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[BigSoxFan]

No 33 TE prospect in the country Giacone switches from Rutgers to BC. Takes a bit of the sting away from the Grant switch.

Cool. Does this mean we might actually throw a ball to a TE this decade?

[Dave Stapleton]

3 Star 33 TE and 19 in NJ. For comparison, Sam Grant who decommitted and switched to Oklahoma was ranked 35 TE in country.

Edited by Dave Stapleton, 31 January 2012 - 02:17 PM.

[mikcou]

3 Star 33 TE and 19 in NJ. For comparison, Sam Grant who decommitted and switched to Oklahoma was ranked 35 TE in country.

And with that addition, the class has lost 3 star DT Jaxon Hood - looks like hes going to stay in state.

[BigMike]

And with that addition, the class has lost 3 star DT Jaxon Hood - looks like hes going to stay in state.

Didn't care about losing Lynch, thought he was a product of weak competition. Giacone replaces Grant easily. Dudeck replaces Henry easily. Losing Hood is the big loss to me, The kid has a non stop motor, and will be a really good player

[mikcou]

Didn't care about losing Lynch, thought he was a product of weak competition. Giacone replaces Grant easily. Dudeck replaces Henry easily. Losing Hood is the big loss to me, The kid has a non stop motor, and will be a really good player

You didnt care about losing the only RB in the class? One of the few guys in the class (other than Grant) who had solid high major offers? He may have been a product of weak competition, although I have no idea how you would know that. Either way the loss of Lynch means that the program wont have a RB in their class two straight years and effectively have a huge hole on the depth chart.

Im also not sure that Dudeck replaces Henry. Henry presumably had some chance of playing corner - Dudeck doesn't seem to even have that chance. On the lower level guys, I would rather just take a chance on the most athletic of them, which is what Henry was.

[BigMike]

You didnt care about losing the only RB in the class? One of the few guys in the class (other than Grant) who had solid high major offers? He may have been a product of weak competition, although I have no idea how you would know that. Either way the loss of Lynch means that the program wont have a RB in their class two straight years and effectively have a huge hole on the depth chart.

Im also not sure that Dudeck replaces Henry. Henry presumably had some chance of playing corner - Dudeck doesn't seem to even have that chance. On the lower level guys, I would rather just take a chance on the most athletic of them, which is what Henry was.

BC has at least 4 sophmore CB's next year (3 of whom have played a tron). Sure I'd love to get a great CB, but Henry was a guy who would have struggled to see playing time for the next 3 years. At the end of the day it doesn't matter. Henry just didn't want to play football, so it is best BC found out now that he didn't have the heart to play football, than after they wasted a scholie on him. Dudeck may not play CB, but he is far more likely to force himself into some playing time than Henry was, the kid is coaches son / pure football player

In terms of Lynch's competion. I watched the tape, most of his runs were hand off, run through a gaping hole and go 60 yards without getting touched. Once in a while there was one broken feeble arm tackle attempt. I would have liked a RB in this class, but no freshman (well none BC was involved with) was going to play at that position next year unless BC is completely ravaged by injuries again, and even the year after that is going to be a fight for PT for RBs

[kenneycb]

It just seems like the RB situation is going to revert back to the situation we had when Montel and Harris were freshmen and the only viable RBs on the roster.

[berniecarbo1]

<sub>Even Blaudshun is low keying things.....must really be a bad class....and they only have about 16 commitments...small class, weak talent, looks like a great recruiting year, no?

http://www.boston.co...ll_Sports_links


As GDF would say..."Spaz is doing a great job!"</sub>

[BigSoxFan]

It just seems like the RB situation is going to revert back to the situation we had when Montel and Harris were freshmen and the only viable RBs on the roster.

That's my concern. Here's what we have at RB:

Montel Harris: 1 year left
Andre Williams: 2 years left
Rolandan Finch: 2 years left
Tahj Kimble: 3 years left

That's it. Finch is a backup type and Kimble is a change of pace RB. If Andre Williams doesn't revert back to frosh form, we won't be looking very good at that position in 2013. We absolutely need a couple RB recruits in the 2013 class.

[mikcou]

That's my concern. Here's what we have at RB:

Montel Harris: 1 year left
Andre Williams: 2 years left
Rolandan Finch: 2 years left
Tahj Kimble: 3 years left

That's it. Finch is a backup type and Kimble is a change of pace RB. If Andre Williams doesn't revert back to frosh form, we won't be looking very good at that position in 2013. We absolutely need a couple RB recruits in the 2013 class.

Its at the point where they absolutely need an absolute stud recruit as well as a second quality guy at the position for the class of '13

[Jinhocho]

When the official commitments start coming into the football office this morning, there will not be much drama or hoopla.


A quiet football recruiting season at Boston College will produce no five-star or even four-star recruits.

