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2011 BC Football....It's Run by a Spaz


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#501 kenneycb


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Posted 23 December 2011 - 11:24 AM

Doug Martin new OC. Former head coach at Kent State. Hopefully he can take a punch better than Kevin Rogers (Thoughts and Prayers in his recovery)

Please respect Coach Rogers privacy.

Kinda meh about this hire. Had decent offenses in the MAC but I don't think he's anything to get excited about.

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Posted 25 December 2011 - 11:00 PM

Please respect Coach Rogers privacy.

Kinda meh about this hire. Had decent offenses in the MAC but I don't think he's anything to get excited about.



decent offenses with MAC players, which should work for us since most of the guys we're successfully recruiting only have MAC offers

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Posted 26 December 2011 - 08:05 PM

CSNNE is showing BC/ND from 1993

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 06:53 AM

Please respect Coach Rogers privacy.

Kinda meh about this hire. Had decent offenses in the MAC but I don't think he's anything to get excited about.


Agree on both thoughts Kenney. Who's gonna run this wild west offense that is being touted here? BC has a QB who can throw but can't really run and a QB who can run but can't really throw. Also begs the question...does this mean zone blocking is back in style?? I was in Boston for Christmas and met with a bunch (well 6) of my brother's classmates from BC (circa 1984) and they are all asking WTF is going on in Chestnut Hill with the football team. I think the concerns here on this thread are symbolic of the general feeling of the fan base, or what's left of it.

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 09:27 AM

Agree on both thoughts Kenney. Who's gonna run this wild west offense that is being touted here? BC has a QB who can throw but can't really run and a QB who can run but can't really throw. Also begs the question...does this mean zone blocking is back in style?? I was in Boston for Christmas and met with a bunch (well 6) of my brother's classmates from BC (circa 1984) and they are all asking WTF is going on in Chestnut Hill with the football team. I think the concerns here on this thread are symbolic of the general feeling of the fan base, or what's left of it.


We're a rudderless ship, which is the worst thing that can happen in college sports. Only Notre Dame can sell yesterday's news to recruits.

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 12:40 PM

Spaz as the ancient mariner?

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Posted 30 December 2011 - 10:14 AM

Everyone seemed to think BC was going to land 4-star DT Jamil Pollard yesterday during his live announcement at the Offense-Defense All-American Bowl.

He picked Penn State.

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Posted 30 December 2011 - 10:30 AM

I can't even begin to imagine how BC can lose a recruit to Penn State right now.

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Posted 30 December 2011 - 10:55 AM

I can't even begin to imagine how BC can lose a recruit to Penn State right now.

Me either. Really an indictment of the program as it stands right now.

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Posted 30 December 2011 - 01:19 PM

Me either. Really an indictment of the program as it stands right now.



Honestly I think it is an indictment of how little the Sandusky story means to HS football players, while generating a massive amount of buzz among us old farts.

Supposedly another case where the parents desperately wanted the child to go to BC, but the child made the decision.

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Posted 30 December 2011 - 01:47 PM

Okay, this might make me feel better:

Jamil Pollard Recommits To Penn State

Pollard, a 6-foot-5, 280-pounder from Westville, N.J. originally committed to the Nittany Lions and then-head coach Paterno on April 10, but lost his scholarship offer on July 17 when Penn State found out his grades weren't up to par.

With Paterno gone, though, he's apparently received another scholarship offer and, even in the face of the Jerry Sandusky child sex abuse scandal and ongoing coaching search, decided that Penn State is still the place for him. In choosing the Lions, he turns down offers from Alabama, Boston College, East Carolina, Florida, Iowa, North Carolina and Rutgers.

Kid might be afraid he couldn't handle the academics?

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Posted 30 December 2011 - 09:32 PM

I dont see much changing at BC till Gene D gone. Culture of mediocrity is something to shoot for these days...

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Posted 31 December 2011 - 11:41 AM

I dont see much changing at BC till Gene D gone. Culture of mediocrity is something to shoot for these days...



motto on GDF's wall, 'Ever to Excel My Ass'

ooops i ment self anointed Hall of Famer GDF

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 04:03 PM

Appears BC has hired former Ohio St assistant Jim Bollman to coach the OL. This is actually a sane, rational move.

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 04:37 PM

Appears BC has hired former Ohio St assistant Jim Bollman to coach the OL. This is actually a sane, rational move.


He's been hired as OL Coach and Running Game Coordinator with Devine moving to TEs and offensive assistant. I wonder if Brock is gone or moving to another spot.

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 07:02 PM

Luke turning pro.

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 07:54 PM

Luke turning pro.


