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[rembrat]

Ok, we het it.

[SpruceTrap]

Ok, we het it.

lol

[Alcohol&Overcalls]

http://www.boston.co...ml?comments=all

Let's see, he misspelled Saltalmacchia and threw in a few "bonus" capital letters int he middle of names. Overall, one of his better efforts.

I think you might misunderstand the notion of "blog" to be honest - the point is that it's NOT a fully-edited and fully-vetted piece of astounding journalism. It's a snap reaction, a small nugget, or a momentary observation. Typos and etc. really aren't that big of a deal there, and the form lends itself well to post hoc editing.

PeteAbe does enough "being plain wrong" that you don't need to impugn the entire form of "blog."

[Lose Remerswaal]

Dude. Did he steal your girlfriend?

We know you don't like him. Neither do most of us. But typos on a blog? If that's bad then . . .

I see this

misspelled Saltalmacchia

and

capital letters int he middle of names

Should I start a thread about how you can't spell and shouldn't be posting on a website?

[URI]

Stop please. People make typos and mistakes. Your head would explode if you ever read Bill Simmons if that stuff bothers you.

Just go back to calling him fatty fatty fat fat.

[John Marzano Olympic Hero]

Get a hobby. Seriously.

[Mystic Merlin]

It seems like he would fit in nicely around here. I don't mind that kind of stuff on a blog or on twitter. Everyone on the internet needs to grow a pair.

I always knew you hated women.

[SpruceTrap]

Stop please. People make typos and mistakes. Your head would explode if you ever read Bill Simmons if that stuff bothers you.

Just go back to calling him fatty fatty fat fat.

By all means, go for it. Seriously though, this guy is an actual sports writer, not a member of SOSH. He gets to vote on awards as a member of the BBWAA.

[URI]

By all means, go for it. Seriously though, this guy is an actual sports writer, not a member of SOSH. He gets to vote on awards as a member of the BBWAA.

Go for what?

[DrewDawg]

Go for what?

The gold.

Duh.

[Van Everyman]

More fodder for both sides, I think:

@PeteAbe: No, do you get paid to troll? // RT @jeter2blue: @PeteAbe do u get paid by the tweet?

[StuckAtTheCask]

Pre-game post:
"It's safe to say we know Bobby Valentine is not taking lineup suggestions from baseball operations.
Nick Punto is a career .169/.244/.244 hitter in 176 plate appearances hitting leadoff. He's hitting leadoff."

In-game post:
"It's really quite hilarious that so many people were up and [sic] arms over Punto hitting leadoff and he has three hits and three RBIs."

[ForKeeps]

It's really quite hilarious that Pete thinks the Red Sox baseball ops people believe 176 PA is predictive of anything, or that context/lineup dependent stats mean anything. Did he also forget that it was the saber-nerd front office that signed Punto and not Bobby V himself?

It is amazing that relatively intelligent people like Abraham still think "So and so is 5 for 35 against Pitcher X" is how smart teams want their managers to manage.

Edited by ForKeeps, 08 April 2012 - 06:18 PM.

[rembrat]

@PeteAbe
Just curious. If you are attending the #RedSox opener tomorrow, cheering or booing when they are introduced?

-9 minutes ago
https://twitter.com/#!/PeteAbe/status/190507480869109760


He's fucking with us right?

[E5 Yaz]

Nah, as usual, he's too lazy to come up with stuff on his own

[SydneySox]

I kind of hope he is fucking with us. It would be awesome.

[E5 Yaz]

PeteAbe Off for a couple of days. Catch you on Wednesday.

First homestand of the year, traditional Patriot's Day game against rival, going for a sweep, Bard's second start in the experiment, BV makes odd comment about Youk ... and he's taking MORE time off?

[Rough Carrigan]

It's really quite hilarious that Pete thinks the Red Sox baseball ops people believe 176 PA is predictive of anything, or that context/lineup dependent stats mean anything. Did he also forget that it was the saber-nerd front office that signed Punto and not Bobby V himself?

It is amazing that relatively intelligent people like Abraham still think "So and so is 5 for 35 against Pitcher X" is how smart teams want their managers to manage.

