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2011 MLB Draft Game Thread: Day 1


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#101 ehaz

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 03:22 PM

Chicago's drafting strategy really boggles my mind. Why they would bother to draft unknown Cuban defectors and the Hayden Simpsons of the world with their first pick? I do not know. Would they really not be available at their next picks?

#102 TheGoldenGreek33

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 03:23 PM

I can't decide which is worse: Simpson last year or Spock this year.

#103 TheGoldenGreek33

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 03:25 PM

Chicago's drafting strategy really boggles my mind. Why they would bother to draft unknown Cuban defectors and the Hayden Simpsons of the world with their first pick? I do not know. Would they really not be available at their next picks?

I give them a little credit for sticking to their board and not the publications'.

#104 ehaz

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 03:28 PM

I give them a little credit for sticking to their board and not the publications'.

I guess, but I mean, Simpson is getting SHELLED in A ball. And he doesn't even have the high school pitcher adjusting to the pros excuse.

#105 ItOnceWasMyLife

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 03:35 PM

Speaking of counting, 150 minutes to go. Man this day has dragged on.

My thanks to all GG33, ehaz, phragle et al for the insight. Wish I had the time to watch some of these kids. Wish I had the chance to be some of these kids!

#106 Sox Pride

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 03:38 PM

I give them a little credit for sticking to their board and not the publications'.


It really depends on whether they've got a feeling for the other teams' boards. If no one else has him in the top 100, you're making a big mistake grabbing him in the top 10.

#107 ehaz

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 03:44 PM

This is just hilarious. Rumors of the Cubs wanting Starling to fall to them have been around for days. Just as it appears like it actually might happen, it comes out that they want... Speck?

Edited by ehaz, 06 June 2011 - 03:45 PM.


#108 IKONOS

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 03:48 PM

Fine tuning it it still, I took off Fitt and Rodgers who were talking all about the tourny and not the draft. I'll update throughout tomorrow based on who is talking what and post it a few time as updates come.

You can check it's current version here: http://goo.gl/09bwx


Is this tweetgrid working? I dont see any tweets once i open it up/ Its been like that for the last hour or so.

#109 TheGoldenGreek33

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 03:49 PM

Is this tweetgrid working? I dont see any tweets once i open it up/ Its been like that for the last hour or so.

Just type in #mlbdraft in the search box on twitter.

#110 Razor Shines

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 03:52 PM

I can't decide which is worse: Simpson last year or Spock this year.

I hear he has a plus plus Vulcan changeup.

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 03:52 PM

[Comment From Daniel Daniel: ]
Swihart is the third best hitter in the draft?
Monday June 6, 2011 4:50 Daniel
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Frankie Piliere:
I have him up in that group, yes.


Really hope they draft him now....

#112 IKONOS

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 03:54 PM

Just type in #mlbdraft in the search box on twitter.


Thanks GG33. I am trying to restrict to few experts so the tweet flow don't overwhelm me. I remember last draft it worked well, but this year no such luck so far.

#113 ehaz

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 03:58 PM

Gammons just said Hultzens family wants him to go to medical school and he'll get some 20 million dollar inheritance if he becomes a doctor? Does anyone know more about this? (this was on TV)
I'm assuming Gammons is just insane. Either the TV is playing tricks on me or...

Edited by ehaz, 06 June 2011 - 04:01 PM.


#114 IKONOS

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 04:01 PM

Gammons just said Hultzens family wants him to go to medical school and he'll get some 20 million dollar inheritance if he becomes a doctor? Does anyone know more about this? (this was on TV)


Now that is interesting. If it is from his parents, he will get it even if he does not become a doctor.

#115 SoxScout


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Posted 06 June 2011 - 04:06 PM

Is this tweetgrid working? I dont see any tweets once i open it up/ Its been like that for the last hour or so.

Do you have cookies enabled? been working for me. How about this: https://twitter.com/#!/redsoxstats/mlbdraft

tweet grid: http://goo.gl/09bwx

#116 ehaz

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 04:08 PM

Frankie Piliere:
Heard they think they might be get a shot at a falling college arm like Gray or Bradley. Would surprise me though.



