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[cannonball 1729]

Damn. I was looking forward to Welker making 11 references to "rape" in a press conference next week.

[ivanvamp]

Life goes on.

Of course it does. I wrestled with this question after the SB loss vs. NYG, when I didn't get a minute of sleep that night. I wondered, why am I, who didn't play a minute of the game, and don't personally know anybody on either team...when I have no real vested interest in the game's outcome, why am I taking this so hard?

And I concluded that I was *WAY* too wrapped up in my fanhood. Ever since then, it's been a heck of a lot easier to let stuff like this go. I'm still a fan, but it's no longer my identity or my life.

Still sucks to lose, esp. to the Jets, but really, it *is* just a game.

[ivanvamp]

Double post...sorry.

Edited by ivanvamp, 16 January 2011 - 08:07 PM.

[CR67dream]

The Patriots have officially become the Atlanta Braves. The regular season means squat.

As soon as the Braves have 3 championships, asshole.

[Prodigal Sox]

Pats outgain the Jets 372-314.
Almost even in rushing (113 v. 121).
Time of Possession edge: 35 min to 25 min.
26 first downs to 14.
Better special teams: punt avg 47.0 to 36.0; punt returns: 2 for 42 v. 2 for 4; 2-2 fg v. 0-1 fg.

Reasons for the loss (IMO):

(1) Big Mistakes:
- Brady INT on their opening drive as they were marching for a TD. (loss of 3-7 points)
- Crumpler's dropped TD pass on their 2nd drive that led to a FG instead. (loss of 4 points)
- Horrible fake punt attempt, leading to the Jets' TD to put them up 14-3 before the half. (loss of 7 points)

That's 14-17 points right there that the Pats cost themselves due to big mistakes.

(2) Horrible coaching decisions:
- The fake punt. Just punt it away, hold, and go into halftime down 7-3 with the ball to start the 2nd half. Instead, they try something very unorthodox and it comes back to bite them in a big way.
- The poor clock management on their long drive in the 4th quarter. Anyone who suggests that it was a good idea to huddle up and walk to the line, as the seconds and minutes tick away, is crazy. No problem with running the ball, but you *HAVE* to hurry it up.
- On 3rd and 10 from the Jet 18, I think they should have kicked the FG right there. You needed two scores and enough time to hold the Jets down. They get the FG, they have 3 timeouts plus the two minute warning, down 7. You kick away, use one TO before the 2-minute warning, get the 2-minute warning itself, and the 2nd timeout with about 1:55 to go. You get the ball back at your own, say, 35-40, with 1:40 and one timeout to go. That's doable. Not easy, but doable.

(3) Field position:
- Average Pats' starting position: NE 28
- Average Jets' starting position: NYJ 44

Jets had 3 TD drives that started inside NE territory.

This is a good recap. They also recovered a strip sack and a Woodhead fumble. For a team that took such good care of the ball all season and the last eight games the were pretty casual today.

[Titoschew]

Watching the fourth quarter drive to nowhere, I now know what it feels like to be an Eagles fan. Down ten, yet playing like you're down seven or less. Add 460 lbs to Belichick and I would have thought it was Andy Reid.

That fake punt was the worst call in the Belichick era. It goes against everything he's ever been about.

Other than that, it was all NYJ's. Deserved to win without question, but the Patriots really need to be kicking themselves because despite being dominated, they had their chances.

[Ferm Sheller]

I'm over it. I've seen 3 SB victories and I'm confident that I'll see more. Some fans will go their entire lives without seeing their team win even one.

Nip promoted me a few days ago, so it's been a good week overall for me. Looking forward to seeing Gonzo and Crawford in a Sox uniform and the return of Pedroia any Youk...

[MiracleOfO2704]

They did every conceivable thing they could have done wrong they did wrong.

No dispute there. It's a cliche, but lose the turnover battle in the playoffs, and you will usually lose the game.

People are going to question Belichick benching Welker on the opening drive (amongst a hundred other things).

Actually, that didn't haunt them too much, except when Brady floated a screen pass into heavy traffic. So even then, that benching didn't kill them.

Also, as good as he was the last 3/4 of the season, Bill O'Brien may have lost his job. You could see Belichick screaming for a pass when they kept running (the clock) late in the game.

This needed to be addressed two seasons ago. Either put your faith in O'Brien and name him the OC or get someone in to be one. They can't let losing another assistant drive them to not hire one.

