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I like the Profootball Talk write up better:

"Otah was a massive talent, but has only played four games the last two seasons as he battled injury and conditioning issues. Many within the Panthers organization thought it was a lack of toughness, more than anything. They’ll move forward with former undrafted rookie Byron Bell at right tackle. Bell played acceptably well last year, subbing for Otah."

So I guess the idea of calling Otah a huge upgrade over Wayne hunter is kind of in the eye of the beholder. Granted, we all saw how poorly Hunter played last season, but I struggle to declare it an upgrade when the replacement is described with terms such as "conditioning issues", "lack of toughness", replaced with "an undrafted rookie".

[TheoShmeo]

Huge move. No more Wayne Hunter. Otah is a huge upgrade over him.

They've handed Otah the job? Or is he slated to be a back-up or, at minimum, battle Hunter for the job? The Jets are thin at back-up lineman. Rich Cimini said today on Sirius XM that Hunter would be starting and the Jets would be looking to improve their reserves.

[RedOctober3829]

They've handed Otah the job? Or is he slated to be a back-up or, at minimum, battle Hunter for the job? The Jets are thin at back-up lineman. Rich Cimini said today on Sirius XM that Hunter would be starting and the Jets would be looking to improve their reserves.

If Otah is healthy, he starts.

[soxfan121]

Huge move. No more Wayne Hunter. Otah is a huge upgrade over him.

I agree - if healthy. The knee may or may not hold up for 16+, and if not, then it's back to Hunter, with the added bonus of Hunter being slightly miffed at being replaced.

[RedOctober3829]

This is awesome.

The Jets might be further expanding Tim Tebow's role again, making him the most multi-tasking backup quarterback in the league.

According to Pro Football Talk, the Jets are considering using him on their kickoff team now in addition to the personal protector on their punt team, hoping to utilize his speed.

That’s the word from Jets assistant special teams coach Ben Kotwica, who told Manish Mehta of the New York Daily News that the team is considering using Tebow on their kickoff coverage team. Kotwica said that he’s not concerned about Tebow’s speed getting down the field or about his ability to make a tackle when he gets down there.

“When he’s in coverage, he’ll be looking to tackle the returner,” Kotwica said. “And from what I’ve seen, I’ve got a pretty high degree of confidence that he would be able to do that.”

http://www.csnne.com...43&feedID=10426

[tims4wins]

It's fantastic. Opposing teams won't be trying to cream him or anything.

[Ed Hillel]

I assume he'll be snapping and punting, as well.

[Old Fart Tree]

It's fantastic. Opposing teams won't be trying to cream him or anything.

It's super unlikely that a fringe NFL special teamer trying to make a name for himself would try to smash the shit out of the golden boy press darling Heisman winning QB, right?

[drleather2001]

"How can we use this guy so we can build a marketing campaign around him, without actually giving him a major role in the Offense?"

[kenneycb]

I assume he'll be snapping and punting, as well.

Might as well teach him the drop kick to really keep teams on their toes on 4th down in the red zone.

[Corsi]

Shocker: Newly acquited T Jeff Otah failed Jets physical; placed on active/PUP.

https://twitter.com/...256305255694336

[soxfan121]

https://twitter.com/...256305255694336

Welcome back Wayne Hunter!!

[phragle]

https://twitter.com/...256305255694336

"Huge move."

[RedOctober3829]

"Huge move."

It is IF he can stay healthy. As much as I hate the Jets and love to bust on them, I can't blame them for taking a chance on Otah. When healthy, he's much better than Wayne Hunter.

[Corsi]

But a league source told PFT the trade was contingent on Otah passing his physical with the Jets in the next seven days, or else he goes back to Carolina. The Panthers sent him to the Jets for a conditional seventh-round pick, and then turned around and sent the same to the Raiders for wide receiver Louis Murphy.

http://profootballta...eek-to-pass-it/

[phragle]

It is IF he can stay healthy. As much as I hate the Jets and love to bust on them, I can't blame them for taking a chance on Otah. When healthy, he's much better than Wayne Hunter.

I'm just messing with you. For a conditional 7th it's a steal, but the pick was undisclosed until now.

[Ed Hillel]

What would he have that would cause him to fail now, but pass in six days. Trade's dead.

I hope Wayne Hunter pouts and holds out. Wait, maybe I don't.

