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#701 patinorange


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Posted 10 September 2011 - 10:09 PM

That's Ellsbury's ball, he backed off a bit when he saw McDonald.


This team has a shitty outfield defense. They do miss the old man out there.

#702 Kilgore A. Trout


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Posted 10 September 2011 - 10:09 PM

So not only do the Sox lose, Paps likely not available tomorrow, but bard takes another hit to his confidence. Just about everything that could have gone wrong tonight did.
The way this team is playing right now they shouldn't be in the playoffs whether they make it or not. They'd just be wasting a slot for a team that might show up and give a damn about the game.

#703 czar


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Posted 10 September 2011 - 10:10 PM

Why didn't Terry walk the bases loaded with 1 out, winning run on 3rd and two of TB's best hitters up and on deck? Worried Bard would BB in the winning run?

#704 Foulkey Reese


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Posted 10 September 2011 - 10:10 PM

Why wouldn't he walked the bases loaded?

#705 Freddy Linn


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Posted 10 September 2011 - 10:10 PM

Closing strong...

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#706 Turrable

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 10:10 PM

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#707 soxin6

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 10:10 PM

Bard is next year's closer???? If so then next year will be even crappier than this September. If they don't start hitting ASAP they are done and will be watching the playoffs from their living rooms.

#708 catomatic


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Posted 10 September 2011 - 10:10 PM

Joe Maddon is the Andre Previn of retread bullpen management.

#709 greek_gawd_of_walks


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Posted 10 September 2011 - 10:10 PM

What is this team if you can't go to Bard? Fucked. That's what.

I'd also contend that Longoria probably should have been put on, but that would just be delaying the inevitable I guess.



#710 bball831

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 10:10 PM

I'm confident Lester comes up big tomorrow. Big Game James won't live up to the name. Still up 4.5 with 27 to play.

#711 Rudy Pemberton


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Posted 10 September 2011 - 10:10 PM

Tomorrow we'll probably find out that Pedroia is hurt, and going to be out the rest of the season.

What. The. Fuck.

#712 Bslang

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 10:10 PM

This goes down as another Tito headscratcher for me. Do Pap's innings really matter when his pitch count is so low?

#713 Ed Hillel


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Posted 10 September 2011 - 10:11 PM

Well that is a spirit breaker. Let's not walk their best player.


1-7 with 4k against Bard.

2-8 now.

#714 patinorange


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Posted 10 September 2011 - 10:11 PM

Bard is next year's closer???? If so then next year will be even crappier than this September. If they don't start hitting ASAP they are done and will be watching the playoffs from their living rooms.



They will sign Paps. No doubter.

#715 BucketOBalls


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Posted 10 September 2011 - 10:11 PM

So not only do the Sox lose, Paps likely not available tomorrow, but bard takes another hit to his confidence. Just about everything that could have gone wrong tonight did.
The way this team is playing right now they shouldn't be in the playoffs whether they make it or not. They'd just be wasting a slot for a team that might show up and give a damn about the game.


It's not a confidence or effort thing. They just suck.

#716 Age of Aquarius

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 10:11 PM

Since this streak started on 8/30, a total of two quality starts in twelve games.


In fairness, that's the total number of quality starting pitchers the Sox have in total, unless you count the walking injury known as Erik Bedard.

Edited by Age of Aquarius, 10 September 2011 - 10:13 PM.


#717 Foulkey Reese


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Posted 10 September 2011 - 10:11 PM

So not only did they lose, but now they have no closer for tomorrow.

Could not have gone worse.

Edited by Foulkey Reese, 10 September 2011 - 10:11 PM.


#718 bosockboy


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Posted 10 September 2011 - 10:11 PM

This cock punch week started with Bill Buckner on Curb Your Enthusiasm :)

#719 Rudy Pemberton


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Posted 10 September 2011 - 10:11 PM

It's really ridiculous that there is only one wild card in each league.

