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[terrynever]

As you may have heard, Yanks and Red Sox begin a three-game series tonight at Fenway. There are plenty of story lines. CC still winless against Red Sox this season (0-4, 7.20 ERA), which is embarrassing and troubling at the same time. With a win, Sabathia would become just the fifth Yankees pitcher to win at least 18 games in three or more consecutive seasons and the first since Vic Raschi had four straight seasons of at least 18 wins from 1948-51
Granderson, Swisher and Teixeira are swinging the bat well. Cano could be the key to the series. He normally kills at Fenway but went in the tank during the last visit. Swisher has reached the 20-homer plateau in each of the last seven seasons, one of just three AL players to accomplish the feat: David Ortiz and Paul Konerko are the others. Swisher has six homers in his last seven games.
A-Rod's thumb MRI went well yesterday. He's "day-to-day" according to Girardi, who might sit the guy and let the lefty-swinging Chavez play third base. If A-Rod's ready, one wonders who the DH will be -- Posada or Chavez.
You would expect Jeter to return to the lineup tonight.
Lackey may be the whipping boy of Red Sox fans but he's a professional pitcher with plenty of big game experience. He has won his last three starts against the Yankees, who need to get him early.
Boston holds a 1.5-game lead (1 in the loss column). It might be a good idea for the Yankees not to get swept. Tampa's not dead yet.

[rembrat]

Well, boys, its that time again.

Prepare your anuses.

[terrynever]

Well, boys, its that time again.

Prepare your anuses.

The worm turns beginning tonight. Red Sox had their usual first-half fun. Party's over, Rembrat. Be ready to begin your 'how did this Boston team not win it all?' investigation in early October.

[Bucknahs Bum Ankle]

The worm turns beginning tonight. Red Sox had their usual first-half fun. Party's over, Rembrat. Be ready to begin your 'how did this Boston team not win it all?' investigation in early October.

Last I checked August 5-7 was second half. Yep, still having fun.

[terrynever]

Last I checked August 5-7 was second half. Yep, still having fun.

Yanks were just baiting the trap in early August.

[jon abbey]

CC had better crank it up tonight, or we're maybe looking at another sweep. Hughes could be OK, but Burnett in the third game is going to be batting practice.

[rembrat]

Hughes could be OK

8.83 ERA at Fenway says different.

[Mystic Merlin]

CC had better crank it up tonight, or we're maybe looking at another sweep. Hughes could be OK, but Burnett in the third game is going to be batting practice.

No.

[ThePrideofShiner]

I'm so glad I don't get to watch this game tonight.

There is no way this isn't a reverse lock for the Red Sox.

[ThePrideofShiner]

Is CC getting hosed as bad by the ump as GameDay leads me to believe?

Edit: Lucky to get out of there with no runs allowed, but his pitch count is extremely disconcerting.

Edited by crakerraker, 30 August 2011 - 07:00 PM.

[MH76]

Is CC getting hosed as bad by the ump as GameDay leads me to believe?

Edit: Lucky to get out of there with no runs allowed, but his pitch count is extremely disconcerting.

Yeah, fastballs at the knees arent strikes tonight..

[ThePrideofShiner]

September 1st and Jesus Montero can not come soon enough.

First fucking pitch Jorge? Really? The guy is all over the place.

[terrynever]

September 1st and Jesus Montero can not come soon enough.

First fucking pitch Jorge? Really? The guy is all over the place.

Yeah, me too.

3-0 lead aint big enuf. This is like root canal surgery.

[ThePrideofShiner]

I find it bizarre that Sabathia seems to be the only pitcher in baseball that can't get Crawford out.

Edit: Or McDonald.

Edited by crakerraker, 30 August 2011 - 07:48 PM.

[ThePrideofShiner]

Time to be productive at work rather than watch this shitshow.

God, Sabathia is infuriating to watch against the Red Sox this year.

Stop giving up hits to shitty hitters.

[terrynever]

Bullpen game. That was supposed to be the strength of the 2011 Yanks. Sori in the 7th. Bring it on.

