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Lester To The DL.


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#1 phragle


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Posted 05 July 2011 - 07:36 PM

@RedSoxBoston Red Sox After recording 5 strikeouts while tossing four no-hit innings against the Blue Jays, Red Sox ace Jon Lester exited with an apparent injury.
@PeteAbePete AbrahamBe assured that once we know what is wrong with Lester, we'll update you here.

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 07:39 PM

I heard it on good authority he was actually attacked by wolves in the clubhouse runway.

#3 absintheofmalaise


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Posted 05 July 2011 - 07:41 PM

I heard it on good authority he was actually attacked by wolves in the clubhouse runway.

So the medical staff got to him first.

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 07:59 PM

Nope. Lat strain according to Castig

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 08:09 PM

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Depending on severity the typical range for a pitcher to be out with a lat strain is 2-4 weeks



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Posted 05 July 2011 - 08:11 PM

Don't fuck around, immediate second opinion. Third even. But hey, I some of you aren't as skeptical about the last two years as I.

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 08:13 PM

Most of what I'm seeing on searches on Lat strains on pitchers indicate a 15 day DL stint. Given Lester didn't show any sign of the injury it's reasonable to guess that this is a mild one.

Lackey throwing garbage, Dice needing TJ, Buck still dinged up, now Lester out for what will likely be a good 2 weeks (possibly more)... factor in Hill, Lowrie, Crawford and Pedroia/Youk's nagging issues and this team is looking snakebit yet again.

#8 Red(s)HawksFan

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 08:24 PM

Silver lining, if indeed the minimum is two weeks, the all star break could minimize the need for a replacement or perhaps even a DL trip at all. Lester was lined up to start on Sunday, so they will probably need a spot starter unless they decide to just cover it by committee knowing the all star break follows (might be a stretch with Lackey starting Sat though). Then the next time they'd need to fill his slot in the rotation would be two weeks from tonight (5th game back from the ASB). A DL trip prevents any chance of him making that start.

It's extremely optimistic to think he could recover that quickly, but it's certainly possible.

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 08:25 PM

Ooof. Headed to NC to see a specialist. Throwing = Pain of 8 on a 10pt scale.

EDIT: Looked away from the TV for a min... this was about BUCK not LESTER. Sorry for any confusion.

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#10 absintheofmalaise


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Posted 05 July 2011 - 08:26 PM

Don't fuck around, immediate second opinion. Third even. But hey, I some of you aren't as skeptical about the last two years as I.

Yeah, he could have broken some ribs there.

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 08:31 PM

Ooof. Headed to NC to see a specialist. Throwing = Pain of 8 on a 10pt scale.


That was Buchholz Heidi said that about, not Lester.

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 08:33 PM


Ooof. Headed to NC to see a specialist. Throwing = Pain of 8 on a 10pt scale.


Wow. This isn't going to be a 15-day DL kind of thing. A lat strain is bad news for a pitcher. It's frustrating how we can't keep our players on the field in recent years. Our doctors are killing us!!! :rolleyes:

In a week or so our rotation might be Beckett, Wakefield, Miller, Weiland, and Millwood. I'll venture to say that NO ONE had this prediction in the preseason.

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 08:35 PM

That was Buchholz Heidi said that about, not Lester.


That was said about Buchholz? Damn.

#14 MHead81

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 08:36 PM

That was said about Buchholz? Damn.


Yeah, which worried me even more than the Lester situation considering how long he has already been resting. Thank God for the All Star break.

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 08:51 PM

@Sean_McAdamSean McAdamSource: Lat strain will sideline Lester for 2 weeks.

#16 TheYaz67

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 09:00 PM

To quote my own post, from the Buchholz thread, last week....

After he comes back, I fully expect Lester to come down with some mild ailment/flu that sidelines him for a couple starts. Then Theo will have gotten all his top 3 starters a "mid-season rest" to keep them fresh for the stretch run/postseason....

[/conspiracy theory]


Just saying....

#17 Noah

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 09:04 PM

This is weird. There was no indication at all during that game that there was anything wrong.

