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[Midre Cum Ingz]

Want Derek Fisher so we can add a 2nd player from the Lakers.

[SoxScout]

johnmanuelba John Manuel
#RedSox take portfolio approach to C with Jordan Weems, whose older brother's in pro ball; lanky, lean, plus arm, good swing path

[ScubaSteveAvery]

It's not unheard of.

/prospect love

Edit: And one closer to home...

And another.

Looking around, it is more prominent than I thought. The two you've mentioned (I knew Mauer was tall) but Wieters is 6'5" too. Posada is 6'2" as well.

[RedOctober3829]

Yankees select Cote from NH.

[mabrowndog]

Story on Weems with video

Nice LH batting stroke, looks pretty damned good going to the opposite field.

Needs some major dental work.

[phragle]

FUCK

[DaubachmanTurnerOD]

Protected from what?

You only get compensation for failure to sign first round picks, not supplemental, 2nd, or 3rd rounders.

Yeah, this was my question. I couldn't recall.

Though Bigpupp will always be in my heart for responding so promptly, I will choose to believe that you are right because a) that's what my recollection was, and b) by forming a longer sentence, you sound more authoratative (not always the rule, but it is so in this case).

Thanks for the re-clarification.

[TheGoldenGreek33]

Like I said, be afraid of the Rays.

[Snodgrass'Muff]

Looking around, it is more prominent than I thought. The two you've mentioned (I knew Mauer was tall) but Wieters is 6'5" too. Posada is 6'2" as well.

Tex is 6'2 if we're going down an inch. It really isn't all that rare.

[LahoudOrBillyC]

Looking around, it is more prominent than I thought. The two you've mentioned (I knew Mauer was tall) but Wieters is 6'5" too. Posada is 6'2" as well.

There is also one honored on the right-field facade at Fenway Park.

[th@tkid]

Story on Weems with video

Nice LH batting stroke, looks pretty damned good going to the opposite field.

Needs some major dental work.

that is probably the funniest (only?) thing you have ever said on here that stuff should be part of the draft write ups... needs proactiv, has more teeth than a shark, etc

[Midre Cum Ingz]

Looking around, it is more prominent than I thought. The two you've mentioned (I knew Mauer was tall) but Wieters is 6'5" too. Posada is 6'2" as well.

Varitek and Salty are both 6'4.

[5050HindSight]

In a chat yesterday (I think), Kevin Goldstein said that baseball should allow trading of picks, but that hard slotting would "kill baseball." (He said there would be a follow up article explaining his position.)

Has anyone heard that position/argument before? Do you know how the theory goes?

If you are good at multiple sports, but can "only" get a slotted 250K (let's say) from where you are drafted in baseball, you go on to college and play football or basketball or whatever instead. In other words, more athletes would steer away from baseball instead of towards it if you knew you could cash in at an earlier age.

Something like that.

I like Goldstein (which judging from others, I'm probably in the minority) but I think his comments are a bit hyperbolic.

[Bigpupp]

Yeah, this was my question. I couldn't recall.

Though Bigpupp will always be in my heart for responding so promptly, I will choose to believe that you are right because a) that's what my recollection was, and b) by forming a longer sentence, you sound more authoratative (not always the rule, but it is so in this case).

Thanks for the re-clarification.

It's the first three rounds. This year the Seattle Mariners got compensation pick #121 for failure to sign Ryne Stanek from last years 3rd round.

Edited by Bigpupp, 07 June 2011 - 12:25 PM.

[Wingack]

Cote sounds interesting:

In the high school ranks, righthander Jordan Cote, at 6-foot-5 and 205 pounds, has a projectable frame that scouts dream about. His fastball sits at 88-90 mph and touches 92, and adding strength and pitching in warmer weather should help bump his velocity, especially because he has great hand speed. His arm action is clean, but his mechanics need to be refined, as he has long levers and is still growing into his body. Inability to repeat his delivery restricts him from throwing a consistent breaking ball. Cote has better feel for his curveball than his slider, though he shows the ability to spin the ball. He hasn't needed to throw his changeup and it's a work in progress. For his size more than his stuff, Cote has drawn comparisons to Chris Carpenter, One scout said Cote has the highest ceiling of any pitcher in the Northeast. He should get taken between the eighth and 12th rounds, with late-spring buzz that he could be going higher.