I'm not trying to be argumentative, but 5 for 35 IS significant. 1 for 7 would be relatively meaningless. But you get relatively few batter vs. pitcher matchups of that many at bats and that clear (obviously, whether there are a high number of K's and low power is info also needed to fill out some context.) If someone on the Sox was 5 for 35 against, say, Sabathia and that wasn't a big part of whether that guy played or another possible substitute, I'd think it was a serious omission to not take that into account in a significant way, not all encompassing this decides it and nothing else but very significant. The chances of 1 for 7 being a fluke are pretty good. The chances of 5 for 35 being a fluke are disappearing.

Edited by Rough Carrigan, 15 April 2012 - 10:11 PM.

[RedOctober3829]

First homestand of the year, traditional Patriot's Day game against rival, going for a sweep, Bard's second start in the experiment, BV makes odd comment about Youk ... and he's taking MORE time off?

He's obviously running in the marathon tomorrow.

[E5 Yaz]

He's obviously running in the marathon tomorrow.

... and the next day

[Buffalo Head]

First homestand of the year -- meaningless
traditional Patriot's Day game -- meaningless
against rival -- really meaningless in mid-April
going for a sweep -- totally and utterly meaningless
Bard's second start in the experiment -- see above
BV makes odd comment about Youk -- also not important

and he's taking MORE time off?

Yes, he is. You can kill the man over a lot of things, but having done this job for two years, it is a brutal fucking grind, BRUTAL, especially at the beginning of the season, and given that the series at the end of the week is going to be full battle stations, this is exactly the time to get a couple days and re-charge. I don't expect you or any of the other "I'D DO IT FOR FREE!!1@@11" internet toughguys to understand it, but you cannot expect any beat writer to go 162 for 162. Its just not humanly possible. He went straight from Ft. Myers to Detroit to Toronto to back home. The "off-days" were travel days, which are far more fatiguing than the actual game days.

So, Shut the Fuck Up.

[BannedbyNYYFans.com]

He's obviously running in the marathon tomorrow.

Thanks for that. I almost spit out my drink.

[John Marzano Olympic Hero]

First homestand of the year -- meaningless
traditional Patriot's Day game -- meaningless
against rival -- really meaningless in mid-April
going for a sweep -- totally and utterly meaningless
Bard's second start in the experiment -- see above
BV makes odd comment about Youk -- also not important

and he's taking MORE time off?

Yes, he is. You can kill the man over a lot of things, but having done this job for two years, it is a brutal fucking grind, BRUTAL, especially at the beginning of the season, and given that the series at the end of the week is going to be full battle stations, this is exactly the time to get a couple days and re-charge. I don't expect you or any of the other "I'D DO IT FOR FREE!!1@@11" internet toughguys to understand it, but you cannot expect any beat writer to go 162 for 162. Its just not humanly possible. He went straight from Ft. Myers to Detroit to Toronto to back home. The "off-days" were travel days, which are far more fatiguing than the actual game days.

So, Shut the Fuck Up.

Quoted for truth. From the type-o's to the complaints about vacation days and his appearance (seriously, I'm no looker but I've been to SoSH bashes -- 99% of should really look in a mirror before calling someone else "Fat Pete") , there's a lot of sandy vag complaining about PA. There's bigger fish to fry with this guy. Most of this thread is noise made by people, who if they switched places with PA, would probably act the same, exact way that he does. Have you read the main board lately?

[Judge Mental13]

[Judge Mental13]

Seriously though, there are plenty of legit things to criticize Abraham (or any media member, really) about....this thread has become a long series of reaches and extreme butthurt-ishness lately

[HomeBrew1901]

First homestand of the year -- meaningless
traditional Patriot's Day game -- meaningless
against rival -- really meaningless in mid-April
going for a sweep -- totally and utterly meaningless
Bard's second start in the experiment -- see above
BV makes odd comment about Youk -- also not important

and he's taking MORE time off?

Yes, he is. You can kill the man over a lot of things, but having done this job for two years, it is a brutal fucking grind, BRUTAL, especially at the beginning of the season, and given that the series at the end of the week is going to be full battle stations, this is exactly the time to get a couple days and re-charge. I don't expect you or any of the other "I'D DO IT FOR FREE!!1@@11" internet toughguys to understand it, but you cannot expect any beat writer to go 162 for 162. Its just not humanly possible. He went straight from Ft. Myers to Detroit to Toronto to back home. The "off-days" were travel days, which are far more fatiguing than the actual game days.

So, Shut the Fuck Up.

