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[Zomp]

And thats a red for Cech, and a penalty, if Bale doesn't tap it in. Will be a fun 30 minutes.

[sachmoney]

Spurs get a goal soon after. Should Cech have been given a card for that? If Bale is not there, that's a penalty. That has to be a red card, right?

Edited by sachmoney, 15 April 2012 - 01:16 PM.

[SidelineCameras]

OK, first of all, obligatory hope that Luiz is OK.

But I don't understand why a red card would be canceled out. A penalty is a penalty, and a sending-off is a sending off. It's not like a two minute power-play getting canceled in hockey, playing with 10 men obviously changes the whole game.

[sachmoney]

Here's the Mata "goal" for those who missed it. Probably will taken down, but:


That Ramires goal should be the game.

EDIT: Lampard. Wow.

Edited by sachmoney, 15 April 2012 - 01:40 PM.

[eddiew112]

Amazing how Spurs supposedly world class players are fucking invisible in every big game

Edit: Shameful ending. Fucking Harry switches to 4-4-2 in the last twenty and we get completely overrun yet again. If only the rest of the players cared like Parker did

Edited by eddiew112, 15 April 2012 - 02:05 PM.

[teejay1324]

We need a new thread title. Actually, to hell with it, start next season's thread.

[Tangled Up In Red]

Truly fourth place or bust at this point
http://soccernet.esp...r-spurs?cc=5901

[teejay1324]

I've really enjoyed Parker this season. And he's absolutely right, no Champions League and the season is a disappointment. I'd say it's already a bit disappointing with getting bounced early on in both the Europa and League Cup, probably no guaranteed CL spot, and yesterday's complete disaster leaves them trophy-less this season with a squad that was certainly good enough to win something. I didn't care about the Europa at the time, to be clear, but they had a relative FA Cup cakewalk until yesterday and it's too bad they couldn't take advantage of it.

[teejay1324]

You would think being a fan of the world's best club for 180 minutes over the course of eight days would be fun, but not so far, fucking Chelsea somehow has a 1-0 lead heading into next week's match at the Camp Nou. Good game, Barca had a few great chances and Chelsea just sat behind the ball the entire time looking to counter, Messi didn't have his best game either, Chelsea can utterly and totally dick Spurs this season if they win the CL.

[teejay1324]

This week just keeps getting dumber and dumber. Now, after wanting Chelsea to lose last Sunday(and they didn't) and lose on Wednesday(they didn't) it would actually be in Spurs best interest for Chelsea to WIN against Arsenal if that game doesn't end in a draw, which would be preferable. If our London base buddies draw, Spurs will be an entire one point ahead of Chelsea with the QPR game in hand for two hours and six back of Arsenal but with two games in hand. A Chelsea win would mean that Spurs could pull one point ahead of Arsenal if they won their two matches in hand.

I can't fucking believe I'll actually be happy to see Chelsea win this Saturday, which of course means they will lose and lose badly and Tottenham is going to be stuck battling Newcastle for fourth and praying that Barcelona can break into the bus that Chelsea is going to park at the Nou Camp next Tuesday.Of course, then the mighty Spurs have to actually win a match Saturday too...I'm going to throw up.

Edited by teejay1324, 19 April 2012 - 10:05 PM.

[teddykgb]

Honestly that Chelsea result versus barca was a fluke. Barca will score 4 at home if they repeat that gameplan, they had so many incredible chances

[Tangled Up In Red]

Agree with TeeJay, Chelsea has to defeat Arsenal.
Agree with TKGB. Barca wins handily at home (though tough against a packed in Blues)

[URI]

Considering Spurs have picked up like 3 points in the last 234 games, I'm not real worried about what Chelsea's doing.

[EdinburghSox]

Spurs seem to have completely run out of steam, despite being a great manager I think Redknapp's problem is that he just doesn't rotate his players enough although to be fair to him he probably needs a few top class additions to his squad to allow him to do that.