[Snodgrass'Muff]

Varitek and Salty are both 6'4.

Where are you seeing Tek at 6'4? I keep seeing him listed at 6'2 wherever I look.

[cahlton]

Varitek and Salty are both 6'4.

Really? Varitek is "officially" 6'2. That said, I'm 5'10 and I've stood beside him at Fenway and he's at least a full inch shorter than me.

[TheGoldenGreek33]

Osich, Winkler, Fulmer top three pitchers remaining.

Dean, Brandon Martin, Derek Fisher top three hitters remaining.

[Carl Everetts Therapist]

Just joining the frey.... So who are the big names left? Did Osich go yet?

[mabrowndog]

Another story on Weems

[SoxScout]

Osich, Winkler, Fulmer top three pitchers remaining.

Dean, Brandon Martin, Derek Fisher top three hitters remaining.

Winker probably had a major arm injury a few nights ago. Osich has health concerns.

[LeftyTG]

I'd be surprised if Purke signs. He should go back to TCU and pitch his senior year and shows that he's healthy. Could be a Raunado and go to the Cape and pitch, but he's not nearly as healthy as Raunado was at this point last season.

Purke is actually a draft eligible sophomore, so he can go back to TCU, show he is healthy and be drafted again as a junior and still maintain some draft leverage.

[Carl Everetts Therapist]

wow the Nats are killing it... I think Arizona and Toronto are doing well too

[Snodgrass'Muff]

Winker probably had a major arm injury a few nights ago. Osich has health concerns.

At what point does Osich fall far enough that the health concerns are outweighed by the value that a team feels it can get from the pick?

[TheGoldenGreek33]

At what point does Osich fall far enough that the health concerns are outweighed by the value that a team feels it can get from the pick?

Not far, considering he came back very strong.

[phragle]

Osich, Winkler, Fulmer top three pitchers remaining.

Dean, Brandon Martin, Derek Fisher top three hitters remaining.

Still available?
Amir Garrett
Christian Lopes
Granden Goetzman

Edited by phragle, 07 June 2011 - 12:32 PM.

[5050HindSight]

It's the first three rounds. This year the Seattle Mariners got compensation pick #121 for failure to sign Ryne Stanek from last years 3rd round.

Wow... my bad. I had thought it was only the first round, but it appears that you are correct.

First and Second round, you get a pick 1 greater than your unsigned pick. (Ie: if you didn't sign your 1st rounder taken 10th, you get the 11th pick next year). If you fail to sign your Third round pick, you get a sandwich pick between the 3rd and 4th rounds.

Learn something new everyday, it appears.

[TheGoldenGreek33]

Dillon Maples also still on the board.

[phragle]

Not far, considering he came back very strong.

He left his game sunday with elbow tightness

[TheGoldenGreek33]

Still available?
Amir Garrett
Christian Lopes
Granden Goetzman

Goetzman was taken by the Rays at 75.

[Carl Everetts Therapist]

I hope the sox go with Lopes or Martin at 142

[Bigpupp]

Still available?
Amir Garrett
Christian Lopes
Granden Goetzman

I SERIOUSLY doubt that Amir Garrett signs, but damn, it's easy to dream on him.

[Carl Everetts Therapist]

Dillon Maples also still on the board.

Yeah that's right... wasn't Maples linked to the sox at one point?

[TheGoldenGreek33]

He left his game sunday with elbow tightness

Did not know that. Thanks.

[Jack Sox]

Really? Varitek is "officially" 6'2. That said, I'm 5'10 and I've stood beside him at Fenway and he's at least a full inch shorter than me.

There's literally no way this is true.

[phragle]

Goetzman was taken by the Rays at 75.

Bitch, now I'm pissed.