#720 canderson

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 10:12 PM

I wish my house still had 12' sewage-filled water in it; it's better than this shitty team.

#721 fenwaypaul

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 10:12 PM

NESN about to set a new record for use of the word "devastating."

#722 nazz45

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 10:12 PM

I'm confident Lester comes up big tomorrow. Big Game James won't live up to the name. Still up 4.5 with 27 to play.

Thankfully, there are only 17 games left.

#723 BucketOBalls


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Posted 10 September 2011 - 10:13 PM

NESN about to set a new record for use of the word "devastating."


Bet they break it tomorrow.

#724 Foulkey Reese


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Posted 10 September 2011 - 10:14 PM

Man, Heidi has great boobs.

#725 LesterFan

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 10:14 PM

I'm so glad those games in August were meaningless.

#726 BucketOBalls


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Posted 10 September 2011 - 10:14 PM

Thankfully, there are only 17 games left.


Even so, it won't be anywhere near as bad as the Mets!

#727 bball831

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 10:14 PM

Thankfully, there are only 17 games left.


Even better. At least the Sox are better than my math. :)

#728 donutogre

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 10:14 PM

This team looks like LeBron in the fourth quarter.

This might be the most accurate assessment of the Sox that I've read recently. What a fucking joke of a team right now.

#729 InsideTheParker


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Posted 10 September 2011 - 10:14 PM

Why wouldn't he walked the bases loaded?


He doesn't seem to manage the game in the way that other managers we may hate and/or resent do. Maddon, Leyland, other managers seem to do more strategizing than Francona. At least in the regular season. Or at least that is how it seems to me.

#730 Fishercat


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Posted 10 September 2011 - 10:16 PM

From Monday, the Red Sox have outscored their opponent and gone 1-5. Awesome. Three one-run losses. 2-8 in September. Cripes

#731 Nomar813

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 10:16 PM

Man, Heidi has great boobs.

Pics for those of us who get cut off on MLB.tv?

#732 judyb

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 10:16 PM

Okay, I was trying to be optimistic before, but now I think they're tired and have decided they don't want to play any extra games in October.

#733 Foulkey Reese


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Posted 10 September 2011 - 10:16 PM

He doesn't seem to manage the game in the way that other managers we may hate and/or resent do. Maddon, Leyland, other managers seem to do more strategizing than Francona. At least in the regular season. Or at least that is how it seems to me.

I'm a huge Tito fan, but he's done some really strange things this season.

#734 bosockboy


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Posted 10 September 2011 - 10:16 PM

He doesn't seem to manage the game in the way that other managers we may hate and/or resent do. Maddon, Leyland, other managers seem to do more strategizing than Francona. At least in the regular season. Or at least that is how it seems to me.


Maddon is a fantastic manager...no doubt.

#735 Rudy Pemberton


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Posted 10 September 2011 - 10:17 PM

Why would you walk the bases loaded? Bard is a strikeout pitcher. He gets a strikeout of Longoria (or a linedrive, pop-out, grounder to 3b, etc) than you have a lot of options. If you walk the bases loaded, you have zero margin of error, not ideal for a guy who can struggle with his control. You walk the bases loaded if you've got a shitty pitcher (or a groundball pitcher); not someone like Bard.

#736 Plympton91


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Posted 10 September 2011 - 10:17 PM

So not only did they lose, but now they have no closer for tomorrow.

Could not have gone worse.


Why wouldn't they have a closer tomorrow? Papelbon threw 16 pitches. I assume the only reason to take him out at that point was so that you'd be sure to have a closer tomorrow.

#737 donutogre

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 10:18 PM

Man, Heidi has great boobs.


True,
But the questions is: can she go six innings without giving up more than 3 runs?

My kingdom for a quality start...

#738 P'tucket, rhymes with...


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Posted 10 September 2011 - 10:18 PM

It's really ridiculous that there is only one wild card in each league.


I dunno. If we survive the next five games against these guys, the last thing I'd want is five more against them.