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Posted 06 June 2011 - 04:08 PM

Goldstein chat: http://www.baseballp....php?chatId=846

#118 IKONOS

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 04:16 PM

Do you have cookies enabled? been working for me. How about this: https://twitter.com/...xstats/mlbdraft

tweet grid: http://goo.gl/09bwx


The first link worked fine with out any problem. As for the tweetgrid, I had to disable my hosts file that I use to protect from adware. It is working now. Thanks

#119 ehaz

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 04:27 PM

According to one source, Garcia pitched three seasons with Guantanimo, going 12-12, 4.73 over 205 innings. In 46 games (45 starts), he struck out 195 but walked 128. His last season was 2009-10, when he went 5-6, 3.40.

Cubs Cuban shocker. Doesn't really scream "first round".

Edited by ehaz, 06 June 2011 - 04:31 PM.


#120 ehaz

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 04:31 PM

Frankie Piliere:
Buzz: Starling potentially in play for AZ at 7, Swihart potentially as well. I think these are both wildcards, particularly Swihart, had a couple people tell me this



#121 E5 Yaz


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Posted 06 June 2011 - 04:38 PM

But that's just me... catcher is no longer an organizational need with Salty locking up the position for the next 5 years


Which is about the time it takes to develop a catcher in the minors. So a catcher, especially a HS catcher, would seem to make sense

#122 IKONOS

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 04:43 PM

Cubs Cuban shocker. Doesn't really scream "first round".


Kevin Goldstein reports Onelki Garcia is not draft eligible.

Update: Now he reports MLB declares him eligible.

Edited by IKONOS, 06 June 2011 - 04:45 PM.


#123 SoxScout


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Posted 06 June 2011 - 04:46 PM

This is just fantastic. Hilarious.

Kevin_Goldstein: "As a result, the Office of the Commissioner has determined that Garcia is subject to the First-Year Player Draft. "
Mon Jun 06 - 5:42:09 pm

Kevin_Goldstein: "The Office of the Commissioner is . . . unable to declare a player ineligible for the Rule 4 Draft"
Mon Jun 06 - 5:41:46 pm

Kevin_Goldstein: Have repeatedly requested that Dominguez provide documentary evidence supporting claim that Garcia is a legal resident of another country
Mon Jun 06 - 5:41:09 pm

Kevin_Goldstein: "it is our understanding that Garcia established residency and began working out in the United States in February 2011"
Mon Jun 06 - 5:39:42 pm

Kevin_Goldstein: MLB has sent letter saying Gus Dominguez is WRONG, the Office of the Commissioner has determined that Garcia has established residency.
Mon Jun 06 - 5:38:59 pm

Kevin_Goldstein: More Cuban LHP AWESOMENESS: Agent Gus Dominguez has contacted teams to let them know Onelki Garcia is NOT draft eligible.


We understand that Gus Dominguez has contacted Clubs for the purpose of asserting that Onelki Garcia is not eligible for the 2011 First-Year Player Draft, which begins this evening. Consistent with the attached, which Joel Araujo sent to your attention on Saturday, June 4, please be advised that the Office of the Commissioner has determined that Garcia has established residency in the United States and is therefore subject to the 2011 First-Year Player Draft.

Based on the information we have received regarding Garcia’s residency status, it is our understanding that Garcia established residency and began working out in the United States in February 2011. We have repeatedly requested that Gus Dominguez provide us with documentary evidence supporting his claim that Garcia is a legal resident of a country other than the United States, but no such information has been provided to us. The Office of the Commissioner is, of course, unable to declare a player ineligible for the Rule 4 Draft based solely on the bare assertions of his representative that he is not a resident of the United States within the meaning of Major League Rule 4. As a result, the Office of the Commissioner has determined that Garcia is subject to the First-Year Player Draft.

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/chat/chat.php?chatId=846

Edited by SoxScout, 06 June 2011 - 04:47 PM.


#124 TheGoldenGreek33

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 04:47 PM

Off to coach, have fun guys. Phragle, hit me up.

#125 RedOctober3829


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Posted 06 June 2011 - 04:50 PM

OK, sweet potatoes cut for fries and burgers pounded out. Now, draft time baby.

#126 SoxScout


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Posted 06 June 2011 - 04:51 PM

Piliere says Levi Michael is similar to Jed Lowrie on the radio.

#127 RedOctober3829


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Posted 06 June 2011 - 04:53 PM

Piliere says Levi Michael is similar to Jed Lowrie on the radio.

That's a good comparison. Loved his game when I saw him for 4 games this year.

#128 Tyrone Biggums


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Posted 06 June 2011 - 04:58 PM

This is just hilarious. Rumors of the Cubs wanting Starling to fall to them have been around for days. Just as it appears like it actually might happen, it comes out that they want... Speck?