What took him so long?

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 08:42 PM

I can't believe he would give up the opportunity to be on a squad that might go 6-6 and play Pittsburgh in the Belk Bowl for what, a multimillion dollar signing bonus and playing on Sundays in the NFL?? The NFL over the ACC....really Luke?? Saying bye bye to Magnum and Flipper? Unreal!!...not.

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 08:55 PM

I can't believe he would give up the opportunity to be on a squad that might go 6-6 and play Pittsburgh in the Belk Bowl for what, a multimillion dollar signing bonus and playing on Sundays in the NFL?? The NFL over the ACC....really Luke?? Saying bye bye to Magnum and Flipper? Unreal!!...not.


By all accounts he really struggled with the decision. One of his concerns was leaving the program after such a bad year. Ultimately the business realities won out. Good luck to Luke.

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 10:23 PM

Good for Luke. No reason to come back to the team next year and risk injury. Get paid kid. Get paid.

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 11:52 AM

i heard that the other day from a kid who is in touch with a couple of players, Can't blame Luke one bit he's a BC guy thru and thru

and lets hope this new OLine coach can fix the disaster that Devile has led the past couple years

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 12:18 PM

i heard that the other day from a kid who is in touch with a couple of players, Can't blame Luke one bit he's a BC guy thru and thru

and lets hope this new OLine coach can fix the disaster that Devile has led the past couple years


Fixing the OLine is priority #1 in my book.

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Posted 09 January 2012 - 09:19 PM

As we get ready to watch the BCS championship game, I thought it is interesting to note that these two teams had some of the highest average home gates in the BCS. Bama averaged 101,821 per home game and LSU averaged 92,868. These teams print $$$!

For BC, they averaged 35,709 per home game tickets sold in 2011. The top 10 worst home attendances for 2011 were as follows:


1. Duke- 24,393
2. Washington State-28,791
3. Wake-31,967
4. Cincy- 32,293
5. Vandy- 32,873
6. Northwestern-33,442
7. BC-35,709
8 .UConn-36,668
9. Cal 37,657*
10. Syracuse-40,504

It should be noted Cal played at AT&T Park in San Francisco this year while their satdium underwent renovations. In 2009 and 2010 they averaged about 58,000 per game so if you take them out, then #10 would be Baylor at 41,368.

I compared the average home attendance of the BE and ACC and found that the BE average home date had 43,606 while the ACC had 51,363 . Rutgers had 43,761 average attendance so they got the BE median award. Miami came closest to the league average with 48,654. How do you compete year in and year out when even Rutgers, USF and Louisville are outdrawing you? In your own conference the most BC has avergaed at the gate in the last few years was a hair over 38,000. It makes you wonder if we have seen the last of really competitive temas in Chestnut Hill for a long time.

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Posted 12 January 2012 - 08:56 PM

Boston College defensive end Max Holloway announced Thursday that he will declare for the NFL draft.



http://bcblog.weei.c...nter-nfl-draft/

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Posted 13 January 2012 - 12:49 PM

Boston College defensive end Max Holloway announced Thursday that he will declare for the NFL draft.



http://bcblog.weei.c...nter-nfl-draft/


Dumb move on the kid's part. However I think it may speak more to the status of the program than it does to the talent level of Holloway. I see him as a mid to late round pick. He could use anotehr year of college. Maybe the staff told him to screw?? Just thinkig out loud.

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Posted 13 January 2012 - 04:09 PM

Dumb move on the kid's part. However I think it may speak more to the status of the program than it does to the talent level of Holloway. I see him as a mid to late round pick. He could use anotehr year of college. Maybe the staff told him to screw?? Just thinkig out loud.


He's going to graduate this year. If it were me, I'd be going after the free year of graduate classes but if he doesn't want to go that route, might as well declare now. He's not an NFL player whether he leaves this year or stays 1 more.

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 12:53 AM

Always known for selective enforcement, the NCAA has some explaining to do regarding their denial of Ifeanyi Momah's 6th year of eligibility. Compare his case to two more prominent players who received an extra year of playing time.


Following on the decommitment of Sam Grant, running back Akeel Lynch announced that he will not be attending BC. With Jaxon Hood taking other visits and Steven Daniels rumored to be having NCAA admissions issues, Spaz finds himself with multiple holes in his already small recruiting class.


Things looking good! via ATL

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 08:57 AM

Well at least the next coach will legitimately have a bare cupboard. These last two classes have been brutal and this one is going to be an all-time worst.

