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[Captaincoop]

Now that the lockout appears over....who is going to fill out this roster?

Pierce, KG, Ray, Rondo, and JO are under contract and will definitely be part of the team, and given the timeline I would imagine both rookies are virtual locks as well. So clearly at least 2-3 rotation players will be added.

[dolomite133]

Bad management will be exposed and good management could pull off a few coups this week. If Celtics hope to make one last push with big three they will need to be aggressive and get creative.

[mikeford]

bring back Redz please

[the1andonly3003]

this is the last hurrah...Jeff Green is the future of the Celtics...I say offer veteran min to Wafer, Murphy, Pavolvic and Arroyo, and bring in a better version of Big Baby

[radsoxfan]

Going to be VERY interesting how Danny plays this. The current roster has 2 (seemingly opposite) themes going.

1. At most, it would seem like the KG/Pierce/Allen threesome has one more run in them. So in some ways, it feels like the Celtics should be in "win now" mode and do everything they possibly can under the new rules to surround them with the right role players this season. On their own, those 3 with Rondo aren't enough to get it done, but perhaps with a couple of the right pieces they could make another legit run.

2. Without any new additons, Danny has the team very well positioned to re-build after this year. Only Pierce (16.8M), Rondo (11M), and Avery Bradley (1.6M) are under contract for a total of 29M for the 2012/2013 season. Ainge isn't going to want to ruin his flexiblity for the next 3 years by making bad trades or giving too much money to mid-range guys past this season.

Basically, Danny should do everything the new rules and Wyc allow for this upcoming season, but try his hardest to only make 1 year commitments. Anything more than 1 year has to be a younger player who he thinks at least has a good chance to be an important part of the future.

I would love to see them be able to get a backcourt scorer and someone to replace Big Baby. Tyson Chanlder would be perfect, and give the team everything that people thought Perk was doing, while not being a total zero on offense (I know this is a longshot). I don't know all the FA/trade options, so I'm short on specifics. But I expect the FO to keep those 2 themes I mentioned in mind during the craziness about to ensue.

[Jeff Van GULLY]

The Celtics desperately need big men. They need both a backup 4 and 5 who can produce significant minutes for this club.

Dalembert or Kwame Brown might be the answer at center.


Also, sign Josh Howard.

Edited by Jeff Van GULLY, 26 November 2011 - 01:09 PM.

[ifmanis5]

Forget Green & Baby and pony up some dough for DeAndre Jordan or Marc Gasol.


List of top free agents if you were wondering: http://eye-on-basket...748484/30283991

[KevinRiley28]

It'll be interesting to see because the way their contracts are set up, they could legitimately make run at Dwight after this season so I have a feeling Danny is gonna stick to one year deals

[KevinRiley28]

I can definitly see Kwame and Josh Howard in green next season

I hope Avery gets some steady playing time

I'd hate to lose D West

[gammoseditor]

Isn't there a 0% chance we can afford guys like Marc Gasol, Josh Howard, and Samuel Dalembert?

[radsoxfan]

Isn't there a 0% chance we can afford guys like Marc Gasol, Josh Howard, and Samuel Dalembert?

Gasol, probably.

Howard/Dalembert? are they really going to get more than whatever mid-level type exception is out there? Ton of questions about both guys, and neither one all that young anymore.

Of course, I don't even know if the Celtics even will have a midlevel exception to give.

[The Social Chair]

The new CBA doesn't exactly help the Celtics.

http://nba-point-for...nd-bird-rights/

Here’s what they got, according to a source familiar with the deal:

• Every team can use the full mid-level exception, provided doing so does not take the team more than $4 million over the tax line.

• Sounds great for the players, right? Here’s the rub: If you use the full mid-level to get to or approach that barrier looming $4 million over the tax line, you cannot cross it by re-signing your own free agents via Larry Bird Rights. You can cross it to sign rookies or guys on veteran minimum contracts.

