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[Dave Stapleton]

Hopefully Shaq retires and the 6 million can be off the books.

This seems very likely.

[CR67dream]

Stop responding to genoa please. I have taken away his ability to respond for the evening.

Thank you. You beat me to the punch by a post.

[shawnrbu]

Hopefully Shaq retires and the 6 million can be off the books.

That's Jermaine. Shaq is the vet minimum.

[DeJesus Built My Hotrod]

We did not deserve to shoot anywhere near the amount of free throws the Heat did.

C'mon. Wade and LeBron were attacking the rim 75% of the time. We couldn't stop them from splitting double teams or turning the corner. They should shoot alot more FT's.

The Celtics mindless turnovers, inability to contain James/Wade, Pierce's awful shot to close regulation in Game 4, on and on. We are lucky to have even given them this much of a series. We played awful and look really old.

They attacked because they were getting calls. The C's didn't stop them because they have only a finite number of fouls to give.

On the other hand, the C's seemed to get very few calls when they attacked the rim. I am not complaining mind you...anyone who watches the NBA knows this is standard operating procedure.

[ifmanis5]

Doc really sounded like he wants more. Almost defiant.

[Mystic Merlin]

I think Shaq played for the vet minimum.

[weeba]

Wasn't it 48?

I just did the math in my head, so you could be right.

1, 32, 18 -- 14
2, 36, 22 -- 14
3, 17, 19 -- -2
4, 28, 29 -- -1
5, 38, 20 -- 18

I think I get 43 still. I'm too angry to grab a calculator

[bball831]

Hopefully Shaq retires and the 6 million can be off the books.

He makes the vet minimum.

[Ahriman]

I love Doc.

[allaboutthesox]

Hopefully Shaq retires and the 6 million can be off the books.

Make that both O'Neals. At any rate, how much money do the C's have coming off the books in this offseason?

[weeba]

Wow. Really surprised he was so definitive.

Losing this way can make someone determined to right it, it seems.

[CR67dream]

I just did the math in my head, so you could be right.

1, 32, 18 -- 14
2, 36, 22 -- 14
3, 17, 19 -- -2
4, 28, 29 -- -1
5, 38, 20 -- 18

I think I get 43 still. I'm too angry to grab a calculator

That's 49.

[Captaincoop]

Doc: Leaning heavily to coming back

I'd be fine with him not coming back. Especially with Jeff Van Gundy as the rumored replacement.

Of course, I'd also be fine with 75% of the roster not coming back.

[bball831]

Lebron took 20 shots today. 7 of them 3s. I'm going to go out on a limb and say the other 13 attempts weren't all on drives. It's not like drove 75% of the time.

[smastroyin]

I wish Doc had said "you may notice we went down fighting, and we didn't pull a bunch of chicken shit moves because we were mad that we lost."

[LukefromNH]

I'm completely finished with the NBA. This game was a traveshamockery.

I'm in the same boat here. I love basketball and the C's but I just cant take anymore of the ballwashing that the LBJ's and Wades of the world get by the announcers and more importantly the refs.

[Jed Zeppelin]

If you go through my posting history you will see how much I can't stand Noah's face and lack of any discernible offensive skills, but I hope he and Boozer beat the fuck out of Bosh.

[Hee-Seop's Fable]

Nothing but class from Doc. Just love having Doc and Tito run my favorite teams.

[ElcaballitoMVP]

I can't talk rationally about this right now. So fucking pissed off at everything right now. I can accept losing to these guys, but I can't accept the level of incompetence shown by the officiating this series. It's a fucking embarrassment to the sport. Figure it the fuck out Stern.

[weeba]

They attacked because they were getting calls. The C's didn't stop them because they have only a finite number of fouls to give.

On the other hand, the C's seemed to get very few calls when they attacked the rim. I am not complaining mind you...anyone who watches the NBA knows this is standard operating procedure.