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 12:49 PM

I find it funny that our glorious AD inducts himself into the BC HoF while his hand-picked coach is about to finish pouring the dirt on the BC football program. We haven't even reached the bottom yet.

People like me were criticized as being too negative when we railed against Spaz early on. Looks like we were right. Spaz' guys are now in the program...and they suck.

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 01:35 PM

Strictly a rumor mill, from people in the athletic program (OK, the BC Varsity Club) but it is being talked about that Spaz needs at least 7 wins next year to keep his job. The schedule next year is just about the same as this year. The tentative line up is: HOME Maine SBCC Army Clemson Maryland Miami Va Tech ROAD Northwestern FSU Ga Tech Wake NC State Does anyone realistically see 7 wins there?? And if as Kenney says Spaz ends up with 3 bad recruiting classes how does 2013 stack up when you replace SBCC with USC, add on Syracuse as a league opponent and North Carolina in place of the Canes. Looks like a long time before the corner is turned.

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 02:07 PM

Well at least the next coach will legitimately have a bare cupboard. These last two classes have been brutal and this one is going to be an all-time worst.


I assume this means you think 2010, and 2011 were brutal, and 2012 is an all time worst?

I won't fight on 2012, especially when we don't know what the final makeup of the class will be.

But 2010, and 2011 were hardly brutal classes. If anything they were average to above average by BC standards

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 02:26 PM

I don't think too much of 2011. 2010 sucked but that was more because of the transition. We did decent in terms of LB last year, though the best recruit (Daniels) will never step on campus in all likelihood. We did decent on the DL and probably could've done better on the OL. Suntrup was a good get. Of course, the three big areas of need (secondary, RB, WR) we got ALJ and Spiffy and nothing else of note, and of course there was talk of Spiffy transferring. Sure it wasn't brutal and may have been average in terms of stars or whatever, but for actual need it was an absolutely brutal.

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 03:00 PM

I don't think too much of 2011. 2010 sucked but that was more because of the transition. We did decent in terms of LB last year, though the best recruit (Daniels) will never step on campus in all likelihood. We did decent on the DL and probably could've done better on the OL. Suntrup was a good get. Of course, the three big areas of need (secondary, RB, WR) we got ALJ and Spiffy and nothing else of note, and of course there was talk of Spiffy transferring. Sure it wasn't brutal and may have been average in terms of stars or whatever, but for actual need it was an absolutely brutal.


2010 brought in
Rettig, has played well at times, but needs a major step forward
Swigert, solid receiver
Amidon, fast, but very raw still as a receiver
Divitto, Starter all last year and played well after contributing as a true Frosh
CJ Jones, played a ton as a frosh and played well, was injured last year
KPL, just an abolute stud at LB
Galik, started at time last year, NEEDS to get bigger
Sylvia showed some good last year, but needs a lot of work
There are a few other OL who have seen limited play but people really like Vardardo, Williams, Bettencourt

2011 brought in
Suntrup
Asprilla, played very well as a true frosh
Duggan, played very well in a reserve roll the second half of last year
Spiffy, very much a question mark
Keys, shows some skill and contributed a bit as a frosh
Lifka, didn't play as a Frosh as he was behing Keeks and they could redshirt him, but MVP of the scout team
ALJ. Somewhat dissapointing for a 4 star, but still has a ton of upside
Mihalek, and Abdesmad both flashed as true froshes, but need technique and weight room time
RIcchi was a load in the middle of the DL already
Rositino played very well at times.

And most of the best players in the class never saw the field because of injuries or positional depth (Miller Wujciak, Borcich, etc)

the 2010/2011 classes were basically the core of the team last year. No admittedly it wasn't a great team, but as a group they improved a lot during the year.

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 03:10 PM

I wouldn't particularly consider Sylvia a positive. He was a lowly regarded recruit who played like one. Keyes was okay and Rositino was fast but it has yet to be seen if he's a good football player. Of course, only one of the people mentioned above is an actual WR or RB and he has his issues. So this basically means we have whiffed on offensive skill positions sans TE and the secondary is filled with a bunch of lightly regarded guys who struggled mightily when thrown into the fire and a guy who is coming off of season-ending surgery. Of course the nickel back has no use in a Spaz defense so I may ultimately be bitching about nothing but in the areas where BC is the weakest they have whiffed and done so horribly so.

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 06:18 PM

You don't get to where BC wants to go (BCS game) without having multiple "elite" players at different positions. Where are our "elite" players from the 2010-2012 recruiting classes? Kevin Pierre-Louis is getting close but isn't at that level. Everyone else? I just don't see it. You're going to need to see SIGNIFICANT improvement from the players in these classes for them to be the foundation of a successful team.

