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[dolomite133]

Just found this via HoopsHype:

Memphis, Tn - Tony Allen says that someone has stolen $20,000 worth of clothing out of a rental car that his mother was using.

His mother returned a rent-a-car to Enterprise at 7263 Winchester, and left the goods in the car. She later realized that she didn't have the merchandise, called the rental car company and was told that nothing was found in the vehicle.

Among the items stolen were high dollar sweaters, shoes, and shirts meant for the NBA star as Christmas gifts.

[mandro ramtinez]

It seems like the stream of tough luck does not end for Greg Oden. He won't be healthy to start the season and will start playing in January at the earliest.

Oden recovery

[nighthob]

He had reconstructive knee surgery last winter (EDIT: Dyslexics of the world untie!). The only surprise is that he'll be back in January. I don't believe it for a moment.

Edited by nighthob, 30 November 2011 - 11:58 PM.

[dbn]

How much money do you think Greg Oden has made, per NBA minute played (regular season + playoffs), over his career? For reference, Kobe Bryant has made $4,061/min.

Spoiler

$11,399.29/minute

if his QO is picked up and he doesn't play a minute in 2010/11, this will jump to $15,995.88/min...

[dolomite133]

Season hasn't started and JR Smith already has a 50/20 game under his belt.

[dolomite133]

BTW is Rocco still a member?

[Statman]

BTW is Rocco still a member?

Yeah, where the hell is Rocco?

[Statman]

Clippers just signed Caron Butler to a 3 year, $24M deal.

Link

[Jed Zeppelin]

They've desperately needed a swingman for a long time. I hope he's got something left in the tank. Always liked Butler.

[Jeff Van GULLY]

Woj

Free agent forward Mike Dunleavy will sign a two year, $7.5 million deal with the Milwaukee Bucks, league source tells Y! Sports.

[Grin&MartyBarret]

Tayshaun Prince and Jerekbo both re-sign in Detroit.

http://www.detnews.c...al-with-Pistons

[dolomite133]

From Twitter:

blakegriffin Blake Griffin Hey guys I just got traded... 10 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

blakegriffin Blake Griffin Stupid autocorrec. I meant say I just got to Trader Joes, the grocery store. Gonna do some shopping. 10 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

[triniSox]

They've desperately needed a swingman for a long time. I hope he's got something left in the tank. Always liked Butler.

I have always liked him as well. Being a Mavs fan, it's tough that he won't be back but that's a lot of money they're paying him. I'm pretty surprised.

[Grin&MartyBarret]

I have always liked him as well. Being a Mavs fan, it's tough that he won't be back but that's a lot of money they're paying him. I'm pretty surprised.

He turned down 4/30 from the Nets, too.

[triniSox]

He turned down 4/30 from the Nets, too.

Interesting. I was thinking he'd need to settle for a 1 year deal to recoup his value. Guess I read the market wrong. Glad Dallas isn't paying him that money.

[Grin&MartyBarret]

Interesting. I was thinking he'd need to settle for a 1 year deal to recoup his value. Guess I read the market wrong. Glad Dallas isn't paying him that money.

Yeah, the owners really seem to have learned their lesson about handing out iffy deals.

[Ed Hillel]

My ESPN app says Battier to Miami.

UGH.

[bowiac]

My sense is almost that in the short term, the Lakers are worse off for making this trade. I could be wrong as to how much Gasol still still has left in the tank, but he still seemed to be an elite player. Meanwhile, while Paul is obviously a top talent, there aren't many teams worse equipped to use him that the Lakers so long as Kobe is chasing scoring records. This sets up the Lakers nicely to remain relevant for the future, but unless I'm very wrong about what kind of player Kobe is, I don't think this is a major 2012 improvement.

[triniSox]

My sense is almost that in the short term, the Lakers are worse off for making this trade. I could be wrong as to how much Gasol still still has left in the tank, but he still seemed to be an elite player. Meanwhile, while Paul is obviously a top talent, there aren't many teams worse equipped to use him that the Lakers so long as Kobe is chasing scoring records. This sets up the Lakers nicely to remain relevant for the future, but unless I'm very wrong about what kind of player Kobe is, I don't think this is a major 2012 improvement.

I would tend to agree with this. Maybe they got better, but in the short term, I don't know that they got a whole lot better. Of course, this changes if they get Howard for Bynum+.

[DukeSox]

My ESPN app says Battier to Miami.

UGH.

82-0.

[dolomite133]

Biyombo contract status up in the air.

[SoxScout]

Chris Broussard

Nets have emerged as No. 1 choice for Dwight Howard, multiple sources say. D12 is expected to ask Magic to trade him to NJ.