#18 E5 Yaz


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Posted 05 July 2011 - 09:04 PM

Bowden/Achinson returns to give depth to the pen until they need the Sunday starter?

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 09:06 PM

And just like that, CC Sabathia makes the All Star Team.

#20 Red(s)HawksFan

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 09:07 PM

And just like that, CC Sabathia makes the All Star Team.

How's that? Lester isn't on the team.

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 09:07 PM

And just like that, CC Sabathia makes the All Star Team.

Except he'll be at the same place Lester is for the game: watching it on TV. Sabathia starts on Sunday so he can't pitch.

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 09:12 PM

To quote my own post, from the Buchholz thread, last week....



Just saying....

So, you are just saying that the team deliberately pulled Lester from a start after 4 innings of no-hit baseball so they could phantom DL him?

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 09:21 PM

Sean McAdam
Lester: "It's not something I'm worried about. I don't think it's a long-term issue."

Sean McAdam
Lester: "It wasn't one pitch; it was just the whole (fourth) inning"

#24 dauber23

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 09:23 PM

This is weird. There was no indication at all during that game that there was anything wrong.


I re-watched the 4th inning and it looked like Lester was shrugging his left shoulder a few times, like he was trying to get loose.

He was wise to say something about it and get out of the game before making it worse.

#25 TheYaz67

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 09:28 PM

So, you are just saying that the team deliberately pulled Lester from a start after 4 innings of no-hit baseball so they could phantom DL him?


No, it actually doesn't make much sense. Nor does the fact that Buchholz is not back from his DL stint, so that also shoots my theory. But the point stands that something "odd" happened that will result in Lester getting a 2 week "break" mid-season... (which is good, don't get me wrong - I think a similar break did wonders for Beckett one year)

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 09:30 PM

Sucks, but it could give the team a look at Weiland, so that's something. Injuries are shitty, but Miller has stepped up, now it's time for Weiland to do the same. 2-4 weeks, over the ASB, isn't the worst thing in the world.

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 09:46 PM

PeteAbe Pete Abraham Lester is not concerned. But DL seems likely given the caution #RedSox usually employ. Aceves has been told he's starting Sunday.


bradfo Rob Bradford Matt Albers, he of a previous lat injury, told Lester it was 5-6 days before he was throwing and didn't feel anything again after that



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Posted 05 July 2011 - 09:54 PM

How's that? Lester isn't on the team.


Nothing to see here. Move along.


So barring a setback, we're looking at the need for a starter on Sunday and then someone to go on the 19th.

#29 DaveRoberts'Shoes


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Posted 05 July 2011 - 10:00 PM

I texted someone very close to the situation, he said - "we'll know more tomorrow, but hopeful." I take that as a relatively good sign, meaning probably a ten days to two weeks. I will post more if i hear anything else

#30 Noah

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 10:12 PM

He was wise to say something about it and get out of the game before making it worse.


Definitely agreed on that. I wish Lester had taught Daisuke a thing or two about this.

#31 joe dokes

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Posted 06 July 2011 - 07:18 AM

Although there might be a slight variation due to their diffferent roles, I would think the Albers comparison is a good one. He didn't really look hurt until he was DL'd and he came back without really missing a beat.

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Posted 06 July 2011 - 07:58 AM

I didn't see anything after the 1st inning...did Lester have no-hit stuff? The few highlights I saw showed he was burying his cutter deep in to righties and they had no chance, and that his fastball was pinpoint perfect to lefties. I don't remember seeing that much this year prior to last night. It's a damned shame, because if he was starting to hit his stride, finally, (I feel like he's been off all year, just a bit) it sucks to have this come up right now. And suddenly, Josh Beckett has to carry this staff again for awhile. Keep him loose and healthy, please.

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Posted 06 July 2011 - 01:40 PM

brianmacp Brian MacPherson Francona says Lester getting an MRI at 2:30.


*crosses fingers*


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Posted 06 July 2011 - 02:06 PM

I didn't see anything after the 1st inning...did Lester have no-hit stuff? The few highlights I saw showed he was burying his cutter deep in to righties and they had no chance, and that his fastball was pinpoint perfect to lefties.