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 06:37 PM

Good luck getting another QB recruit like Rettig anytime soon, given the way they've totally wasted his career.

The recruiting classes are not getting any better anytime soon either, and you can thank Spaz for that - dwelling on his first two classes is pointless, as he was still drawing on the Matt Ryan-era sheen. He has been an unmitigated disaster, second only to his boss Eugene.

Fuck, this is depressing.

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 07:44 PM

You don't get to where BC wants to go (BCS game) without having multiple "elite" players at different positions. Where are our "elite" players from the 2010-2012 recruiting classes? Kevin Pierre-Louis is getting close but isn't at that level. Everyone else? I just don't see it. You're going to need to see SIGNIFICANT improvement from the players in these classes for them to be the foundation of a successful team.


BSF-Your points are well taken except your baselline assumption is flawed. BC does not WANT to go to a BCS game. They desire to go. If they wanted to go they never would have hired Spaz as the HC and once Toby righted the ship, say 2003 or so, they would have told TOBY to get the team to a BCS bowl by say 2005 or he was done...and then gone out and hired someone who could get them there and support them in the process (...calling Mark Whipple, calling Mike London, calling Paul Johnson, etc.). They did none of that. Yes, will BC go to the Orange Bowl? Absolutely if they catch lightning in a bottle (Matty Ice circa 2007) or if they slip through the cracks of a weak ACC ( can you say Wake Forest??). But that is the only way you will ever see BC in the BCS.

BC's mission is to have 7-5, 8-4 records, go to the Idaho Spuds Bowl and beat a team like either Boise (before Boise becomes a Boise), or Southern Miss who is a forever a pretender, like BC, or a team that misfires that year, like Michigan State in the Champs Bowl or Arizona State a few years ago. Honestly they don't have the resources or the internal will to make the push into a perennial BCS contender. In fact, I honestly think they are afraid to do it. If they had a BCS caliber football team or basketball team for that matter, the pressure would be there to contnually meet those expectations. BC could not do it. It is in the the DNA of that athletic department, under GDF, to accept mediocrity. He has never touched hockey and it is a power house. He claims to be a football coach and the program has had two (2) bad hires under his watch and the team has markedly regressed. No, I would not say BC wants to go to the BCS. They wish to go, but like anything in life, if you really want something, you have to strive and work for it. BC football, at least under the GDF watch has shown me they do not want to work for it.

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Posted 19 January 2012 - 07:33 AM

i dont know if you guy have been following Steve Lively's crusade to oust the shithead that we know as GDF, but after the email that copied just about every media outlet and thru the race card into play, a statement was made by Jack Dunn

Steve Lively’s letter regarding Athletic Director Gene DeFilippo is perplexing and unfortunate, and filled with irresponsible and baseless claims. It has caused a number of people, including several of Steve’s former football teammates, to express concern for him and his judgment.



Under Gene’s leadership, the BC Athletics program has remained true to its traditions and the pursuit of excellence. Boston College has one of the highest student-athlete graduation rates in the country, its athletics facilities have been upgraded significantly, and its athletes have succeeded on the field and in service to the wider community.



Gene DeFilippo has the confidence, respect and support of countless members of the Boston College community, including University President Fr. William Leahy, as well as colleagues in intercollegiate athletics throughout the United States.


there are rumors about Leahy moving on in the near future, I think he has done a good job, and had huge 'skates' (Monan's nickname for you young'uns) to fill. My biggest fear when he came from Marquete was that he'd downgrade sports, like HC did. Well that didn't directly happen, but by letting little Napolean run amuk it has anyway, at least with the two biggest money makers

if Leahy leaving paves the way for GDF's shitcanning, pack your bags Bill, youre history

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Posted 19 January 2012 - 10:04 AM

Good luck getting another QB recruit like Rettig anytime soon, given the way they've totally wasted his career.

The recruiting classes are not getting any better anytime soon either, and you can thank Spaz for that - dwelling on his first two classes is pointless, as he was still drawing on the Matt Ryan-era sheen. He has been an unmitigated disaster, second only to his boss Eugene.

Fuck, this is depressing.


Well they have one from last year in Christian Suntrup. In many ways a more solid recruit coming out of high school than Rettig.

I agree with most of the folks on here that this is bad and likely Spaz's last year. However, if you were to be a Spaz apologist (in the past I have been out of mostly hope for the program) the argument would go like this.