[tims4wins]

I love the Jets

CORTLAND, N.Y. - Rex Ryan wants Santonio Holmes to catch passes, not to pass judgment on the team's plans for Mark Sanchez and Tim Tebow.
The New York Jets' coach, commenting on Holmes' recent criticism of the two-quarterback system, responded with a mild rebuke.

http://espn.go.com/n...orry-abouts-qbs

[Trlicek's Whip]

I assume he'll be snapping and punting, as well.

And the holder.

[SeanBerry]

The new OL coach was very outspoken this offseason with how much he loves Wayne Hunter (for whatever fucking reason. It was so emphatic, it was bizarre). The Otah move sort of surprised me but I'll wait to get excited about it untl he passes a physical and is actually playing in the pre-season.

[Smiling Joe Hesketh]

The new OL coach was very outspoken this offseason with how much he loves Wayne Hunter (for whatever fucking reason. It was so emphatic, it was bizarre). The Otah move sort of surprised me but I'll wait to get excited about it untl he passes a physical and is actually playing in the pre-season.

Isn't the Otah trade currently on hold? Any news on that?

[SeanBerry]

He has a week to pass the physical or the trade is off. We are in Day 2 and he has taken 1 physical (as far as I know) and failed.

Honestly if they think he is close, I could see them having him "pass" the physical in Day 6 or 7. If he's in rough shape, we can all go out and buy Wayne Hunter jerseys. I am hoping (and expecting) Option A.

[Kenny F'ing Powers]

I have very little faith that Otah will ever be successful in a Jets jersey. I don't care how many injury concerns the Panthers had about him. The guy was an above average right tackle for the Panthers 2 years ago. I understand they felt that they had enough depth to trade him away, but if they...

A.) Felt he was only worth a 7th round pick

and

B.) Could only get a 7th round pick for him

Then I have very little faith that this guy is anything close to the player he was in 2009. The fact that he already failed his physical on day 1 kind of reconfirms that for me. Even if the Jets "pass" him by the end of day 7, I think the valuation form his former team and the rest of the league is probably more accurate as to what he is now (scrub) then what he was in 2009.

[Reverend]

That players can have a week to pass a physical for the NFfuckingL is my new favorite fact that I didn't know until recently.

Maybe someone turned him into a newt.

[SeanBerry]

In the Otah Watch, he seems pretty confident he is going to pass. His words were "soon. Very soon.". It's only a 7th round pick. I would bet god money that he passes the physical one way or the other.

To KFP's point: I think Otah is better then he is saying but he comes with a huge red flag. OL's often work as a total unit. When someone on the unit keeps missing huge chunks of time, they can't be cohesive. I think Otah is a nice player to have BUT if he keeps missing 3/4 of the season, he can fuck up the entire line. That's why he is only worth a 7th round pick. That and waiting until now to trade him. Most teams have the OL's pretty well set.

[Kenny F'ing Powers]

I dunno man. If he still had the ability that he had a few years ago, I can think of a whole lot of teams that could use that talent at right tackle. I guess this is wait and see. Either way, certainly worth the risk of a 7th round pick.

[bankshot1]

Rex on Rex:


http://www.nydailyne...ach-in-football

CORTLAND – Rex Ryan may have dialed down the public Super Bowl rhetoric, but he still has supreme confidence in himself.

“You know what? I look at myself as the best defensive coach in football,” Ryan said after the Jets’ first training camp practice on Friday. “That’s saying something because Dick LeBeau is pretty darn good. Bill Belichick is pretty good. But that’s the way I’ve always believed. And you know what? I believe it because (of) the guys I coach with, there’s no doubt about that. And the guys I’ve coached. But that’s the truth. That’s kind of how I feel.”

"If it was a spelling bee, I'd bet against me," he later added. "If it's anything else - a fight, coaching football - I'm betting on me."
Ryan has admitted that he will play a larger role with the defense than a year ago.

[Ed Hillel]

Oh, that's rich. Add "I can beat up your coach" to the plethora of Rexisms. Can't wait to see what he'll say after he gets canned this season.

[uncannymanny]

So bet against Rex in spelling bees, but bet on him in "anything else". Check.

[drleather2001]

Even a footrace?

Is he saying that he thinks he's the best defensive coach because the guys he's coached with (i.e. his employees) and the guys he's coached (i.e. the players on his own team) tell him so? Bit of a biased sample, there, Rex.