That said, this wasn't all about the pseudo-OC. Brady looked thoroughly average, and really didn't feel comfortable again until the middle of the 2nd half when the Jets stopped rushing him like Roethlisberger going after a college freshman. The usual sure-handed decision making not only wasn't there, but for most of the game, it wasn't close.

Oh, and just to point out, the Patriots' last three playoff games: 14-17, 14-33, 21-28. The trend there, ladies and gents, ISN'T the defense. I said this upthread, but it's probably time to start thinking about the guy after Brady.

[Bob Montgomery's Helmet Hat]

You don't know too many Bears fans. If I have to hear another fucking word about the 1985 Bears and how it was the greatestest team ever but also hear them talk about how they don't live in the past and whatnot I'm going to murder 10 Bears fans. They suck so much especially because many exemplify all of the Superfans stereotypes but are completely serious. My friend tried to argue that Peanut Tillman was a better player than Randy Moss because in a Vikings-Bears game Tillman intercepted a pass intended to Moss in the endzone at the end of the game. And he was dead serious. Mongoloids.

I moved here, to Chicago, in 1985. I woke up to the Super Bowl Shuffle.

I will enjoy the hell out of the Bears losing to their hated rivals and absolutely hate the Bears beating them.

[aksoxfan]

Of course it does. I wrestled with this question after the SB loss vs. NYG, when I didn't get a minute of sleep that night. I wondered, why am I, who didn't play a minute of the game, and don't personally know anybody on either team...when I have no real vested interest in the game's outcome, why am I taking this so hard?

And I concluded that I was *WAY* too wrapped up in my fanhood. Ever since then, it's been a heck of a lot easier to let stuff like this go. I'm still a fan, but it's no longer my identity or my life.

Still sucks to lose, esp. to the Jets, but really, it *is* just a game.

I am glad you have found peace....worrying about these things can actually kill you. I'm glad I spent the day skiing instead of getting all wrung out over this game....however, I am still fairly bummed about the loss.

[kenneycb]

I moved here, to Chicago, in 1985. I woke up to the Super Bowl Shuffle.

I will enjoy the hell out of the Bears losing to their hated rivals and absolutely hate the Bears beating them.

I'm 22 and all my friends wax poetic about that team like they were actually there for the Super Bowl. Words do not describe how much I absolutely hate the Bears and their irrational fans.

[ivanvamp]

So, if they get all these great draft picks, go 16-0, beat the Jets 80-0 in both games, and have to meet the Browns in the first game of the playoffs, I will still be wondering about Brady.
It's great to be there every year, but it's wearing thin, these disappointing play off losses. It's going to be about 365 days to feel better about this game. I guess it's the price of being a fan of a team with a very high performance bar.

It really is. The great 49ers team won 5 SB's from 1981-1994. That's 5 titles in 14 years. That's amazing. Of course, that's 9 years where they *didn't* win the title. Here are their non-title results:

1982 - went 3-6, didn't make the playoffs
1983 - 10-6, lost to the Redskins 24-21 in the NFCCG (at Was)
1985 - 10-6, lost to the Giants 17-3 in the wildcard round (at NYG)
1986 - 10-5-1, lost to the Giants 49-3 in the divisional round (at NYG)
1987 - 13-2, lost to the Vikings 36-24 in the divisional round (at home)
1990 - 14-2, lost to the Giants 15-13 in the NFCCG (at home)
1991 - 10-6, didn't make the playoffs
1992 - 14-2, lost to the Cowboys 30-20 in the NFCCG (at home)
1993 - 10-6, lost to the Cowboys 38-21 in the NFCCG (at Dal)

That's some excruciating exits. Four losses in the NFCCG, two of them at home. Three losses to the Giants, two to the Cowboys. Twice they got bumped in the NFCCG as the #1 seed.

I mean, geez. The greatest dynasty in league history had, during their bookend championship seasons, twice as many non-title seasons. It's very freaking hard to win a SB. EVERYTHING has to go right. One slip and you're dead. The greatest franchises on the greatest runs in league history have felt that sting. Heck, even the Steelers of the 70's had two rough exits in the middle of their 4 titles in 6 years (1976 AFCCG, loss to Oak 24-7; 1977 loss to Den 34-21 in the divisional round).

It happens.

[ivanvamp]

I am glad you have found peace....worrying about these things can actually kill you. I'm glad I spent the day skiing instead of getting all wrung out over this game....however, I am still fairly bummed about the loss.

If you're not bummed, you're not a fan. But there's a difference between being bummed (which I am) and being crushed. I understand if the guys on the Pats' team are crushed. THEY were the ones playing.