"The failure of Jags recruiting in his final year forced Spaz to restock the cupboard with true BC OL and TEs. He was also required to take chances on the defensive line which flamed out or weren't able to remain on staff. He also left Spaz without any QB. In the last two years Spaz is playing HIS guys even though they are young. He focused on bringing in the types of players he wanted irrespective of ranking. He chose to bite the bullet last year in hopes that the younger guys (Fr/Soph in particular) would turn the corner next year with an 8-9 win season."

Do I believe that the above is possible? Maybe a 1 in 10 chance. Do I hope? Yes because I'd rather the see the ship turned and then a smooth transition in a year or two rather than blowing the whole thing up and treating the football team like I am this year with BBall. I am enjoying the BBall season and very optomistic but I don't want to see a wholesale rebuild in football.

It's a shame we are where we are really.

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Posted 19 January 2012 - 10:18 AM

Ultimately it all goes back to blaming Jags for all ills bestowed upon the BC program.

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Posted 19 January 2012 - 10:20 AM

We all know Spaz's results on the field. But it's his results off the field that are most troubling. He's at the point where his recruiting classes should be at their apex...and he just pulled in one of the worst classes we've seen in a long time. So, now we're dealing with a bad coach AND bad talent. That's a bad recipe. Unfortuntately, in college, there is no lottery pick to look forward to. You can stay at the bottom as long as you're willing to put up with an incompetent regime.

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Posted 19 January 2012 - 10:52 AM

Ultimately it all goes back to blaming Jags for all ills bestowed upon the BC program.


If you are going to make an excuse for Spaz ... you'd have to. While I do think Jags had a lot to do with some of the problem, GDF shares a lot of blame here as well. My hypothetical above was just that. It's the only alibi Spaz "would" have.

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Posted 19 January 2012 - 03:29 PM

If you are going to make an excuse for Spaz ... you'd have to. While I do think Jags had a lot to do with some of the problem, GDF shares a lot of blame here as well. My hypothetical above was just that. It's the only alibi Spaz "would" have.

Oh I totally agree and knew what you were trying to do. I just find it funny when people try to paint one scapegoat when really it's largely a combo of Jags, Spaz and GDF, among other smaller players (I'm looking in your direction, Sean Devine).

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Posted 20 January 2012 - 10:37 AM

2010 brought in Rettig, has played well at times, but needs a major step forward Swigert, solid receiver Amidon, fast, but very raw still as a receiver Divitto, Starter all last year and played well after contributing as a true Frosh CJ Jones, played a ton as a frosh and played well, was injured last year KPL, just an abolute stud at LB Galik, started at time last year, NEEDS to get bigger Sylvia showed some good last year, but needs a lot of work There are a few other OL who have seen limited play but people really like Vardardo, Williams, Bettencourt 2011 brought in Suntrup Asprilla, played very well as a true frosh Duggan, played very well in a reserve roll the second half of last year Spiffy, very much a question mark Keys, shows some skill and contributed a bit as a frosh Lifka, didn't play as a Frosh as he was behing Keeks and they could redshirt him, but MVP of the scout team ALJ. Somewhat dissapointing for a 4 star, but still has a ton of upside Mihalek, and Abdesmad both flashed as true froshes, but need technique and weight room time RIcchi was a load in the middle of the DL already Rositino played very well at times. And most of the best players in the class never saw the field because of injuries or positional depth (Miller Wujciak, Borcich, etc) the 2010/2011 classes were basically the core of the team last year. No admittedly it wasn't a great team, but as a group they improved a lot during the year.


Where to start with this. I will say that the recruiting class in 2010 was not bad - there was also a very nice top of the class. However, it was in no way some sort of great class. The 2011 class, while early seems even weaker.

For 2010 - Rettig and Swigert are good recruits offensively. Gallik may have played a bit last year - but he was truly terrible while on the field. When he wasnt messing up assignments, he was getting pancaked by opposing DL. Vardaro seems to be strong but like Gallik often didnt exactly seem to know what he was doing out there. Amidon is small and while he wasnt a complete waste of a scholarship, hes not terribly useful - he can basically take handoffs and run 1 route in the tree. You say hes raw - I say that after two full playing seasons, players shouldn't be "raw" anymore. I hold out hope for Bettancourt who was one of the better recruits at the time but not beating out Cleary for the RT job doesnt exactly scream great player to me. 2012 will be a huge year for him in particular, if he cant beat out Cleary during the spring/summer, I wont be too optimistic. Andre Williams seemed to show something as a freshman and then seemingly regressed in 2011.

The 2010 defensive class looks considerably better - KPL ill certainly give you is a great LB. CJ Jones looks to be a solid corner and Appiah came on very strong the second half of 2011 - to the point that he was the best DL on the team. Sylvia can hit like a truck but barely move - I hold out hope for him but hes the only safety on the team I have hope for (unless they move Noel back, which they should). Steele Divitto was also a nice get and will be a solid SLB for the next two years.