[dolomite133]

Wow. But doesn't Broussard report a lot of bullshit that doesn't turn out to be true. Correct me if I'm wrong.

[scottyno]

should be interesting to see if stern tries to do anything if howard tries to force his way to the nets

[Brickowski]

should be interesting to see if stern tries to do anything if howard tries to force his way to the nets

Howard is a completely different situation. The NBA does not own the Magic.

Howard to the Nets for Lopez and two first round picks is a little light. Otis Smith should ask for Morrow as well, although that reduices the size of the huge trade exception that the Magic would otherwise get.

[Derek's Friend]

chadfordinsider Chad Ford Hearing same RT @Chris_Broussard: Sources say Brandon Roy to announce medical retirement due to degenerative knees possibly as soon as today

This is really sad. Good player and seems like a good guy. I'm sure they'll be able to amnesty him right?

[dolomite133]

Just came here to post about Brandon Roy. That really sucks. For him and for Blazers, who have gotten screwed by injuries the past few years. With a healthy Roy and Oden would be a solid team.

[BigSoxFan]

Just came here to post about Brandon Roy. That really sucks. For him and for Blazers, who have gotten screwed by injuries the past few years. With a healthy Roy and Oden would be a solid team.

That franchise is absolutely cursed. They've basically lost an all-star SG and potential all-star C to knee issues. They should have a young core of Oden, Aldridge, Wallace, Roy all hitting their prime right now.

[Derek's Friend]

Celts in talks to trade Glen Davis to Orlando The Celtics have apparently decided that Glen Davis’ future is better elsewhere.

According to a league source, the Cs are in discussions with Orlando to send Big Baby, in a sign-and-trade deal, to Orlando for power forward Brandon Bass - a player Magic management had been very high on at one stage.

In addition, the Celtics are pursuing Chris Wilcox, a journeyman big man who played with Detroit last season. The team is also finalizing a trade for Bucks guard Keyon Dooling and a second round draft pick. The Cs will only trade the rights to Albert Morales - a player they have held the rights to for the last five years.

Negotiations have been completed to sign Marquis Daniels, Michael Sweetney has been invited back for hsi second straight camp, and the Celtics will also introduce Jamal Sampson, a player who starred in the NBDL last year




DO THIS NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

[bowiac]

chadfordinsider Chad Ford Hearing same RT @Chris_Broussard: Sources say Brandon Roy to announce medical retirement due to degenerative knees possibly as soon as today

This is really sad. Good player and seems like a good guy. I'm sure they'll be able to amnesty him right?

I'm not sure they'll need to. Retirement takes a player off the cap regardless usually, so I think they'd have the amnesty remaining.

[tims4wins]

Battier is heading to Miami... great signing for them, IMO.

[Derek's Friend]

Battier is heading to Miami... great signing for them, IMO.

That happened on Wednesday.

[Clears Cleaver]

The deal on Roy is that he gets paid his full contract and the TB's can take it off their cap after this year. no reason to amnesty it

[scottyno]

rip hamilton bought out by pistons (not amnestied), probably good news for the celtics, puts another guy on the market who could be a nice piece off the bench for cheap, they probably aren't first on anyones wish list to go to a contender, but they're certainly ahead of a lot of other teams

[dolomite133]

rip hamilton bought out by pistons (not amnestied), probably good news for the celtics, puts another guy on the market who could be a nice piece off the bench for cheap, they probably aren't first on anyones wish list to go to a contender, but they're certainly ahead of a lot of other teams

Rumor is he's going to the Bulls. But Celtics have a puncher's chance, if Woj and others on Twitter are correct.

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski The Bulls and Rip Hamilton have long been an inevitable pairing. Boston will reach out, too. 5 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

Edited by dolomite133, 09 December 2011 - 06:06 PM.

[scottyno]

hamilton to the bulls could open up jrich to the Cs

[scottyno]

thaddeus young resigning with the 76ers, I saw something earlier someone posted about the Cs being interested but I don't see how that was ever an option unless they were going to amnesty someone, the numbers I saw before that were being rumored were about 5-40, well out of the Cs price range

[Jed Zeppelin]

Thad's a nice player. If that's the contract, he just became yet another overpaid nice player.

[Nomar813]

Thad's a nice player. If that's the contract, he just became yet another overpaid nice player.

The lockout really worked wonders for stopping Tim Thomas from happening again.

[Jed Zeppelin]

God is not a Blazers fan:

Portland Trail Blazers center Greg Oden has suffered another setback and may miss the entire 2011-12 season, according to a report on Portland-based KGW.com.