Compared to Man U and Fergie who rotates his team throughout the season and only when it comes to the business end of the season he starts to stick to his first choice 11 who thanks to the early season rotation are comparatively fresh.

[eddiew112]

Just when it looked like it couldn't get worse, it has. I am trying to stay positive but that first half was fucking awful

[Tangled Up In Red]

Was an uninspired, shit performance. Even Parker looked to be mailing it in.
Holding out hope... but not with the team playing as they have for the last 3 months.

[Apisith]

Rumours that Adebayor is now refusing to play after having a bust-up with 'Arry.

[URI]

Was an uninspired, shit performance. Even Parker looked to be mailing it in.
Holding out hope... but not with the team playing as they have for the last 3 months.

I don't think he's mailing it in...I think he's exhausted. There is so little depth on the team that I'm pretty shocked right now that Luka, Bale, and Parker aren't puking on the field.

2012 has been a disaster for Spurs, and I think the biggest reasons why are 'Arry's inability to rotated fresh bodies on the field, and the England job looming. The January window was really a bad spell for this team.

[Apisith]

More trouble brewing

[URI]

How? A message board poster said Daniel Levy rejected a resignation?

I just got a text that said that I have a rotating bandsaw instead of my left hand.

[teejay1324]

You would have thought we could count on the best team in the world to beat Chelsea over 180 minutes, Chelsea being six in the Prem and all and Barca being really, really, good at football. But no. Now it's possible for Spurs to finish fourth and still miss Champions League, I've given up hope of them doing so but now it might not matter anyways.

Is there anybody at this point who wouldn't want to see Brendon Rogers from Swansea coaching Spurs next season? I think him or Roberto Martinez from Wigan could do well here. They've done reasonably well in the Prem with small budgets, maybe one of them could do the same, on a bigger scale, at Tottenham?

Edited by teejay1324, 24 April 2012 - 08:14 PM.

[URI]

You would have thought we could count on the best team in the world to beat Chelsea over 180 minutes, Chelsea being six in the Prem and all and Barca being really, really, good at football. But no. Now it's possible for Spurs to finish fourth and still miss Champions League, I've given up hope of them doing so but now it might not matter anyways.

Is there anybody at this point who wouldn't want to see Brendon Rogers from Swansea coaching Spurs next season? I think him or Roberto Martinez from Wigan could do well here. They've done reasonably well in the Prem with small budgets, maybe one of them could do the same, on a bigger scale, at Tottenham?

Chim chiminy chim chminy
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[teejay1324]

Chim chiminy chim chminy
chim chim cheroo

That the new thread title?

[URI]

I haven't had much luck with them this season, so no

[teejay1324]

Step one to save the season...get some help from a club capable of actually winning matches and hope Wigan's battle to stay up leads them to a win over Newcastle...

Also, Corluka evidently doesn't like how Harry has rotated the squad this year...
http://soccernet.esp...players?cc=5901

And, BAE is done for the season...

Personally, I think this is a perfect excuse to put Bale at LB for the last four matches, not Danny Rose, and slide Modric to LM and put either Livermore or Sandro (or maybe actually use dos Santos) in the middle with Parker. That, should, keep Bale out wide more often, where I think he's best utilized and Modric can come inside from the left and leave the left flank open for Bale to run into...This can work, right? Yes? Please?

[URI]

My only concern is that Bale, who is almost completely disinterested in defense anyway, picks up a bad injury doing something he hates, and isn't that good at anyway. And then leaves for Barca.

I'd rather push Rose, or use the 4-5-1 they should be using anyway with Bale, Parker, Sandro, Modric, and VDV in the mid, and Ade up top.

This January was a complete disaster.

[teejay1324]

Yea, that's a good point, about Bale. I'd like to see Lennon in that midfield too, push VDV into the free role in the middle that he's going to play no matter where he's fielded anyways.

[Dernells Casket n Flagon]

Wigan certainly doing their part to help out the Spurs very early against Newcastle.

[Zomp]

Where did *that* come from?

[URI]

November?

