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10/2 - ALDS Game Two - Pitchers' Nightmare


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#1 Meff Nelton

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Posted 01 October 2011 - 11:13 PM

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Runs are in order today. Lots of runs.

Starting for the Yankees this afternoon is Freddy Garcia, a pitcher with a low strikeout rate, an unimpressive walk rate, and who has had a second half that has seen the fortune of earlier work erode into the sea. Fortunately for Garcia, his propensity to get hitters to swing at sub-optimal pitches plays well against a Tigers team with a middling walk rate, and a few key free swingers. Should the Tigers see fit to put men on base before Miguel Cabrera, it could nonetheless be quite ugly. More so than possibly any other game this series, the Yankees' bullpen depth could be tested early.

On the other side is Max Scherzer, whom despite possessing a completely different arsenal, carries similar statistical traits with two outsized exceptions. For one, Scherzer has the stuff to make people swing and miss, with a K rate of 8.03 per 9 on the season. Unfortunately (or quite fortunately,) this also is pared with a high home run rate, despite pitching half his games in Comerica Park, and his schedule composed roughly 50% of games against the meek AL Central. Facing the Yankees in Yankee Stadium may well be a very rough order for Mr. Scherzer this afternoon.

With the Yankees completely prepared to possibly go five strong innings out of the bullpen if necessary today, they come into this game in a good position to capitalize should they run into a few of Scherzer's pitches. Should FredGar collapse and Scherzer be hard to square up; it could be a long day indeed.

Edited by Meff Nelton, 01 October 2011 - 11:13 PM.


#2 EvilEmpire

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 12:24 AM

What is the over/under for total runs in this game? 19? 20?

#3 SemperFidelisSox


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Posted 02 October 2011 - 12:45 AM

Scherzer is a five inning pitcher on the road.

This will come down to an epic battle between Hughes and Brad Penny to see who can suck less in the middle innings.

#4 jon abbey


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Posted 02 October 2011 - 12:50 AM

I might be eating these words around 4 PM tomorrow, but Garcia seems to me like a good matchup for a tight, impatient lineup, which is what DET looked like today.

Edit: That being said, most of DET's big guys have huge numbers against Freddy:

http://www.baseball-...x=1&submitter=1

#5 Wingack


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Posted 02 October 2011 - 05:11 AM

I think Meff is going to go on a nice little run here.

#6 ThePrideofShiner

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 05:35 AM

I hope so, but Scherzer seems like the kind of guy that gives the Yankees fits.

Garcia better bring his good slop today.

#7 abty

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 07:44 AM

Did Verlander say he CANNOT pitch today? If not, Fire Leyland as he cost them the series. You don't throw unknowns into homer stadium in the post-season. Don't people pay attention to patterns and history? This is comical.

#8 Shaky

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 10:33 AM

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He looks like he should be pulling a dogsled.

#9 cheesypoofs

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 11:35 AM

A.J. Burnett to pitch ALDS Game 4

http://espn.go.com/n...sabathia-game-3


Well, of course. Sigh.

#10 jon abbey


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Posted 02 October 2011 - 12:10 PM

Did Verlander say he CANNOT pitch today? If not, Fire Leyland as he cost them the series. You don't throw unknowns into homer stadium in the post-season. Don't people pay attention to patterns and history? This is comical.


Olney:

"Verlander described talk about him starting today like this:

JV:"I can go on Sunday."
Leyland: "You are going Mon."
JV: "OK.""

https://twitter.com/#!/Buster_ESPN/status/120534700463886337

#11 abty

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 12:25 PM

Lol, wow. Thanks, Jon. I think both Girardi and Leyland are nuts if they don't let their aces, if the aces say they are ready to go, pitch game 2. At least Girardi has a better lineup and homefield advantage to absorb the potential of a bad outing from Garcia.

#12 abty

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 12:29 PM

I think , with the news of A.J pitching game 4, it's safe to say that whoever wins this game is winning the series.

#13 Phranchise

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 01:16 PM

I think , with the news of A.J pitching game 4, it's safe to say that whoever wins this game is winning the series.


Burnett xFIP 3.86
Porcello xFIP 4.02

That game is more of a tossup than you'd think.

#14 Meff Nelton

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 02:01 PM

I just realized how happy I am that they're playing a day game today.

#15 derekson

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 02:08 PM

Batting 3 guys with OBPs below .320 in front of Cabrera, Martinez, and Avila is so fucking dumb.

#16 Meff Nelton

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 02:10 PM

Batting 3 guys with OBPs below .320 in front of Cabrera, Martinez, and Avila is so fucking dumb.


I have already expressed my gratitude to Jimmy.

#17 abty

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 02:14 PM

Burnett xFIP 3.86
Porcello xFIP 4.02

That game is more of a tossup than you'd think.


:crybaby face emoticon:

#18 rembrat


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Posted 02 October 2011 - 02:14 PM

If you had a real RF that wouldnt happen.

#19 Meff Nelton

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 02:14 PM

Fucking Freddy Garcia...

Quick fucking hook, Joe.

#20 AMS25

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 02:15 PM

It's a Toilet Special!

#21 Al Zarilla


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Posted 02 October 2011 - 02:15 PM

The new terlet giveth.

#22 abty

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 02:15 PM

Batting 3 guys with OBPs below .320 in front of Cabrera, Martinez, and Avila is so fucking dumb.