However thats really the entirety of the production from the 2010 class to date and numerous players have really shown little to nothing:
Betancourt
Bordner
Darmstatter
Kramer
Mcaffrey
Dominique Williams
Harris Wiliams
Shakim Phillips (transferred)
Thats 8 players out of the 21 taken and this is realistically the best full class Spaz has put together. Ultimately to be a good team you need to be getting more out of your classes

Now its much earlier for the 2011 class but the guys who flashed as freshman:
Duggan
Mihalik
Keyes - I actually like him especially as sub rusher/niche guy when they play 4 LB sets
ALJ - showed a lot of athleticism but a penchant for not being able to tackle. Thankfully that can be corrected and the athleticism is deeply needed in a now Fletcher-less secondary

After that I'm not really going to go through the full '11 class because they just havent played enough. I pretty much feel like guys after 2 years, especially if they have 2 playing seasons (e.g. going into true junior year) are pretty much what they are going to become, with a notable exception at QB. Every other position should have showed the ability to contribute at a high level and quite frankly I just dont see enough of it to call this class much of anything beyond historical average. Just wondering, have you looked at the '12 class? Because it truly is a complete trainwreck.

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Posted 20 January 2012 - 12:32 PM

i dont know if you guy have been following Steve Lively's crusade to oust the shithead that we know as GDF, but after the email that copied just about every media outlet and thru the race card into play, a statement was made by Jack Dunn



there are rumors about Leahy moving on in the near future, I think he has done a good job, and had huge 'skates' (Monan's nickname for you young'uns) to fill. My biggest fear when he came from Marquete was that he'd downgrade sports, like HC did. Well that didn't directly happen, but by letting little Napolean run amuk it has anyway, at least with the two biggest money makers

if Leahy leaving paves the way for GDF's shitcanning, pack your bags Bill, youre history


Below is the email sent to GDF by Stve Lively the other night that Moose is talking about. Take it for what it is, but I think if you cut otthe chase, he is giving specifics to our discussions about the Godfathaw being a despot:

January 16, 2012
Gene DeFillippo Athletic Director Boston College 140 Commonwealth Ave. Chestnut Hill, MA

Gene,
You asked me to meet with you many years ago at your office to “say hello!” I had just given BC a donation and you were at the incubator stage of what today is the Athletic Development Office under your administration. I was surprised when you told me you wanted me to pay back the full scholarship I had received from Boston College years earlier.
You told me I owed Boston College for what the university had done for me. You then opened a leather- bound binder containing the names of my parents, along with a commitment to endow a scholarship of $250K to the university (athletic department). You mentioned that the money I had given was not enough. I told you then that I thought you should not be in the business on fundraising. I told you I would not sign such a pledge, and as I was leaving, you suggested that I contact two other former teammates and ask them to give money to the program. Shortly thereafter you were successful in your process to begin a new revenue source to the Athletic Department when Dave Nugent committed a substantial pledge.

I think this is where the wheel came off the wagon for our athletic program. The genesis of what is outlined in this communication to you began many years ago. My thought leaving your office was, “Does Gene get a piece of this as part of his compensation?”

Martin Luther King, Jr. said “Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.” Your tenure as the Boston College Athletics Director is a remarkable example of the point made by Dr. King. Boston College needs to correct an intolerable situation. It is time that either you leave Boston College as the Athletic Director on your own accord or be forced out.
You were offered the stewardship of an incredible sports legacy. What you have done is nothing short of tragic. You have created a culture of fear throughout the Athletic Department.