Agreed, but why does he feel the need to announce it? I really really really don't care if he takes a few days or a month off but I find it odd that he points out when he is doing it. Serious question because I don't use twitter all that often, but do any of the other beat writers or baseball columnists announce that they will be taking a few days off?

For the folks that hate Pete and bitch about his every move and typo, isn't his taking time off a good thing?

I'm not a fan myself, I think he is an ownership/management suck up that puts very little thought or time into his job, but the great thing about the internet and not knowing the guy personally, is that he is very very very easy to avoid and I don't have to read him or follow his every move. For the short time I was following Twitter, i quickly removed him because I found that Edes, McAdam, and others were far far better than he was. Problem solved.

Edited by HomeBrew1901, 16 April 2012 - 08:41 AM.

[Red(s)HawksFan]

Agreed, but why does he feel the need to announce it? I really really really don't care if he takes a few days or a month off but I find it odd that he points out when he is doing it. Serious question because I don't use twitter all that often, but do any of the other beat writers or baseball columnists announce that they will be taking a few days off?

For the folks that hate Pete and bitch about his every move and typo, isn't his taking time off a good thing?

I'm not a fan myself, I think he is an ownership/management suck up that puts very little thought or time into his job, but the great thing about the internet and not knowing the guy personally, is that he is very very very easy to avoid and I don't have to read him or follow his every move. For the short time I was following Twitter, i quickly removed him because I found that Edes, McAdam, and others were far far better than he was. Problem solved.

I think the reason he made a point of saying he was off for a couple days is because he probably gets 100s of tweets a day from his less informed followers wanting to know what's going on with the Sox or what his opinion is about whatever. Announcing he's off for a couple days maybe stems the tide of requests for which he has no answer.

Still smacks of self-importance since none of his colleagues see fit to announce when they're not at the ballpark or have a day off. Wonder what Edes or Silverman or Britton do when they have a day off...answer the tweets on their day off or just ignore them.

[E5 Yaz]

Gee, would have been an interesting day for the Sox beat writer to actually be at work.

Part of doing this type of job for a living is knowing when you have to be at work even when you're scheduled not to

I don't expect you or any of the other "I'D DO IT FOR FREE!!1@@11" internet toughguys to understand it, but you cannot expect any beat writer to go 162 for 162. Its just not humanly possible.

So, Shut the Fuck Up.

I may come off an being an Internet tough guy, but I also have 30+ years of newspaper experience as a reporter and editor. I've been a minor league beat writer, covered pro games and been an assignment editor for major league beat guys. So I do have some experience in this arena.

There are days when the story is trending in such a direction that you should delay a day off because of what might happen. That's where your instincts should kick in as a reporter and you say to yourself, "I think I should be there." If Abraham didn't have that bell go off for the other "unimportant" reasons, it sure as shit should have rung with the Youk comments.

Unless there's some personal issue that the masses are unaware of (always a possibility) that prevented him from pushing his days off until Tuesday, as a beat guy, this is a day I'd fight to be at the park because there was action to be found.

Edited by E5 Yaz, 16 April 2012 - 02:00 PM.

[brs3]

He took a few days off during spring training, and he's taking a few days off now. Maybe he's in the second round of interviews somewhere. One can only hope!

[curly2]

There are days when the story is trending in such a direction that you should delay a day off because of what might happen. That's where your instincts should kick in as a reporter and you say to yourself, "I think I should be there." If Abraham didn't have that bell go off for the other "unimportant" reasons, it sure as shit should have rung with the Youk comments.

I agree with your premise but I don't think this is a "I've got to drop everything and cover this" story. Valentine's not getting fired over this. I just watched "Outside the Lines" and Francona, who could easily be crowing and making a huge deal of this, said it's not that big a story.

Plus, Shaughnessy, Cafardo and Vega are all there (I think someone mentioned Shaughnessy there and Vega and Cafardo are on the blog), so it's not like he's leaving it in the hands of a college intern.

[Buffalo Head]

I agree with your premise but I don't think this is a "I've got to drop everything and cover this" story. Valentine's not getting fired over this. I just watched "Outside the Lines" and Francona, who could easily be crowing and making a huge deal of this, said it's not that big a story.

Plus, Shaughnessy, Cafardo and Vega are all there (I think someone mentioned Shaughnessy there and Vega and Cafardo are on the blog), so it's not like he's leaving it in the hands of a college intern.