If Starling falls to them, they'll take him. These guys I don't think are THAT DUMB...Then again...

Does anyone have a report on Speck? Does he project as a better end of the game arm?

#129 RedOctober3829


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Posted 06 June 2011 - 05:00 PM

MLBN Preview show begins now.

#130 SoxScout


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Posted 06 June 2011 - 05:02 PM

MLBN Preview show begins now.


Also online: http://mlb.mlb.com/m...aftlive_app.jsp

Hazel Mae is dressed like a prostitute.

Edited by SoxScout, 06 June 2011 - 05:09 PM.


#131 Bigpupp

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 05:08 PM

My prediction for tonight:

Mahtook, an overdraft college starter that pissed me off, Beede, Bell

Edit: and I'm reserving the right to change Mahtook with Nimmo and Bell with Swihart at my convenience.

Edited by Bigpupp, 06 June 2011 - 05:23 PM.


#132 RedOctober3829


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Posted 06 June 2011 - 05:10 PM

Pittsburgh's draft room should just start pounding beers now since their work is already done. Tell Bud they are picking Cole and break out the keg.

#133 Tyrone Biggums


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Posted 06 June 2011 - 05:11 PM

I think Bell goes to Tampa tonight, one thing is for sure...someone is going to drop that is projected in the top 10. This draft is too deep to get an accurate reading on the slots.

#134 ehaz

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 05:14 PM

I'm guessing:

Meyer, Swihart, Maples, your best guess (please Bell)

Edited by ehaz, 06 June 2011 - 05:15 PM.


#135 Rasputin


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Posted 06 June 2011 - 05:16 PM

Also online: http://mlb.mlb.com/m...aftlive_app.jsp

Hazel Mae is dressed like a prostitute.


Well that's good enough for me.

#136 WestCoastFan

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 05:16 PM

Im really glad with how TV is becoming more available on the Internet. Helps for us who don't have TV's in our room!

My draft room is prepped. Beers on ice, meats in the fridge, day off

lets go!

#137 TimScribble

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 05:22 PM

I'd love tonight to be college arm, Bell, Swihart and Beede. But I think that's a lot of money to spend on the first and supp.

Edited by TimScribble, 06 June 2011 - 05:25 PM.


#138 RedOctober3829


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Posted 06 June 2011 - 05:23 PM

Piliere is doing his mock right now

1. Cole
2. Rendon
3. Bauer
4. A. Bradley
5. Bundy
6. Starling
7. Hultzen
8. Jungmann
9. Baez
10. Spangenberg

Edited by RedOctober3829, 06 June 2011 - 05:28 PM.


#139 ehaz

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 05:27 PM

I really want Bradley or Gray. I don't think it'll happen though.

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 05:29 PM

keithlaw
On Onelki Garcia Speck: Just declared draft-eligible by MLB recently (maybe today), but agent disputes this and says he's a free agent.


What a shitshow

#141 ehaz

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 05:32 PM

Frankie Piliere:
6. WAS - Bubba Starling
7. ARI - Hultzen
8. CLE - Jungmann
9. CHC - Baez
10 - SD - Spangenberg

This is larceny. Arizona gets Bauer AND Hultzen. Piliere's not the only one thinking this.

#142 RedOctober3829


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Posted 06 June 2011 - 05:37 PM

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Among last-minute rumors ... Seattle might still take Lindor, Royals might now take Starling, , Orioles on Jed Bradley. Emphasis on rumors.



#143 SoxScout


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Posted 06 June 2011 - 05:40 PM

I hope the M's take Lindor. Churchill had that like 36 hours ago. Would really fuck up a lot of plans, love it.

#144 SoxScout


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Posted 06 June 2011 - 05:41 PM

Holy shit, Gonzalez would pull away from Cron in a footrace.

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Edited by SoxScout, 06 June 2011 - 05:46 PM.


#145 ehaz

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 05:42 PM

Did Gammo just say that Josh Bell won't sign?

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 05:42 PM

11. J. Bradley
12. Lindor
13. Gray
14. Mahtook
15. Guerreri

#147 ehaz

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 05:44 PM

Piliere emphasizing anything could happen, still no consensus.

Edited by ehaz, 06 June 2011 - 05:45 PM.


#148 JohntheBaptist


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Posted 06 June 2011 - 05:44 PM

Did Larry Greene get Hazel's number?

#149 ehaz

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 05:45 PM

15 minutes.

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 05:46 PM

I have a feeling Swihart is going to go before we get to pick at 19.