[embecker]

I've been searching, but have been unable to find the major league record or leaders list for career walkoff home runs or hits. Anyone have this info?

I'm also wondering whether anyone has ever bothered to calculate the number of walkoff opportunities each player has had, which would allow for a walkoff efficiency ratio.

I'm having a hard time imagining that Ortiz is not among an elite few in the category. It's just staggering.

[Phil Nevin 23]

embecker, on Jun 27 2006, 01:29 AM, said:

I've been searching, but have been unable to find the major league record or leaders list for career walkoff home runs or hits. Anyone have this info?

I'm also wondering whether anyone has ever bothered to calculate the number of walkoff opportunities each player has had, which would allow for a walkoff efficiency ratio.

I'm having a hard time imagining that Ortiz is not among an elite few in the category. It's just staggering.
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I would imagine this would be quite the research project since such statistics were not kept separate for a good, long while. However, if you could penetrate this subject with actual information, it would be quite valuable to many. Good luck. Sorry I can't help.

[HillysLastWalk]

edit: scratch that, I think it was just active players. Which Ortiz is 4th.

But I did quickly find this blog that lists the top 10 all time:

Most Walk-Off Home Runs, Career:

Jimmie Foxx……….12
Mickey Mantle……. 12
Stan Musial……….. 12
Frank Robinson……12
Babe Ruth………….12
Tony Perez…………11
Dick Allen…………..10
Harold Baines …….10
Reggie Jackson……10
Mike Schmidt ……..10

So, Ortiz is 4 away from the career leader. But Ortiz has done this in, what?, 3-4 years (his 8)? Greatest clutch hitter in Red Sox history.

This post has been edited by HillysLastWalk: 26 June 2006 - 09:41 PM

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HillysLastWalk, on Jun 26 2006, 10:25 PM, said:

edit: scratch that, I think it was just active players.  Which Ortiz is 4th.

But I did quickly find this blog that lists the top 10 all time:

Most Walk-Off Home Runs, Career:

Jimmie Foxx……….12
Mickey Mantle……. 12
Stan Musial……….. 12
Frank Robinson……12
Babe Ruth………….12     
Tony Perez…………11
Dick Allen…………..10
Harold Baines …….10
Reggie Jackson……10
Mike Schmidt ……..10

So, Ortiz is 4 away from the career leader.  But Ortiz has done this in, what?, 3-4 years (his 8)?  Greatest clutch hitter in Red Sox history.
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Ortiz has 9, if you count the one he hit in 2002 with the Twins (against the Indians).

[Eric Van]

Sox are hitting .318 / .444 / .773 in 27 potential walk-off PA.

Of course, that's misleading, because Papi is 3-4, 2 HR, IBB, and Loretta is 2-3, 2B, HR, BB, and everyone else is 2-15 with 3 BB (the 2 hits being Cora and Youkilis in the last two games).

[embecker]

HillysLastWalk, on Jun 26 2006, 10:25 PM, said:

edit: scratch that, I think it was just active players.  Which Ortiz is 4th.

But I did quickly find this blog that lists the top 10 all time:

Most Walk-Off Home Runs, Career:

Jimmie Foxx……….12
Mickey Mantle……. 12
Stan Musial……….. 12
Frank Robinson……12
Babe Ruth………….12     
Tony Perez…………11
Dick Allen…………..10
Harold Baines …….10
Reggie Jackson……10
Mike Schmidt ……..10

So, Ortiz is 4 away from the career leader.  But Ortiz has done this in, what?, 3-4 years (his 8)?  Greatest clutch hitter in Red Sox history.
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Nice find, HLW. Thanks. The more interesting number is probably walk off hits, but I imagine that's even harder to dig up.

The surprises on that list are Harold Baines, despite his longevity, and Dick Allen. But otherwise, a truly elite gang.