It's standard procedure for the home team. The Celts were only +3 on FTA at home over 2 games.

[lars10]

I just did the math in my head, so you could be right.

1, 32, 18 -- 14
2, 36, 22 -- 14
3, 17, 19 -- -2
4, 28, 29 -- -1
5, 38, 20 -- 18

I think I get 43 still. I'm too angry to grab a calculator

i believe that adds up to 49

[BucketOBalls]

Doc: 'I'm leaning heavily toward coming back.'

'I'm a Celtic, and I love our guys. I want to win again here. I'm competitive as hell, and we have a competitive group.'

I love Doc and would be glad to have him back....but the window is SHUT. Ainge needs to realize that. They are old and unatheltic. They need a top 5 player to consistnetly compete again. Don't see how they can get that.

I'm sorry. Sort of some total rape of a trade that we would get laughed at for suggesting, you can't fix this.

[patinorange]

Doc: Leaning heavily to coming back

LA radio talk shows were talking up Doc as the next Laker coach, a perfect fit.

[Hee-Seop's Fable]

I wish Doc had said "you may notice we went down fighting, and we didn't pull a bunch of chicken shit moves because we were mad that we lost."

He didn't have to. It was implicit in every word he said.

[weeba]

That's 49.

Games 3 and 4 was Celts +3
Games 1, 2 and 5 was Heat +46

[bball831]

The FT attempts don't even show the ridiculous traveling calls on Baby and Pierce, the out of bounds on Bosh. That's a direct result of 5 points being taken off the board, possibly 7.

[Boston Brawler]

That's 49.

The 2 and 1 are Celtics advantages. 43 is correct if those numbers are correct.

[weeba]

i believe that adds up to 49

There is an extra - on games 3 and 4, to indicate a Celtics lead in FTA

[TripleOT]

If the day before the trade deadline, someone told me these two teams would meet in the playoffs and the Heat centers would have been than the Cs' I would have laughed in his face.

[Mystic Merlin]

God knows what happens with the CBA and cap, but I think this team can be right back in the thick of things by tweaking the roster around Rondo/PP/Ray/KG/Green.

[weeba]

Net net, the Heat had more FTA

[DeJesus Built My Hotrod]

It's standard procedure for the home team. The Celts were only +3 on FTA at home over 2 games.

It is until it isn't. From a money perspective the Heat in the finals is far more marketable for the NBA than Boston. Its really not hard to understand what is going on here.

[allaboutthesox]

It appears the C's have $72 million spent in salaries next year. Kristic, Davis, West, Murphy, Wafer, and Arroyo will be coming off the books. Jeff Green will need a qualifying offer extended to him as well. Next year should be interesting to see how Ainge will build this team going forward.

[Three10toLeft]

Joke's on Doc:

The league will be in lockout mode next year.


Quite honestly, I would like to begin the rebuilding process. If Doc walks, it would seem like it'd be more likely that KG would retire. Add some pieces next year but don't try too hard. Get a decent draft pick, allow Ray to come off the books and then see where the lay of the land is before the start of the 12-13 campaign.

Edited by Three10toLeft, 11 May 2011 - 09:04 PM.

[knucklecup]

Miami -7, two points higher than the line in games one and two.

Not looking good.

WHAT THE FUCK! THE KG, PIERCE AND RAY ERA CANNOT END WITH A DOUBLE DIGIT ROUT! SHOW SOME FUCKING HEART! BE PRIDEFUL! BEAT THESE BITCHES!

- The non-calls down the stretch while driving to the hoop were absurd.
- Credit where it's due though: Lebron made two incredibly tough shots - nothing you can do about those two threes.
- Two critical turnovers late.

The only sport I'm consistently good at betting is the NBA because it's predictable. Though that's not to credit myself, because in reality, I'm fading my initial feeling going into the play.

The ending to that game was repulsive.

I'm devastated.

