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February NHL Game Thread
Posted 27 February 2012 - 08:13 PM
Posted 27 February 2012 - 08:38 PM
Edited by sachmoney, 27 February 2012 - 08:38 PM.
Posted 27 February 2012 - 08:41 PM
Posted 27 February 2012 - 08:44 PM
4 shots each in the first. Truly partying like it's 1999.
If you're not watching Devils/Rags, you're missing a brutal hitting battle.
Posted 27 February 2012 - 09:02 PM
Took him awhile, but the gloves reluctantly come off against Boulton.
Edited by cshea, 27 February 2012 - 09:02 PM.
Posted 27 February 2012 - 09:03 PM
Posted 27 February 2012 - 09:10 PM
Good scrap here with Dubinsky.
Posted 27 February 2012 - 09:12 PM
Posted 27 February 2012 - 09:14 PM
Posted 27 February 2012 - 09:21 PM
Posted 28 February 2012 - 01:34 PM
Posted 28 February 2012 - 01:40 PM
Posted 28 February 2012 - 01:43 PM
Are we at the point in the season and the standings where the Rangers winning that game is good for the B's? They are far enough ahead of Boston that keeping NJ from getting closer might be more valuable than the small chance that the B's can catch the NYR in the standings.
It actually does't really matter what NJ does. The B's are basically locked into the 2 seed, due to the division winners getting seeded 1-3. The only teams the B's would be scoreboard watching are Ottawa and the Rangers. Philly, Pittsburgh and New Jersey are all irrelevant in terms of catching the B's.
Edited by cshea, 28 February 2012 - 01:45 PM.
Posted 28 February 2012 - 01:45 PM
It actually does't really matter what NJ does. The B's are basically locked into the 2 seed, due to the division winners getting seeded 1-3. The only teams the B's would be scoreboard watching is Ottawa and the Rangers. Philly, Pittsburgh and New Jersey are all irrelevant in terms of catching the B's.
Posted 28 February 2012 - 04:53 PM
Personally, I'd like to avoid that.
Posted 28 February 2012 - 09:45 PM
Posted 28 February 2012 - 10:45 PM
Emelin's a good hitter and a solid d-man, but I hope he goes back to the KHL before too much Montreal rubs off on him.
Posted 29 February 2012 - 03:33 PM
Malone wasn’t as displeased with the hit as he was with Emelin refusing to fight him.
“It’s not old school hockey, it’s pretty much hockey,” Malone said. “ If they feel they can take a cheap shot at someone and then not stand up for themselves, that’s the way they play. I think I always played fair where if I take a cheap shot at someone you have to kind of pay your dues.”
When told Emelin no longer fights because his face got smashed in and rebuilt with metal plates after a 2009 scrap in the KHL, Malone said that was T.S. (which stands for Tethered Swimming, of course.)
Lightning head coach Guy Boucher stood behind Malone with his post-game comments.
“The blind hit he got there, that’s extremely dangerous,” Boucher said. “He had no puck. The puck didn’t even come close to him; a blind-side hit with no puck. we’re just lucky Malone is that tough that he could take that check. He took care of his own business.”
Edited by PedroSpecialK, 29 February 2012 - 03:36 PM.
Posted 29 February 2012 - 08:27 PM
In the other game, Nystrom may have concussed Letang.
Posted 29 February 2012 - 08:54 PM
In the other game, Nystrom may have concussed Letang.
Looked like a cheap shot.
Posted 29 February 2012 - 08:58 PM
Posted 29 February 2012 - 10:44 PM
Posted 29 February 2012 - 11:56 PM
Honestly, I'm torn on this. The hit was very unnecessary but it was also a shoulder and Letang was leaning down. Don't blame the Pens for their reaction either but I don't know, I see maybe just a fine here.
Posted 01 March 2012 - 12:07 AM
I thought Roenick was dumb - I didn't think he was that dumb. Would've liked to see Milbury beat him a shoe there.
I can see people defending Nystrom's hit as not being to the head - but that's not the point here. If the puck is up for grabs, play the puck - don't forego puck pursuit for the sole purpose of knocking a player into next week.
Edited by PedroSpecialK, 01 March 2012 - 12:08 AM.