Will he ever reach 100 games?

[PBDWake]

God is not a Blazers fan:



Will he ever reach 100 games?

Awful news coming on the same day Brandon Roy has reportedly retired. So much destroyed potential.

Edited by PBDWake, 09 December 2011 - 09:54 PM.

[SemperFidelisSox]

Don't Ray Allen and Rip Hamilton hate each others guts?

[Jed Zeppelin]

Don't Ray Allen and Rip Hamilton hate each others guts?

I feel like this came up last season when we were discussing the possibility of Rip being bought out and joining the C's, and I'm pretty sure that's more urban legend than anything.

[swingin val]

Rule Changes

NBA set to implement rule changes

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NBA vice president of basketball operations Stu Jackson confirmed Wednesday that several new rule interpretations will be a point of emphasis for the league's referees when the regular season begins on Dec. 25.

"Rip-through" moves, in which an offensive player swings the ball into a defender's outstretched arm and then attempts a shot once he has created contact, will be considered non-shooting fouls if the contact begins before the offensive player starts his shooting motion.

Also, on drives to the basket, a shooting foul will be called only if contact occurs after the offensive player has begun his shooting motion, not after he has initiated his leap toward the basket.

"Certain types of contact involving the shooter were all being called in his favor," Jackson said. "It doesn't look good for the game. There was a strong feeling that those types of plays were creating an ill-advised reward for the shooter, often with three free throws."

The league will also make traveling in the post and on the perimeter a point of emphasis, with a player hopping off of and landing on the same foot viewed as an automatic violation. Referees will also consider locking or clamping an opponent's arm or hand under the basket while battling for a rebound and discontinued or hesitation dribbles as automatic violations.

Several rule changes will also be introduced, most to shorten the overall length of games and speed up the final minutes of a contest:

• Substitutions will only be allowed before the final free throw of any trip to the line that is not for a technical or flagrant foul.

• Two horns will be sounded 15 seconds apart after every timeout. Teams whose players are not moving toward the court as soon as the second horn sounds will receive a delay-of-game warning.

• Instant replay will be utilized only during full timeouts, not 20-second timeouts, when necessary.

• Whether a player's foot is on the three-point line or midcourt line will be determined by where it last touched the floor, meaning a player could have a toe on the three-point line but if he leans back on his heels before he releases the ball a successful shot would be deemed a three-pointer.

• The eight-second backcourt violation will occur when the shot clock reaches 15 seconds, rather than 16.

The last rule is necessary because the 24-second shot clock will now be equipped to show 10ths for the final five seconds and work as a "true" clock. From a technical standpoint, the old shot clock began with 24.9 seconds and expired with .9 left. Now the clock will switch from 24 to 23 seconds after .1 second has expired.

Jackson said a survey of coaches determined when the shot clock would break into 10ths.

"We didn't want to run them for the whole 24 seconds and the consensus was, from a strategy standpoint, that the final five seconds were the most valuable," he said. "Before, you could have two seconds left on the shot clock but you wouldn't know if it was 2.9 or 2.1. That makes a big difference."

Referees also will be hyper-vigilant about defenders making contact with offensive players when they're in the air and fully extended attempting to score. In most cases, expect that kind of foul to draw a Flagrant Level 2, which is two free throws, possession of the ball and the defender being ejected.

"That type of contact was a trend last season and it's really dangerous," Jackson said.

Ric Bucher is a senior NBA writer for ESPN The Magazine.

[SemperFidelisSox]

Orlando has given Howard permission to talk to three teams. Nets are one of the three, per Wojnarowski.

[scottyno]

jason richardson back to orlando for 4-26

[Grin&MartyBarret]

Houston about to sign the other Gasol to a max contract offer sheet. Apparently putting together a sign and trade to try and land him.

Edit: Initial reports were a max deal, now being reported as 4/55. Much more reasonable, but also likely to be matched by Memphis.

Edited by Grin&MartyBarret, 11 December 2011 - 03:28 PM.

[Lazy vs Crazy]

Gil Arenas clears waivers, is a free agent now.

[nighthob]

Houston about to sign the other Gasol to a max contract offer sheet. Apparently putting together a sign and trade to try and land him.

Edit: Initial reports were a max deal, now being reported as 4/55. Much more reasonable, but also likely to be matched by Memphis.

Wouldn't that be around max money for a fourth year player?

[Nomar813]

It looks like the Warriors amnestied Charlie Bell to sign DeAndre Jordan to an offer sheet.

Woj:

DeAndre Jordan has signed a 4 year, $43 million offer sheet with Golden State, agent Greg Lawrence tells Y!