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[Spaulding Smails]

I'm not sure if Shanny will be doing videos for all possible suspensions but this is pretty cool.

Edited by Spaulding Smails, 22 September 2011 - 06:00 PM.

[The Napkin]

I'm not sure if Shanny will be doing videos for all possible suspensions but this is pretty cool.

Nice. That'd be all kinds of awesome if he does that for all of them.

Also, what a dumb freaking hit. But does suspended a guy for preseason games really do much of anything? He got 1 last year and this one is preseason + 1 regular season. Which yeah, is more games. But the same number of regular season. Think it would make more sense if suspensions can't be served in preseason games.

[cshea]

Kyper says he just handed out 10 to Shelley. 5 preseason, 5 regular season. I like the Shanny era.

#NHL news. #Flyers Shelly suspended 10 games. 5 pre-season and first 5 gms into the regular season.

Nap- One thing to keep in mind is that for a fringe guy like Leblond, he's got no shot of making the team if he can't play in the preseason.

[AMcGhie]

My only objection to that entire piece was the sparkly font. Shannahan coming forward and being the face of suspensions, rather than having some corporate office "announce" it, I think is a huge thing for accountability.

[The Napkin]

Kyper says he just handed out 10 to Shelley. 5 preseason, 5 regular season. I like the Shanny era.

Money. Well done, Shanny. Off to a nice start.

Nap- One thing to keep in mind is that for a fringe guy like Leblond, he's got no shot of making the team if he can't play in the preseason.

Good point and in his case missing preseason and the chance to show what he can do blah blah blah might be a bigger punishment. For some reason I had in my mind that he was a regular/had a slot nailed down. It's the preseason for me too...

[Jed Zeppelin]

I just fapped to that video and discovered a new side of myself that not only appreciates but immensely enjoys the delivering of just punishment.

[Spaulding Smails]

Shelley hit:

[PedroSpecialK]

I don't care if Shanahan sounds like a broken record - this system of a transparent justification of the suspension is eons ahead of Colin Campbell's "little diving puke" days.

In short, I echo Jed Zeppelin's masturbatory praise of Shanahan's efforts.

[slidingsideways]

Rule 41.1 states that "the onus is on the player applying the check to ensure his opponent is not in a defenseless position and if so, he must avoid or minimize contact."

Wow. Check out the League making sense. Just because you can kill a guy with a hit doesn't mean you should. I'm pleased. I might have made the suspension longer, but I'm pleased.

[locknload]

Let the the Shannahan era begin! I love the transparency and accountability these videos provide. Clearly explain the reasoning the mitigating factors and take out the speculation entirely. I really hope he keeps up with them. The nhl needs tough but fair sheriff to undo the damage Campbell did over his term and it looks like Shanny is stepping up to the plate.

[AMcGhie]

As a follow-up to Shannahan's suspensions, Calgary GM Jay Feaster said:

I thought he was very thorough, very prepared in the hearing, when he called to explain his decision and his rationale, it was clear he had listened to people. I give him high marks.

via ESPN

edit: Flames GM, not Flyers GM. Interesting article though, take a look.

Edited by AMcGhie, 23 September 2011 - 09:06 AM.

[PedroSpecialK]

From that article - I know this was an issue some (myself included) were wondering about:

By the way, I am also told Shanahan plans to do some videos for other controversial plays that may not warrant suspensions. For example, he would have done one for the Zdeno Chara-Max Pacioretty incident. So that's another thing to look for this season.

Sa-weet.

[SidelineCameras]

Consistency AND accountability? In a North American professional sports league? It's almost too good to be true.

[The Napkin]

The thread where we talk about how awesome Shanahan has been so far.




Here's his latest on Brad Boyes







NEW YORK –- Buffalo Sabres forward Brad Boyes has been suspended for two preseason games for an illegal hit to the head of Toronto Maple Leafs forward Joe Colborne during a preseason game on September 24, National Hockey League Senior Vice President of Player Safety Brendan Shanahan announced today.