Most of the recruiting services that rank these things no doubt will place the Eagles on the bottom of the Atlantic Coast Conference list, far behind Florida State, Miami, Clemson, and Virginia Tech, who dominate the top of the charts each year.

BC coach Frank Spaziani said he is working on a plan that involves getting “BC type’’ players.

When are they going to fire these guys. Working on a plan? WTF, they guy has been here for multiple years and he is "working on a plan?"

[mikcou]

When are they going to fire these guys. Working on a plan? WTF, they guy has been here for multiple years and he is "working on a plan?"

Shhh. You musn't disturb Coach Spaz's late afternoon/early evening nap.

[BigSoxFan]

A "BC type" player can now be defined as a kid with few to no other BCS offers who we settled for after we strike out on every priority target.

[berniecarbo1]

A "BC type" player can now be defined as a kid with few to no other BCS offers who we settled for after we strike out on every priority target.

Or in other words a guy who really has the size of an FBS player but the talent level of an FCS player, at least as they come out of high school. It used to be they would coach up the talent. Other than LB, that ain't happening anymore. Their "gets" are disgruntled Rutgers recruits. Look, the old adage was to try to grab recruits in other people's territories but keep your home grown talent. BC used to keep 75-80% of the Massachusetts/NH/RI and Connecticut talent that was FBS level. Yes they would lose a couple of super studs but those guys would go to Penn State, Nebraska, SBCC or Mich/tOSU. They would grab all the other guys along with Syracuse in New England and New York. Now?? they don't keep any stud players from their own back yard. That is the most indicting thing you see. They lose catholic high school kids to not only SBCC but just about any FBS program that comes in. This program is in deep $h!t!!!

[SoxScout]

Rutgers: I am told that Boston College running backs coach Ben Sirmans will join the Rutgers' staff in the same capacity.

Temple: Sources tell me that Boston College wide receivers coach Ryan Day has accepted the offensive coordinator position at Temple.

http://www.coachings...rch-ticker.html

This comes after Brock bolted to Rutgers and strength coach Loscalzo went to Washington State.

Edited by SoxScout, 10 February 2012 - 02:02 PM.

[Dave Stapleton]

http://www.coachings...rch-ticker.html

This comes after Brock bolted to Rutgers and strength coach Loscalzo went to Washington State.

Not surprising. At least we now know for sure that if the Spaz era ends next year it will be a complete housecleaning.

[berniecarbo1]

Look at the programs these guys are going to.....nothing great IMO. Spaz should be gone after this year unless he wins 8 games. The death watch starts in a couple of weeks.

Edited by berniecarbo1, 10 February 2012 - 02:45 PM.

[BigMike]

Look at the programs these guys are going to.....nothing great IMO. Spaz should be gone after this year unless he wins 8 games. The death watch starts in a couple of weeks.

Well 2 of the 3 are leaving to get significant promotions. So it isn't abou the program they are going to it is about the role they are going to get. Brock had been demoted all the way down to ST coach, so I am sure he would have taken most any chance to get back into an offensive position, and getting a coordinator role if a huge upgrade for him. Same is true of Day who simply was stagnant at BC. He didn't really produce anything on the field or in recruiting, so let him move on. Maybe Temple will let him run his beloved spread.

In terms of Sirmins that hasn't been confirmed yet, so we'll have to see if it happens, And if he gets something else in addition to RB coach, does he get recruiting coordinator, or assistant head coach, until something actually happens we'll wait to see. If he does leave for a lateral position then that would be odd.

I see it as an opportunity for BC in some ways, I think changes can be good, and this team Desperately needed changes in the staff. It will all depend on how they are able to replace these guys. I hope at least 2 of the 3 replacements are young guys preferably from the FCS level, and really I hope 2 of the 3 are African American

[doldmoose34]

Well 2 of the 3 are leaving to get significant promotions. So it isn't abou the program they are going to it is about the role they are going to get. Brock had been demoted all the way down to ST coach, so I am sure he would have taken most any chance to get back into an offensive position, and getting a coordinator role if a huge upgrade for him. Same is true of Day who simply was stagnant at BC. He didn't really produce anything on the field or in recruiting, so let him move on. Maybe Temple will let him run his beloved spread.

In terms of Sirmins that hasn't been confirmed yet, so we'll have to see if it happens, And if he gets something else in addition to RB coach, does he get recruiting coordinator, or assistant head coach, until something actually happens we'll wait to see. If he does leave for a lateral position then that would be odd.

