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[BucketOBalls]

If there's basketball next season I hope Danny isn't afraid to pull the trigger on the right deals to keep this team relevant.

It's impossible to keep this team relevant. They need 2-3 new elite players. Not possible.

[allaboutthesox]

It would have been nice if JO could have brought a little more to the table tonight. It is going to be interesting to see how this team responds in game 5. I will be looking forward to it. This team has nothing to lose right now and hopefully will play with a little more intensity all game long.

[Jed Zeppelin]

It's impossible to keep this team relevant. They need 2-3 new elite players. Not possible.

Dwight Howard or bust.

[bball831]

We're giving him flak - KG was bad tonight.

But he sort of has a lot more capital than Bosh, so he isn't gonna get the same kind of shit.

No doubt about that. But an average offensive performance from KG wins this game.

[triniSox]

Lesson for next time - when you have the ball at the end of regulation, with a tie game, don't dribble around killing the clock and then launch an off-balance jump shot. Drive to the damn hoop and give yourself a chance to win. OT was a death sentence.

This. You've got to drive with about 5 seconds left and if the double comes, kick out. Pierce had legs tonight and when he went strong to the hoop, either he got a good look at the rim, got fouled or had someone open to kick to. Just poor execution on the most important game of the Celtics season.

[BigSoxFan]

No doubt about that. But an average offensive performance from KG wins this game.

...and a healthy Rondo.

[BucketOBalls]

Dwight Howard or bust.

Howard and Rondo is basically Orlando now. I'm not even sure it's possible to get Howard, but they would need 1 more also. I'm not even sure Rondo, Howard and CP3 as SG would do it(and that's probably not possible anyway).

[Bob Montgomery's Helmet Hat]

Big Baby has been completely terrible, but I really think it's his knees that have caused this. Even Baby never gained weight like this during the season.

How do bad knees cause him to gain weight? It would seem just the opposite--the extra weight fucked up his knees.

[The Belly Itcher]

Big Baby has been completely terrible, but I really think it's his knees that have caused this. Even Baby never gained weight like this during the season.

Hmm, and I wonder why his knees have been taking a beating.

[Hee-Seop's Fable]

Hired a nutritionist?

He plays on a professional sports franchise. He has all of that stuff, plus countless other health perks, at his disposal.

There's no excuses.

He doesn't have a clue how to eat properly to perform for the game he's paid to play. He thinks lots of carbs gives him energy for a tough game. High protein pregame is what keeps blood sugar up pregame. If the glycogen isn't there by your pregame meal, you're already fucked, and the excess carbs are just piling on fat. He needs someone to teach him the physiology of nutrition. He's a dolt when it comes to fueling himself. And essentially he's cost the Celtics the 2011 part of their championship window.

There are other culprits as well, of course.

[mikeford]

Dwight Howard or bust.

LOL, yeah right.

[allaboutthesox]

Dwight Howard or bust.

Would you eat a log of it to make that happen?

Seriously, the Celtics are still in it until we are eliminated and until then there is no sense in worry about what next year will bring. The "Big Three" has had a very good run and when it all began 4 years ago we all knew what we were getting and were grateful for it.

[radsoxfan]

It would have been nice if JO could have brought a little more to the table tonight. It is going to be interesting to see how this team responds in game 5. I will be looking forward to it. This team has nothing to lose right now and hopefully will play with a little more intensity all game long.

Ehh, I thought he was fine. 8 points, 4 rebs, solid rotations on D. Wasn't a huge factor, but about what you can expect from him

[TripleOT]

1-10 shooting for KG. I love the guy, but after Game 7 in last year's Finals and this stinker of an offensive performance, I have to wonder if the guy didn't cost the Celtics two banners. I turly believed that if the Cs won this game tonight, they would win the title.

There's plenty of blame to go around. How does a bench that plays 67 total minutes get only ONE defensive rebound?

BBD allowing himself to become a fat cow makes me ill.

[FelixMantilla]

This. You've got to drive with about 5 seconds left and if the double comes, kick out. Pierce had legs tonight and when he went strong to the hoop, either he got a good look at the rim, got fouled or had someone open to kick to. Just poor execution on the most important game of the Celtics season.

A lot of truth here. That possession was completely wasted.

[bball831]

Missed what 5 shots by quarter of an inch?

I think if we won this game, it was finished in 6.

[Bob Montgomery's Helmet Hat]

If the Celts don't come back--and I won't write them off until they're eliminated--I'm rooting for an Atlanta-Memphis final. Because fuck you, NBA.

[The Social Chair]

No young superstars are coming to Boston. Time to build up some assets in the draft (or through trading rondo, kg, or allen) and then deal them for some veterans in a few years.