[lars10]

The FT attempts don't even show the ridiculous traveling calls on Baby and Pierce, the out of bounds on Bosh. That's a direct result of 5 points being taken off the board, possibly 7.

or all of the miscalled flagrant fouls.. don't even know how many points of a swing that would have been over the course of the series.

[BigSoxFan]

We did not deserve to shoot anywhere near the amount of free throws the Heat did.

C'mon. Wade and LeBron were attacking the rim 75% of the time. We couldn't stop them from splitting double teams or turning the corner. They should shoot alot more FT's.

The Celtics mindless turnovers, inability to contain James/Wade, Pierce's awful shot to close regulation in Game 4, on and on. We are lucky to have even given them this much of a series. We played awful and look really old.

We've been over this a million times. You're much more inclined to attack the rim when you know you'll get the calls.

[CR67dream]

Games 3 and 4 was Celts +3
Games 1, 2 and 5 was Heat +46

Got it- I guess home cookin' only happens in South Beach. Even more pathetic drawn out that way....

[Ed Hillel]

In the two home games, the C's had a +1.5 FTA/game and in the 3 heat home games they had a + 16 FTA/game.

Age was obviously a big factor, too, as the Celtics died the last 5 minutes of almost every game, but don't even pretend to argue that the FT disparity wasn't a huge part as well.

[Mystic Merlin]

If you drive and don't get calls, you'll probably not make the layups (since you're being hacked to shit, that's the whole point of fouls), so why bother? They tried to force the issue late; it didn't work.

[bball831]

Celtics should rest Pierce, Allen and KG to start the season. They should play maybe 50 regular season games each. Be the fucking 8th seed it doesn't matter. Just be healthy and rested for the playoffs.

[DeJesus Built My Hotrod]

or all of the miscalled flagrant fouls.. don't even know how many points of a swing that would have been over the course of the series.

Missed or miscalled flagrant fouls? Does Juwan Howard have to choke a bitch?

[RedOctober3829]

Games 3 and 4 was Celts +3
Games 1, 2 and 5 was Heat +46

Holy shit. What a travesty.

[ifmanis5]

God knows what happens with the CBA and cap, but I think this team can be right back in the thick of things by tweaking the roster around Rondo/PP/Ray/KG/Green.

Pretty much.

Really need an athletic big and a scorer off the bench. And some luck in the health dept.

[allaboutthesox]

I can't talk rationally about this right now. So fucking pissed off at everything right now. I can accept losing to these guys, but I can't accept the level of incompetence shown by the officiating this series. It's a fucking embarrassment to the sport. Figure it the fuck out Stern.

It's not going to happen. I knew when the C's didn't get a technical or at least a clear path foul in game 4 that something was up. I try to stay out of the "blaming the refs" thing, but it is to damn hard not to based on this series. It wasn't just the fouls, it was the obvious calls that got missed and were called the other way. It is just disgusting and I keep telling myself I will stop watching, but I don't because I love the Celtics.

I just can't stand the state of officiating in the league right now. The calls almost seemed as staged as "THE DECISION".

[Ed Hillel]

Did anyone notice Wade try to chuck the ball as hard as he could off Delonte with 1 second left btw?

[Hendu's Gait]

It is until it isn't. From a money perspective the Heat in the finals is far more marketable for the NBA than Boston. Its really not hard to understand what is going on here.

Dildo sales with the NBA logo?

What's the rationale? Not necessarily saying it's not true, but I don't think it's obvious if it is.

[Sheets]

Doc leaning towards coming back. Great news, I figured he was done.

[TripleOT]

Got it- I guess home cookin' only happens in South Beach the fringe of Downtown Miami, where homeless people line the sidewalks at night sleeping on cardboard boxes. Even more pathetic drawn out that way....

Fixed

That arena is not in South Beach.

[mikeot]

Pretty much.

Really need an athletic big and a scorer off the bench. And some luck in the health dept.

Wonder what it would take to get Dwight Howard?