[Smiling Joe Hesketh]

That is fantastic. Clearly reasoned, looking at the play and how it developed, and giving clear, concise arguments for the punishment he put on Boyes.

Well done Shanny. And I fully expect that when Shanny next sees Matt Cooke he'll whip out a 9MM Browning and dump a dozen bullets into his skull.

[TheStoryofYourRedRightAnkle]

It's sort of weird to feel good about punishments being doled out. It would be better if none were doled out because none were necessary, yeah? But still... feels good.

Edited by TheStoryofYourRedRightAnkle, 26 September 2011 - 10:53 AM.

[The Napkin]

(split out some of the Shanny talk into its own thread. Cause yeah, he's on fire so far.)

[MoGator71]

He's really doing an excellent job. He's showing the hit, how he sees what happened on the play, why the hit was illegal, and why he's giving a guy X games. We haven't played a single regular-season game yet and he's already ahead of the disciplinarians in the other sports. It's embarrassing how big an improvement this is over Colie Campbell.

I might actually talk myself into wearing this again...

[PedroSpecialK]

I'm more excited for Brendan Shanahan videos than for the next episode of Breaking Bad. Yes, Soupy was just this incompetent of a hockey-dad-turned-judge/jury/executioner of player safety. Here's his video on Brad Staubitz's hit on Cody Bass:

Link (embed isn't workin for me)

Edited by PedroSpecialK, 26 September 2011 - 05:29 PM.

[Spaulding Smails]

Wiz on the hook to lose about 700K after an 8 game suspension, loved the explanation by Shanny here.

[MiracleOfO2704]

I know I poked fun at it in the other thread, but this supertransparent system is all kinds of awesome. Long gone are the "where'd the dart land today?" jokes. The one thing I'm not looking forward to is the day we get a video of Shanny explaining a hit, wrapping up with, "I have decided to suspend [dumb player X] for the remaining 74 games of the regular season, as well as any playoff games his team may play."

Unless it's Matt Cooke.

[Blacken]

"Matt Cooke has a disgraceful record of cheapshotting other players to the point where he would be thrown out of the WWE. Lifetime ban."

I can dream.

[mikeford]

Shanahan is a boss. He looks like such a hard ass by doing these things. He verbally pimpslapped Wisniewski today.

[The Napkin]

Shanahan is a boss. He looks like such a hard ass by doing these things. He verbally pimpslapped Wisniewski today.

[MoGator71]

I'm eagerly awaiting his ruling on Sestito tonight. Pretty similar dumb-ass hit to what Shelley did.

[The Napkin]

Will be interesting to see what Sestito gets.

*edit* what Mo said...

[fenwaypaul]

I might actually talk myself into wearing this again...

Is that a shorty top and matching miniskirt?

[TheStoryofYourRedRightAnkle]

You make fun, but I hear the 'Gator has the legs to pull it off.

[Blacken]

Will be interesting to see what Sestito gets.

*edit* what Mo said...

Forget the book, I want a rock thrown at him. "You were warned, dumbass."

[Smiling Joe Hesketh]

Shanahan is a boss. He looks like such a hard ass by doing these things. He verbally pimpslapped Wisniewski today.

I want to make sweet love to that video. That is fan-fucking-tastic.

[SidelineCameras]

I hope this whole system puts pressure on other leagues (cough cough NFL cough) to do similar videos of their own. I am tired of at least one Patriot getting fined $15000 every week.

[The Napkin]

Minnesota Wild Brad Staubitz has been suspended for the rest of the preseason and three regular season games.

[MoGator71]

You make fun, but I hear the 'Gator has the legs to pull it off.

Fuckin' right!

[PedroSpecialK]

J-F Jacques, come on down!

http://video.maplele...nsole?id=125073

Edited by PedroSpecialK, 27 September 2011 - 08:28 PM.