Yes, I thought his fastball was sharper than it has been so far in 2011. He usually gets swinging strikes on the cutter and curve, but yesterday he was getting swing-and-misses with the fastball. The velocity was the higest it has been in 2011, the vertical movement was outstanding, and sometimes the location was paint. The Fenway pitchfx data didn't get transmitted to the public, but apparently the data did get collected and stored somewhere, because Fangraphs has data on Lester's 4 innings.

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Posted 06 July 2011 - 03:21 PM

*crosses fingers*


I wonder in times like these if Lester ever flashes back to the last time he had pain in his back and went for further imaging. I bet his parents do. Stuff like this really hits home the idea that at 27, he's just a kid, in real-life years.

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Posted 06 July 2011 - 03:36 PM

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Lester on the DL


First day eligible to get off is 7/22 at home against Seattle. Sox call up Atchison.

Edited by RedOctober3829, 06 July 2011 - 03:39 PM.


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Posted 06 July 2011 - 03:44 PM

First day eligible to get off is 7/22 at home against Seattle. Sox call up Atchison.


With the two starts he'll miss (the 10th and the 19th) coming against the Orioles.

#38 TheYaz67

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Posted 06 July 2011 - 04:20 PM

With the two starts he'll miss (the 10th and the 19th) coming against the Orioles.


Fantastic, he sucks against that team!

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Posted 06 July 2011 - 04:49 PM

First day eligible to get off is 7/22 at home against Seattle. Sox call up Atchison.

Since he last pitched on 7/5 wouldn't he be eligible to come off on 7/20 against Baltimore?

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Posted 06 July 2011 - 04:55 PM

I wonder in times like these if Lester ever flashes back to the last time he had pain in his back and went for further imaging. I bet his parents do. Stuff like this really hits home the idea that at 27, he's just a kid, in real-life years.

Have to admit, I found this comment chilling.

You know, it's all well and good that we can count 15 days as equalling two starts... but if that's all he misses, I'd be pleased.

Meantime, if Aceves's start doesn't go well this weekend I'd advocate getting a quick look at Weiland for the game on the 20th. The thinner the rotation gets, the more I like having a multi-inning option like Ace in the bullpen.

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Posted 06 July 2011 - 10:29 PM

First day eligible to get off is 7/22 at home against Seattle. Sox call up Atchison.

With the two starts he'll miss (the 10th and the 19th) coming against the Orioles.

Fantastic, he sucks against that team!

He's been just as good against Seattle - arguably better if you really care about K rates.

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Posted 07 July 2011 - 06:13 AM

They said on the radio of last night's game that Aceves has not been told he's making the start.

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Posted 07 July 2011 - 07:15 AM

They said on the radio of last night's game that Aceves has not been told he's making the start.


It wont happen (and on sober reflection probably shouldn't), but given Aceves's recent work as a starter, I'd love to see 3-day Wake start, backed up by Johnny Wholestaff on Sunday.

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Posted 07 July 2011 - 08:09 AM

Wakefield, who turns 45 next month, on 3-days rest seems extremely unlikely. Maybe 20 years ago.

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Posted 16 July 2011 - 07:38 AM

Tito with a Lester update as reported in ESPN

Lester (lat strain) played long toss at 90 feet Friday afternoon and is expected to stretch that to 120 feet on Saturday.

“He did really well and felt nothing,” Francona said. “He’s doing real well.”

If he continues to progress, Lester will take Sunday off and throw a side session on Monday in Baltimore. When asked if Lester would need a minor-league rehab start before he’s activated from the DL, Francona seemed to think the lefthander would not need it because he wasn’t shut down that long and the extent of the injury was not bad.

“We’ll certainly see what’s in his best interest,” Francona said.

If everything goes well, there’s a possibility Lester could start against the Seattle Mariners on July 22 at Fenway.

“He thinks he’ll be ready to do that, which I’m thrilled. When he pitches, we don’t want to mess him up. There’s a few things to think about, but he thinks he’ll be more than ready and the good news is he feels good enough.” Francona said



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Posted 17 July 2011 - 04:23 PM

Sean_McAdam Sean McAdam Jon Lester now scheduled to return to rotation Tuesday, July 26






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