Edited by ivanvamp, 16 January 2011 - 08:21 PM.

[kenneycb]

If you're not bummed, you're not a fan. But there's a difference between being bummed (which I am) and being crushed. I understand if the guys on the Pats' team are crushed. THEY were the ones playing.

Yeah I pretty much agree with this. I mean, I was probably pretty crushed for a solid 3 minutes or so but now it's gone to more of an "Oh, well" feeling. I will say that in 2007 I was crushed and still hold on to that one but have calmed down significantly since then. Even when the Bruins choked last year it sucked for about an hour but I was able to get over it surprisingly easily. I guess very few things could be worse than the Giants SB.

Random note, but in the luxury box walkaround area at the Garden they have a wall dedicated to Rodney and have the Helmet Catch as one of his pictures. That confused me very, very, very much.

[Mystic Merlin]

Clearly the Niners from '81 through '95 were the Atlanta Braves of that period.

[Bob Montgomery's Helmet Hat]

I'm 22 and all my friends wax poetic about that team like they were actually there for the Super Bowl. Words do not describe how much I absolutely hate the Bears and their irrational fans.

To be fair, they had one of the best defenses I've ever seen. But they were a one-hit wonder and had way too much talent for that. I've always felt that they under-achieved in the scheme of things. But 25 years later, the fans don't seem to remember that part of the equation.

[Captaincoop]

Even the best teams usually have a bad week or two over the course of a season. I thought they got it out of their system in Cleveland. This one is squarely on the offense and the coaching staff. The O-line was getting manhandled until the Jets D started tiring late. Terrible playcalling. And they still weren't eliminated until almost the bitter end. It was eerily reminiscent of a certain game back in February of '08 that I still haven't gotten over, albeit not quite as bad from an emotional standpoint - Jets douchebaggery notwithstanding. Credit the Jets (especially their secondary), but this was a *colossal* wasted opportunity.

I didn't drink tonight. I wish I had. On second thought, I have a stack of work and mucho hours to bill tomorrow, so I'll take the no-hangover Monday. Life goes on.

I'm pissed that the Pats laid an egg tonight, but I'm more surprised that this team won 14 games than I am that they went one-and-out in the playoffs.

This team overachieved for three months. They have a ton of draft picks and will come back more experienced and hopefully more prepared for a playoff run.

I'll tell you what, though. Brady and Belichick have done more over the last 5-6 years to diminish their playoff legacy than I ever would have thought possible. Brady was awful today. That was the one shocking thing about this abortion of a game. No matter how much time he had, he couldn't make decisions and he couldn't make plays. Ugh.

[Al Zarilla]

It really is. The great 49ers team won 5 SB's from 1981-1994. That's 5 titles in 14 years. That's amazing. Of course, that's 9 years where they *didn't* win the title. Here are their non-title results:

1982 - went 3-6, didn't make the playoffs
1983 - 10-6, lost to the Redskins 24-21 in the NFCCG (at Was)
1985 - 10-6, lost to the Giants 17-3 in the wildcard round (at NYG)
1986 - 10-5-1, lost to the Giants 49-3 in the divisional round (at NYG)
1987 - 13-2, lost to the Vikings 36-24 in the divisional round (at home)
1990 - 14-2, lost to the Giants 15-13 in the NFCCG (at home)
1991 - 10-6, didn't make the playoffs
1992 - 14-2, lost to the Cowboys 30-20 in the NFCCG (at home)
1993 - 10-6, lost to the Cowboys 38-21 in the NFCCG (at Dal)

That's some excruciating exits. Four losses in the NFCCG, two of them at home. Three losses to the Giants, two to the Cowboys. Twice they got bumped in the NFCCG as the #1 seed.

I mean, geez. The greatest dynasty in league history had, during their bookend championship seasons, twice as many non-title seasons. It's very freaking hard to win a SB. EVERYTHING has to go right. One slip and you're dead. The greatest franchises on the greatest runs in league history have felt that sting. Heck, even the Steelers of the 70's had two rough exits in the middle of their 4 titles in 6 years (1976 AFCCG, loss to Oak 24-7; 1977 loss to Den 34-21 in the divisional round).

It happens.

Good post, but I think putting in "won super bowl" for 81, 84, 88, 89 and 94 would make it read better.

Edited by Al Zarilla, 16 January 2011 - 08:29 PM.

[ivanvamp]

Good post, but I think putting in "won super bowl" for 81, 84, 88, 89 and 94 would make it read better.