Let’s use a real world example: The Celtics have about $66 million in salary committed to seven players next season, putting them about $4 million under last year’s tax line of $70.3 million, which we’ll use as a projected tax level for the upcoming season. Using the full mid-level on, say, Jason Richardson, would take the Celtics’ payroll to $71 million–over the tax line. Under the owners’ old proposal, Boston would have thus been prohibited from using the full mid-level.

Under the current proposal — the one to which the two sides have tentatively agreed — Boston could offer the full mid-level to Richardson. But they would leave themselves only about $3 million of room with which to sign their own free agents — Glen Davis and Jeff Green being the headliners — using Larry Bird Rights. In other words: Using the full mid-level would likely mean losing both Green and Davis.

The Celtics could continue spending beyond that $4 million barrier provided they do so via non-Bird deals — veteran minimum contracts, for instance. It is unlikely the Celtics could ink either Davis or Green — young guys seeking a payday — with minimum contracts. They might be able to persuade a ring-chasing veteran for that amount, though.

In effect, the compromise here is that teams just under the tax level must choose between using the full mid-level or re-signing their own free agents to fair-market deals. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. It is unclear how many teams this would impact each season. In order to be impact, teams would have to be:

1) near the tax line;

2) interested in using the mid-level;

3) interested in re-signing a key free agent or two.

[gammoseditor]

Gasol, probably.

Howard/Dalembert? are they really going to get more than whatever mid-level type exception is out there? Ton of questions about both guys, and neither one all that young anymore.

Of course, I don't even know if the Celtics even will have a midlevel exception to give.

Well ESPN doesn't have a top 50 FA article, because who would want to look at something like that. Luckily they still have a link to the "heat index" though. Anyways, they do have a complete list of restricted/unrestricted FA's by team. How many guys can you find that you'd rather have than Josh Howard or Samuel Dalembert? More than 5 on the unrestricted list?

http://sports.espn.g...reeAgents-11-12

[Brickowski]

Marc Gasol is a perfect fit. I don't know how the cap will work under the new agreement, but IMHO he's worth a longer deal. Make a front loaded offer and see if the Grizz match. Why not? Chander is a good fit too, but Cuban can afford to pay him as much or more than the Celtics can.

Bring back Redz. Sayonara to Green. I'd bring back BBD if I could get him at a bargain price, but not otherwise. I bet you could get Kirileno or KMart short-term as a replacement for BBD.

Edited by Brickowski, 26 November 2011 - 02:06 PM.

[gammoseditor]

The new CBA doesn't exactly help the Celtics.

http://nba-point-for...nd-bird-rights/

Hmm, this complicates things. They can only use the mid-level if they let Jeff Green and Big Baby go and anyone else they sign they'd have to sign at the minimum. I didn't think there was any way Big Baby would be back and was happy but now I'm not sure. I think I'd just bring them both back along with Delonte.

edit: I'd love for the next person who mentions Marc Gasol to explain how in the world we can afford him. "Make him a solid offer" doesn't work. They don't have the money.

Edited by gammoseditor, 26 November 2011 - 02:14 PM.

[Brickowski]

Hmm, this complicates things. They can only use the mid-level if they let Jeff Green and Big Baby go and anyone else they sign they'd have to sign at the minimum. I didn't think there was any way Big Baby would be back and was happy but now I'm not sure. I think I'd just bring them both back along with Delonte.

edit: I'd love for the next person who mentions Marc Gasol to explain how in the world we can afford him. "Make him a solid offer" doesn't work. They don't have the money.

Until we see the new CBA (or at least Larry Coon's new FAQ) we won't know what can or cannot be done, and at what cost. Are sign and trades still possible?

The crappy franchises with crappy owners in crappy markets are now calling the shots, thanks to over-expansion. I do not think this state of affairs is in the best long-term interests of the NBA, but I suppose time will tell.