I see it as an opportunity for BC in some ways, I think changes can be good, and this team Desperately needed changes in the staff. It will all depend on how they are able to replace these guys. I hope at least 2 of the 3 replacements are young guys preferably from the FCS level, and really I hope 2 of the 3 are African American

Mike, what young up and coming coach in his right mind would come in to join this staff, knowing that you'll be shit canned next year? not to mention that spring practice starts NEXT FUCKING WEEK (the 18th) as I said over on EO this is self preservation for Siamans and Day the only good thing out of the whole week, BC wise is that JDF took the QB Coach job with the Raiders, thus preventing GDFuckface from bringing Junior in as HC in waiting

we're FUCKED

here is what I said over there:

I think that all these guys leaving is the handwriting on the wall that the upcoming season, 19 starters back or what, fuck it we could have the entire Bama team coming back and with these two morons at the helm, its 3-9 at best

I dont blame Siamans or Day one bit, its self preservation time now, take the job with Adizao, and who knows, he moves up to a better program Day can either tag along or maybe take over at Temple

we are fucked

Edited by doldmoose34, 11 February 2012 - 10:16 AM.

[berniecarbo1]

Well 2 of the 3 are leaving to get significant promotions. So it isn't abou the program they are going to it is about the role they are going to get. Brock had been demoted all the way down to ST coach, so I am sure he would have taken most any chance to get back into an offensive position, and getting a coordinator role if a huge upgrade for him. Same is true of Day who simply was stagnant at BC. He didn't really produce anything on the field or in recruiting, so let him move on. Maybe Temple will let him run his beloved spread.

In terms of Sirmins that hasn't been confirmed yet, so we'll have to see if it happens, And if he gets something else in addition to RB coach, does he get recruiting coordinator, or assistant head coach, until something actually happens we'll wait to see. If he does leave for a lateral position then that would be odd.

I see it as an opportunity for BC in some ways, I think changes can be good, and this team Desperately needed changes in the staff. It will all depend on how they are able to replace these guys. I hope at least 2 of the 3 replacements are young guys preferably from the FCS level, and really I hope 2 of the 3 are African American

Mike- I think we both agree that these coaches had to go both for them and the program but I also think Moose is correct in stating essentially this is a lame duck coachiing staff. Spaz is a disaster as a HC and even GDF has to admit that he (Spaz) is not HC material and at 63, he is at the end of the line, considering when he got his shot, he farted. And now with only 16 recruits coming in, the fanbase that is either angry or apathetic, there is very little to attract an up and coming assistant. Everyone is talking about all these guys who were hurt and will be back. OK, I'll give you that but honestly how really good are these guys and will Montel be Montel or a shell of himself. When you lose a year, you lose a step generally and it takes 2 years to get your speed back. By then Montel will be in the pros, or at least be out of the BC program. I am not a pessimist by nature. But there isn't a lot to be excited about with this program right now.

As I have told you guys over and over again, you judge a coach on his wins and losses when you are paying in the big time. The stats that are so telling on the ineptness of Spaz as a head coach are the following:

2-16 when trailing at the half;
2-10 v. the meat of their schedule-national teams they play each year- (2 wins v FSU, 0 wins v Va Tech,Clemson & SBCC);
unranked;
no bowl wins.

Moose says we are fucked...the above stats tell me we have been fucked for 3 years now, and it is only getting worse.

[BigMike]

Mike- I think we both agree that these coaches had to go both for them and the program but I also think Moose is correct in stating essentially this is a lame duck coachiing staff. Spaz is a disaster as a HC and even GDF has to admit that he (Spaz) is not HC material and at 63, he is at the end of the line, considering when he got his shot, he farted. And now with only 16 recruits coming in, the fanbase that is either angry or apathetic, there is very little to attract an up and coming assistant. Everyone is talking about all these guys who were hurt and will be back. OK, I'll give you that but honestly how really good are these guys and will Montel be Montel or a shell of himself. When you lose a year, you lose a step generally and it takes 2 years to get your speed back. By then Montel will be in the pros, or at least be out of the BC program. I am not a pessimist by nature. But there isn't a lot to be excited about with this program right now.

A couple things. On the only 16 recruits coming in. People use that as an example as though BC had 25 spots available. That wasn't the case, realistically The most BC could have taken this year without dropping guys from the 2 deep roster was 17 or maybe 18. Now admittedly the 16 inludes Stephan Daniels who still has work to do to qualify, but is as commitedly as they come if he can get in.

You are right who knows how good Montel will be. My understanding is the last surgury he has was more of the clean up variety, but who knows. They do now have decent Experience at RB as both Williams and Finch have had a ton of carries replacing Montel the past 15 games.

In terms of coaches taking the job. BC is still a significant step up for Assistant coaches at the FCS or even almost any FBS team. People will want these jobs. One year at BC is still a huge step up from a year at New Mexico St, or Kent St, or Richmond. And even if let go after the year is still a BIG bost for these coaches careers. There are also veterans from high wuality programs still out there (some more old OSU guys and others); I hope the hires are primarily young coaches, but another veteran or two won't hurt

[SoxScout]

Rivals.com is reporting that Boston College defensive line coach Jeff Comissiong has accepted the same position at Rutgers ($), and will be joining Ben Sirmans and Dave Brock in Piscataway. Comissiong is the fourth assistant coach to leave the program within the week, which, at least in my mind, answers the question of whether these guys were pushed out or left voluntarily.

http://www.bcinterru...-coaching-staff

This is embarrassing.

