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[SoxFanPJ]

Thanks I am trying to live up to the standards put forth by our SOSH four fathers...

Not to judge but i am fascinated, you are the product of a polygamous gay marriage?

[OttoC]

Pidailla facing arrest in Nicaragua for non-payment of child support (in spite of making around $50 million so far in the majors). His passport was revoked and a capture order was issued.

Peter Abraham

[TedsColdHead]

Pidailla facing arrest in Nicaragua for non-payment of child support (in spite of making around $50 million so far in the majors). His passport was revoked and a capture order was issued.

Peter Abraham

Update from Abraham: Arrest order has been revoked, but he still has passport issues until he settles his support issues.

[The Boomer]

Update from Abraham: Arrest order has been revoked, but he still has passport issues until he settles his support issues.

That's more like what they do in Virginia. They suspend your driver's license and a professional license once you get more than $5000 in arrears. He ought to be able to ransom himself back to the U.S.

[JimBoSox9]

Not to judge but i am fascinated, you are the product of a polygamous gay marriage?

No, apparently we collectively all are.

Myself, I thought it was a sly reference to "Lethal Weapon 4".

[SoxScout]

"There were other teams that wanted my services but as a reliever," Padilla said. "I think I can still start games and the Red Sox had the opportunity here for me to be a starter and they gave me a chance to win a rotation spot."

For that reason, Padilla's mentality during this spring training is to win the starting job or bust. When asked if he would accept a bullpen role with the Red Sox, the veteran answered "probably not."

"Because I want to be a starter and I'd just keep looking for a chance to become a starter," Padilla said. "If I can't do it here, then I'll try somewhere else."

No swing-man role for VP

[koufax32]

That's too bad as his stuff could be useful in a jam in the 7th or 8th. So he is the five man until Dice returns. We trade him, get something in return, and everyone is happy.

[dbn]

No, apparently we collectively all are.

As a Fraternity brother of mine once said, "None of us is as dumb as all of us."

[Plympton91]

Um, does he have some kind of gentleman's agreement with the Red Sox that he'll get released if he's not in the rotation? Because, otherwise, its not like he can just walk away if they slot him in the pen, right? I guess he's not a team player, so maybe he's making it known that he'll be a pain in the ass if he's not accommodated. Frankly, given this bit of attempted blackmail, I'd be inclined to send him packing unless its pretty clear he's the best option.

[lexrageorge]

Um, does he have some kind of gentleman's agreement with the Red Sox that he'll get released if he's not in the rotation? Because, otherwise, its not like he can just walk away if they slot him in the pen, right? I guess he's not a team player, so maybe he's making it known that he'll be a pain in the ass if he's not accommodated. Frankly, given this bit of attempted blackmail, I'd be inclined to send him packing unless its pretty clear he's the best option.

There probably was a gentlemen's agreement; we sign you, give you a chance to compete for the 5-spot. If it don't work out, we'll send you on your way so you can try elsewhere. It's not all that unusual.

[redsox2020]

Padilla still has just a minor league deal & invite to spring training, correct? Doesn't sound like he's out of line with his expectations.

[JakeRae]

Um, does he have some kind of gentleman's agreement with the Red Sox that he'll get released if he's not in the rotation? Because, otherwise, its not like he can just walk away if they slot him in the pen, right? I guess he's not a team player, so maybe he's making it known that he'll be a pain in the ass if he's not accommodated. Frankly, given this bit of attempted blackmail, I'd be inclined to send him packing unless its pretty clear he's the best option.

He's not a prospect. If he signed with the expectation that he was competing for a starters job and that he would not be used in the bullpen (and it seems likely that was the case given his recent comments) then he has every right to make public that fact to put pressure on the club to hold to its promise. I think you are overreacting here. If he isn't working out, the Red Sox can send him packing later. Right now, he could very well be the frontrunner for the 5th starter slot that he wants, so why cut him because he doesn't want to end up in the bullpen if he doesn't get the starter slot? He's on a minor league contract. He can start games in AAA and be injury insurance if he doesn't make the 25 man. Frankly, that's a better use for him than joining the bullpen at the start of the season anyway.

[Plympton91]

He's not a prospect. If he signed with the expectation that he was competing for a starters job and that he would not be used in the bullpen (and it seems likely that was the case given his recent comments) then he has every right to make public that fact to put pressure on the club to hold to its promise. I think you are overreacting here. If he isn't working out, the Red Sox can send him packing later. Right now, he could very well be the frontrunner for the 5th starter slot that he wants, so why cut him because he doesn't want to end up in the bullpen if he doesn't get the starter slot? He's on a minor league contract. He can start games in AAA and be injury insurance if he doesn't make the 25 man. Frankly, that's a better use for him than joining the bullpen at the start of the season anyway.

I thought he was on a major league contract, my bad.