[phragle]

I'm really surprised by the attention this "quarterback controversy" is getting. They have been dominating ESPN and NFL today. It's not really controversial IMO, as bad as Sanchez is, he's way better than Tebow. If acquiring Tebow was just for attention and press, then they nailed it.

Edited by phragle, 27 July 2012 - 07:04 PM.

[quint]

I dunno man. If he still had the ability that he had a few years ago, I can think of a whole lot of teams that could use that talent at right tackle. I guess this is wait and see. Either way, certainly worth the risk of a 7th round pick.

Stop sucking up to the status quo, prom queen. Just tell Berry he's full of shit like the rest of us do.

[Reverend]

Stop sucking up to the status quo, prom queen. Just tell Berry he's full of shit like the rest of us often do.

[bosox188]

Antonio Cromartie, offensive secret weapon:

http://profootballta...ole-on-offense/

Per a source with knowledge of the situation, cornerback Antonio Cromartie will be playing receiver in multiple offensive packages.

The goal will be to turn him loose, stretching the field and keeping defenses intent on stuffing the “ground and pound” offense honest. It could also open up the underneath routes for receiver Santonio Holmes and tight end Dustin Keller.

[Old Fart Tree]

There's a nasty part of me that would love to see him get lined up by a strong safety with rage in his eyes. Can't imagine that they'd ever run him on any sort of crossing route, though.

Edited by Old Fart Tree, 29 July 2012 - 01:40 PM.

[steveluck7]

There's a nasty part of me that would love to see him get lined up by a strong safety with rage in his eyes. Can't imagine that they'd ever run him on any sort of crossing route, though.

Of course, if Tebow happens to be under center, with his precision, a go route might well become a crossing pattern

[bosox188]

Of course, if Tebow happens to be under center, with his precision, a go route might well become a crossing pattern

People seem to keep forgetting that Tebow actually does throw a good deep ball.

[drleather2001]

Wait, why is Cromartie a better wide receiver than, well, an actual wide receiver?

[soxfan121]

People seem to keep forgetting that Tebow actually does throw a good deep ball.

<< Don't bother.

Wait, why is Cromartie a better wide receiver than, well, an actual wide receiver?

Because the cap mismanagement has resulted in a short roster with no depth?

[dbn]

I need to find a Jets bar near Santa Monica. Changing out QBs in the red zone, playing a starting CB at receiver (and "turn him loose"), a humbled Rex Ryan who more or less lost control of his team last year still flapping his gums... can't wait. The 2012 Jets have the potential to be my favorite team that I've ever hated.

[LMontro]

The NY media laughing like hyenas at everything the wacky and zany Rex Ryan says reminds me of the "over-laughing" scene from The Sopranos

[Shelterdog]

<< Don't bother.

A picture just for you, Tebow lover:



I wouldn't say he throws a good deep ball (compare what he does to what Stafford or Big Ben does--those guys throw it deep well) but he's much better throwing it deep than he is anywhere else on the field.

Edited by Shelterdog, 30 July 2012 - 11:36 AM.

[TheShynessClinic]

ESPN spent 20 minutes this morning discussing how the media spent too much time discussing the above picture/incident.

[Ed Hillel]

He's just being modest by not jogging on those raindrops.

ESPN also did a report on how terrible each QB looks when it comes to actually playing football thus far in camp.

Edited by Ed Hillel, 30 July 2012 - 12:09 PM.

[soxfan121]

A picture just for you, Tebow lover:

That's hot.

[Smiling Joe Hesketh]

You guys are missing the best part of Hunky Tebow pics:

The NY tabloids ran large backpage photos of a shirtless Tim Tebow jogging at Jets training camp. Dustin Pedroia pasted a photo of his head on Tebow's muscle-bound body and hung it in his locker.

Pete Abe

[Salva135]

Almost 450 posts and the season hasn't even started yet. This is going to be a wild ride.

[soxfan121]

Almost 450 posts and the season hasn't even started yet. This is going to be a wild ride.

I believe the longest thread in SoSH history is the AAYSA thread before the ezboard switch; I think that this thread, depending on when/if Tebow becomes the starting QB and/or Rex has employment troubles, could top it. It's a potential perfect storm of schadenfreude.

[SeanBerry]

We know one thing. If the Jets play well this year, this thread will be as quiet as a mouse. You people always disappear when the Jets play well.

[Van Everyman]

Wait, why is Cromartie a better wide receiver than, well, an actual wide receiver?

He can send his kids in different directions as decoys.