[AMcGhie]

Shannahan is not fucking around. He's going to do more with these videos and the suspensions to clean up the game than banning fighting ever could.

[Greg29fan]

I understand the Shanahan love and I completely agree with the videos being a ginormous step forward for the NHL but the Wisniewski suspension is the same one, minus the preseason games, (and really who gives a fuck about those) that the dart landed on in 2010, so I'm not sure he's being any more of a hard ass than his predecessor, he's just explaining things better.

[PC Drunken Friar]

Why wasn't Simmonds suspended/fined? It was obvious that he called Avery a fucking f@ggot.

http://www.nowpublic...ry-2841697.html

Edited by PC Drunken Friar, 27 September 2011 - 09:57 PM.

[MoGator71]

I understand the Shanahan love and I completely agree with the videos being a ginormous step forward for the NHL but the Wisniewski suspension is the same one, minus the preseason games, (and really who gives a fuck about those) that the dart landed on in 2010, so I'm not sure he's being any more of a hard ass than his predecessor, he's just explaining things better.

For me this is 100% where the improvement lies. Occasionally the dart board was right, the way a broken clock is right twice a day. But Shanny's giving us an explanation why guys are getting what they got, and hopefully we'll get to the point where guys have a pretty good idea what they can expect when the make a dirty or reckless play. You certainly couldn't say that about Colie's dart board.

[mikeford]

Why wasn't Simmonds suspended/fined? It was obvious that he called Avery a fucking f@ggot.

http://www.nowpublic...ry-2841697.html

No on-ice confirmation from officials for one. For two, Campbell still handles these types of things. Shanny handles player safety. Calling someone a f***** doesn't fall under his jurisdiction.

[Jed Zeppelin]

I would love to know the backstory of these videos. If it was primarily Shanny's idea or a collaboration or what. It's simply brilliant. I think NHL refs, in general, do a very nice job compared to their counterparts in the other major sports but this adds some much-needed legitimacy at the operational level. The shadow government stuff and the half-measures just don't fly.

[MoGator71]

Let the second-guessing begin...2 games for Sestito. I was expecting more, like 4 or 5. He got demoted after the game anyway.

Edit: Also I'm apparently incapable of embedding these videos...

Edited by MoGator71, 28 September 2011 - 09:21 PM.

[PedroSpecialK]

Yeah I can't either, how are you all going about it? Using NHL.com's embed link won't work for me.

[The Napkin]

You have to use the "full editor" reply. Then click "configure post options" under the text box (little green button). Then change "post options" from "html off" to "html on - raw linebreak mode". Then paste the code you copied from nhl.com.

[PedroSpecialK]

<3 thankssssss

[Toe Nash]

This is fantastic. Congratulations to the NHL for realizing it needed to shape up and protect its players.

[The Napkin]

Red Wings' Smith suspended for remainder of preseason and five regular-season games
video won't be posted until later today

[PC Drunken Friar]

ok, now I have never really paid THAT much attention to preseason NHL, but and I know that these hits are under more scrutiny...but this seems like there are WAYYY to many dirty hits for an exhibition season. Is this normal?

[Smiling Joe Hesketh]

ok, now I have never really paid THAT much attention to preseason NHL, but and I know that these hits are under more scrutiny...but this seems like there are WAYYY to many dirty hits for an exhibition season. Is this normal?

A lot of it is because guys are trying to make teams and trying to make an impression on management.

[PedroSpecialK]

I've got a chubby!

[Jed Zeppelin]

ok, now I have never really paid THAT much attention to preseason NHL, but and I know that these hits are under more scrutiny...but this seems like there are WAYYY to many dirty hits for an exhibition season. Is this normal?

Shanny is paying these guys under the table to be sacrificial lambs to help legitimize the new regime. /tinfoil hat

Honestly though, I think it's probably not much different from any other preseason and we (fans and the league) are simply making a real effort to notice and fix the problem.