But I wasn't saying cut him now, I was saying that I would hold this lack of willingness to be a team player against him if the decision at the end of spring training were a close call between him and someone else. I could easily see Padilla, Cook, and Ohlendorf making this a tough decision. Frankly, I'd be even more so inclined since he's on a minor league contract and can be stuck in Pawtucket while a guy who looks equally good as of March 31st and wouldn't object to more of a swingman role -- they can skip the 5th starter quite a bit -- gets the first chance.

[Rudy Pemberton]

If he's not willing to relieve for the Sox, I find it hard to believe he's interested in reporting to Pawtucket. I assume if he doesn't win the 5th starters spot, he's released.

[Sprowl]

The Red Sox have a reputation for treating their acquired veteran pitchers well. Both Brad Penny and John Smoltz spoke well of the shoulder strength programs. It's worth playing softball with people like Padilla and Cook -- honor their wishes, and the word gets around.

It might even get around to Roy Oswalt someday.

[kieckeredinthehead]

The Red Sox have a reputation for treating their acquired veteran pitchers well. Both Brad Penny and John Smoltz spoke well of the shoulder strength programs. It's worth playing softball with people like Padilla and Cook -- honor their wishes, and the word gets around.

It might even get around to Roy Oswalt someday.

Just so long as he doesn't take a look at Penny and Smoltz's actual stats while with the Sox.

[Red(s)HawksFan]

If he's not willing to relieve for the Sox, I find it hard to believe he's interested in reporting to Pawtucket. I assume if he doesn't win the 5th starters spot, he's released.

With the new CBA, they don't have to release him if he's unhappy with where they send him or what role they give him. He can opt-out on May 1. And I would think that unless there's a team that is in real need of a starter when camp breaks, he's not going to gain anything by demanding to be released on April 4. And if there was such a team, and Padilla fit their need, a trade would be worked out rather than a release.

So if Padilla doesn't win the job out of spring training, they'll send him to Pawtucket whether he likes it or not. If for no other reason than to maintain some depth for at least a month. If he opts out on 5/1, so be it. But why should they force the issue unless it is crystal clear they won't ever use him (i.e. he's effectively 8th or 9th on the depth chart)?

[TheoShmeo]

I thought he was on a major league contract, my bad.

But I wasn't saying cut him now, I was saying that I would hold this lack of willingness to be a team player against him if the decision at the end of spring training were a close call between him and someone else. I could easily see Padilla, Cook, and Ohlendorf making this a tough decision. Frankly, I'd be even more so inclined since he's on a minor league contract and can be stuck in Pawtucket while a guy who looks equally good as of March 31st and wouldn't object to more of a swingman role -- they can skip the 5th starter quite a bit -- gets the first chance.

I hope it's just down to merit. Meaning that I want the guy in the 5th starter role who they think will do the best getting the ball every fifth day (or whenever called upon if they skip the fifth starter once in a while). It's not that I don't take your points about attitude and flexibility. I just don't mind a guy who says "I'm a starter dammit" and more to the point, I assume they all of the guys they have in contention will be motivated enough to behave in the early part of the season and will, in the end, give them enough flexibility. If there comes a time when they would have preferred to move Padilla to the pen and just can't do that for whatever reason, so be it.

[trekfan55]

Key portion in the Padilla quote:

"There were other teams that wanted my services but as a reliever," Padilla said. "I think I can still start games and the Red Sox had the opportunity here for me to be a starter and they gave me a chance to win a rotation spot."

This basically meand Padilla knew, and knows, there are no guarantees. He thinks the best chance to earn this spot is with Boston, or maybe Boston is the only team that was willing to give him a chance as a starter. My guess is there is some kind of gentleman's agreement here, because the Sox can very well keep him until May1st if they want.

[rembrat]

Padilla has thrown seven innings in three games. Valentine said there are no plans to give him a start, which could indicate Padilla is not in the mix for a rotation spot.

"Padilla made it look easy, didn't he?" Valentine said. "There's probably a change in the lineup that made it [easier]. But I think he does that. He can throw a lot of pitches that get off the head of the bat. He's a strike thrower, probably the best strike-thrower we have."

http://www.boston.co..._pitcher_3.html

Those two comments lead you to believe that Padilla is being groomed to pitch out of the bullpen and possibly take over Aceves' role of multi inning relief. He could always be a swingman - making a spot start if needed.

[SoxScout]

Has he said anything since he told the media he was starting or leaving?

[redsox2020]

Has he said anything since he told the media he was starting or leaving?

Padilla eyes rotation, but would accept 'pen role

Edited by redsox2020, 13 March 2012 - 10:08 PM.

[trekfan55]

Rob Bradford on twitter

Padilla said through translator that he would rather stay with Red Sox in bullpen than go to another team right now