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UConn Basketball 2011-2012
#51
Posted 26 November 2011 - 11:55 PM
a win is a win and they needed to win, especally after being up 10 with 10 minutes to go a day after blowing a 16 point lead in the second half vs UCF. But wow is there a lot to work on. It appears Calhoun wants to play Napier, Boatright and Lamb together. Who is the alpha dog? also, trnasition defnese has beeen AWFUL the last two games. Teams push and take quick shots not allowing uconn to get into defnesive sets and its hurting them. FSU is a good team, probably just a notch below Duke in the ACC, but again Uconn had no idea how to face their zone or make FTs to put them away. December should eb a good month to get roles set and defensive mistakes fixed. and play a very good Harvard team
#52
Posted 28 November 2011 - 11:37 AM
The talent on this team is insane.
#53
Posted 08 December 2011 - 08:47 PM
#54
Posted 08 December 2011 - 09:54 PM
Where is Daniels? I love Boatright, but I don't like Daniels losing so many minutes. Napier needs to rest more
#56
Posted 10 December 2011 - 09:29 AM
#60
Posted 19 December 2011 - 10:54 AM
Maybe not now they did just beat Byrant by 20.
the BC coach is pretty good Xs and Os. No way they were as bad as they showed vs HC and BU.
I am a little bummed that Uconn's OOC schedule sucks so bad. and they don't play the Cuse until February (twice). Uconn will really be off the radar nationally until then. Amazing to think that Uconn is going to sneak up on people, but they should be a lot better in six weeks than they are now, especially defensively. Of course, so will most other teams, especially Kentucky.
#61
Posted 19 December 2011 - 11:09 AM
I'm glad they don't play anybody and will be under the radar. They need time to get the young guys ready(especially Drummond and Daniels) for the spotlight of big Big East games. Drummond simply will get beat up by Fab Melo and others on offense, but will hold his own on defense.the BC coach is pretty good Xs and Os. No way they were as bad as they showed vs HC and BU.
I am a little bummed that Uconn's OOC schedule sucks so bad. and they don't play the Cuse until February (twice). Uconn will really be off the radar nationally until then. Amazing to think that Uconn is going to sneak up on people, but they should be a lot better in six weeks than they are now, especially defensively. Of course, so will most other teams, especially Kentucky.
#62
Posted 21 December 2011 - 01:41 AM
#63
Posted 22 December 2011 - 02:30 PM
Any chance they give Ollie the reins for all or part of the time when Calhoun sits his three games? Not exactly super tough competition for those games (USF, St. Johns, Seton Hall) and it might be a good opportunity to get the presumed heir-apparent some experience at the helm. Then again, with such a young team, perhaps they stick with a steady hand like Blaney who has taken over in the past. Or maybe Glen Miller? I would have to think if Ollie gets the nod for all or two of those games, that's a pretty good indication he is next in the line of succession or at least being strongly considered. On the other hand, Blaney would be a pretty fair indicator that Ollie isn't ready yet. I'm personally hoping for Ollie, but W's come first.
no.
#65
Posted 22 December 2011 - 02:49 PM
Miller is the best coach but that Penn job hurt him so I'm not sure about his future at Uconn, Ollie might make a good coach someday but that's not going to be any time soon.
I thought it was pretty clear from the hire that Ollie was being groomed as Calhoun's successor. Clearly he's not ready right now, but I would not be at all shocked if he starts getting handed more and more responsibility over the next few years, and winds up taking over at the end of Calhoun's current contract (three more years?).
#66
Posted 22 December 2011 - 03:09 PM
Miller is the best coach but that Penn job hurt him so I'm not sure about his future at Uconn, Ollie might make a good coach someday but that's not going to be any time soon.
Why is it not going to be anytime soon?
Ollie was basically the "coach on the floor" for most of his NBA career. That's why he lasted as long as he did. Solid, knew the game inside out.
He was basically the poor-man's Mark Jackson, Sam Cassell type of guy for many years in the league... and Mark Jackson is coaching an NBA team with no coaching experience at any level. Avery Johnson didn't groom much. Sam Cassell is an assistant but on the fast track to an NBA HC gig soon enough.
I don't see why Ollie can't succeed Calhoun when he leaves.
#67
Posted 22 December 2011 - 06:48 PM
#68
Posted 22 December 2011 - 07:30 PM
You can't read that article and be afraid to hire him.