[bball831]

1-10 shooting for KG. I love the guy, but after Game 7 in last year's Finals and this stinker of an offensive performance, I have to wonder if the guy didn't cost the Celtics two banners. I turly believed that if the Cs won this game tonight, they would win the title.

There's plenty of blame to go around. How does a bench that plays 67 total minutes get only ONE defensive rebound?

BBD allowing himself to become a fat cow makes me ill.

If KG's knee didn't betray him in '09 we're looking at a 4 peat right now. I truly believe that.

[Ed Hillel]

How do bad knees cause him to gain weight? It would seem just the opposite--the extra weight fucked up his knees.

Bad knees = can't run around as much and can't stay in shape.

Baby actually lost weight in the first half of the year, I just find it hard to believe that he suddenly got so lazy as to gain a good maybe 20 pounds. He also messed up his knee earlier this year. I think he's got lingering issues.

[Mystic Merlin]

Bad knees = can't run around as much and can't stay in shape.

Baby actually lost weight in the first half of the year, I just find it hard to believe that he suddenly got so lazy as to gain a good maybe 20 pounds. He also messed up his knee earlier this year. I think he's got lingering issues.

That's hard to believe? Really? You've been following Glen Davis for four years. This should surprise no one.

[Ed Hillel]

Dwight Howard or bust.

Thank God the Heat wasted all that money on Bosh.

Could you imagine?

[BucketOBalls]

If KG's knee didn't betray him in '09 we're looking at a 4 peat right now. I truly believe that.

Dunno about that. But I think they could have gone back 2 back at least. They were really 2 old the next year. This year they were just reaching. To bad it didn't work.

[TripleOT]

If KG's knee didn't betray him in '09 we're looking at a 4 peat right now. I truly believe that.

I totally agree. And if this game was scheduled for Tuesday night, we win it for sure. KG just didn't have any legs tonight to finish off his shots.

Why can't one of these dickweeds like LeBron go up for an alley oop in a meaningless regular season game in Utah and screw up the rest of his career?

[The_Powa_of_Seiji_Ozawa]

Dwight Howard or bust.

With or without his elbows? Howard without his elbows is Eddy Curry.

[Ed Hillel]

That's hard to believe? Really? You've been following Glen Davis for four years. This should surprise no one.

Yeah, I do. He's never gained this much weight during a season before. I guess you can argue he just got lazy, but he was so motivated the first half I just don't buy it.

And he has documented knee issues.

Edited by Ed Hillel, 09 May 2011 - 09:15 PM.

[Bob Montgomery's Helmet Hat]

Bad knees = can't run around as much and can't stay in shape.

Baby actually lost weight in the first half of the year, I just find it hard to believe that he suddenly got so lazy as to gain a good maybe 20 pounds. He also messed up his knee earlier this year. I think he's got lingering issues.

I don't know. The dude has an eating problem.

[Jed Zeppelin]

With or without his elbows? Howard without his elbows is Eddy Curry.

I'm not sure what this means but Dwight Howard is slightly better than Eddy Curry.

[The_Powa_of_Seiji_Ozawa]

Dwight Howard or bust.

Ainge will land Greg Oden this off-season.

[Mystic Merlin]

Yeah, I do. He's never gained this much weight during a season before. I guess you can argue he just got lazy, but he was so motivated the first half I just don't buy it.

Why would they hide it, when he's getting heaped with abuse for months on end?

EDIT - I'll lay big odds the dude just eats.

Edited by Mystic Merlin, 09 May 2011 - 09:15 PM.

[JakeRae]

I knew Perkins talk would sneak in here at some point.... thought it would be in reference to this year though.

Perk wasnt winning us a title last year, and he wouldnt have this year

Agreed. But, he might've been the player who broke Wade...

[The Belly Itcher]

Howard will probably go to LA or, at the very least, stay in a warm climate.

But man, would he benefit playing with Rondo.

Edited by The Belly Itcher, 09 May 2011 - 09:16 PM.

[radsoxfan]

Bad knees = can't run around as much and can't stay in shape.

Baby actually lost weight in the first half of the year, I just find it hard to believe that he suddenly got so lazy as to gain a good maybe 20 pounds. He also messed up his knee earlier this year. I think he's got lingering issues.

Pure speculation, but I wouldnt be surprised if he's drinking. He seems sorta depressed, hasnt been hustling, and has been gaining a ton of weight. Plus he has had alcohol issues in the past. He is positively Vin Baker-esue out there

[TripleOT]

Thank God the Heat wasted all that money on Bosh.

Could you imagine?

