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[Infield Infidel]

The Los Angeles Lakers have agreed to surrender Pau Gasol and Lamar Odom in a trade for New Orleans Hornets point guard Chris Paul, sources tell ESPN.com's Marc Stein.

Sources close to the process tell Stein that the Houston Rockets remain part of the talks and are trying to complete a deal that would send Gasol to Houston and the Rockets' Luis Scola, Kevin Martin and Goran Dragic to New Orleans, along with Odom.

http://espn.go.com/l...aul-sources-say

Yahoo says there's also a first-rounder from the Rockets to the Hornets

[mikeford]

This is a nightmare for Boston. They get Paul without giving up Bynum. Solid. How exactly are the Rockets the one giving up the draft pick either?

Daryl Morey, I hate your face.

[teddykgb]

Really not sold on this for LA if they can't also swing Howard. Gasol was so good for them in their successful playoff runs. Don't see how they make up for the loss of both him and Odom this coming season. May still be a good deal for them, but at least for this year I think it's probably a slight step back if they can't get that third guy.

[Statman]

Really not sold on this for LA if they can't also swing Howard. Gasol was so good for them in their successful playoff runs. Don't see how they make up for the loss of both him and Odom this coming season. May still be a good deal for them, but at least for this year I think it's probably a slight step back if they can't get that third guy.

I hope Bynum and Paul blow out a knee during training camp.

Yes, I am a bitter son of a bitch.

[SoxScout]

@ESPNSteinLine 24s
It was not immediately clear, sources said, if three-way trade involving Hornets, Lakers and Rockets is merely snagged or in jeopardy
@ESPNSteinLine 3m
ESPN CP3 trade latest: Trade with Lakers will NOT go through Friday and Chris Paul is expected in Hornets camp, according to sources

https://twitter.com/#!/ESPNSteinLine

alive?

Edited by SoxScout, 08 December 2011 - 08:54 PM.

[dolomite133]

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski NBA owners have pushed commissioner David Stern to kill the deal sending Chris Paul to the Los Angeles Lakers, sources tell Y! Sports. 1 minute ago Favorite Retweet Reply

[mikeford]

Adrian Wojnarowski
NBA owners have pushed commissioner David Stern to kill the deal sending Chris Paul to the Los Angeles Lakers, sources tell Y! Sports.

Good luck, other owners.

[StuckOnYouk]

Is there any way Danny can blow through that small hole and pull it off?

5% chance maybe?

[Statman]

Huh???

Can Stern really kill a deal if other owners want him to?

[Van Everyman]

Holy shit -- this is like the Arod trade all over again if that's true.

Edit: Except if we end up pulling it off the C's are the Yankees instead of the Red Sox.

Edited by Van Everyman, 08 December 2011 - 08:56 PM.

[teddykgb]

Huh???

Can Stern really kill a deal if other owners want him to?

It's the fundamental problem of having the league own the team, isn't it? Stern should know better than to have not solved this by now

[StuckOnYouk]

Do the other owners object to Paul being traded or do they object to him being traded to LA? Or do they just see this as a ridiculously lopsided deal?

Maybe the title of the thread should be adjusted?

Edited by StuckOnYouk, 08 December 2011 - 08:57 PM.

[dolomite133]

Huh???

Can Stern really kill a deal if other owners want him to?

It's like a bad fantasy league where all the other owners vote trades down. Ha!

BTW I'm guessing the league would have had same reaction to Rondo-Paul trade. Or any other deal for that matter. So I'm guessing Stern won't pay any mind to the objections. But who knows...?

[mikeford]

Adrian Wojnarowski
Owners were irate in Board of Governors meeting with Stern, livid that the league-owned Hornets were allowed to make Paul deal, sources say.

[JBill]

Adrian Wojnarowski
Owners were irate in Board of Governors meeting with Stern, livid that the league-owned Hornets were allowed to make Paul deal, sources say.

Fantastic.

[SoxScout]

Adrian Wojnarowski 23s
The NBA is now pushing New Orleans GM Dell Demps to pull the plug on the trade and keep Chris Paul, league sources tell Y! Sports.

[dolomite133]

So does this mean the league is pushing for the league to block ANY Paul trade this season? Or just this particular trade?

[StuckOnYouk]

Adrian Wojnarowski
Owners were irate in Board of Governors meeting with Stern, livid that the league-owned Hornets were allowed to make Paul deal, sources say.

I'm guessing if Rondo and Paul were traded in the same deal, the reaction wouldn't be as harsh. But I could be wrong.

[StuckOnYouk]

Perhaps the owners smell a chance of Howard moving to the Lakers forming a Kobe/Paul/Howard "Miami West" team and want none of it.

[mikeford]

Considering Stern just got the NBA owners 7%, roughly 300mil, of BRI back in the labor negotiations, I feel pretty confident he's gonna tell them "too bad" about CP3 trade.

[Statman]

It's the fundamental problem of having the league own the team, isn't it? Stern should know better than to have not solved this by now

Does the NBA own the Hornets or did the other owners all chip in some cash to purchase the team?

The Hornets sold for over $300M so I imagine it's the latter scenario unless the league was able to borrow the money to purchase the Hornets?

[RedOctober3829]

As has been reported, Chris Paul deal has hit a snag. "Doesn't look good," says source close to it. Yahoo! reporting owners furious at deal.