He has everything you look for from recruiting skills, credibility, recruiting ties to the west coast while having roots in CT, character, major recruiting success right away, ability to actually practice with players, defensive advice that helped the team win a NC, helping Lamb alot on and off court as a freshman, on and on.
I hope the school isn't going to go the safest route possible and end up boring the shit out of the fans, like they have in football too often.
#69
Posted 23 December 2011 - 12:29 PM
#70
Posted 27 December 2011 - 07:27 AM
#71
Posted 27 December 2011 - 11:41 PM
Ok I can see there's a special place in your heart for the Oll so I'm just going to say to you that I disagree, and it's not about being safe it's about him not being ready to be a head coach at this level. I promise you this, Uconn hires Ollie to be the head coach and Miller is gone (GB is gone with JC), then you'll be sorry.
On the one hand, you are right and by going with Blaney during this stretch, at the very least, they must not feel Ollie is ready. But you can't make it seem like these are a few fanboys with unrealistic expectations. It certainly seems as though the expectation among beat writers or at least the media in general is that Ollie could very well be the guy. There's evidence of that, and it seems credible. For whatever reason, you certainly cannot accept that idea. You say you disagree, but won't elaborate why other than to say he isn't ready, and yet act as if your view of the team is the only credible one when there is nothing but evidence to the contrary. Is it that you think Calhoun is gone after this year and Ollie won't be ready for next season? How long will it take for someone to be 'ready' in your mind? What is 'ready'? Can you please explain your attitude toward Ollie? I'm generally interested in why you have such distaste for the idea of him being next-in-line.
#74
Posted 28 December 2011 - 11:48 PM
That being said, I'd bet the house that Ollie is the next head coach. Sounds like he's got it all going for him. And if Calhoun has any say at all (and I would assume he would) he'll go with Ollie IMO.
It certainly helps that Ollie is already having an impact on the recruiting trail.
#75
Posted 29 December 2011 - 09:00 AM
On the one hand, you are right and by going with Blaney during this stretch, at the very least, they must not feel Ollie is ready. But you can't make it seem like these are a few fanboys with unrealistic expectations. It certainly seems as though the expectation among beat writers or at least the media in general is that Ollie could very well be the guy. There's evidence of that, and it seems credible. For whatever reason, you certainly cannot accept that idea. You say you disagree, but won't elaborate why other than to say he isn't ready, and yet act as if your view of the team is the only credible one when there is nothing but evidence to the contrary. Is it that you think Calhoun is gone after this year and Ollie won't be ready for next season? How long will it take for someone to be 'ready' in your mind? What is 'ready'? Can you please explain your attitude toward Ollie? I'm generally interested in why you have such distaste for the idea of him being next-in-line.
I think I've made my position pretty clear, the reason I feel Ollie can not possibly be ready or near ready to coach at this level is he appears to be little more than a guy offering emotional support on the bench. I don't dislike Ollie I think he's had a great career and he'll probably make a good head coach one day because he's being tutored by the best, but I think writers annointing him the next head coach of Uconn are doing absolutely nothing but guess work, I don't see any reason to suggest there's a leak from the university, and there isn't a Connecticut writer who's earned credibility for having an inside track to the Uconn basketball program, I take their speculation about as seriously as I take the on-line forum speculation; maybe there's something to it if it passes the smell test and so far this one isn't passing the smell test. When Glen Miller is running the huddle, as you clearly saw last night, you can not tell me Kevin Ollie is going to be ready to head coach next year. Even if he is put in the head coaching position, I'll say someone's insane, if you can't trust the guy to lead the team in anything, at any point during any game, if he's not doing anything aside from individual instruction, which he's obviously been limited to during games, how can you tell me he's a good choice for head coach as soon as next year? What do you base that on? Did he even do one recruiting trip alone this past season? What is ready, how about more than a seasn as the guy at the end of the bench looking all pretty?
Edited by JesusShuttlesworth, 29 December 2011 - 09:04 AM.
#76
Posted 29 December 2011 - 09:25 AM
When Glen Miller is running the huddle, as you clearly saw last night, you can not tell me Kevin Ollie is going to be ready to head coach next year. Even if he is put in the head coaching position, I'll say someone's insane, if you can't trust the guy to lead the team in anything, at any point during any game, if he's not doing anything aside from individual instruction, which he's obviously been limited to during games, how can you tell me he's a good choice for head coach as soon as next year?