Oddly, due entirely to recent form, I was terrified until the final whistle. It was like watching an 03 Red Sox playoff game for me.

Also, Kyle Walker's goal was just beautiful. I mean, I can't come up with words to describe how awesome it was. And how erect it made me.

[teejay1324]

That was fun to watch, thought Sandro was outstanding, nearly scored too, but he seemed to be making tackles all over. Anyone else think he left Lennon in for too long after he picked up that knock? Be very interesting to see who starts on Wednesday with Harry take some flack for squad rotation, maybe Dos Santos will get a start either for Lennon out wide or VDV in behind a striker?

And after all this shit for two months, now Harry isn't leaving. Amazing. Three to play, a game in hand against Arsenal, if those douchebags slip up in one of their two matches and Spurs win out they can still, somehow, grab third.

[eddiew112]

If they can't win out they don't deserve Champions League football, simple as that.

I thought Dos Santos looked bright in his very limited minutes on Sunday...wouldn't mind seeing him get the start. I also liked Rose at LB, even though he wasn't tested at all defensively. Bale's head continues to be up his ass, but Modric played much, much better (especially in the first half) than he has for a long time. Sandro's performance was fantastic: combining Parker's work rate with his own superior athleticism and talent. He should be a force for this team for years to come

[teejay1324]

Harry suggested today that maybe the whole England job thingy was a distraction. And also mentioned he may have felt the need to use his top players more often because guys like Huddlestone and Dawson have been hurt. Fair point, still makes loaning out Pienaar seem silly.
http://www.guardian....gland-tottenham

Harry told Sky that Dos Santos is probably gone in the summer and was almost gone last summer. I don't get it, why keep him around and never play him? Especially when he looks decent in the flashes of play he's gotten. Also contradicts Harry saying he didn't have depth on the bench when he never really bothered to see if Dos Santos could be an option to start and squad rotate.
http://www1.skysport...-for-Spurs-exit

[URI]

Bale's head continues to be up his ass,

This isn't true. Bale was probably the weakest attacking player on Sunday, but he hasn't been playing with his head up his ass. He's never played this many minutes in a season before. He's exhausted. You're seeing it with Parker too.

Saying he's playing with his head up his ass is like saying that Walker had a shit year because he only scored twice.

[eddiew112]

This isn't true. Bale was probably the weakest attacking player on Sunday, but he hasn't been playing with his head up his ass. He's never played this many minutes in a season before. He's exhausted. You're seeing it with Parker too.

Saying he's playing with his head up his ass is like saying that Walker had a shit year because he only scored twice.

Except for, you know, last year when he played 42 games. His play has dropped off significantly since January. Exhaustion makes sense for Parker because hes on the wrong side of 30 and is not an amazing athlete to begin with. That seems to be a pretty weak excuse for Bale

[URI]

Minutes, not games. And he wore down last year too. To the point when he won the PFA, the joke was that everyone voted by January.

And in case you missed it, Bale has played more later...we didn't have the CL games, but he played in more FA cup games and in more league games so far. This stuff is cumulative.

But kill your best players, it's the most becoming aspect of being a fan.

[eddiew112]

I still have no idea what your talking about. Last year, other than the game in which he got hurt and his first couple games back off the bench, Bale went the full 90 almost every game.

And how exactly am I killing him? By expecting consistent play?

[URI]

I still have no idea what your talking about. Last year, other than the game in which he got hurt and his first couple games back off the bench, Bale went the full 90 almost every game.

And how exactly am I killing him? By expecting consistent play?

By expecting him to be this hard guy that goes the full 90 every game, rather than the one that breaks down over the last half of the season while being ridden hard.

This year is very similar to last year. Consistent, if you will.

[URI]

And in all compititions (including appearances with Wales), Gareth Bale has played 3944 minutes this season

Last year, he played 3691.

In 2012, he's played 1776 minutes. From Jan 1 until the end of the Premiership in 2011, he played 944.

Check it out on his ESPN player page.

