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2011 MLB Draft Game Thread: Day 1


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#1 phragle


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Posted 05 June 2011 - 02:25 AM

The Sox have 4 picks in the top 40, and are projected to break the spending record. The Sox pick 19th, 26th, 36th and 40th.

40 hours away.

#2 ItOnceWasMyLife

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Posted 05 June 2011 - 12:48 PM

T minus 30 hours.

With the pending changes to the CBA, this might be the last draft to be truly excited about.

#3 TheGoldenGreek33

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Posted 05 June 2011 - 01:32 PM

Unfortunately, I have to coach tomorrow night. Second year in a row I'll miss day one. All the action is on day two, anyway.

Edited by TheGoldenGreek33, 05 June 2011 - 01:46 PM.


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Posted 05 June 2011 - 01:39 PM

June 6, 7 p.m. ET
Round 1, First-Year Player Draft

June 7, noon ET
Rounds 2-30, First-Year Player Draft

June 8, noon ET
Rounds 31-50, First-Year Player Draft

#5 phragle


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Posted 05 June 2011 - 03:49 PM

Scout, are you going to have a twitter board for us?

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Posted 05 June 2011 - 03:58 PM

Scout, are you going to have a twitter board for us?


Fine tuning it it still, I took off Fitt and Rodgers who were talking all about the tourny and not the draft. I'll update throughout tomorrow based on who is talking what and post it a few time as updates come.

You can check it's current version here: http://goo.gl/09bwx

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Posted 05 June 2011 - 10:08 PM

Unfortunately, I have to coach tomorrow night. Second year in a row I'll miss day one. All the action is on day two, anyway.

If you want to PM me your cell number I'll send you the picks when they happen. It is the least I can do.

Fine tuning it it still, I took off Fitt and Rodgers who were talking all about the tourny and not the draft. I'll update throughout tomorrow based on who is talking what and post it a few time as updates come.

You can check it's current version here: http://goo.gl/09bwx

Sounds good.

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 08:08 AM

Gerrit Cole is going #1 overall to the Pirates per Jonathan Mayo who confirmed it.

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 08:12 AM

Gerrit Cole is going #1 overall to the Pirates per Jonathan Mayo who confirmed it.


@MLBDraftMLB Draft@JonathanMayoB3 has confirmed that @Pirates will take @UCLAAthletics righty Gerrit Cole at No. 1:http://atmlb.com/isXdsy #mlbdraft

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 08:13 AM

Gerrit Cole is going #1 overall to the Pirates per Jonathan Mayo who confirmed it.

Rendon has to be second to the Ms

#11 TimScribble

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 08:18 AM

With Cole going 1, Rendon has to be 2 to the Mariners, right?


Edit: What Phrag said.

Adding on, I think the DBacks really want Hultzen. I think they will pop him at 3.

Edited by TimScribble, 06 June 2011 - 08:22 AM.


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Posted 06 June 2011 - 08:21 AM

Will Meyer be the biggest reach in the draft?

I read a column (IIRC) saying to the Nationals or even top 10.

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 08:26 AM

The Piliere chat: http://www.coveritli...ode=cad2e241b5/

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 08:36 AM

The Piliere chat: http://www.coveritli...ode=cad2e241b5/


9:24Comment From Eric Who are the red sox hoping drop to them at number 19?
9:25Frankie Piliere: They seem to be laying back and seeing what's there. I think perfect world they'd like to see one of the top college arms slip to them.


Agree completely.


#15 RoDaddy

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 08:38 AM

Can't wait! It also dictates a bit what games I try to watch for the NCAA tournament (teams with new Sox draftees!)

Edited by RoDaddy, 06 June 2011 - 08:38 AM.


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Posted 06 June 2011 - 09:04 AM

I want 2 of 3: Bell, Nimmo, Swihart

I do not want to touch Hedges. Not a huge fan of Meyer. If we go college player that should be around at #19 I want Susac.

#17 TimScribble

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 09:09 AM

I want 2 of 3: Bell, Nimmo, Swihart

I do not want to touch Hedges. Not a huge fan of Meyer. If we go college player that should be around at #19 I want Susac.


I agree with all of this. If I had my choice of which two of the three, it would be Bell and Swihart.

Edited by TimScribble, 06 June 2011 - 09:10 AM.


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Posted 06 June 2011 - 09:23 AM

I agree with all of this. If I had my choice of which two of the three, it would be Bell and Swihart.

I'd be surprised if they couldn't get Swihart in the supplemental b/c of his big bonus demands.
From recent history, the Sox usually take a high-talent toolsy non-signability concern with their first pick and wait for the uber-talent high-bonus guys until the supplemental. It won't surprise me to see Josh Bell and Blake Swihart with the Sox at the end of the night because of their willingness to open their checkbook...

