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[RedOctober3829]

After that debacle on Sunday, let's look towards the Giants. Winners of 4 of their last 5 games, they come into Foxboro off of a 20-17 come-from-behind victory over the LOLphins. They lost to the Redskins to open the year and have beaten St. Louis, Philly, and Arizona and lost inexplicably to Seattle. Eli is having a good year throwing for 2,127 yards, 65% completion percentage, 13 TD-5 INT, and has a rating of 102.1. Hakeem Nicks, who injured his hammy against Miami but should be good to go on Sunday, leads the team in receptions(38) and yards (575) while Victor Cruz leads the team in receiving TDs with 4. Ahmad Bradshaw leads the team in rushing with 440 yards(4.0 per carry) and 5 TDs. They are expected to get WR Ramses Barden off the PUP list this week as well. They are ranked 5th in DVOA team offense rankings.

Defensively, they have been ravaged by injuries before the year even started. Terrell Thomas, Marvin Austin, and Brian Witherspoon were lost for the season and top pick Prince Amukamara is expected to make his debut this week after suffering a broken foot in camp. Osi Umeniyora had a contract dispute plus injuries that has limited him to only 4 games played. But, the time he has been on the field has been productive as he's put up 6 sacks in those 4 games. Justin Tuck has only appeared in 3 games as well. That being said, they are as healthy as they've been all year. DVOA-wise, they are ranked 12th.

It will be a tough game to win even at home. The Giants can throw the ball to a number of different receivers, but IMO their offensive line isn't as good as Pittsburgh's showed to be on Sunday so I think Eli can be pressured. Nicks will prove to be a tough cover and Cruz, the UMass product, has made some big plays as well. Bradshaw is a tough runner.

I'll be making my yearly appearance at the Blade this week so they better win.

[Zomp]

As a Giants fan I have no idea what to expect. They are so inconsistent that a Pats blowout to a Giants victory wouldn't surprise me.

As you said, Eli is having a good season and, just like last year imo, he could be having a better one if it wasn't for so many tipped/dropped balls from his receiving core.

Our defense is getting healthier by the week and last week during the final drive vs the fins seing JPP, Osi, and Tuck all out there made me hard.

I don't think there is a question that the Pats are the favorites, but we do match up pretty well with our ability to spread the field with our offense and our willingness to put a lot of pressure on the QB.

[dcmissle]

Yes, your Giants do match up well.

What's your gut on whether your corners will press at the line?

[RedOctober3829]

To add some other key players on IR for the Giants:
LB Jonathan Goff
LB Clint Sintim
WR Domenik Hixon

[Rico Guapo]

CHFF uses a nice statistic called passer rating differential (teams offensive passer rating minus it's defensive passer rating) to predict games and it's been fairly accurate in the past, the higher the rating the better...

NYG is +22.6 (102.1 OPR and 79.5 DPR) which is good for 4th best in the league.
NE is +11.5 (104.4 OPR and 92.9 DPR) which is good for 10th best in the league.

As much as I hate to say it, I think the Giants win on Sunday because their pass defense is significantly better than New Englands.

edit: Only five teams in the league have a worse passing defense than the Pats: Vikings, Panthers, Dolphins, Broncos and the Colts.

Edited by Rico Guapo, 02 November 2011 - 02:18 PM.

[Zomp]

Yes, your Giants do match up well.

What's your gut on whether your corners will press at the line?

Honestly I'm not sure. Perhaps another Giants fan will be anle to answer but I woprk most Sundays so only get to FF through the games.

[RedOctober3829]

A neck injury for Wes Welker kept him out of practice on Wednesday.

https://twitter.com/#!/capeleaguer/status/131824817002393601

Looks to be hurt on the play where Polamalu twisted his head around on a tackle.

[jsinger121]

Did Not Practice
LB Dane Fletcher (thumb)
WR Wes Welker (neck)

Limited Participation
S Josh Barrett (thumb)
DE Shaun Ellis (rib)
RB Kevin Faulk (knee)
RB BenJarvus Green-Ellis (toe)
TE Aaron Hernandez (knee)
LB Jerod Mayo (knee)
OT Sebastian Vollmer (back)

[BigSoxFan]

Can't wait to watch FOX show the Tyree catch 500 times during the pre-game show.

[CaptainLaddie]

If Welker's hurt because of that fucking illegal tackle by that shithead Polamalu, I'm going to go postal.

[RedOctober3829]

As @MikeGarafolo reported, Giants RB Ahmad Bradshaw has a cracked bone in his foot and is out indefinitely.

https://twitter.com/#!/AdamSchefter/status/132139542470856704

[mascho]

Can't wait to watch FOX show the Tyree catch 500 times during the pre-game show.

I smell drinking game!

If Welker's hurt because of that fucking illegal tackle by that shithead Polamalu, I'm going to go postal.

But Polamalu plays the game the right way. Just a hard-nosed football play by a hard-nosed football player.

[tims4wins]

Welker back at practice today

[RedOctober3829]

Giants WR Hakeem Nicks says he'd rather sit this week and not risk worsening hamstring injury. Hasn't ruled out playing vs. NE yet, though.

https://twitter.com/#!/BobGlauber/status/132157857243217920

[RedOctober3829]

Giants DE Jason Pierre-Paul was added to the injury report as limited with a neck injury. No idea at this point what that's about. #nyg

https://twitter.com/#!/MikeGarafolo/status/132168773624012800

[Mystic Merlin]

I want to punch Mike Reiss in the balls for his continued emphasis on SB 42. We're gonna get plenty of that on Sunday afternoon, Mike, shut the fuck up, please.