[NortheasternPJ]

Jimmie Foxx……….12 ...8134 AB, 458 HR
Mickey Mantle……. 12...8102 AB, 536 HR
Stan Musial……….. 12...10972 AB, 475 HR
Frank Robinson……12...10006 AB, 586 HR
Babe Ruth………….12 ...8398 AB, 714 HR
Tony Perez…………11... 9778 AB, 379 HR
Dick Allen…………..10... 6332 AB, 351 HR
Harold Baines …….10....9908 AB, 438 HR
Reggie Jackson……10...9864 AB, 563 HR
Mike Schmidt ……..10...8352 AB, 548 HR
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David Ortiz ........ 9....3108 AB 177 HR

I couldn't find Walk-off AB's but used career totals instead. Seems Papi is doing it at much higher rate than others.

[PedroKsBambino]

Is that regular season only or inclusive of post-season?

[DamonasaNomad]

embecker, on Jun 27 2006, 08:34 AM, said:

Nice find, HLW. Thanks. The more interesting number is probably walk off hits, but I imagine that's even harder to dig up.

The surprises on that list are Harold Baines, despite his longevity, and Dick Allen. But otherwise, a truly elite gang.
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Um -- does this suggest that Dick Allen, he of the 156 OPS+ and arguably the greatest hitter of the post-Black Sox era to be excluded from the HoF (Rose me no Roses!), is not part of the "elite gang"? He certainly was as good a hitter as either Schmidt or Reggie (147 and 139 OPS+ respectively); and Baines (120) was about as good as Perez (122)!


EDIT: Not surprisingly, NPJ's list shows Richie with the highest rate of walkoffs per at bat (ahead of Mantle), other than Papi.

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PedroKsBambino, on Jun 27 2006, 09:05 AM, said:

Is that regular season only or inclusive of post-season?
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Those look like regular season numbers.

Foxx, 4 HR in 64 postseason AB (he also hit 534 regular season HR, 458 is his career 2B line)
Mantle, 18 HR, 230 AB
Musial, 1 HR, 86 AB
FRob, 10 HR, 126 AB
Ruth, 15 HR, 129 AB
Perez, 6 HR, 172 AB
Allen, 0 HR, 9 AB (his low postseason exposure is a big reason for no HoF, justified or not. His career was also pretty short.)
Baines, 5 HR, 102 AB
Jackson, 18 HR, 281 AB
Schmidt, 4 HR, 140 AB

The list of walkoffs would include postseason, I assume. However I'm not sure the list changes for any of these guys anyway.

[DamonasaNomad]

smastroyin, on Jun 27 2006, 09:26 AM, said:

Allen, 0 HR, 9 AB (his low postseason exposure is a big reason for no HoF, justified or not.  His career was also pretty short.)
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In terms of career length, Puckett, Rizzuto, Lazzeri, Doerr, Vaughn, Boudreau, . .

Richie didn't get in because, even more than Jim Rice, he refused to osculate the rectal orifices of the media and other powers-that-be. Also, he played much of his career in a very offense-constrained era. But he was a hitter in the Manny class.

[Rudy Pemberton]

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In terms of career length, Puckett, Rizzuto, Lazzeri, Doerr, Vaughn, Boudreau, . .

Richie didn't get in because, even more than Jim Rice, he refused to osculate the rectal orifices of the media and other powers-that-be. Also, he played much of his career in a very offense-constrained era. But he was a hitter in the Manny class.

Rizzuto, Lazzeri, Doerr, and Boudreau were infielders, though (and lousy HOF choices, frankly). Several of them (as well as Puckett) also had HOF success which can push a marginal candidate over the edge. If Rice helped the Sox win a WS in '75 or '86, I think he'd be in.

I don't know if saying a guy is better than the worst HOFers means he's a HOF....as much as it means that those guys probably shouldn't be.

It's easy to say Rice isn't in because he was an ass, but it's certainly valid to think he's just not a HOF...I don't think he is.

This post has been edited by Rudy Pemberton: 27 June 2006 - 09:08 AM