#19 phragle


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Posted 06 June 2011 - 09:25 AM

Frankie Piliere: Latest Buzz: Take this as you like. Had a source just tell me he was "positive" that San Diego would take Cory Spangenberg at 10. So there you go.






That is more good news than bad news for the Sox.

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 09:31 AM

I'd be surprised if they couldn't get Swihart in the supplemental b/c of his big bonus demands.
From recent history, the Sox usually take a high-talent toolsy non-signability concern with their first pick and wait for the uber-talent high-bonus guys until the supplemental. It won't surprise me to see Josh Bell and Blake Swihart with the Sox at the end of the night because of their willingness to open their checkbook...


That's how it usually works, if people think this is their last chance to be a great team and get great talent.... I could see all of those guys going in the first round. Texas could pay. Toronto could. Tampa could #1 pay or #2 push picks in to next year.

I actually think Swihart is the most likely to go in the first round, and I really wouldn't be shocked to see him go top 15 picks.

#21 Sox Pride

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 09:32 AM

The 19 spot is really tough to pin down, because a lot of different scenarios might play out ahead of them. One of
Jed Bradley, Matt Barnes, Taylor Guerrieri, Alex Meyer (all pitchers) as well as Mike Mahtook could be there for them at 19.
It all depends on how the draft shakes out. Who knows? maybe Bubba Starling falls to 19.

The latest rumor I'm seeing it it will start Cole, Lindor, Bauer - but I'm just repeating rumor and hearsay at this point.
Should be an exciting night.

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 09:36 AM

MyMLBDraft.net has Bradley at 19 and Beede at 26. That would be disappointing if they don't get Bell.

I'm saying it will be Cole, Rendon, Hultzen, Bundy, Bauer in the top 5.

#23 Sox Pride

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 09:40 AM

While it's great that we have 4 of the top 40 in a deep draft. What's sick is that the Rays have TEN of the top 60 picks tonight.

#24 phragle


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Posted 06 June 2011 - 09:42 AM

MyMLBDraft.net has Bradley at 19 and Beede at 26. That would be disappointing if they don't get Bell.


That is a pretty awesome haul to be disappointed in. Bell could fall to 36 too. I wouldn't get my hopes up for bell though.

I'm saying it will be Cole, Rendon, Hultzen, Bundy, Bauer in the top 5.

I think so too. It's the general consensus. Starling next.



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Posted 06 June 2011 - 09:55 AM

I kind of hope Levi Michael drops to 19 as well. He was the best player I saw play all year. Cannon of an arm from SS and can really hit. If the Sox think they can turn him into a 3B, I'd take a chance on him.

#26 Bigpupp

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 09:57 AM

KLaw's new mock has Meyer at 19 and Chris Reed (LHP Stanford) at 26

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 09:58 AM

From Pillare chat on Seattle:

Still think it's Rendon but none of my sources are willing to rule out Lindor or Starling yet.



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Posted 06 June 2011 - 10:06 AM

@gehrig38Curt SchillingMLB Draft incoming, Bundy and Beede are two high school arms that are going to be MLB #1 starters on a fast track.

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 10:08 AM

@gehrig38Curt SchillingMLB Draft incoming, Bundy and Beede are two high school arms that are going to be MLB #1 starters on a fast track.


A kid he knows and one of the best HS arms in a decade. SHOCKING.

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 10:09 AM

A kid he knows and one of the best HS arms in a decade. SHOCKING.

Schilling works out with Beede in suburban Boston. I agree, very surprising he hypes him up.

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 10:10 AM

11:04 Comment From John Any chance Springer falls to Boston at 19?11:04 Frankie Piliere: Doubtful. Floor is 18 to Oakland I think

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 10:11 AM

I kind of hope Levi Michael drops to 19 as well. He was the best player I saw play all year. Cannon of an arm from SS and can really hit. If the Sox think they can turn him into a 3B, I'd take a chance on him.

I think there is a good chance he is there at 19

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 10:12 AM

11:04 Comment From John Any chance Springer falls to Boston at 19?11:04 Frankie Piliere: Doubtful. Floor is 18 to Oakland I think

Ha, that was my question.

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 10:13 AM

Ha, that was my question.


Touche, John

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 10:23 AM

That other one with asking who could drop to 19 was mine haha. SOSH owns Piliere chats

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 10:24 AM

That last question is definitely a SoSHer!

This one:
11:23Comment From Tim How strongly do you feel that Boston takes at least one of Bell or Swihart?
11:24Frankie Piliere: Not strongly but more strongly than for any other clubs. Not trying to be the riddler but yeah I think that makes sense.