[mikeford]

You guys are high if you think theyre not bringing back Green.

They didn't trade away Perkins for a 1 year rental.

[mikeford]

The new CBA doesn't exactly help the Celtics.

http://nba-point-for...nd-bird-rights/

Well, that looks pretty grim.

Maybe KG can be persuaded to let us use the amnesty clause on him and his ridiculously huge contract and then resign him to a deal that doesn't cripple our ability to put an actual team on the court.


Probably not.

[radsoxfan]

Well, that looks pretty grim.

Maybe KG can be persuaded to let us use the amnesty clause on him and his ridiculously huge contract and then resign him to a deal that doesn't cripple our ability to put an actual team on the court.

This would be awesome, but I'm sure would not be allowed. If they let amnestied players return to their own team for a veteran's minimum, that would be WAY too big of a loophole. Every rich owner would do it for their highest paid player.

The player still gets his money from his old contract when amnestied, so it's not like the player is losing anything in the deal.

Edited by radsoxfan, 26 November 2011 - 03:17 PM.

[fairlee76]

Is the amnesty clause definitely part of the new CBA? If so, I would love to see the celtics make a run at an amnestied Rashard Lewis.

Edited by fairlee76, 26 November 2011 - 03:17 PM.

[mikeford]

Is the amnesty clause definitely part of the new CBA? If so, I would love to see the celtics make a run at an amnestied Rashard Lewis.

Adrian Wojnarowski
Amnesty clause is in deal, just matter of form it takes. Last proposal allowed teams to use it on a current contract at anytime during CBA.

[The Social Chair]

Is the amnesty clause definitely part of the new CBA? If so, I would love to see the celtics make a run at an amnestied Rashard Lewis.

Baron Davis would be a good fit (on the slim chance he's not considerably overweight and out of shape).

[Riles335]

To me it seems that the Celtics will be riding a similar roster heading into this year. With the flexibility that the Celtics have heading into 2012, Ainge would be out of his mind to hand out any multi-year contracts. They will though 100 percent bring back Jeff Green and most likely Delonte West. I think all of this goes back to Doc Rivers coming back for more than just one year. Had Doc Rivers wanted one more shot with Paul, KG, and Ray, he most likely would have signed a one year contract to have another crack at it. He decided to come back for another five. To me, that is very telling that the Celtics will be reloading after this coming year. The sought after prize? Dwight Howard.

With just under 30 million dollars in salary to spend in 2012 (assuming they bring back Jeff Green), the Celtics will be in great position go after Howard. Having Rondo, Pierce, and the player coach in Rivers, Boston is a great choice for Howard. If they are able to land Howard, I think it is possible that both Ray and Kevin would want to come back at discounted deals to have another crack at it.

Stick it out one more year with the roster you have and its possible you get a bounce or two here to swing a series against the Heat or Bulls. Establish experience and growth for Rondo and Green and go all in on Howard in 2012. Howard in Green seems by and far the obvious plan for the Celtics.

[MoGator71]

This would be awesome, but I'm sure would not be allowed. If they let amnestied players return to their own team for a veteran's minimum, that would be WAY too big of a loophole. Every rich owner would do it for their highest paid player.

The player still gets his money from his old contract when amnestied, so it's not like the player is losing anything in the deal.

Considering they let teams trade guys in deadline deals to make the cap work, then sign them back for pennies after they're bought out, I don't really see how they can tell teams they can't sign amnestied players. Though it's a new CBA, so who knows?

That would really be a perfect scenario. Use the amnesty, bring KG back, then use the freed up $$$ on one year deals to load up for a GFIN run.

Edited by MoGator71, 26 November 2011 - 05:06 PM.

[Dernells Casket n Flagon]

I know people here are salivating over the idea of Howard in 2012, but it absolutely terrifies me to some degree. Imagine having Rondo and Howard as your marque guys for the next 3-4 years. You can't put the ball in either of their hands at the end of the game if you need points or if you're up and need to ice it.