Miami wouldn't do this, but if they offered Wade and Bosh for D Ho, Nelson and filler, could Orlando really pass tht up?

[Ed Hillel]

Why would they hide it, when he's getting heaped with abuse for months on end?

EDIT - I'll lay big odds the dude just eats.

I don't know. Maybe you're right, I just don't want to hate him that much.

[Jed Zeppelin]

Ainge will land Greg Oden this off-season.

Now this I agree with.

[Bob Montgomery's Helmet Hat]

Ainge will land Greg Oden this off-season.

I'd take a chance on Greg Oden in a fucking heartbeat

[scottyno]

Howard and Rondo is basically Orlando now. I'm not even sure it's possible to get Howard, but they would need 1 more also. I'm not even sure Rondo, Howard and CP3 as SG would do it(and that's probably not possible anyway).

pierce right now is far better than anyone the magic have that plays the 2 or 3

edit: i know we're talking a couple years down the road, but pierce is the only 1 of the big 3 that we know almost certainly isnt going anywhere

Edited by scottyno, 09 May 2011 - 09:18 PM.

[Ed Hillel]

Miami wouldn't do this, but if they offered Wade and Bosh for D Ho, Nelson and filler, could Orlando really pass tht up?

You're right, Miami would never allow it to happen, but I do actually think it would make the Heat a better team.

[The_Powa_of_Seiji_Ozawa]

Pure speculation, but I wouldnt be surprised if he's drinking. He seems sorta depressed, hasnt been hustling, and has been gaining a ton of weight. Plus he has had alcohol issues in the past. He is positively Vin Baker-esue out there

He's sad that you can't really see his tattoo sleeve like he had hoped when he first got it.

[Hee-Seop's Fable]

Bad knees = can't run around as much and can't stay in shape.

Baby actually lost weight in the first half of the year, I just find it hard to believe that he suddenly got so lazy as to gain a good maybe 20 pounds. He also messed up his knee earlier this year. I think he's got lingering issues.

He's got lingering issues because he kept eating when he had to stay off his knees. He eats like it doesn't matter, when in fact its what's standing between him being a marginal player and being a key rotation piece. He's not Oliver Miller, but it's the same issue. He's clueless.

I'm nattering, but I'm ripped they got this close only to let it slither through their fingers when that was entirely unnecessary.

Huge props to West on his defense on Wade. He was Posey-esque.

[TripleOT]

Pure speculation, but I wouldnt be surprised if he's drinking. He seems sorta depressed, hasnt been hustling, and has been gaining a ton of weight. Plus he has had alcohol issues in the past. He is positively Vin Baker-esue out there

Rad, he did a night club appearance in my city a few months ago, and didn't touch a drop of alcohol. FWIW

[The Social Chair]

Howard will probably go to LA or, at the very least, stay in a warm climate.

But man, would he benefit playing with Rondo.

Or he could play with Deron Williams, a much better player.

[nazz45]

This. You've got to drive with about 5 seconds left and if the double comes, kick out. Pierce had legs tonight and when he went strong to the hoop, either he got a good look at the rim, got fouled or had someone open to kick to. Just poor execution on the most important game of the Celtics season.

People continuing to crap on Pierce for this despite the obvious fact he was waiting for a screen on the ball or away from it while Ray Allen and Kevin Garnett suffered acute dementia and kept running into each other for 5 straight seconds.

Edited by nazz45, 09 May 2011 - 09:19 PM.

[The Belly Itcher]

Pure speculation, but I wouldnt be surprised if he's drinking. He seems sorta depressed, hasnt been hustling, and has been gaining a ton of weight. Plus he has had alcohol issues in the past. He is positively Vin Baker-esue out there

It's true. I haven't seen him Dougie in the past three months. That's a red flag listed in the DSM-IV.

[The_Powa_of_Seiji_Ozawa]

I'm not sure what this means but Dwight Howard is slightly better than Eddy Curry.

I mean that if Dwight Howard is not allowed to get away with all of his elbowing, he would basically be Eddy Curry.

[BucketOBalls]

I'd take a chance on Greg Oden in a fucking heartbeat

Why, does Danny really love that draft or something?

Durant probably signed an extension or something.

[SemperFidelisSox]

We're spoiled because we watch how the Sox operate during their offseasons and think the Celtics can just do the same. Basketball is different. You don't reload and just replace Garnett and Allen with Howard and Superstar X.

[bball831]

If the Celtics win game 5, is there any doubt we play a game 7?

[Jed Zeppelin]

Are you guys sure this wasn't an elimination game? The vital organs sitting in my throat and my frighteningly limp dick sure are telling me it was.