My findings:
1.You have misused power.
2.You are abusive to employees and alum.
3.You shifted away from a traditional Athletic Director’s role to a role of sports fundraiser.
4.You instituted $1,000 surcharges for the right to keep season tickets & ever increasing parking fees destroying an incredible fan base (you financially insulted the fan base of Boston College).
5.You came up with a phony alibi that Boston is a professional sports town and that it is hard for
BC to survive.
6.You have instituted budget cuts that resulted in quality issues in the Athletic Department.
7.You have fired successful coaches to either keep operating budgets down and/or because they developed a national persona.
8.You have poor relationships with head coaches.
9.You overwork and under pay important providers in your staff.
10.You have caused two major sports programs to decline -- the big money makers.
11.You bullying & intimidate (“If I have to kiss Father Leahy’s ass you better be kissing mine!”).
12. You forced coaches to be a part of your noon walks “to show loyalty to you!”
13. You need to feel empowered by stating that “I am a Father Leahy guy.” 14. You need to ‘create’ an appearance of power using Father Leahy.
15. Your emotions result in your offering ‘Mea Culpa(s)’
16. You caused big donors to walk away from Boston College as a result of the profanity you directed at them in a face-to-face meeting
17. You placed a clear focus on money at the expense of reason and the well being of Boston College athletes.
18. You use of profanity.
19. You state: “I pay these coaches!”
20. You need to feel self empowered by stating “I will be here as long as I wish to be or longer than
you!”
21. You control the board that nominates and votes people into the Football Hall of Fame. You voted
yourself into the Hall of Fame.
22. What many say is your legacy as Boston College Athletic Director:
a.You tarnished Boston College’s public image.
b.You tarnished Father Leahy’s image.
c.You tarnished Boston College sports image.
d.You tarnished the Boston College brand.
e.You caused decline in the fan base of Boston College.
f.You created a revolving door of head coaches (no proper vetting and no prior head
coaching experience) (you make a fortune).
g.You have caused a steady decline in alumni financial support.
h.You have caused a sense of helplessness on the part of BC Alum, friends and families.
i.You have caused the sense that it’s totally about money!
j.You have caused a decline in staff diversity.
k.You caused the creation of a bureaucracy (Athletic Development Office) at the expense
of the staff, Student-Athletes and our fan base.
23. Propensity to personalize your emotional view to the detriment of Boston College, football alum and with relationships with former BC coaches.
24. Public Blunder - Source: http://communityvoices.sites.post-gazet ... ports/bob-smiziks-blog/30394-despite-vendetta-by-bc-athletic-director-uconn-still-might-gain-acc- memebership :
 ”Boston College Athletic Director Gene DeFilippo is clearly sorry he made the astonishingly candid quotes about why he kept Connecticut out of the ACC, which helped Pitt get in. But the comments stand, and in the end UConn still could gain ACC membership and DeFilippo could be out of a job.”
 “On Tuesday morning, it also was clear either (A) DeFilippo stood as one of the great whistle-blowers in major college athletics or (B) he had de-filipped his lid. By late Tuesday afternoon, after he had apologized for saying ESPN told the league to add Pittsburgh and Syracuse, it was clear DeFilippo again chose (B)”
 DeFilippo said he "spoke inappropriately and erroneously regarding ESPN's role in conference expansion."
 “How do you miss so badly on such a big and important topic? Isn't this a serious indictment of his judgment? Or is he backing down from the truth to save his job? The real powers in the ACC are not pleased with DeFilippo for agitating the giant
four-lettered beast of Bristol and they shouldn't be for rubbing UConn's face in his temporary triumph.”
 “The shock is not that ESPN, which denied DeFilippo's assertions, would exert some influence; it's that one of the BC’S Athletic Directors would boldly announce his school is doing what ESPN tells him to. It introduces questions about collusion and business practices.”
I http://www.bc.edu/cl...als/therapy.mov. I had to ask myself, “what kind of university executive creates such a self promoting video?” It was like watching former presidential candidate Michael Dukakis riding atop the tank when he ran for President. The Dukakis video, as does ‘your’ video, raised significant red flags and a question, “do I want that guy to represent me?” The answer to so many BC Eagles is hell no ? time to go!

I recall being at a BC football game many years ago. I, along with other BC football alum, was in President Leahy’s box. I was standing next to President Leahy when you ran over to me and placed your head on my chest and said “I love you!” I asked you to take your head off of my chest. Today, many years later I see that it was all about theatre to President Leahy, your video is proof of that!

This is about your record, Gene, and what is documented and what else is going to come out of what will happen in the next few days and months. People are going to feel empowered and protected because for so many of us this communication is liberating. There are protections for employees at the state and federal levels. Once employees hear of these protections they can speak freely knowing that a growing chorus will tell of their experiences working under your leadership!

What I loved about BC was its incredible sense of loyalty to its employees and the people of Boston spanning out across New England. It was a place where you could bring your family and feel a part of something larger than one’s self. You moved the focus from the teachings of Christ and fellowship to ‘it is all about money!” You, Gene DeFillippo, brought in an era of profound self serving behavior and greed at the expense of a historic sports legacy and its athletes.

I see someone who knows he has wronged people around him and in the greater community including our athletes, their families, our sport alumni, our cherished Golden Eagles fan base, our students and former coaches. Former Men’s Basketball Coach Al Skinner, with a record of 210-137 (.605 in 11 years), was fired, Women’s Basketball Coach Cathy Inglese, with a record of 359-225 (.627 in 20 years) was fired. And we all know what Head Football Coach Tom O’Brien accomplished. Then there was the firing of Former Head Football Coach Jeff Jagodzinski was it a “difference of vision for the future” or was it “disloyalty?” All these winning coaches gone!