[mikeford]

I know people here are salivating over the idea of Howard in 2012, but it absolutely terrifies me to some degree. Imagine having Rondo and Howard as your marque guys for the next 3-4 years. You can't put the ball in either of their hands at the end of the game if you need points or if you're up and need to ice it.

Rondo could just lob the ball to Howard on every play. Especially in the East where thanks to the departure of Perk, there are like 2 centers including Dwight Howard worth a shit.

[Riles335]

I know people here are salivating over the idea of Howard in 2012, but it absolutely terrifies me to some degree. Imagine having Rondo and Howard as your marque guys for the next 3-4 years. You can't put the ball in either of their hands at the end of the game if you need points or if you're up and need to ice it.

This is a good point but Dwight Howard has improved his low post game by leaps and bounds the past few years. He also shoots a great percentage and has mixed in a fair amount of low post moves. It's not far out of the realm that Dwight becomes a guy you can look to get the ball to late in the game. I am also sure that the Celtics would have the roster built with marquee shooters that would help with these scenarios.

Also a game ending alley oop from Rondo to Howard off a pick and roll to beat the buzzer sounds good to me

[Sprowl]

The Celtics desperately need big men.

Yes. The Celtics' big men aren't very big or durable, and they play inside-out. Garnett takes long jumpers, Green and Davis are poster children for low rebound rate, and Jermaine will be injured most of the season.


edit: even so, I'm looking forward to some Celtics action this winter. Hope springs eternal, even if not quite as upwellingly as last year for a veteran team, or the year before that, or the year before that...

[BucketOBalls]

Adrian Wojnarowski
Amnesty clause is in deal, just matter of form it takes. Last proposal allowed teams to use it on a current contract at anytime during CBA.

In that case, the Celtics should probably save it unless they have some brillant stroke of luck that can turns this team into a title contender again(they probably need a top 5 player so...not happening). Taking a chance on someone who, honestly, probably isn't going to work out(Baron Davis) probably isn't worth it.

[mikeford]

In that case, the Celtics should probably save it unless they have some brillant stroke of luck that can turns this team into a title contender again(they probably need a top 5 player so...not happening). Taking a chance on someone who, honestly, probably isn't going to work out(Baron Davis) probably isn't worth it.

I think you are confusing how this works.

The amnesty clause is the "get of out jail free card" for a terrible contract you don't want anymore. The owners still have to PAY the money, the money just doesn't count on the cap anymore.

Gilbert Arenas? So long!
Rashard Lewis? Smell ya later!
Elton Brand? Hit the bricks!

[funkyriddim]

Hey everybody, been lurking for 2+ years and figured I would throw my hat in the ring.

Banking on luring big ticket free agents is not a realistic expectation for us Boston fans. Boston simply is not a first-tier free agent destination for potential free agents. Miami, LA, New York, and the Texas teams (no income tax) are all much more attractive for potential free agents. Remember, KG had to be convinced to come to Boston because of its bad reputation regarding race relations. Yes, things have gotten better, but Boston is still a cold weather city and isn't exactly in the same class as a Miami, Atlanta, LA or New York in terms of being attractive for young African-American males.

Look at the way the Celtics have been constructed during the Danny Ainge era. All trades (KG, Ray Allen) and drafting (Rondo, Perk, BBD) with a few mid-level guys mixed in.

Also, I agree with Casket and Flagon, you can't have two guys on the floor in the last two minutes of the game that are HUGE free throw liabilities. Think hack a Shaq x2.

Going forward, Rondo (and perhaps Green) are the two building blocks you have to construct a team around. Signing a big man is not a good idea seeing as you are going to have to overpay big time and chew up what looks like a less flexible cap going forward. If a Deandre Jordan falls into your lap for a reasonable deal, you go for it, but I would not go the FA route for big men.