[RedOctober3829]

No Ahmad Bradshaw (foot), Hakeem Nicks (hamstring), David Baas (knee) or Jason Pierre-Paul (neck) at practice today. #NYG

https://twitter.com/#!/TheBlueScreen/status/132488510711144448

[OldSaintJohn]

Bradshaw, Nicks and Baas are officially Doubtful. That would be huge

[LesterFan]

[dcmissle]

Bradshaw, Nicks and Baas are officially Doubtful. That would be huge

They are out for this game. The Pats have the deck stacked in their favor in this one. Lose it, and you might as well post a hurricane warning.

[Mystic Merlin]

I think it's no small factor that they've played progressively better defenses.

But, hooray graphs.

[j44thor]

I think it's no small factor that they've played progressively better defenses.

But, hooray graphs.

Except PIT who is 15th in DVOA. I do think there is some truth the to #'s.

[Mystic Merlin]

PIT's DVOA is extremely deceptive, but, yes, the offense has slipped since the first three weeks of the season. Still, though, I'm not worried - they've got a lot of talent and continuity on that side of the ball.

[hittery]

The Giants are the worst of the 5-2 teams. We should be able to handle this.

[Adrian's Dome]

PIT's DVOA is extremely deceptive, but, yes, the offense has slipped since the first three weeks of the season. Still, though, I'm not worried - they've got a lot of talent and continuity on that side of the ball.

Well, to be fair, the "let Welker rack up 200 yards a game" offense wasn't bound to last forever.

[Ed Hillel]

YAY:

The Patriots have added receiver Taylor Price to the injury report tonight. Price is listed with a hamstring injury and is questionable for Sunday's game against the Giants.

http://espn.go.com/b...o-injury-report

[Zomp]

If Bradshaw and Nicks are out that is HUGE for the Pats. Fuck.

I'm just not sure if we can put enough points on the board without them.

[Montana Fan]

How about Jacobs in the starring role as The Punisher? If the Giants can establish the run, Eli will do the rest.

[Judge Mental13]

Establish the run??

Against the PATRIOTS?

I have a feeling that nowhere in Coughlin's gameplan for this matchup are the words "establish the run" except under a very specific alternate scenario in which Eli Manning, Mario Manningham, Victor Cruz and Jake Ballard are all raptured

[Zomp]

Montana, to me it seems like Jacobs forgets he's 265 lbs and has become soft. I loved the way he ran his first couple of seasons in the league but he's been disappointing to say the least.

Hopefully he can step up.

[mascho]

I have a feeling that nowhere in Coughlin's gameplan for this matchup are the words "establish the run" except under a very specific alternate scenario in which Eli Manning, Mario Manningham, Victor Cruz and Jake Ballard are all raptured

I think even in that scenario, Coughlin would still have faith in Carr to Jernigan.

[Montana Fan]

I'm hoping that a pissed off Jacobs will run hard today. I definitely agree that for a couple of years Jacobs thought he was an end around type. Last year he hit the inside holes better. I'm not excited about him pounding it into Wilfork and Haynesworth but like the idea of him off tackle behind Ballard. If the Giants can run the ball today, they can win. I don't want a gunfight with Brady. The Giants can't win today if the Pats score 30 and a shootout with the unpredictable Eli at the helm doesn't lead to success IMO.

Keeping the Pats best unit on the sideline will give the Giants their best chance to win. I'm thinking 24-20 or 21-16 G-men.

[DeJesus Built My Hotrod]

Obligatory does anyone have a link game-thread question. Non-obligatory thank you very much in advance...

[MonstahsInLeft]

Besides FirstRow?

http://www.firstrows...n-football.html

I gotta work today and am keeping my fingers crossed that this'll work...

[DeJesus Built My Hotrod]

Besides FirstRow?

http://www.firstrows...n-football.html

I gotta work today and am keeping my fingers crossed that this'll work...

Thank you much!

[Montana Fan]

The young guys don't lack for confidence.

Can't wait to get a look at Barden.

[MonstahsInLeft]

No worries. So far the work computer doesn't seem to be liking the soccer links at least...I'm not getting warm fuzzies.

What are some of the other sites folks? My bookmarks are all on my home computer. Gracias.

[mascho]

vipbox.tv is another I have used with varying degrees of success.

[Reverend]

vipbox.tv is another I have used with varying degrees of success.

The fine people of myp2p continue to do God's work at their new home.

[Mystic Merlin]

I would be thrilled if the Giants decide they need to 'establish the run'. Please do.

[SoxScout]

Mallett, Faulk, Price, Thomas, Ellis, Cunningham, Fletcher

Nice time for a hammy, Price. Unreal.

[Jungleland]

Am I oblivious or was a potential Faulk injury completely under the radar?

[DaveRoberts'Shoes]

Good lord. Let's hope Lawfirm feels good.

And don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out, Price

[j44thor]

Good lord. Let's hope Lawfirm feels good.

And don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out, Price

Better yet perhaps Ridley will see the field this week. RB depth is not a concern on this team, if anything they have too many.

[Mystic Merlin]

Good lord. Let's hope Lawfirm feels good.

And don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out, Price

lolwut

BOB really opened a can of worms this week.

[Ed Hillel]

Price got hurt yesterday, he's not a healthy scratch.

[PseuFighter]

we're stuck with joe buck today.

kill me now.

[SeoulSoxFan]

Jets flying high. At least one NY team has to lose today. GO PATS

[PayrodsFirstClutchHit]

Need to get this Bucs/Saints game off my TV soon.

Edit: Have to give Fox credit. Dumped out of the early game to make sure we get full coverage.

Edited by PayrodsFirstClutchHit, 06 November 2011 - 04:15 PM.

[bigsid05]

The XLII references today are going to kill me every time...