BTW, I am bleeding internally.

[rembrat]

Nah, CC coming back out to cough up the lead. Hasnt that been his m.o this year against the Sox? Getting knocked out of games.

[terrynever]

Nah, CC coming back out to cough up the lead. Hasnt that been his m.o this year against the Sox? Getting knocked out of games.

Big contract players cancel each other out. Gonzo saved CC tonight. This game will be won by Cervelli or Salty. Two baseball players.

Edited by terrynever, 30 August 2011 - 08:43 PM.

[MH76]

Thanks for the HBP, Lackey

Of course he hit him on purpose.. Cervelli's annoying..

Edited by MH76, 30 August 2011 - 08:46 PM.

[terrynever]

Thanks for the HBP, Lackey

Of course he hit him on purpose.. Cervelli's annoying..

Red Sox, 2 runs on 10 hits. Major squanders.

Let's see what this MYF bullpen is like when it counts.

[terrynever]

Boone Logan has balls.

[Mystic Merlin]

Cervelli is the biggest fucking punk in baseball. He's like Bryce Harper without talent.

[terrynever]

Cervelli is the biggest fucking punk in baseball. He's like Bryce Harper without talent.

Yeah, I think you're right. Bryce has talent. Cervelli just irritates people. Even Yankee fans don't like him. But somehow, he helps his team win games.

[MH76]

Dear Nick Swish,

Please get a hit or two in October this year

[terrynever]

The Red Sox are a great team but the Yankees have a few things going for them. Gardner's running catch in the 8th prevents 2nd-and-third with nobody out. How do you quantify that? He doesn't save 25 runs a season but who else makes that catch. Crawford, maybe.

[Mystic Merlin]

Rivera K zone in full fucking effect.

[Mystic Merlin]

BTW, I think your manager is retarded. Should probably get that checked out.

[terrynever]

You pitch 16 years in the big leagues, painting corners, you get those calls. He'll probably only be around a year or two longer. Maddux and Glavine got the same treatment in the NL. The great ones get those calls.

Sox stranded 16 runners. I suspect Tito will blame the loss on this stat, rather than the umpire's strike zone.

The pennant race goes on. No sweep in Boston for the Sox, who are now 10-3 against NY and clearly still the best team in the AL. They have six weeks or more to prove otherwise.

[MH76]

CC had to throw many more pitches tonight because of that ump, so it evens out in my book..

[rembrat]

Um, he isnt just now getting those calls. He has always gotten them because some umpires believe Rivera's cutter actually defies the laws of physics.

[Foulkey Reese]

You pitch 16 years in the big leagues, painting corners, you get those calls. He'll probably only be around a year or two longer. Maddux and Glavine got the same treatment in the NL. The great ones get those calls.

This is the kind of thing that makes me want to stop following baseball.

A strike is a strike.

It's sad because Mo is amazing, he doesn't need strike zone affirmative action to make him look any better. It cheapens him and what he's accomplished.

Edited by Foulkey Reese, 30 August 2011 - 10:20 PM.

[Brianish]

CC had to throw many more pitches tonight because of that ump, so it evens out in my book..

Your book is wrong.



Tell me again how rough that ump was on CC.

Edited by Brianish, 30 August 2011 - 10:32 PM.

[terrynever]

This is the kind of thing that makes me want to stop following baseball.

A strike is a strike.

It's sad because Mo is amazing, he doesn't need strike zone affirmative action to make him look any better. It cheapens him and what he's accomplished.

Come on, Foulkey. That was a great game tonight. The Yanks made some plays in the field that stopped the Sox from scoring eight or nine runs. That's the only way to beat Boston. I consider it a fortunate win but defense is also part of the game. CC was hittable. He also K'd 10 batters in 6 innings. He owned Gonzo. Pedey and Gonzo went 1-for-10 tonight. They are your 3-4 hitters. The Yanks got two runs scored from a fucking catcher from Venezuela by way of Italy. Chavez knocked in two runs while A-Rod was showing off his thumb cast in the dugout.