[Mystic Merlin]

Jags strikes again!

His reach is long, and it is powerful.

[BigSoxFan]

http://www.bcinterru...-coaching-staff

This is embarrassing.

I think it's hilarious. These guys know that Spaz is a goner. Might as well make the move on your own terms.

[mikcou]

A couple things. On the only 16 recruits coming in. People use that as an example as though BC had 25 spots available. That wasn't the case, realistically The most BC could have taken this year without dropping guys from the 2 deep roster was 17 or maybe 18. Now admittedly the 16 inludes Stephan Daniels who still has work to do to qualify, but is as commitedly as they come if he can get in.

Wait what does this even mean? Including all the people that come in they are at 81 scholarships. That means there are 4 empties. The 2-deep is completely irrelevant to this discussion. You don't bank that number of scholarships in football - you need to keep guys coming into the program because injuries, transfers and departures are inevitable in football.

[doldmoose34]

as some asshole you can guess who it was told @BCGenneD last night on twitta, will the last asst coach turn out the lights

and the problem with this years recruiting isn't that it was a small class, it was that the staff had targeted a number of guys as 'quality for the small quanity' and struck out on all of them. could one of the Spaz16 be the next Montel? sure, could we be wasting schollies on the next Hampton Hughes? more likely

early spring practice due to the re turfing of Alumni by graduation I guess (spring game on 3/31) and 4 position coaches lite a week before practice starts? how the hell is GDF gonna spin this

[BigMike]

Wait what does this even mean? Including all the people that come in they are at 81 scholarships. That means there are 4 empties. The 2-deep is completely irrelevant to this discussion. You don't bank that number of scholarships in football - you need to keep guys coming into the program because injuries, transfers and departures are inevitable in football.

The head coach says they are at 84.. Of course he is a lying fool so I am sure people on the net are more accurate.

Personally I see 69 people who have scholarships and eligibility left, and 16 new players coming in, so I guess some 5th year guys are going, or else they are pulling scholies from former walk ons who have played significant time and are on the 2 deep.

Freshmen (28)
The new 15 recruits +, Alex Howel P/PK, Christian Suntrup QB, Ameer Richardson DB, L Nick Lifka LB, Kieran Borcich DL, Victor Nelson, OL,, Eddie Meredith OL, Dan Lemke OL, Dave Bowen OL, Connor Wujack LB, Paul Gaughan OL, Brian Miller TE. Liam Porter OL

Sophmores (23)
Marcus Grant WR, ALJ DB, Spiffy Evans WR, Manny Asprilla DB, Josh Keys LB/DB, Sean Duggan LB, Mehdi Abdesmad DL, Spenser Rositino DB, Brian Mihalik DL, Josh Bordner QB, Dom Williams DB, Sean Sylvia DB, Tahj Kimble RB, Jame McCaffrey DB, Andy Galic OL, Harris Williams OL, Seth Bettencourt OL, Aaron Kramer OL, Bobby Vardaro OL, Jared Damstater TE, Dom Appiah, DL, CJ Jones DB, Max Ricci DL

Juniors (16)
Bobby Swigert WR, Chase Rettig QB, Jon Coleman WR, KPL LB, Duece Finch RB., Andre Lawrence LD, Jake Sinkovic LB, Andre Williams RB, Steele Divito LB, Bryan Davis OL, Ian White OL, Jaryd Rudolph DL, Alex Amidon WR, Nate Freese PK, Mike Naples TE, Kasim Edebali DL,

Seniors (18)
Colin Larmond WR, Dave Shinskie QB, Mike Marscovetra QB, Jim Noel DB, Donte Elliot WR, Hampton Hughes DB, Nick Clancy LB, Sean Flaherty LS, Mike Goodman DL, John Wetzel OL, Emmet Cleary OL, Chris Pantale TE, Dillon Quinn DL, Bryan Murray DL, Connor O'Neal DL, Montel Harris RB, Kaleb Ramsey DL, Ifeanyi Momah WR

Now I don't know which of the 85 is not coming back. I assume Goodman is the off man out as he has never been healthy enough to play. Now Momah is still a question mark, but you have to keep his scholie there. I guess maybe there is another senior or two they could have squeezed out, but it would have hurt depth and cut down on the number of players you could bring in next year

[BigMike]

Well it looks like the first new coach will be Sean Desai from U Miami, who is supposed to be the ST coordinator. Desai sounds like an incredibly motivated young man, 29 years old already had a PHD in Education Administration.

http://hurricanespor...sai_sean00.html