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The Sixth Annual Just How Good Is Robinson Cano? Thread


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#1 WayBackVazquez

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Posted 26 April 2011 - 09:43 PM

I imagine someone will start the 6th annual thread.

Cano has 1 walk this season. .301 avg, .306 OBP. He has not walked in his last 19 games.

#2 Sampo Gida

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Posted 27 April 2011 - 06:05 PM

He has also been less than stellar in the field with hands like bricks thus far.

#3 rembrat


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Posted 27 April 2011 - 07:05 PM

Perhaps we were too quick to proclaim Cano as the Yankees best hitter. We didnt look at the data. The data that shows his O-Swing % at 36.5, a career mark. Also that of his 57 BB last year, 14 of them were intentional. Take those away and he is right around his usual number.

To carify, hid O-Swing % last year was 36.5 and it is currently 40ish.

Interesting.

#4 jon abbey


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Posted 27 April 2011 - 09:08 PM

The physics of how he manages to pull inside pitches for so much power and still keep them fair is beyond me.

#5 th@tkid

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Posted 28 April 2011 - 08:40 AM

I think he is walking less (especially the intentional walks) because ARod is back to being ARod plus Tex is hitting more this year. Pitchers have to throw strikes to one of them my guess is Robinson is more likely to swing at something out of the zone so pitchers are going after him more now. That may change though and his walks may increase if they determine they cant really get him out.

#6 EvilEmpire

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Posted 28 April 2011 - 12:22 PM

Sometimes I think he sees the ball too well. Sort of like Vlad. Doesn't matter where the ball is in the strikezone, if he thinks he can get to it, he goes after it.

#7 crow216

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Posted 28 April 2011 - 11:55 PM

I think he is walking less (especially the intentional walks) because ARod is back to being ARod plus Tex is hitting more this year. Pitchers have to throw strikes to one of them my guess is Robinson is more likely to swing at something out of the zone so pitchers are going after him more now. That may change though and his walks may increase if they determine they cant really get him out.


Except that he hits behind them both and hasn't walked when people aren't on base either.

#8 Bob420

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Posted 29 April 2011 - 09:15 PM

Two BB and 2 frozen rope HR's.

#9 Clears Cleaver


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Posted 17 May 2011 - 03:45 PM

6 bbs in 147ABS and a .290 slg in May so far. Teams are not pitching to him becasue no one around him is hitting. And he is swinging at a lot more pitches out of the zone. does not bode well unless they wove him int front of Teix or Granderson or something

#10 Bob420

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Posted 18 May 2011 - 08:23 AM

They need to switch Cano and Tex.

#11 Doug Beerabelli


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Posted 18 May 2011 - 09:14 AM

They need to switch Cano and Tex.


They need to switch Posada and Montero, too, but that's probably appropriate for another thread.

#12 derekson

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Posted 27 June 2011 - 02:26 PM

Interesting article on ESPN.com about the Yankees' deficient defense on the right side of the infield.

#13 jon abbey


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Posted 27 June 2011 - 07:43 PM

I agree that Cano's D so far has not been as good as 2010, manos de piedra way too often although better recently. I did just notice, FWIW, that he's leading the league by a huge amount in Putouts as 2B, and also right up there in range factor and assists.

http://www.baseball-...g-leaders.shtml

#14 TheYaz67

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Posted 27 June 2011 - 08:26 PM

I agree that Cano's D so far has not been as good as 2010, manos de piedra way too often although better recently. I did just notice, FWIW, that he's leading the league by a huge amount in Putouts as 2B, and also right up there in range factor and assists.

http://www.baseball-...g-leaders.shtml


That's perhaps partly the effect of all your opponents "stacking" their lineups to get as many left handed hitters in when playing in NY, to take shots at the short porch in right (and no Pettitte)....

#15 WayBackVazquez

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Posted 27 June 2011 - 08:54 PM

That's perhaps partly the effect of all your opponents "stacking" their lineups to get as many left handed hitters in when playing in NY, to take shots at the short porch in right (and no Pettitte)....


It's also partly the effect of him having played more games at 2B than anyone else. He's "right up there" in assists, but the Yankees are 8th in 2B assists.

#16 derekson

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Posted 20 July 2011 - 07:44 PM

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#17 Snodgrass'Muff


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Posted 20 July 2011 - 08:09 PM

While a graph of one at bat is hardly proof of anything, it does coincide with a rise in O-Swing% this year. It's the highest of his career, and has gone up a little over 9% in the last two years. His walk rate is back down to 4.5%, where it was in 2009, after a brief spike in 2010. He' also striking out at a slightly higher rate than he did in the previous three seasons and has seen his OBP drop 43 points from 2010. It's back in line with his pre 2010 rates now.

He's right at the start of his peak years, so you'd hope to be seeing those numbers getting better, rather than going in the opposite direction, but it's possible that last year is an outlier and that his baseline is more like his 2009. It's also possible that this is a momentary reprieve for non-Yankees fans and that his 2012 will look more like his 2011, or that his he has a good high streak left in him this year which will bring his 2011 numbers back up.

But to this point in the season, he's definitely taken a step backward and gone from one of the best players in baseball to simply one of the best second baseman.

#18 Bob420

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Posted 21 July 2011 - 07:56 AM

His 2nd half splits are much better than his first half splits. He is due for another big month like April. I doubt he reaches his 2010 numbers but somewhere between his 2009 and 2010 numbers is possible.

#19 terrynever

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Posted 05 October 2011 - 02:22 PM

Kevin Goldstein explains how the baseball scouting world didn't see Cano coming during his minor league days:

http://insider.espn....d-robinson-cano




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