He's exhausted.

[teejay1324]

So are we even supposed to be happy now that Harry is staying? He's not much of a tactical guy and he appears to run his best players into the ground. He may still deliver a second season in three of Champions League football, but would him leaving for the England job maybe have been a blessing in disguise? Depends on his replacement of course and it probably doesn't matter now. Or will we see him rotate the squad more next year if they make the CL and add depth to the squad to get ready for all the extra fixtures?

[eddiew112]

Sorry, I forgot about the additional games Bale played for Wales this year.

His problem isn't that his effort has dropped, but that his forays infield clog up the middle and leave us with no width. The QPR game was a perfect example. After the first half he was drifting further and further infield to receive the ball and that made them very easy to defend, even when QPR went down a man.

I can't say I am happy that Harry is staying. I am at a loss for who could take his place, though.

[Titans Bastard]

Harry told Sky that Dos Santos is probably gone in the summer and was almost gone last summer. I don't get it, why keep him around and never play him? Especially when he looks decent in the flashes of play he's gotten. Also contradicts Harry saying he didn't have depth on the bench when he never really bothered to see if Dos Santos could be an option to start and squad rotate.
http://www1.skysport...-for-Spurs-exit

Dos Santos has the talent to play for a fairly big club, but he's lazy and has a poor work ethic.

[teejay1324]

Eddie,

I agree about Bale's positioning, I'm sure the minutes he's played is a cause as well, but he's really gotten away from anything resembling a wide position and it seems like Harry is going to let him do whatever he wants on offense like he does with VDV.

And Brendon Rogers or Roberto Martinez, for me.

[URI]

So are we even supposed to be happy now that Harry is staying? He's not much of a tactical guy and he appears to run his best players into the ground. He may still deliver a second season in three of Champions League football, but would him leaving for the England job maybe have been a blessing in disguise? Depends on his replacement of course and it probably doesn't matter now. Or will we see him rotate the squad more next year if they make the CL and add depth to the squad to get ready for all the extra fixtures?

These last three games will obviously decide Harry's fate.

If they don't hold off Newcastle and Chelsea, then he's got to go.

If they finished 4th and Chelsea wins....show him the table week by week with Spurs in 3rd for most of the season and you get rid of him.

If they qualify for the Champions League, you give him more depth (like, don't loan out Pineaar without an adequate replacement) and try like hell to hold on to Bale, Luka, and either Ade, or get a NewAde.

[eddiew112]

I know Martinez is a hot name right now because of Wigan's form but Steve Bruce did a much better job at Wigan while he was there. I think Rodgers has the clear advantage over him

[teejay1324]

I know Martinez is a hot name right now because of Wigan's form but Steve Bruce did a much better job at Wigan while he was there. I think Rodgers has the clear advantage over him

I like both managers because of how their clubs or at least how they try to get their clubs to play attacking football. Swansea has been a blast to watch this year and Wigan had the balls to switch to a 3-4-3, which is rare in England, even while facing relegation and it looks to have paid off. And both of Martinez and Rogers have done well finding the right players on tight budgets and they would be doing the same at Tottenham. Not exactly the same, of course, Spurs have much more financial clout than Wigan and Swansea but they're still behind top class teams from around Europe and several EPL clubs as well. Martinez seems to instill an us against them mentality(so it seems anyways) and maybe that's what Tottenham needs leading them.

Plus, I'd prefer to finish like Wigan does every year than how Spurs have finished the last two. But it probably doesn't matter now, URI is probably dead on about the Harry situation.

[bsj]

PLEASE BEAT BOLTON!!!

[URI]

You know I was rooting for Spurs before you wrote that....

[URI]

Exhales....

The following are very handsome men indeed:
Luka Modric
Rafael van der Vaart
Emmanuel Adebayor
Brad Friedel

[URI]

Ade is twice as good looking.

As of now, we're -1 goal on Arsenal, +1 on Chelsea, and Newcastle can't catch up realistically on GD. Pour it on.