Lopes please.

[Carl Everetts Therapist]

He left his game sunday with elbow tightness

supposedly precaustionary though so hopefully he's oK

[TheGoldenGreek33]

Yeah that's right... wasn't Maples linked to the sox at one point?

Yep.

[phragle]

I SERIOUSLY doubt that Amir Garrett signs, but damn, it's easy to dream on him.

I'd pick him and trade him to the celtics

[Carl Everetts Therapist]

Hey so does anyone know what the deal was with Speck? was he declared ineligible?

[phragle]

Can't believe Martin and Fisher are still around

[TheGoldenGreek33]

Hey so does anyone know what the deal was with Speck? was he declared ineligible?

Correct. Ineligible.

[Bigpupp]

I'd pick him and trade him to the celtics

I laughed....

[Midre Cum Ingz]

Really? Varitek is "officially" 6'2. That said, I'm 5'10 and I've stood beside him at Fenway and he's at least a full inch shorter than me.

That's weird. You guys are right. I'm positive he used to be listed at 6'4. They changed it.

They also exaggerate the heights like crazy.

I'm 5'8/5'9 and I met Prince Fielder...same exact height as me, yet he's listed at 5'11.

Gio Gonzalez mysteriously grew an inch this year. Same with Cahill and Romero.

[Snodgrass'Muff]

With Toronto being so aggressive early on, I wonder if they'll take a chance on Osich?

[Mugsys Jock]

Jerez:

I mentioned it in another thread, but please forgive the repetition... my son induced Jerez into a ground out this year.

I'm no kind of pro evaluator, but I did see him play 3 times. While he was likely the best senior player I saw this year in NYC, it wasn't like he was otherworldly dominating. [I like two juniors more.] He is clearly quite an athlete -- I found the pre-games throws he took from the outfield more impressive than his pre-game BP (which was pretty noteworthy itself, needless to say).

He came from the Dominican to Grand Street where he played last year as a Freshman. This year, allegedly because of a new and improved transcript that showed up, he played as a Senior. Not the normal aging direction for players from the Dominican... but fishy at any rate.

Not that it means anything at all, but he appeared to be a nice enough kid -- paying attention in handshake lines and the like while many of his teammates were busy congratulating only each other.

I am highly confident he has zero interest in pursuing college.

At any rate, because he's a city kid (kind of), because my kid got him to bounce out to third, because he told the MFY his first allegiance was to Pedro and Papi -- here's to you, Williams.

[ScubaSteveAvery]

A's love the Cal Poly San Luis Obispo program. Took Desme a few years ago and now Crocker. The program doesn't get consistent play by a lot of other teams.

[TheGoldenGreek33]

I mentioned it in another thread, but please forgive the repetition... my son induced Jerez into a ground out this year.

I'm no kind of pro evaluator, but I did see him play 3 times. While he was likely the best senior player I saw this year in NYC, it wasn't like he was otherworldly dominating. [I like two juniors more.] He is clearly quite an athlete -- I found the pre-games throws he took from the outfield more impressive than his pre-game BP (which was pretty noteworthy itself, needless to say).

He came from the Dominican to Grand Street where he played last year as a Freshman. This year, allegedly because of a new and improved transcript that showed up, he played as a Senior. Not the normal aging direction for players from the Dominican... but fishy at any rate.

Not that it means anything at all, but he appeared to be a nice enough kid -- paying attention in handshake lines and the like while many of his teammates were busy congratulating only each other.

I am highly confident he has zero interest in pursuing college.

At any rate, because he's a city kid (kind of), because my kid got him to bounce out to third, because he told the MFY his first allegiance was to Pedro and Papi -- here's to you, Williams.

Thanks. How is the competition in the area? He hit .690.

[Eric Van]

Still on the board, I think:

41 Josh Osich, lhp
46 Dillon Maples, rhp
54 Matt Dean
62 Charlie Lowell
66 Derek Fisher
72 Tyler Marlette

[phragle]

Your mircophone has aids, fix it!