E-X-A-C-T-L-Y

[E5 Yaz]

Plus, Shaughnessy, Cafardo and Vega are all there (I think someone mentioned Shaughnessy there and Vega and Cafardo are on the blog), so it's not like he's leaving it in the hands of a college intern.

This is true ... but why would he want to leave it to others? the premise of this thread is whether Abraham is lazy; choosing to stay home on a day such as this adds to that perception, at least in my view

[Red(s)HawksFan]

Unless there's some personal issue that the masses are unaware of (always a possibility) that prevented him from pushing his days off until Tuesday, as a beat guy, this is a day I'd fight to be at the park because there was action to be found.

What if the personal issue was as simple as his kids were out of school for vacation week and he made plans to spend the day(s) with them? There was nothing dire going on that warranted disappointing the kids. I understand that the baseball season is the busy season for beat writers, but considering the Globe has two or three people covering practically every game anyway (home games, at least), it isn't really imperative that PeteAbe be at the ballpark to cover Youk-gate, is it? Guess you could argue professional pride or whatever, but I don't think it's lazy or a lack of commitment to the job to choose not to come in to work on a scheduled day off. Especially in a job that requires significant time away from home (about 2 months straight prior to this weekend for a beat-guy like Abraham).

Edited by Red(s)HawksFan, 16 April 2012 - 02:41 PM.

[John Marzano Olympic Hero]

This is true ... but why would he want to leave it to others? the premise of this thread is whether Abraham is lazy; choosing to stay home on a day such as this adds to that perception, at least in my view

You work at a newspaper, but you don't do everything, right? There are what, two or three Sox beat writers for the Globe? There's a reason for that; people need days off every now and then. And this isn't going to be the first time that Bobby Valentine shoots his mouth off. Yes, it's the first time, but it's going to happen again. While it's a big story right now, it's probably not going to be that big by say Wednesday or Thursday.

Valentine isn't getting fired, Youkilis won't be traded and this is going to be the way that the Sox are going to be this year.

[Buffalo Head]

I was an the assignment editor for our beat writers covering the Florida Marlins.

For the third time, this is PM stuff.

Those who can't, edit.

[IpswichSox]

This is true ... but why would he want to leave it to others? the premise of this thread is whether Abraham is lazy; choosing to stay home on a day such as this adds to that perception, at least in my view

This is like nouveau-Bob Neumeier, old-school Shaughnessy trying to find negative where it doesn't exist just to kick-start or further an argument. The guy can take a few days off.

[mt8thsw9th]

I want Frogboy to be involved in this somehow.

[E5 Yaz]

I want Frogboy to be involved in this somehow.

No shit, at least then it would be funny

[Foulkey Reese]

But that's not how they roll in the Sally League, dammit!

Is that code for the WNBA?

[Buffalo Head]

Is that code for the WNBA?

Now that was a job with no days off. None of this sissy baseball shit.

[jon abbey]

What if the personal issue was as simple as his kids were out of school for vacation week and he made plans to spend the day(s) with them?

Abraham has kids? Is that really true? Somehow I always pictured him as the kid from high school who never learned to talk to women and just gave up at some point.

[Red(s)HawksFan]

Abraham has kids? Is that really true? Somehow I always pictured him as the kid from high school who never learned to talk to women and just gave up at some point.

I honestly have no idea. Just throwing out a plausible reason why he might have taken days off this week that he wouldn't want to push off because of some stupid story coming out of Fenway. Maybe he needed a full day or two to re-stock the pantries at home. After all, he's been away for 2+ months.

[TomRicardo]

Wait people are complaining that PeteAbe is taking a vacation from slinging his garbage?

[ForKeeps]

@PeteAbe Valentine now gets booed in Boston like he invented rap, not the wrap.

what does this even mean. is this a thinly veiled, "Boston is racist" joke?

[kelpapa]

@PeteAbe Valentine now gets booed in Boston like he invented rap, not the wrap.

what does this even mean. is this a thinly veiled, "Boston is racist" joke?

Edit: After re-reading this, I'm not sure if you were aware of the wrap comment or not.

Edited by kelpapa, 21 April 2012 - 08:27 PM.

[mrsbeasley]

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Edit: After re-reading this, I'm not sure if you were aware of the wrap comment or not.