[triniSox]

One source close to the three-team Chris Paul trade talks just told ESPN.com: "The deal is off."

http://mobile.twitte...960469482999808

Wow

Edit: Mods, can we get a question mark in the thread title?

Edited by triniSox, 08 December 2011 - 09:09 PM.

[RedOctober3829]

Does this mean the owners won't approve any trade of Paul or just this particular one?

[jmcc5400]

I hope Bynum and Paul blow out a knee during training camp.

Yes, I am a bitter son of a bitch.

The lockout has made us all rusty. You spared Kobe. Or is that just understood?

[SoxScout]

@CP3 Chris Paul
WoW

https://twitter.com/#!/CP3/status/144962250854248448

[Murby]

Does this mean the owners won't approve any trade of Paul or just this particular one?

I would think ANY deal would be looked on unfavorably until the team is bought if the owners were to be consistent. I don't know how I feel here. As a Celtics fan, I am thrilled, but I'm not sure this should be allowed to be killed.

[jsinger121]

If I'm the Lakers I am furious. This isn't the pu pu platter of crap that they gave up when they acquired Gasol. They are giving up very good players to acquire Paul.

[MoGator71]

The lockout has made us all rusty. You spared Kobe. Or is that just understood?

No shit. What happened to "Kobe is wrongfully convicted of raping Michelle Obama and is summarily shot"? You know, since we're wishing and all.

[JBill]

This is crazy: Hearing the NBA (owner of New Orleans) vetoed the CP3 trade because it wasn't in the best interests in the league.

https://twitter.com/...961013043834882

Wow.

[Ed Hillel]

Hahahahahahahaha.

This is awful and awesome at the same time. I think the Boston trade makes much more sense for NO, but I am not really sure how the owners do this with a straight face.

Edited by Ed Hillel, 08 December 2011 - 09:32 PM.

[Marbleheader]

If the league owns the team, doesn't that mean the owners all have an equal share of the team?

[BannedbyNYYFans.com]

nm

Edited by BannedbyNYYFans.com, 08 December 2011 - 09:26 PM.

[triniSox]

Some owners pushed Stern to demand that trade be nullified, and the Hornets be made to keep Paul on the roster for the foreseeable future, sources said. Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban was one of the most vocal in a chorus of owners irate with the belief that the five-month lockout had happened largely to stop big-market teams from leveraging small-market teams for star players pending free agency.

http://sports.yahoo....nets_nba_120811

Looks like CP3 isn't going anywhere this season

[dolomite133]

As much as the deal sucked for Celtics fans, this is a completely arbitrary and unfair move. As someone else said on Twitter, the trade to acquire Pau Gasol was much more lopsided.

[Ed Hillel]

I wonder how the Players' Association is going to react to this. What if Paul blows a knee?

[SoxScout]

Has anyone answered how it was let to get to this point?

[AimingForYoko]

The lockout has made us all rusty. You spared Kobe. Or is that just understood?

I think that's always implied.

[snowmanny]

Well, this slightly makes up for Rollie Fingers.

[triniSox]

Has anyone answered how it was let to get to this point?

All along, the league office had allowed the Hornets to negotiate the Chris Paul trade without interference, sources said. And then, this.]

https://twitter.com/...967239194517505

Seems like the Hornets don't even know the answer to that

[BannedbyNYYFans.com]

[gammoseditor]

As much as the deal sucked for Celtics fans, this is a completely arbitrary and unfair move. As someone else said on Twitter, the trade to acquire Pau Gasol was much more lopsided.

While I agree with your larger point, there's really no comparison to the original Gasol trade or any other trade. Those teams weren't owned by the NBA. But it's bad policy for the nba to void trades while it owns a team.

[Jed Zeppelin]

This league owning the team shit needs to be figured out, because as much as I don't want the Lakers to build a superteam, it's complete BS that Mark Cuban can be involved in this at all. Conflict of interest much?

[Hendu's Gait]

Thanks for reminding me of Chris Wallace, f'in NBA. Having lame duck GM's and front office people is so, well, lame.

[ElcaballitoMVP]

I really don't understand how Stern can nix this deal. It doesn't make any sense. I mean, I love it as a C's fan but if I were a Laker fan I'd be livid right now. They're giving up a damn good player in Gasol and a versatile forward in Odom for a PG with a questionable knee and 1 year left on his contract. It's not like the original Gasol trade at all. Very strange.

[PedroSpecialK]

Thank you a billion times for posting this

[stp130]

Perhaps the owners smell a chance of Howard moving to the Lakers forming a Kobe/Paul/Howard "Miami West" team and want none of it.

This would be my guess. The Lakers were giving up a hell of a lot of size to acquire Paul, especially dangerous with the oft-injured Bynum. Howard had to be the other shoe to drop in the Laker master plan.

[SemperFidelisSox]

Love how assholes like James Dolan and Donald Sterling suddenly care what's in the best interest of the league and are blocking trades.

[AimingForYoko]

I wondered how this whole league owning NO and Paul would play out. Always figured that Stern and co wouldn't let Paul walk for a bag of balls as it's in the best interest of the franchise if they try to keep him there.

Seems like they don't even know. Whoever said this would be a complete mess was right.




That said: bwahahahahahahomgahahaha

[Marbleheader]

The league has owned the Hornets for a year. There's seriously been no one willing to buy that franchise? Over-expansion has really hurt the NBA and NHL. They should have contracted the Hornets and the Kings/Grizzlies during the lockout.