With Rondo's skill set, I would focus on acquiring shooters who can space the floor and rebounders/defensive aces with semi-decent hands who can catch all those lobs and creative passes from Rondo.

[funkyriddim]

Depending on who you believe, Carlos Boozer might be on that amnesty list as well...

[PedroKsBambino]

Dwight Howard just isn't going to end up here, I'm afraid.

Even if you had Rondo/Pierce in place with Doc AND you had KG and Ray openly promising to sign Vet min deals if Howard signs, it still doesn't seem like he'd take this situation (and city, and climate) over his other options.

I guess one can always hope, but I don't think I'd build a plan around the hope of getting him here a year from now.

[Tyrone Biggums]

Dwight Howard just isn't going to end up here, I'm afraid.

Even if you had Rondo/Pierce in place with Doc AND you had KG and Ray openly promising to sign Vet min deals if Howard signs, it still doesn't seem like he'd take this situation (and city, and climate) over his other options.

I guess one can always hope, but I don't think I'd build a plan around the hope of getting him here a year from now.

I actually think in a way this CBA improves the Celtics standing with this, only because its going to kill the Lakers Mavericks and any other team that has really spent to the T. However, I think it also improves the chances that Dwight will stay in Orlando due to some of the new tweaks. The Lakers will not be able to afford Howard unless some type of sign and trade occurs.

[Tyrone Biggums]

Hey everybody, been lurking for 2+ years and figured I would throw my hat in the ring.

Banking on luring big ticket free agents is not a realistic expectation for us Boston fans. Boston simply is not a first-tier free agent destination for potential free agents. Miami, LA, New York, and the Texas teams (no income tax) are all much more attractive for potential free agents. Remember, KG had to be convinced to come to Boston because of its bad reputation regarding race relations. Yes, things have gotten better, but Boston is still a cold weather city and isn't exactly in the same class as a Miami, Atlanta, LA or New York in terms of being attractive for young African-American males.

Look at the way the Celtics have been constructed during the Danny Ainge era. All trades (KG, Ray Allen) and drafting (Rondo, Perk, BBD) with a few mid-level guys mixed in.

Also, I agree with Casket and Flagon, you can't have two guys on the floor in the last two minutes of the game that are HUGE free throw liabilities. Think hack a Shaq x2.

Going forward, Rondo (and perhaps Green) are the two building blocks you have to construct a team around. Signing a big man is not a good idea seeing as you are going to have to overpay big time and chew up what looks like a less flexible cap going forward. If a Deandre Jordan falls into your lap for a reasonable deal, you go for it, but I would not go the FA route for big men.

With Rondo's skill set, I would focus on acquiring shooters who can space the floor and rebounders/defensive aces with semi-decent hands who can catch all those lobs and creative passes from Rondo.

I disagree with two things here

1) Boston is a much more attractive place to play than Atlanta. They'll have enough trouble as it is keeping J-Smoothe in the fold when he becomes a free agent, unless of course they axe Joe Johnson.

2) I don't view Rondo as a "franchise player", those type of players are well rounded and excel at everything. Rondo is an excellent point guard and hes good at what he does...10 points, can penetrate inside, get assists and play pretty good D. However, hes not D-Will or CP3 both are the total package at the PG spot. Rondo signed a discount deal that's why he'll probably stay. You need someone to develop into a scorer, is Jeff Green that 20 point a game guy? I don't know...we need to find that out this season, odds are is that hes more of a 15 ppg player. You sign a guy like Howard to fit around those other pieces.

DeAndre Jordan would be intriguing to me because of his rebounding ability and his toughness, seems like the anti Mark Blount.

[Brickowski]

Well, if Jeff Green is one of your franchise players, the franchise won't win shit. He's what they used to call a "second division ballplayer." Looks good on paper, puts up acceptable numbers, can't make a play to save his life when it matters. I was no great fan of Perkins, but Green isn't the answer. In fact, that trade was "lose lose" for both teams. It didn't hurt OKC nearly as badly thanks to Serge Ibaka.