Posted 01 March 2012 - 12:13 AM
Posted 01 March 2012 - 12:33 AM
The hit on Malone was significantly worse. An open ice blindside hit when it was obvious Malone never touched the puck. It shouldn't matter that Malone was lucky not to get injured, it was a far dirtier hit. Just a complete horseshit hit by a guy who won't back it up. It's somewhat understandable he won't fight after seeing that KHL video. But if you're physically unable/unwilling to fight, don't be a habitual line-stepper like Emelin is. This isn't the first time he's been accused of a dirty hit and I doubt it will be the last
Posted 01 March 2012 - 12:37 AM
I was just reminded of Charlie Murphy and I thank you for it.
But if you're physically unable/unwilling to fight, don't be a habitual line-stepper like Emelin is.
Edited by PedroSpecialK, 01 March 2012 - 12:43 AM.
Posted 01 March 2012 - 01:08 AM
- He didn't go out of his way to make the hit. The Stars are trying to cycle the puck in that corner and Nystrom is doing exactly what he's supposed to coming down the boards to try to keep the cycle going
- He came straight at Letang.
- Nystrom had a legit reason to hit Letang: he wasn't going to get the puck and had to knock Letang down to prevent him from skating past him and joining the rush. This is exactly what he's supposed to do.
- I'm not 100% sure but it looks to me like the main point of contact was Letang's right shoulder. Maybe Nystrom's shoulder grazed Letang's face or something.
Basically what happened was Letang was trying to beat the cycle by shoving the puck up the boards and dodging around Nystrom to either get to the puck and make a pass/rush the puck out, or recieve a pass from his winger and skate the puck out. Nystrom sees this and tries to hit him, but Letang takes the hit kind of funny because he had lunged to tap the puck up the boards and dodged sideways to avoid the hit.
I don't want to sound like one of those idiots whining about "wussifying the game", but if you ban this hit, you've removed a lot of perfectly legitimate ones and probably rendered the cycle inneffective. This is a situation where an NHL defenseman should expect to take a hit and not put himself in a wierd position to get drilled.
Also Milbury is a complete idiot. Wasn't he whining a while back about the league trying to stop hits like the ones on Savard and Booth? He's just sensed a shift in perception and has now overcorrected.
Edited by Jettisoned, 01 March 2012 - 01:13 AM.
Posted 01 March 2012 - 07:27 AM
Posted 01 March 2012 - 07:44 AM
Nystrom was flying down the boards and had his stick on the ice until the last second, he then took one of his two options.
He 'loaded up' for contact, but didn't go out of his way; Letang was just positioned in an unfortunate way.
With that said, I don't blame the Pens for confronting Nystrom, either.
Between the two of them, JR seems to be the rational one.
Posted 01 March 2012 - 08:54 AM
Yes, because all injurious hits are illegal and should be suspendable. This is one that is very much in the gray area. It's a penalty for sure but I think it's a fine if anything. It's a two-way street for both the hitter and the hittee.
If you don't mind players missing major chunks of the season or become permanently disabled then you probably won't see anything wrong with this hit.
Posted 01 March 2012 - 09:01 AM
Posted 01 March 2012 - 09:33 AM
Posted 01 March 2012 - 11:18 AM
My main beef is that the puck was there to be played and Nystrom made a conscious decision not to play it. I don't think it's anything close to five games like Milbury is saying, and Letang certainly didn't do himself any favors, but IMO it's mutually beneficial for Nystrom and Letang if Nystrom makes some sort of effort to play the puck - perhaps a cycle is started in the corner if Nystrom gets a stick or his body in front of the puck. By choosing to go after Letang's body, he nipped this possibility in the bud.
I don't think it's a suspendable hit, but I think it's a stupid hockey play to choose to attempt to level someone with a body check instead of stopping to play the puck. NHL players are pretty good at stopping, it's not like he is actually on rails. The hit here is just another indication that any kind of respect for one another is almost dead in the game. There's just no reason for that play to occur the way it did. Can you legislate that back into the game through enforcement of unwritten rules? I don't think so, but maybe it's worth a try. I'm not sure what the solution is, the old days of having a handful of teams where everyone knows each other or even speaks the same language are way dead.
The idea of body checking is to knock an opponent off the puck for you or a teammate. To whiz by a loose puck to make a big hit is just inane. The sport is markedly worse and declining because of this stuff though. Something needs to be attempted to stop it from continuing and I don't really care if it's harsher written rules, more suspensions, softer padding, mandatory full face masks, or a combination thereof.
Posted 01 March 2012 - 01:59 PM
I can't speak for the 1950s-1980s but I kind of doubt it was all that clean then, either. The players were worse athletes, took longer shifts and people didn't know or didn't care about concussions.
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