Well, I did reference their 5 sb titles at the top of the post. :-)

[shoosh77]

As currently constituted, did anyone expect them to win the SuperBowl? Especially losing Bodden and Warren before the season. Now, they outperformed expectations, and they did get a place in the dance. But their flaws were exposed (lack of pass rush, OL aging). They are going to build on this, and the important thing to focus on is the return of Bodden and Warren, not any key free agents I can think of outside the chance Mankins gets to leave, all the kids played well and should improve, and a big draft pick haul. This stings, but next year is gonna be great. In the meantime, go Sox.

[Al Zarilla]

Well, I did reference their 5 sb titles at the top of the post. :-)

Yes, just a nitpick on my part. I'm lucky to have rooted for all of the Patriots super bowl wins and all of those Niner ones as well. With those two teams rarely crossing paths, it was easy to jump on the Niners bandwagon when Walsh and Montana came on the scene. Imagine if Belichick had a quarterback in waiting like Steve Young?

[SemperFidelisSox]

Brady in his first 10 career playoff games:

10-0 record, 14 TD, 3 INT, QB rating of 91.1.

Last 9 playoff games:

4-5 record, 16 TD, 13 INT, QB rating of 80.6.

[ivanvamp]

Yes, just a nitpick on my part. I'm lucky to have rooted for all of the Patriots super bowl wins and all of those Niner ones as well. With those two teams rarely crossing paths, it was easy to jump on the Niners bandwagon when Walsh and Montana came on the scene. Imagine if Belichick had a quarterback in waiting like Steve Young?

Unlikely that they'll have a Hall of Famer succeed Brady, but they still have some time to find another quality QB for the future, if they don't think Hoyer is that guy.

[Shelterdog]

As currently constituted, did anyone expect them to win the SuperBowl? Especially losing Bodden and Warren before the season. Now, they outperformed expectations, and they did get a place in the dance. But their flaws were exposed (lack of pass rush, OL aging). They are going to build on this, and the important thing to focus on is the return of Bodden and Warren, not any key free agents I can think of outside the chance Mankins gets to leave, all the kids played well and should improve, and a big draft pick haul. This stings, but next year is gonna be great. In the meantime, go Sox.

Stop being reasonable fuckface.

At the beginning of the season most people would take this result (a division game loss at home) but things change.

Ultimately it's a very good team that played great in the regular season and poorly in the playoffs. They lost to a very good team that played well in the regular season and great in the playoffs. It's a bummer.

[ivanvamp]

Brady in his first 10 career playoff games:

10-0 record, 14 TD, 3 INT, QB rating of 91.1.

Last 9 playoff games:

4-5 record, 16 TD, 13 INT, QB rating of 80.6.

Manning-esque!

[mwonow]

Manning-esque!

yep - and like Manning this year, with the season on the line, he kept feeding the ball into the middle of the line for 3 yards and 45 seconds.

TB as a big game quarterback is a great memory. TB as 0 fer his last three is the new reality.

[shoosh77]

Stop being reasonable fuckface.

At the beginning of the season most people would take this result (a division game loss at home) but things change.

Ultimately it's a very good team that played great in the regular season and poorly in the playoffs. They lost to a very good team that played well in the regular season and great in the playoffs. It's a bummer.

That's Mr Fuckface to you.

[Mystic Merlin]

Ok, so I'd love to hear some football-related theories for why Brady has won plenty of big regular season games, but has struggled in some big playoff games.

Anyone?

[SemperFidelisSox]

The Patriots have not really addressed an aging O-line the last three years and good pass rushes have been able to get to him? '07 Giants, '09 Ravens, '10 Jets.

[shoosh77]

Ok, so I'd love to hear some football-related theories for why Brady has won plenty of big regular season games, but has struggled in some big playoff games.

Anyone?

I think the sphincter on the playcalling tightens up.

[Mystic Merlin]

The Patriots have not really addressed an aging O-line the last three years and good pass rushes have been able to get to him? '07 Giants, '09 Ravens, '10 Jets.

So what was the problem with the Steelers/Jets/Colts this year in the regular season?

[SeoulSoxFan]

I'm pissed that the Pats laid an egg tonight, but I'm more surprised that this team won 14 games than I am that they went one-and-out in the playoffs.

Thread worthy.

Edit: here it is: http://sonsofsamhorn...nning-14-games/

Edited by SeoulSoxFan, 16 January 2011 - 09:15 PM.