I think we're all getting messed up here. Jesus, as far as I can tell nobody here is suggesting that Ollie will be ready to coach UConn as early as next year. Calhoun's contract runs until 2014 - and I don't really see him just disappearing after this year, it certainly seems as if this group of players has rejuvenated him. So I don't think anyone here is saying that if Calhoun leaves after this year, that Ollie should be the head coach. I think it's more that from the way he was brought on, and from what the chatter was when he was hired, it certainly seemed plausible that Calhoun was grooming him to take over in 2014 when his contract is up. That would give Ollie 3 more seasons (11-12, 12-13, 13-14) to learn the nuances of head coaching and gain more experience. And you're right, it could be Glen Miller, but I don't honestly know that he's the best choice to direct this program into the next era.
#77
Posted 29 December 2011 - 10:14 AM
#78
Posted 29 December 2011 - 02:01 PM
1) Dickenmann thinks he would be a great choice as Calhoun's successor. That's not just some online poster's thoughts.
2) Ollie apparently had a significant hand in landing Daniels this year and Omar Calhoun next year
3) He has tried to insert things in practice, and the article made mention to a defensive tactic he preached during practice that helped the team defense during last year's championship run.
Do I think he'd be ready next year? No. Do I feel that another 2-3 years under Calhoun and on the recruiting trail and with his experience as a player at UConn and in the NBA he'd be ready? Yep. When you spend so many years around coaches like Calhoun and Larry Brown some of that definitely washes off on you.
Also keep in mind that Calhoun will have at least some type of impact on who the next coach is. You better believe he'll recommend a guy like Ollie- a former player and hard worker and a guy who's kept his nose clean- over a guy like Glen Miller or someone outside the UConn family...unless Ollie appears to be dumb as a rock when it comes to game planning and X's and O's which quite frankly I'd be suprised at considering he's been a point guard at the highest levels.
#79
Posted 29 December 2011 - 03:17 PM
edit: with Hathaway gone and Herbst in place, it is almost a lock that Calhoun picks his succussor
Edited by Clears Cleaver, 29 December 2011 - 03:19 PM.
#80
Posted 29 December 2011 - 04:06 PM
Ollie got high praise, comon man what do you want Howie to say, what's JC going to say, Ollie isn't cut out to be a coach? We have no idea what Ollie is cabable of and it's crazy to base our assumptions on what's been said about him in media. Probably he's going to be the next head coach, I guess, but cleaver you're stating it as fact just flat out annointing the guy after he's had ONE full season as a bench coach where he's obviously not participating in the huddle? Get out. Show me where I can see with my eyes he's doing coaching, actual real live coaching with a team during play and I'll buy it.
And NO, he hasn't done a better job recruiting than anyone else, that's a crazy statement, he's been here for 2 recruiting seasons and one of those offers was to Kris Dunn who's going to sit the bench for Providence.
#81
Posted 31 December 2011 - 07:07 AM
The Werth Center
#85
Posted 02 January 2012 - 08:21 AM
Moving on (I hope).
Who is a better point guard than Bazz right now? (honest question)
This has to be the worst team I've ever seen when it comes to mid game naps.
Edited by JesusShuttlesworth, 02 January 2012 - 08:24 AM.
#86
Posted 03 January 2012 - 02:22 AM
Do you go to the games and watch the huddles? Because the only criteria I've seen you demand is "active in the huddle". All I have is what I see on TV, but I saw Ollie in a huddle all by himself during a time out with the 5 players that would be on the floor after the whistle. Where is the line between ready and not ready in terms of the huddle?
I could understand you not liking Ollie, but you lose me when you seem to really want Glen Miller much more.
Talent kills X's and O's 98% of the time in college basketball. I want to best recruiter. Finding an X's and O's assistant is cake.
#87
Posted 03 January 2012 - 09:58 AM
You can't gauge the value of an assistant by watching them in a game situation. You need to be there every day in practice to see them working with players, doing scouting reports, and recruiting.How does an assistant coach "show you something" as a casual fan? I can't help but wonder if you might be related/close friends with Glen Miller.
Do you go to the games and watch the huddles? Because the only criteria I've seen you demand is "active in the huddle". All I have is what I see on TV, but I saw Ollie in a huddle all by himself during a time out with the 5 players that would be on the floor after the whistle. Where is the line between ready and not ready in terms of the huddle?
I could understand you not liking Ollie, but you lose me when you seem to really want Glen Miller much more.
Talent kills X's and O's 98% of the time in college basketball. I want to best recruiter. Finding an X's and O's assistant is cake.
