of his receivers most of the time: high but extremely catchable. Eli almost always errs on the high side, but it's no problem with his receivers. They go up and get it, Wes didn't.

Start a poll on the safety. That wasn't Brady's fault either. Where was the checkdown, or safety valve guy? I have to go back and look, but I don't think there was any receiver close by for him to even throw near his feet. He had to either get rid of the ball somewhere or eat it in the end zone...safety either way. That safety was on some receiver or the coach that drew up the play.

[Hendu's Gait]

Ball hits one just one outstretched hand? it's the QB's fault.

Ball hits both of the receivers hands - and he can see the ball? it's his fault.

Don't you have cheese sandwiches to grill or something?

[Frank McBain]

This game needed more Woodhead. Fuck all of you.

[SWHB]

Brady's throw to Welker was exactly like Eli's throws to all of his receivers most of the time: high but extremely catchable. Eli almost always errs on the high side, but it's no problem with his receivers. They go up and get it, Wes didn't.

Start a poll on the safety. That wasn't Brady's fault either. Where was the checkdown, or safety valve guy? I have to go back and look, but I don't think there was any receiver close by for him to even throw near his feet. He had to either get rid of the ball somewhere or eat it in the end zone...safety either way. That safety was on some receiver or the coach that drew up the play.

I agree with the first part, but disagree with the second. Brady had enough time that he could have either 1) moved out of the pocket before throwing it away, 2) thrown it in the vicinity of a receiver downfield, or 3) thrown it away before he was under pressure. However, I still don't ever remember seeing a safety called in that situation - he looked like he threw the ball directly over Branch's head (by like 10 feet), which is normally close enough to a receiver to get the call, and it's not like he was in the grasp or anything...

[Hendu's Gait]

Brady's throw to Welker was exactly like Eli's throws to all of his receivers most of the time: high but extremely catchable. Eli almost always errs on the high side, but it's no problem with his receivers. They go up and get it, Wes didn't.

Additionally, they are already "higher up", so to speak.

[BigSoxFan]

That drop is definitely on Welker.

[soPhisHticated]

Don't you have cheese sandwiches to grill or something?

With 30 minutes to cook at halftime? That, burritos and some really kick ass brownies!

[soPhisHticated]

HEY YOU FUCKTARD DIE IN A FIRE,.

Dude - I'd return fire if you weren't so damned eggshell fragile right now. When your vaginal bruising subsides, I will hit you back.

[Darnell's Son]

To me, it's Welker. Was it a perfect pass? Of course not. Was it a catchable pass? Of course. If Welker is supposed to be an elite WR(I think he is), then he has to catch that ball. Brady could have led him, but Welker got both hands on the ball and failed to execute.

[Mystic Merlin]

You learn a lot about opposing fans in these situations. Some are acquitting themselves better than others.

[CaptainLaddie]

With 30 minutes to cook at halftime? That, burritos and some really kick ass brownies!

Die in a fire.

And Phish sucks.

[CaptainLaddie]

Dude - I'd return fire if you weren't so damned eggshell fragile right now. When your vaginal bruising subsides, I will hit you back.

Ironically, I'm hardly fragile. This sucks, but it doesn't suck nearly as much as your dumb as fuck preseason prediction. I'd rather be a Patriots fan than lose to the Broncos 3 weeks ago. You're a fucktard who deserves castration to ensure your bloodline does not continue.

Meet me anywhere. I mean that.

Edited by CaptainLaddie, 06 February 2012 - 12:30 AM.

[Darnell's Son]

Meet me anywhere.

Shut up, it's all your fault. You should have been in a hotel room, damnit!

[CaptainLaddie]

Shut up, it's all your fault. You should have been in a hotel room, damnit!

ANYWHERE BUT A HOTEL ROOM

[Darnell's Son]

I bet Dogman2 is weeping in a hotel room. I still love him unconditionally.

[CaptainLaddie]

I bet Dogman2 is weeping in a hotel room. I still love him unconditionally.

SAME.
Honestly, I'm pissed and all but it could be a lot worse. I could be a Browns fan.

[DeJesus Built My Hotrod]

Nope. We're gonna keep this fucker open the entire off-season.

Is this what you say in the delivery room after the birth of one of your many, many spawn?

[soPhisHticated]

Ironically, I'm hardly fragile. This sucks, but it doesn't suck nearly as much as your dumb as fuck preseason prediction. I'd rather be a Patriots fan than lose to the Broncos 3 weeks ago. You're a fucktard who deserves castration to ensure your bloodline does not continue.

Meet me anywhere. I mean that.

I'll meet you anywhere w/in the I-495 belt tonight to spark up a vessel of understanding and enlightenment. Everything will be OK if you let it happen, el capitan. :-)


When the Pats and Brady were winning superbowls, they employed a deep threat and a running game. Both have been missing for some time, not to mention a stiff defense up to the task. Assume Gronk was 100% today - where was the deep threat? The running game? The defense?

[BigSoxFan]

If the offense does its job, we win. It's that simple. The defense played as well as we could have hoped given the personnel we have on hand.

[CaptainLaddie]

I'll meet you anywhere w/in the I-495 belt tonight to spark up a vessel of understanding and enlightenment. Everything will be OK if you let it happen, el capitan. :-)


When the Pats and Brady were winning superbowls, they employed a deep threat and a running game. Both have been missing for some time, not to mention a stiff defense up to the task. Assume Gronk was 100% today - where was the deep threat? The running game? The defense?

Spark up. That was actually funny.

Sorry for all this. I'm pissed and I think you're a dick, but that was actually funny.

I am in no shape to drive, but the fact is that you were horribly wrong about this team.

[SeoulSoxFan]

Jesus - obviously Welker was crying or was on the verge of breaking down at the press conference.

Sign this f*cker and we go for it all over again.

[notfar]

for those of us that missed the press conference:

http://www.nytimes.c...&pagewanted=all

[worm0082]

Wes, you're nothing to me now. You're not a brother, you're not a friend. I don't want to know you or what you do. I don't want to see you at the hotels, I don't want you near my house. When you see our coach, I want to know a day in advance, so I won't be there. You understand?

Edited by worm0082, 06 February 2012 - 04:33 AM.