Edited by phragle, 06 June 2011 - 10:27 AM.


#37 TimScribble

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 10:27 AM

That last question is definitely a SoSHer!


The Bell/Swihart question to the Sox was mine. We are dominating.

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 10:36 AM

Mayo: Meyer, Swihart

http://mlb.mlb.com/n...raftcentral2011

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 10:37 AM

11:35Comment From Liam: Nimmo, Swihart, Bell, Beede. Which 2 are the likeliest choices for Boston in rd.1?
11:36Frankie Piliere: Nimmo the most likely. Probably followed by Beede if I'm considering that they might get another shot at the other two later on.

Edited by phragle, 06 June 2011 - 10:38 AM.


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Posted 06 June 2011 - 10:40 AM

Nimmo, Swihart, Bell, Beede. Which 2 are the likeliest choices for Boston in rd.1?


Nimmo the most likely. Probably followed by Beede if I'm considering that they might get another shot at the other two later on.



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Posted 06 June 2011 - 11:39 AM

KLaw's new mock has Meyer at 19 and Chris Reed (LHP Stanford) at 26


Awful mock is awful.

Frankie Piliere is the only guy with credible insider information.

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 11:42 AM

I kind of hope Levi Michael drops to 19 as well. He was the best player I saw play all year. Cannon of an arm from SS and can really hit. If the Sox think they can turn him into a 3B, I'd take a chance on him.


Not really interested in taking Jeff Keppinger in the 1st round.

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 11:46 AM

Norris want 3.9, headed to the sup. round?

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 11:46 AM

New BA mock:

19. RED SOX: Other teams believe Boston will take a guy who fits into the slot parameters here, then get aggressive with its next three picks in the first and sandwich rounds. The Red Sox would love for one of the college pitchers to fall to them, and while Barnes, Bradley and Jungmann all look like they're going in the top 10, Gray could last this long. They offered Meyer $2 million out of high school, and he's another possibility. Projected Pick: Sonny Gray.


26. RED SOX: Boston will start spending its money here. The Red Sox are linked to every catcher, and the best in this draft are high schoolers Austin Hedges (California) and Blake Swihart (New Mexico). Their high price tags could make them available in the sandwich round, which could allow Boston take Nimmo or Massachusetts prep righthander Tyler Beede here. They won't come cheap, either. Ross is an option priced closer to slot. Projected Pick: Austin Hedges.


Edited by TheGoldenGreek33, 06 June 2011 - 11:48 AM.


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Posted 06 June 2011 - 11:48 AM

This would make the waiting to 36 interesting:

12:40Posted Image[Comment From Austin Austin: ] What are you hearing the Rangers will do at 33 and 37? Posted ImageMonday June 6, 2011 12:40 Austin

12:40Frankie Piliere: Athletes. Travis Harrison is who I projected in my mock. Sticking with that one. I think they might a team to take a shot at Swihart.

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 11:50 AM

I'd take Sonny Gray if he managed to fall. at worst he should be an electric BP arm.

Austin Hedges, no thanks. If we want an all-defense catcher for whatever reason we can sign a veteran one for a million per season. It would suck to take Hedges, and to take him in stead of Swihart would be brutal.

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 11:50 AM

I have Swihart a tick above Hedges but IMO Swihart's bat is overrated while Hedges' is underrated.

That's in comparison with public opinion and available scouting reports. I would be happy with either.

Lindor at 19 would be a dream come true.

I think he can develop into a more consistent version of Rollins with a bit less speed.

I have Nimmo right there with Bell...2 of the most well-rounded guys in the draft...potential .300/30 HR fellows with above-average defense in RF and some burn on the basepaths.

Meyer in the 1st round would be terrible. You don't touch 2-pitch guys with bad command in the 1st round.

Still love Beede. Funny to see how little hype he's getting b/c he doesn't touch 98, LOL. If you can pitch, you can pitch. He has a solid fastball, great secondary stuff, advanced command, great mechanics, terrific poise, and a prototypical frame.

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 11:51 AM

New BA mock:

Won't happen but nice try Jim.

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 11:58 AM

Won't happen but nice try Jim.


Odds are against any specific choice happening, but BA (and Callis specifically) have the best track record in predicting the first round. I'll try to tally up who is the best this year; perhaps it will change. It is certainly a sss.

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 12:11 PM

1:08Posted Image[Comment From Jonathen Jonathen: ] Who goes highest Bell, Nimmo, or Swihart?

1:08 Jonathen1:08Frankie Piliere: Surprisingly it might be Nimmo at 26 if Bell doesn't go to Boston with their first pick.