I loved the trade when it was made. I then watched Green play for a couple of months and realized I was dead wrong.

Edited by Brickowski, 26 November 2011 - 07:48 PM.

[Riles335]

Well, if Jeff Green is one of your franchise players, the franchise won't win shit. He's what they used to call a "second division ballplayer." Looks good on paper, puts up acceptable numbers, can't make a play to save his life when it matters. I was no great fan of Perkins, but Green isn't the answer. In fact, that trade was "lose lose" for both teams. It didn't hurt OKC nearly as badly thanks to Serge Ibaka.

I loved the trade when it was made. I then watched Green play for a couple of months and realized I was dead wrong.

Seems like your jumping to quite the conclusion on Jeff Green. He played here for less than half of year in a system built around Pierce, KG, and Ray. Don't you want to give him more than just a few months before passing judgement on how good a 26 year old can be? Jeff Green showed many flashes last year. Lets give him an offseason, training camp, and a year before running this guy out of town. That deal was also made for more than just one year. That deal was made for the Celtics to have a successor to Pierce and a swing man to play against Lebron.

Also why is a city like Boston not an ideal spot for a guy like Howard? The Boston Celtics and the city of Boston is much different then it was in the 70's and 80's and the success of the past few years has blown away the disasters of the past. The Boston Celtics have a secure ownership, general manager, and coach for the next five years. Not many franchises can say that. Boston is by and far a great situation for many free agents moving forward.

Edited by Riles335, 26 November 2011 - 09:36 PM.

[Brickowski]

Seems like your jumping to quite the conclusion on Jeff Green. He played here for less than half of year in a system built around Pierce, KG, and Ray. Don't you want to give him more than just a few months before passing judgement on how good a 26 year old can be? Jeff Green showed many flashes last year. Lets give him an offseason, training camp, and a year before running this guy out of town. That deal was also made for more than just one year.

Let's hope it was only for one year. The downside for OKC is that they had to sign Perkins long term. Maybe some fool of a GM offers Green a deal that the Celtics won't match, but I doubt it.

Yep. I've seen enough. Life is too short to wait around for guys like Green to grow a pair.

As for Howard, sure, why not? His basketball skills leave something to be desired, but he's a superb athlete, and as one of the league's "annointed" young stars he will receive every consideration from the officials. The Celtics might as well take advantage.

Edited by Brickowski, 26 November 2011 - 09:48 PM.

[scottyno]

not entirely roster related, but I think I'd prefer doc to give the big 3 and oneal plenty of rest in the regular season even if it means ending up with something like a 6 or 7 seed instead of a 3 or 4, they're going to have to beat the best teams if they want to make a run anyway. Especially now that I'm reading that each team is going to have at least 1 back to back to back, and I'm sure they'll have even more regular back to backs than last year

[Super Nomario]

1) Boston is a much more attractive place to play than Atlanta. They'll have enough trouble as it is keeping J-Smoothe in the fold when he becomes a free agent, unless of course they axe Joe Johnson.

Boston's a better bet to win a championship in the next couple years, but beyond that things look cloudy. As a place for a 26-year-old African-American male to live, Boston is way behind Atlanta - blue laws, bars that close at 2, cold weather (especially during hoops season), and a reputation for questionable race relations. The C's have a good chance to sign P.J. Brown types looking for a ring, but a Dwight Howard who's going to spend five years here with the prospect of KG, PP, and Ray retiring in a couple seasons? It would be Danny's best sales job yet.

[Brickowski]

The C's have a good chance to sign P.J. Brown types looking for a ring, but a Dwight Howard who's going to spend five years here with the prospect of KG, PP, and Ray retiring in a couple seasons? It would be Danny's best sales job yet.