#739 pav8490

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 10:18 PM

Man, Heidi has great boobs.


killed the wife a little too soon?

#740 patinorange


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Posted 10 September 2011 - 10:19 PM

Fourth series loss in a row. Yikes.

#741 bob burda

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 10:19 PM

It is really unlikely they will win tomorrow.

But I think that will be the low water mark. Losing 9 of 12 is bad, but the '78ers lost 14 of 17. This team is banged up and has its starting pitching issues like that team did, but not as severely. I think they'll get through this - it is a terrible road trip even with a win tomorrow. But if Tampa gets within 2 in the loss column after this series, then I reserve the right to change my mind about all of this.

And whoever was bitching concerning my observations about the Yankees squaring up Bard in that series for two nights in a row - a big hello to you! I didn't want to be on to something there, but I was.

#742 Section15Box113

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 10:20 PM

In fairness, that's the total number of quality starting pitchers the Sox have in total, unless you count the walking injury known as Erik Bedard.


And Bedard gave them one of those QS.

More concerning, they've held their opponents under five runs only three times during that stretch. Two of those three games were losses.

#743 Foulkey Reese


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Posted 10 September 2011 - 10:20 PM

Why wouldn't they have a closer tomorrow? Papelbon threw 16 pitches. I assume the only reason to take him out at that point was so that you'd be sure to have a closer tomorrow.


True, but I wouldn't be surprised if Tito tried to avoid using him for three innings over two days regardless of his pitch count.

#744 greek_gawd_of_walks


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Posted 10 September 2011 - 10:21 PM

Man, Heidi has great boobs.

I'd like to reside in her cleavage.

#745 patinorange


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Posted 10 September 2011 - 10:22 PM

Why would you walk the bases loaded? Bard is a strikeout pitcher. He gets a strikeout of Longoria (or a linedrive, pop-out, grounder to 3b, etc) than you have a lot of options. If you walk the bases loaded, you have zero margin of error, not ideal for a guy who can struggle with his control. You walk the bases loaded if you've got a shitty pitcher (or a groundball pitcher); not someone like Bard.


He's got to walk Longoria. I'm not sure about loading the bases, but why let their best hitter beat you with zero downside to putting him on base? And you create the possible upside of a double play?

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 10:23 PM

Need one.

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#747 Section15Box113

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 10:23 PM

Fourth series loss in a row. Yikes.


First time this season.

#748 Age of Aquarius

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 10:23 PM

And Bedard gave them one of those QS.

More concerning, they've held their opponents under five runs only three times during that stretch. Two of those three games were losses.


Yep. Classic example of everything falling apart at the same time. Lost in all of this is the fact the the Yankees are playing just as badly as the Sox right now, and their injury problems aren't minor either (Posada actually is catching tonight after Martin had to leave the game early). If the Sox could actually win a game or two and put the Rays (mostly) away in the wild card, they'd turn around to find themselves STILL right in the division race, which given how badly they've played is pretty astonishing.

#749 bball831

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 10:24 PM

It is really unlikely they will win tomorrow.

But I think that will be the low water mark. Losing 9 of 12 is bad, but the '78ers lost 14 of 17. This team is banged up and has its starting pitching issues like that team did, but not as severely. I think they'll get through this - it is a terrible road trip even with a win tomorrow. But if Tampa gets within 2 in the loss column after this series, then I reserve the right to change my mind about all of this.

And whoever was bitching concerning my observations about the Yankees squaring up Bard in that series for two nights in a row - a big hello to you! I didn't want to be on to something there, but I was.


Why is it "really unlikely" for them to win tomorrow? Their best pitcher is pitching against another good pitcher.

#750 Ed Hillel


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Posted 10 September 2011 - 10:24 PM

He's got to walk Longoria. I'm not sure about loading the bases, but why let their best hitter beat you with zero downside to putting him on base? And you create the possible upside of a double play?


Again, 1-7 against Bard with 4k. Either move was defensible.




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