[Harry Hooper]

Ok, so I'd love to hear some football-related theories for why Brady has won plenty of big regular season games, but has struggled in some big playoff games.

Anyone?

Well, his OL got its collective butt kicked in the Super Bowl vs. the Giants and again today.

[Maalox]

I don't care what you say. This was an embarrassing, excruciating failure and the perpetrators of it are worthless human beings.

I refuse to be talked off this ledge.

[Mystic Merlin]

Well, his OL got its collective butt kicked in the Super Bowl vs. the Giants and again today.

This is kind of what I'm getting at.

I have a really crazy theory: he got too much credit for the SB wins and too much blame for recent losses, generally speaking.

[shawnrbu]

Ok, so I'd love to hear some football-related theories for why Brady has won plenty of big regular season games, but has struggled in some big playoff games.

Anyone?

Hit him early and it's like a different game. The only games this season I don't remember him being comfortable is the Browns, Chargers, Packers, 2nd Half of the first Jets game and today.

[Spacemans Bong]

It really is. The great 49ers team won 5 SB's from 1981-1994. That's 5 titles in 14 years. That's amazing. Of course, that's 9 years where they *didn't* win the title. Here are their non-title results:

1982 - went 3-6, didn't make the playoffs
1983 - 10-6, lost to the Redskins 24-21 in the NFCCG (at Was)
1985 - 10-6, lost to the Giants 17-3 in the wildcard round (at NYG)
1986 - 10-5-1, lost to the Giants 49-3 in the divisional round (at NYG)
1987 - 13-2, lost to the Vikings 36-24 in the divisional round (at home)
1990 - 14-2, lost to the Giants 15-13 in the NFCCG (at home)
1991 - 10-6, didn't make the playoffs
1992 - 14-2, lost to the Cowboys 30-20 in the NFCCG (at home)
1993 - 10-6, lost to the Cowboys 38-21 in the NFCCG (at Dal)

That's some excruciating exits. Four losses in the NFCCG, two of them at home. Three losses to the Giants, two to the Cowboys. Twice they got bumped in the NFCCG as the #1 seed.

I mean, geez. The greatest dynasty in league history had, during their bookend championship seasons, twice as many non-title seasons. It's very freaking hard to win a SB. EVERYTHING has to go right. One slip and you're dead. The greatest franchises on the greatest runs in league history have felt that sting. Heck, even the Steelers of the 70's had two rough exits in the middle of their 4 titles in 6 years (1976 AFCCG, loss to Oak 24-7; 1977 loss to Den 34-21 in the divisional round).

It happens.

83, 87, 90 were the excruciating ones.

83 was a bullshit PI call on Eric Wright that set up the game winning field goal to kill a vintage Montana comeback.

87 was a nightmare of a game. Anthony Carter has the game of his life, Montana has a nightmare and is pulled for Steve Young and the relationship between the two and Bill Walsh was never the same. My dad believes Walsh would have coached another 5 years if it wasn't for that game. Walsh was supposedly an absolute mess emotionally after that game.

90 was Craig fumbling the ball when the Niners just needed to run out the clock after a brutal game (as physical as the Steelers-Ravens AFCCG a couple years ago). That team wasn't as good as people thought, however (Craig's knees were shot and the Niners had an awful running game that didn't improve until Ricky Watters came around).

Edited by Spacemans Bong, 16 January 2011 - 09:18 PM.

[MarcSullivaFan]

"Since the 2005 NFL Season: Manning -- 6-5 postseason overall, 1-1 in superbowls: Brady -- 5-5 postseason over, 0-1 in superbowls."

A (cool and smart) Colts fan I went to law school with just posted this on Facebook. Just be happy you're not a Colts fan. And hell, being a Colts fan is a lot better than most of the other alternatives.

As much as the Pats' recent playoff history sucks, the fact is that none of their contemporaries have done much better. The Colts' post-season flame outs are well documented. Peppered in between and around Steelers' SB runs have been several pretty crappy/disappointing years, including 2004, last year, 2006, and 2007.

I'll never get over 2007, but I'll be over this one pretty soon.

[Al Zarilla]

Well, his OL got its collective butt kicked in the Super Bowl vs. the Giants and again today.

But even when he had time, more than once he threw to receivers who weren't even looking for the ball. Was that him or the receivers? Someone posted that Welker said they practiced like shit during the week. They carried it over to today. Speaking of Welker, let's just keep the press conference talk as bland as pablum from now on, huh? Nobody needed what he came out with.

[Al Zarilla]

83, 87, 90 were the excruciating ones.