#89
Posted 03 January 2012 - 10:50 PM
Absolutely atrocious effort tonight.
Got punched in the mouth early and folded like a cheap suit. Zero leadership out there.
Uconn did the punching early, and had an 11-2 lead, so I wouldn't agree with that statement. Seton Hall is for real this year, with quite a few quality wins. The butt kicking by Syracuse did wake us up, and the whole "Who is Herb Pope?" got the team fired up. Big win for the Hall.
#91
Posted 04 January 2012 - 01:24 AM
#92
Posted 04 January 2012 - 08:44 AM
How does an assistant coach "show you something" as a casual fan? I can't help but wonder if you might be related/close friends with Glen Miller.
Do you go to the games and watch the huddles? Because the only criteria I've seen you demand is "active in the huddle". All I have is what I see on TV, but I saw Ollie in a huddle all by himself during a time out with the 5 players that would be on the floor after the whistle. Where is the line between ready and not ready in terms of the huddle?
I could understand you not liking Ollie, but you lose me when you seem to really want Glen Miller much more.
Talent kills X's and O's 98% of the time in college basketball. I want to best recruiter. Finding an X's and O's assistant is cake.
It really takes a blowhard, Mike, to suggest someone who disagrees with you must know Miller on a personal level, that the only possible way my opinion could make any sense is if I were emotionally invested in the guy. I know you're not a blowhard so think about it for a minute.
I did not say Miller would be a better coach for this team, I said he obviously had more responsibility and if he had not just been fired from Penn he'd have been a better candidate, not because I know him, but because he's got decades of experience and aside from Penn has a solid resume. I do not, nor did I say, nor did I imply that I do not like Ollie.
I prefer someone who's had success at the D-1 level, and if you think all it takes to win is talent and you can find a good x's and o's guy, no problem, you should phone Kentucky and ask for Calipari, tell him you've got valuable information but it's gonna cost him.
Edited by JesusShuttlesworth, 04 January 2012 - 08:45 AM.
#93
Posted 04 January 2012 - 08:56 AM
But really, UConn came out of the gate looking like champions then collapsed. Napier looked terrible and Drummond was standing around doing his best ghost impression for long stretches of the game. No excuse as to why Blaney tinkered with the lineup when they were lights out in the beginning but outside of Lamb no one else stepped up when the going got tough. I don't like to complain about/blame the refs, but it was clear they weren't giving UConn the calls UConn wanted yet UConn did nothing to adjust their play accordingly. Hopefully Calhoun's first day back from the suspension will be spent running suicides at practice.
As Bazz goes the Huskies go. Giffey and Olander showed me they deserve more minutes than AO. Looking forward to getting Calhoun back.
#94
Posted 04 January 2012 - 09:40 AM
#95
Posted 07 January 2012 - 11:55 PM
Kept waiting for him to take over the game and he didn't. Even if they aren't passing you the ball, demand it. You've got more street cred than your point guards, Jeremy.
#96
Posted 08 January 2012 - 09:07 AM
they ahve two winnable games this week then a week off. Big time changes are in store or else this season will be a disappointment. The lack of non-conf opponents also menas that they will have to beat syracuse or GTown to have a quality win. Amazing, but the big east sucks this year.
#97
Posted 08 January 2012 - 10:50 PM
And they are getting absolutely nothing from THE 3-4 spots on the floor.
Yes. That position has been non-existent all year, and that's big problem against the zone. They need somebody to split the zone at the foul line like Adrien did in 09.
Has anybody else noticed that Lamb just can't take anybody off the dribble? He only takes over games when he is running around off-ball screens. That's also a huge problem because off-ball screens don't work against the zone.
#100
Posted 09 January 2012 - 09:29 PM
Things I liked:
1. Drummond making 10-foot jumpers.
2. Drummond blocking that last shot, recovering the ball, and sending it forward for a break (although I still wonder if he stepped out of bounds on that play).
3. The tenacious team D that created several turnovers in the last 12 minutes.
Things that have me concerned:
1. Rebounding seems to be a weak spot on defense.
2. Shebazz seems to have difficulty protecting his dribble.
Earlier in the thread, someone commented that Lamb needs to be more vocal, but I disagree. His game is a lot like Richard Hamilton's, and like Rip with Khalid El-Amin, he had a strong floor leader in Kemba Walker last year. I'm not sure if Shebazz or Boatright will be that floor leader this year. I know it's early to say this, but I really hope Drummond comes back next year as well as both PG's.
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