These coaches are people of impeccable credentials and yet you have done an injustice to them all. You have made seriously hurtful comments to people in an attempt to show you have power. You wish to belittle those who are helpless because they need a job or their children may one day wish to attend Boston College. You have abused your power in a way that has left a significant trail ? one that is verifiable.

Gene, did you make the comment that you always have to ‘keep one in your back pocket’ in reference to the hiring of an African-American women’s basketball coach? Was this why Al Skinner was fired.....a private policy of only one African-American head coach at a time? Is/was there diversity on your staff? What was it like for the former African-American BC football alum working with you to diversify your staff? There are so many issues and, because of these issue, there are numerous BC football alum who no longer associate with BC.

saw this video and thought to myself how tragic:
By the way Gene, Al Skinner is not lazy. He was focused on winning and high graduation rates (like Cathy Inglese and Tom O’Brien) for his athletes. Like many coaches past and present, they do not want to have to treat you like you are a deity. Coach O’Brien did your ‘walks’ to get exercise, not to support you like you were the president of Boston College. Al Skinner was the wrong guy to slap that stereotype on! The ‘lazy’ story was concocted by less than a handful; then pushed into the media. I will deal with the Board of Trustees directly on this. Watch yourself in this video, your body language tells a far different story than your words:


You blew up the basketball fan base with your donor seating plan. You financially insulted a population focused on Boston College basketball. The question I and so many have is, how are you compensated? Do you make money ‘personally’ from the Athletic Development Office operation above and beyond your base pay? I feel this along with what I have stated above is why you fired these great coaches. If these coaches had received new contracts, would you have made less because operational costs would increase or would you continue to push out the Ferna Phillips of the world and hire cheap labor to offset the increase?

To protect the interest(s) of African-Americans at Boston College and ‘all’ those of prospective student athletes under consideration from the various sports programs, I am corresponding with organizations that are motivated to have the truth revealed about your lack of effort regarding diversity.

Your intent was to show President Leahy that you could bring home the bacon, but in so doing you stepped outside the bounds of integrity.

CC:
Boston College Board of Trustees
President Leahy Boston College
WHDH Boston
Diana Morris, President Black Student Forum Boston College
NECN
Nwando Ofokansi AHANA Caucus Representative Director of Social & Political Action Black Student Forum Boston College
The Boston Globe The Boston Herald
Dr. Ines Maturana Sendoya Director, Office of AHANA Student Programs Boston College
The Boston College Chapter of the NAACP BOSTON COLLEGE
The Boston Herald ESPN WFSB (CT)
Michael Caprio Editor-in-Chief The HEIGHTS Boston College
Paul Sulzer Sports Editor The HEIGHTS Boston College
Jason Whitlock Sports Writer
Brenda Henry-Brown & Andy Petigny, Co-chairs Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr Memorial Committee Boston College
Dr. Akua Sarr & Carolyn Jupiter- McIntosh, Co- Chair's Black Faculty, Staff, Administrators Group Boston College
Dan Bunch, Director Learning- to- Learn Program Boston College

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Posted 20 January 2012 - 04:33 PM

If I didn't know Steve Lively was a real person, I'd have thought Gene created him to make everyone who wants Coach Flip out seem like a nutcase. That letter does not help the cause.

Of course, Dunn's response wasn't exactly brilliant either.

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Posted 28 January 2012 - 01:39 PM

A new low point?

The Boston College football recruiting class took a hit when Catholic Memorial running back/defensive back Donovan Henry decommitted and will run track at Northeastern.


http://bostonherald....t-northeastern/

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Posted 29 January 2012 - 10:55 AM

no the low point will be LOI day on Wed, as Spaz and GDF sit by the fax machine waiting for letters that will not come,

we're fucked for years even after these two assholes leave :barf:

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 01:45 PM

No 33 TE prospect in the country Giacone switches from Rutgers to BC. Takes a bit of the sting away from the Grant switch.

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 02:09 PM

No 33 TE prospect in the country Giacone switches from Rutgers to BC. Takes a bit of the sting away from the Grant switch.



Dave, pardon my stupid question on this one....is that the #33 overall recruit in the country or the #33 ranked TE in the country, meaning there are 32 TE's that are supossedly better than him. Either way not a bad pick up but still, assuming it is the latter, not a whole lot of excitement in the long run, IMHO.



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