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#101 joe dokes

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Posted 14 July 2011 - 09:15 AM

For all the guy's failings as a baseball player, I agree with you that there's few things more exciting than seeing him absolutely launch one. He's got to put on some kind of a show in BP.

Yes he does.
I was in standing room on the Monster when WMP was with Cin. I think it was '05. He hit one in BP that took off like a combination of a 1-iron and a SAM. It cleared the Monster seats, but went under the Volvo sign, where it hit someone (only in the arm) a few feet away. If memory serves he butchered a ball in RF in that game as well.

#102 SemperFidelisSox


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Posted 14 July 2011 - 06:45 PM

Wily Mo DFA

#103 genivive

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Posted 14 July 2011 - 07:54 PM

Wily Mo DFA

.196/.196/.522

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#104 czar


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Posted 14 July 2011 - 08:07 PM

.196/.196/.522


I mean, how can you DFA a guy when 56% of his hits are HRs?!

Love the 19/0 K/BB rate, too.

#105 Bob's up sick

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Posted 28 July 2011 - 12:08 AM

Our beloved Josh Bard was the DH for the Mariners on 7/21. Josh Bard of the career .310 wOBA.

And that was not a first: he DH'd once with the 2007 San Diego Padres. Amazing.

Edited by Bob's up sick, 28 July 2011 - 12:16 AM.


#106 cwright

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Posted 28 July 2011 - 12:35 AM

The Mariners have found a way to fix their offensive woes: Seattle signs Wily Mo Pena

The minor league deal includes an opt-out if he is not with the club by September.
WMP was released by Arizona after he hit .196/.196/.522 in 46 at-bats.
Impressively, 5 of his 9 hits were home runs, but he also struck out 19 times (with no walks).

#107 Frank, Fenway

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Posted 28 July 2011 - 03:40 AM

I really hope he makes it this time. How many "second chances" can a guy get the majors?

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Posted 28 July 2011 - 01:49 PM

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#109 cwright

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Posted 28 July 2011 - 02:32 PM

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Wow. What happened to initiate that tirade?

#110 abty

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Posted 28 July 2011 - 07:12 PM

The Mariners have found a way to fix their offensive woes: Seattle signs Wily Mo Pena

The minor league deal includes an opt-out if he is not with the club by September.
WMP was released by Arizona after he hit .196/.196/.522 in 46 at-bats.
Impressively, 5 of his 9 hits were home runs, but he also struck out 19 times (with no walks).


If you are a power hitter and don't learn to hit with Manny and Papi, you never will. Those 2 were the perfect mentors and it didn't do anything for him. That's all I needed to see. I said it 6 years ago and, 6 years later, the Mariners claim him after he hits .196. He will never put it together.

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Posted 29 July 2011 - 06:59 AM

Bill Hall DFA'd by the World Champion Giants

#112 mt8thsw9th


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Posted 29 July 2011 - 09:56 AM

Those 2 were the perfect mentors and it didn't do anything for him.


Link?

#113 Frank, Fenway

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Posted 29 July 2011 - 02:35 PM

Link?


I think he was just exaggerating the effect of being on the same team with Manny and Papi

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 07:23 AM

RHP Mike Palm, who pitched 3 games for the Sox in 1948 after his career was delayed by WWII, died last week at age 86. The esteemed Bill Nowlin has a nice writeup on Palm for the SABR Bio Project.

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#115 abty

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 11:29 AM

I think he was just exaggerating the effect of being on the same team with Manny and Papi


Basically, I was saying they would be the perfect people to learn from. A Dominican kid who has to adapt to this new world, learn to hit, learn to adjust to the big leagues, learn to grow up - I can't think of 2 better people in baseball who he could have observed, learned from, etc. A big slugger who needs to learn plate patience and learn the importance of making good contact can do a lot worse than hanging around 2 of those hitters who also hit for power.

Now, to be fair, It's not their responsibility to mentor him but I am shocked I didn't see their hitting/training habits rub off on him. From that point forward I realized he would never make it and I still stick by that statement. I apologize for not being more clear. To me, he is Eddy Curry but with more motivation. He is tools and nothing else, sadly.

Edited by abty, 31 July 2011 - 11:31 AM.


#116 PrimusSucks626

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 12:03 PM

David Pauley was sent to the Tigers as part of the Fister trade.

He's put up a 2.15 ERA this year, with an FIP of 3.32 and xFIP of 3.93. His BABIP dropped 31 points from last year, but his HR/FB ratio dropped almost ten points as well. He's also striking out a few more guys and walking a little less, but the changes are small enough to contribute to flukiness.