Baseball is a strange game. The low-rent guys win a lot of games while the big knockers choke with people on base. A-Rod invented this thing. Your guys did it tonight.

Yanks now playing with house money. I hope A-Rod stays in the dugout for two more days.

Edited by terrynever, 30 August 2011 - 10:27 PM.

[Foulkey Reese]

Come on, Foulkey. That was a great game tonight. The Yanks made some plays in the field that stopped the Sox from scoring eight or nine runs. That's the only way to beat Boston. I consider it a fortunate win but defense is also part of the game. CC was hittable but he also K'd 10 batters in 6 innings. He owned Gonzo. Pedey and Gonzo went 1-for-10 tonight. They are your 3-4 hitters. The Yanks got two runs scored from a fucking catcher from Venezuela by way of Italy. Chavez knocked in two runs while A-Rod was showing off his thumb cast in the dugout.

Baseball is a strange game. The low-rent guys win a lot of games while the big knockers choke with people on base. A-Rod invented this thing. Your guys did it tonight.

Yanks now playing with house money. I hope A-Rod stays in the dugout for two more days.

Nothing that you posted had anything to do with the point I was making though. The idea of the best closer in history getting extra help that he doesn't need is a joke.

[terrynever]

Nothing that you posted had anything to do with the point I was making though. The idea of the best closer in history getting extra help that he doesn't need is a joke.

Let me know the next time Papelbon gets a break on the strike zone. I see it all the time. Go get your automated strike zone but in the interim, baseball games will be won by hitters hitting with runners on base. And sometimes hitters hit line drives that are caught.

Look, I respect what you and many other Red Sox fans say, Foulkey, but the Yankees earned this win tonight. They scored 5 runs on 8 hits. Boston scored 2 runs on 13 hits, or whatever it was. Boone Logan came in and saved the day with strikeouts of Salty and Darnell, who both swung at least two pitches each that were out of the strike zone. They got themselves out in the key sequence of the game.

Baseball is not a perfect game. The Yanks won one of those imperfect games tonight.

[Foulkey Reese]

Let me know the next time Papelbon gets a break on the strike zone. I see it all the time. Go get your automated strike zone but in the interim, baseball games will be won by hitters hitting with runners on base. And sometimes hitters hit line drives that are caught.

Look, I respect what you and many other Red Sox fans say, Foulkey, but the Yankees earned this win tonight. They scored 5 runs on 8 hits. Boston scored 2 runs on 13 hits, or whatever it was. Boone Logan came in and saved the day with strikeouts of Salty and Darnell, who both swung at least two pitches each that were out of the strike zone. They got themselves out in the key sequence of the game.

Baseball is not a perfect game. The Yanks won one of those imperfect games tonight.

Yea again, that has nothing to do with what I'm talking about.

[Mystic Merlin]

You're conflating his criticism of the Rivera K zone with the result of the game tonight. Believe it or not, one can believe the Rivera K zone is total horseshit (and what does that have to do with Papelbon? Oh, nothing) without depriving the pinstriped heroes of their just deserts of victory.

[jarules1185]

BTW, I think your manager is retarded. Should probably get that checked out.

A STRIKE is a legal pitch when so called by the umpire, which—
(a) Is struck at by the batter and is missed;
(b) Is not struck at, if any part of the ball passes through any part of the strike
zone;
© Is fouled by the batter when he has less than two strikes;
(d) Is bunted foul;
(e) Touches the batter as he strikes at it;

Mr. Salty was swinging. Pretty obviously too. It should have been a strike. What possible counterargument is there to this?

Edit- the source, from mlb:
http://mlb.mlb.com/m...on_of_terms.pdf

Edited by jarules1185, 30 August 2011 - 10:39 PM.

[Mystic Merlin]

A STRIKE is a legal pitch when so called by the umpire, which—
(a) Is struck at by the batter and is missed;
(b) Is not struck at, if any part of the ball passes through any part of the strike
zone;
© Is fouled by the batter when he has less than two strikes;
(d) Is bunted foul;
(e) Touches the batter as he strikes at it;

Mr. Salty was swinging. Pretty obviously too. It should have been a strike. What possible counterargument is there to this?