Old school baseball at its best? I just don't think he even knows what OBP is. He might think it's a lady doctor for all we know. I just think you have to approach a playoff game in Yankee stadium as "Put our best pitchers in and steal as many early runs as you can and close your eyes when the bums are hitting". To throw a few bums before the best hitters makes little sense but what do I know? I haven't been managing 74 years like he has.

#23 Meff Nelton

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 02:17 PM

Welp, time to start scoring the ten runs necessary to win...

#24 rembrat


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Posted 02 October 2011 - 02:18 PM

Batting 3 guys with OBPs below .320 in front of Cabrera, Martinez, and Avila is so fucking dumb.

If you asked him why he'd tell you it lengthens his lineup which I kinda agree with. Also he'd shit in your hat and make you wear it.

#25 derekson

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 02:19 PM

If you asked him why he'd tell you it lengthens his lineup which I kinda agree with. Also he'd shit in your hat and make you wear it.


Batting your three best hitters 4th, 5th, and 6th doesn't lengthen your lineup. It just gives your best hitters fewer opportunities to impact the game.

#26 rembrat


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Posted 02 October 2011 - 02:25 PM

Cabrera impacted the game.

I understand the point you nerds are making. I'm just letting you know what Jim's reasoning is.

#27 Al Zarilla


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Posted 02 October 2011 - 02:25 PM

Batting your three best hitters 4th, 5th, and 6th doesn't lengthen your lineup. It just gives your best hitters fewer opportunities to impact the game.

The 4th, 5th, and 6th hitters are all slow as shit, but yeah, big deal. Mags is slow too, and I'm not sure about Young. Using Joe Morgan logic, Young should be fast though.

#28 Meff Nelton

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 02:27 PM

On the bright side, Scherzer isn't getting out of the fifth with all the pitches he's throwing.

#29 Meff Nelton

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 02:29 PM

Please Ankiel it up here, Max.

#30 aksoxfan

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 02:31 PM

Nice strikezone, blue.

#31 ThePrideofShiner

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 02:31 PM

I hate playoff Teixeira. Popping up a grooved pitch.

#32 Meff Nelton

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 02:32 PM

I hate umpires giving the foot-outside strike call on 3-0. This isn't middle school.

#33 derekson

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 02:33 PM

Umpire off to an unimpressive start:

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#34 abty

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 02:35 PM

I hate umpires giving the foot-outside strike call on 3-0. This isn't middle school.


One of my biggest pet peeves in baseball. I have always wondered if I was insane for thinking a ton of 3-0 pitches get called strikes even if they shouldn't be. I do not recall a year in which so many
fans, from multiple teams, complained about the umpires.

#35 derekson

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 02:36 PM

One of my biggest pet peeves in baseball. I have always wondered if I was insane for thinking a ton of 3-0 pitches get called strikes even if they shouldn't be. I do not recall a year in which so many
fans, from multiple teams, complained about the umpires.


The umpiring has gone steadily downhill since Alderson left the job of supervising them.

#36 ThePrideofShiner

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 02:44 PM

Was that a 6-pitch inning for Scherzer?

Crap. Can't let him settle in.

#37 Meff Nelton

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 02:55 PM

Postseason.tv. Was he out?

#38 derekson

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 02:57 PM

Postseason.tv. Was he out?


He didn't even touch the bag. So yes.

#39 ThePrideofShiner

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 02:58 PM

Yes, he was out. I don't think he even touched the bag.

The Detroit defense doesn't look terrible, either.

#40 derekson

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 02:58 PM

It's insane that a pop fly like that makes it to the warning track.

#41 jon abbey


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Posted 02 October 2011 - 03:03 PM

MAX SCHERZER IS PITCHING A NO-HITTER

#42 jon abbey


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Posted 02 October 2011 - 03:08 PM

Garcia is doing his job nicely, now let's score some runs.

#43 johnmd20


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Posted 02 October 2011 - 03:17 PM

Garcia is doing his job nicely, now let's score some runs.

No.

#44 abty

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 03:18 PM

At what point will Freddy Garcia be Freddy Garcia? NYS isn't a pitcher's park. How does he do it? I don't mean to be funny, did he change his mechanics/approach this year compared to previous years?

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 03:19 PM

At what point will Freddy Garcia be Freddy Garcia? NYS isn't a pitcher's park. How does he do it? I don't mean to be funny, did he change his mechanics/approach this year compared to previous years?


He was pretty good in 2010 for the White Sox, he had as many quality starts in 2010 as Cliff Lee (18, from memory). He has great command, five pitches, and a knowledge of how to use them.

#46 derekson

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 03:21 PM

He was pretty good in 2010 for the White Sox, he had as many quality starts in 2010 as Cliff Lee (18, from memory). He has great command, five pitches, and a knowledge of how to use them.


He's been really good (or lucky) in preventing home runs despite allowing a ton of fly balls though. I'm not sure he can keep that up.

#47 jon abbey


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Posted 02 October 2011 - 03:28 PM

OK, seriously, get a hit.

#48 jon abbey


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Posted 02 October 2011 - 03:31 PM

The ball/strike calls are a disaster.

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 03:33 PM

Am I the only one who thinks the on-screen strike zone is way off a lot of the time?

#50 derekson

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 03:34 PM

Is this umpire deaf? That ball clearly hit the knob of the bat, even if your eyes were closed.




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