83 was a bullshit PI call on Eric Wright that set up the game winning field goal to kill a vintage Montana comeback.

87 was a nightmare of a game. Anthony Carter has the game of his life, Montana has a nightmare and is pulled for Steve Young and the relationship between the two and Bill Walsh was never the same. My dad believes Walsh would have coached another 5 years if it wasn't for that game. Walsh was supposedly an absolute mess emotionally after that game.

90 was Craig fumbling the ball when the Niners just needed to run out the clock after a brutal game (as physical as the Steelers-Ravens AFCCG a couple years ago). That team wasn't as good as people thought, however (Craig's knees were shot and the Niners had an awful running game that didn't improve until Ricky Watters came around).

Was it after the 87 loss that Walsh said "no 7 foot tall Boston Celtic could have caught that pass", referring to an uncatchable Vikings throw that resulted in a critical PI call? I'll always remember that one.

But yeah, Pats need to get into phase two of the dynasty next year, like the 49ers did in 1988. Brady's not getting any younger.

[Harry Hooper]

But even when he had time, more than once he threw to receivers who weren't even looking for the ball. Was that him or the receivers? Someone posted that Welker said they practiced like shit during the week. They carried it over to today. Speaking of Welker, let's just keep the press conference talk as bland as pablum from now on, huh? Nobody needed what he came out with.

It looked like some of the young'uns (Woodhead, Gronk, etc.) were not making the proper reads at the line. Welcome to playoff football, kiddos.

[ivanvamp]

Was it after the 87 loss that Walsh said "no 7 foot tall Boston Celtic could have caught that pass", referring to an uncatchable Vikings throw that resulted in a critical PI call? I'll always remember that one.

But yeah, Pats need to get into phase two of the dynasty next year, like the 49ers did in 1988. Brady's not getting any younger.

Well, they have an excellent foundation for continued excellence: a great QB, solid (and young) skill players, and the youngest defense in the league that improved a lot this season. Plus 3 of the first 33 picks, and 6 in the first 3 rounds. Plus a TON of cap space.

That's a formula for a lot of good years ahead.

[Jed Zeppelin]

Can't wait to watch our guys in Hawaii!!

[SemperFidelisSox]

One good thing to come out of this game will be the eventual rule change by the competition committee regarding players faking injuries to stop the clock and allow for defensive substitutions. It was laughable what the Jets were doing. At least Bart Scott is a good enough actor to grab his ankle and make it look real. Brodney Pool just sat there on the ground and looked around.

[PeaceSignMoose]

One good thing to come out of this game will be the eventual rule change by the competition committee regarding players faking injuries to stop the clock and allow for defensive substitutions. It was laughable what the Jets were doing. At least Bart Scott is a good enough actor to grab his ankle and make it look real. Brodney Pool just sat there on the ground and looked around.

True. We just have to convince naPolian that what the Jets did adversely affects the Colts too, and it'll be easy.

That being said, let's all hope that Ben Roethlisberger rapes the Jets, like so many women in the past.

[Nator]

One good thing to come out of this game will be the eventual rule change by the competition committee regarding players faking injuries to stop the clock and allow for defensive substitutions. It was laughable what the Jets were doing. At least Bart Scott is a good enough actor to grab his ankle and make it look real. Brodney Pool just sat there on the ground and looked around.

Probably won't be many Colts fans arguing with that change.

This blows. 60-80 precent of my internet based entertainment has been derived from this team since the Red Sox playoff hopes started to die. What the hell am I supposed to do now? The C's and B's still have decades left in their seasons, and there's too much time left until pitchers and catchers.

Thanks a lot, guys. Thanks a whole lot. Jerks.

Edited by Nator, 16 January 2011 - 11:07 PM.

[bean8282]

Well fuck.

[Pandemonium67]

That fake punt was the worst call in the Belichick era. It goes against everything he's ever been about.

It was Chung who made the call. He is allowed to call for a fake when he thinks it will work. And in this case, he was probably right. Of course, there's the old catch the fucking ball issue.

If people want to blame Belichick for something, he can be blamed for giving Chung the leeway to make that call. Personally, I won't.

Had Chung not fucked it up, that could have been a great play.


edit: discussed in more detail in other thread

Edited by Pandemonium67, 16 January 2011 - 11:10 PM.

[JohntheBaptist]

Can't wait to watch our guys in Hawaii!!

I just showed my brother this post and it literally almost made him choke up. I can't stop laughing.

I mean, seriously, I know it's not funny. But it is my brother.