Sure, Dwight Howard is a very long shot for the Celtics, but it's a shot that every team with the financial wherewithal (including the requisite cap space) to sign Howard has to take. I live in Boston but have spent time in Atlanta, and for my money, Boston is a far superior place to live, whether you are black, white, pink or orange. The Celtics franchise also has tradition, which matters to some people, plus a pretty good young point guard and a well-respected coach.

[Captaincoop]

Realistic free agents the Celtics should make a play for:

JJ Barea - fills the old Eddie House role, provides second unit scoring, and could pair up at times with Rondo to get a shooter up top and free up the lane a little bit.

Chuck Hayes - A Baby replacement who rebounds better, stays in the paint, and knows his role.

Craig Smith - a solid alternative to Hayes, another guy with Boston ties who would come affordably.

Can't find a center that makes sense and would fit under the cap. Maybe Elson from Utah, but that would be as the backup to JO. Not very exciting.

[Grin&MartyBarret]

Realistic free agents the Celtics should make a play for:

JJ Barea - fills the old Eddie House role, provides second unit scoring, and could pair up at times with Rondo to get a shooter up top and free up the lane a little bit.

Chuck Hayes - A Baby replacement who rebounds better, stays in the paint, and knows his role.

Craig Smith - a solid alternative to Hayes, another guy with Boston ties who would come affordably.

Can't find a center that makes sense and would fit under the cap. Maybe Elson from Utah, but that would be as the backup to JO. Not very exciting.

Theyre probably looking at a Fesenko type guy. He's a decent post defender, and they'll be able to afford him.

[Brickowski]

Theyre probably looking at a Fesenko type guy. He's a decent post defender, and they'll be able to afford him.

I like Fesenko, who is a poor man's Zaza. Also Aaron Gray (if healthy) who played very well for the Hornets before he got hurt. And then there's the vanilla gorilla, but he's probably headed back to Portland.

[Toe Nash]

Boston's a better bet to win a championship in the next couple years, but beyond that things look cloudy. As a place for a 26-year-old African-American male to live, Boston is way behind Atlanta - blue laws, bars that close at 2, cold weather (especially during hoops season), and a reputation for questionable race relations. The C's have a good chance to sign P.J. Brown types looking for a ring, but a Dwight Howard who's going to spend five years here with the prospect of KG, PP, and Ray retiring in a couple seasons? It would be Danny's best sales job yet.

According to his Wikipedia Howard is very religious, likes Gospel music, and doesn't seem to be much of a partier / clubbing guy. He grew up in Atlanta so he's probably used to living in the Southeast, but I don't think you have much idea of what he's looking for in a place to live and pointing out the blue laws tells me you're assuming a lot. I'd say with the 17 banners and a well-respected coach the C's have as much of a chance as anyone if he wants to leave the area he grew up in -- but we don't know what's important to him, nor should we pretend we know just because of his age and race.

[mikeford]

Realistic free agents the Celtics should make a play for:

JJ Barea - fills the old Eddie House role, provides second unit scoring, and could pair up at times with Rondo to get a shooter up top and free up the lane a little bit.

Northeastern alum, so clearly the cold doesn't bother him that much, haha.

[dolomite133]

Every move we make this year should be with an eye towards 2012-13. We need to rebuild. Competing for a title this year ... honestly it's a pipe dream given our age and the number of back to backs we're going to have to play.

[Captaincoop]

Every move we make this year should be with an eye towards 2012-13. We need to rebuild. Competing for a title this year ... honestly it's a pipe dream given our age and the number of back to backs we're going to have to play.

Well, if that's true, Danny should be looking at trade options involving the Big Three.

[the1andonly3003]

don't you think Allen or KG would come back in 2012 for less money?

Edited by the1andonly3003, 27 November 2011 - 10:00 PM.

[dolomite133]

Well, if that's true, Danny should be looking at trade options involving the Big Three.

Yeah it's worth exploring but we'd probably have to take on shitty contracts in return. No ones trading a star for any of them at this point.