Pretty good copy/paste job.

My comment has nothing to do with the call. It has everything to do with Girardi's obviously contrived overreaction.

[Foulkey Reese]

Pretty good copy/paste job.

My comment has nothing to do with the call. It has everything to do with Girardi's obviously contrived overreaction.

So what you're saying is that Jeter isn't a hall of famer?!!?!

[MH76]

Your book is wrong.



Tell me again how rough that ump was on CC.

Are those green triangles the pitches CC threw that were called a ball? That whole cluster of them at the knees were getting me riled up in the early innings..

[jarules1185]

Pretty good copy/paste job.

My comment has nothing to do with the call. It has everything to do with Girardi's obviously contrived overreaction.

I have no idea about Girardi, but I mean, I was as furious as Lowrie was 1 minute before, so I dont see why Girardi couldn't be furious too. And it was the 9th inning in an obviously adrenaline-charged game and brought the tying run to the plate, probably 20 MLB managers chew the ump out for that

[Brianish]

Are those green triangles the pitches CC threw that were called a ball? That whole cluster of them at the knees were getting me riled up in the early innings..

So I assume all the green squares significantly further into the strikezone, as well as all the red triangles way off the plate got you riled up as well?

The ump did CC far more favors than he did disservice, and even if he hadn't, giving away undeserved outs in the ninth inning of a winnable game does not 'even it out'.

[MH76]

So I assume all the green squares significantly further into the strikezone, as well as all the red triangles way off the plate got you riled up as well?

The ump did CC far more favors than he did disservice, and even if he hadn't, giving away undeserved outs in the ninth inning of a winnable game does not 'even it out'.

Why would any squeezing of Lackey get me riled up?

I count 11 missed calls hurting Yankee pitchers and 13 helping them.. Gotta assume 5 or 6 of those were for Rivera. So it evened out at the end (and then some)

[Brianish]

Why would any squeezing of Lackey get me riled up?

Kinda my point.

I count 11 missed calls hurting Yankee pitchers and 13 helping them.. Gotta assume 5 or 6 of those were for Rivera. So it evened out at the end (and then some)

Nice work ignoring the issue of by exactly how much the calls in question missed. And I like that you added "and then some." But I think what you mean to say is "not really at all."

[jon abbey]

So, moving on...

Gardner saved 2-3 runs defensively tonight, not just that catch on Scutaro, but keeping McDonald at third with two outs in the 4th. It doesn't take many games like that to add up to 20-25 for the season.

It would be one of the brilliant strategic moves of all time for Boston to let Burnett shut them out on two hits with 12 Ks on Sunday. Even if he went right back to sucking the next game, he'd almost certainly be in the rotation in a possible ALCS then, when they could go back to battering him at will.

[MH76]

Kinda my point.



Nice work ignoring the issue of by exactly how much the calls in question missed. And I like that you added "and then some." But I think what you mean to say is "not really at all."

I stand by my earlier feeling that CC was getting squeezed early, therefore removing any possible guilt I'd feel over Rivera's gift zone in the 9th..

Not sure what else you want here..

[ThePrideofShiner]

Well, I'll take that win, even if it was a bizarre start from Sabathia.

I'm glad I didn't give this game my undivided attention. I think I would have had a heart attack during the Wade/Logan inning.

Come on Hughes, pull a quality start out of your ass.

Does ARod play tomorrow? That would be nice.

[Brianish]

I stand by my earlier feeling that CC was getting squeezed early, therefore removing any possible guilt I'd feel over Rivera's gift zone in the 9th..

Not sure what else you want here..

A pile of absurdly bad calls doesn't make up for several borderline calls that went against him. Sometimes shit happens, and that's fine. But it doesn't even out. You're just glad things broke in your favor. That's also fine; I would be too. But don't bullshit.