Unless I'm misreading something, it seems to me the question is why would Boston boo him for inventing rap music (regardless of knowing the wrap story or not)? Does that tweet even make sense or is it, as suggested, a subtle jab at Boston being racist?

[Titoschew]

Recchi the Dog ‏ @RecchiDog476
@peteabe im a dog that cant read but ur a shitty writer bro

[kelpapa]

Unless I'm misreading something, it seems to me the question is why would Boston boo him for inventing rap music (regardless of knowing the wrap story or not)? Does that tweet even make sense or is it, as suggested, a subtle jab at Boston being racist?

I realized that was what he was commenting on after I posted.

[BoSoxLady]

Last night @toeingtherubber tweeted that she read Peter Abraham's twitter feed from yesterday’s game and (paraphrasing) that it was sad that he appears to hate himself and the team he covers.

I un-followed him a while ago but was curious about his tweets that Cyn referenced, so I searched for his recent tweets. Lo and behold, he’s blocked me. Holy shit, he’s such an asshole.

I wasn’t in a great mood after the game (shocker!) and pondered posting his exchange with me that I assume is the root of “the block”. Enjoy.

And so it begins……

3/29 3:28PM
@PeteAbe tweets from JetBlue Park: “When Aceves was walking off the mound, a Florida yahoo yelled: Get ‘em outta there”. “Fenway South, same as Fenway North”.

3/29 3:28PM‏ @Dan_OMara to @PeteAbe:
“Why do you feel the need to gripe about red sox fans? They're the ones that follow you and read your stuff.”

3:29 @bosoxlady tweets:
@Dan_OMara @PeteAbe It's amazing the level of disdain he shows toward the people who keep him employed. #sosad

3:29 DM from @PeteAbe
“Globe employs me ma’am. Not some bad fans. The facts are the facts. You should hear what people say to the players. It’s beyond vulgar.”

3:30 @bosoxlady tweets to @PeteAbe: “Can't respond to your DM unless you follow me. I loathe boorish fan behavior. You make snarky remarks to fans. Report, don't chide.”

3:30 DM from @PeteAbe
“ The reputation of Red sox fans around baseball is not expecially (sic) good. Most visiting teams tell their families to stay away from Fenway.”

3:31 DM from @PeteAbe
“If you approve of “fans” threatening women children and cursing at players, that’s your business I guess.”

3:50 @bosoxlady tweets: “Are you enjoying sending me multiple DM to which I can't respond?”

3:52 DM from @PeteAbe
“Not enjoying it in the slightest. Just telling you the situation. Felt it was my obligation. Have a good day.”

3:55 DM from @PeteAbe “If you are too sensitive to read it, I fully understand. But I call it like I see it.”

4:07 @truthaboutmike tweets to @bosoxlady: lol. What’s going on with P-Abe?

4:16 @bosoxlady replies to @truthaboutmike:
“DM'd me 4 times. He didn't like my tweet questioning his disdain for Sox fans. I can't write him back. #boofuckinghoo”

My hash tag to @truthaboutmike was: #boofuckinghoo. Keep in mind that I didn’t cc Peter Abraham on that tweet however, Pete obviously searched out the tweet.

Final DM from Pete: “#boofuckinghoo. All class. Typical.”

7:45 @bosoxlady tweets Peter Abraham: Hey @PeteAbe: Thanks for another unsolicited DM. That's SIX today. You made our long drive very entertaining. #loser

I was able to locate a couple of Pete’s tweets referenced by Cyn. “Good news, fans. Red Sox offering 2 for 1 deal on Fenway Park bricks. One to engrave your name on, one to throw.”

Last season after a fan reached over the wall in RF interfering with a play, he tweeted (paraphrase): In my day, if a fan did that there’d be a brawl.

Peter Abraham is a sick, twisted individual. Shame on you, Boston Globe.

[BoSoxLady]

I decided to email the Globe about Pete's behavior regarding his tweets to me. Here's Sports Editor Joe Sullivan's reply:

"Cheri: Thanks for writing. I’ve spoken to Peter and after reading the string of tweets it’s clear to me he was trying to explain to you that some Red Sox fans are offensive and vulgar. That can be a reality check for the Red Sox fans who behave well. He also was trying to explain how his job works, he’s a critical observer not someone who’s invested in the results of the game. That’s how a beat reporter gets the best results.

Joe Sullivan
Sports Editor/Boston Globe"

It's good to know the Globe has no Code of Conduct.