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Posted 04 August 2011 - 02:06 PM

Looks like Matt Stairs has finally decided to retire. He made it to 12 different teams (13 if you count the Expos and Nationals as separate).

#118 Fishercat


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Posted 04 August 2011 - 07:21 PM

Looks like Matt Stairs has finally decided to retire. He made it to 12 different teams (13 if you count the Expos and Nationals as separate).


Matt Stairs, for my money, is one of the most interesting baseball players of this last baseball era. He didn't get a real shot until his late 20's or early 30's, his rate stats were usually starter level, he looked like a beer league softball player, and by all accounts he was just a very good person. I was so happy that he got his proverbial moment in the sun with Philly with the homerun off of Broxton that may still be flying. Every off season after Boston released him, especially in the early 2000's, I rooted for Boston to pick him up once his inevitable one year deal was over. He always hit and was fairly versatile (1B/OF, great pinch hitter). A look at his splits is just some fun symmetry. Home or away didn't really matter over his career. He was just as good subbing as starting. Every month he had an OPS over .800 and under .900. Same in the first half as he was in the second. High, medium, low leverage were all the same. He had the same exact OPS against flyball pitchers and groundball pitchers. There aren't a ton of splits that were actually splits for him beyond lefty v. righty.

Bill James and Joe Posnanski had an interesting "What If" HoF article that Stairs made it into as well

http://thesoulofbase...-have-been.html


This article about him in the Mexican League is a great story too

http://sportsillustr...11731/index.htm

I'm sad to see him go. I remember I went to Jeff Suppan's major league debut and was just a kid trying to get autographs from the Royals and Sox. I can't remember a ton from that. I know I got Gary Gaetti's and a few others, but I remember that Stairs took a fair amount of time out to sign the ball and talk a little with my stepdad before we went on our way. He PH in that game and hit a liner to left that was caught in the ninth. On the other hand, his game was a lot better than Bob Hamelin, who walked by our group and ignored us, with a nice 0-5 and a golden sombrero. I've followed him ever since and thought he came along a few years too early. I think if he had the same skills today, or a few years back, his career would have been much better with the way GMs view the game. He is probably the best hitter to play for 10 different franchises (maybe Zeile or Branyan. Lofton was definitely the better player)

Also, if you need Red Sox reading, I came across a blog post that puts Stairs and Duquette in some perspective.

http://thedunnedeal2...-era-leads.html

Edit: In typical Joe Posnanski fashion, he wrote an article on the retirement of Matt Stairs and Randy Moss as well

http://joeposnanski....ents/#more-7877

Edited by Fishercat, 04 August 2011 - 09:38 PM.


#119 abty

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Posted 04 August 2011 - 08:38 PM

Matt Stairs, for my money, is one of the most interesting baseball players of this last baseball era...


This is a fantastic post. I want to thank you for this because, to be brutally honest, I only saw him during his later years and always thought he was awful. I'm glad to see he had a good earlier career and am humbled to see he should not be judged based on the limited samples I have seen him in. He just happened to be a guy who, every time I saw him PH, would swing for the fences and K. I was his mush, basically.

#120 The_Powa_of_Seiji_Ozawa

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Posted 08 August 2011 - 12:19 PM

John Smoltz facing foreclosure.
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#121 Al Zarilla


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Posted 08 August 2011 - 12:32 PM

John Smoltz facing foreclosure.
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The Jackson Hole News & Guide reports that Smoltz owes Wells Fargo Bank roughly $1.6 million on a vacant lot in the Snake River Sporting Club. The property is a troubled development that has changed hands several times since 2004.

Geez, John, that sounds something like a God- forsaken piece of land I bought in CA when I was young foolish. Fortunately for me it was a much, much smaller deal and I got out with a small loss. Smoltzie should have known better.

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Posted 13 August 2011 - 08:35 AM

Kelly Shoppach, Casey Kotchman, and Johnny Damon all went yard against CC Sabathia yesterday

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 07:18 AM

Well done Jedi.

Well done indeed.

#124 TeddysBonefish

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 09:44 AM

The Jackson Hole News & Guide reports that Smoltz owes Wells Fargo Bank roughly $1.6 million on a vacant lot in the Snake River Sporting Club. The property is a troubled development that has changed hands several times since 2004.

Geez, John, that sounds something like a God- forsaken piece of land I bought in CA when I was young foolish. Fortunately for me it was a much, much smaller deal and I got out with a small loss. Smoltzie should have known better.


Godforsaken? Property along the Snake and Tetons is some of the most beautiful in the country.

Many of these "exclusive," luxury developments in the Rockies got walloped by the credit crunch and when the developers declared bankruptcy the outstanding costs got dumped on on property owners. See also The Yellowstone Club and Tamarack Ski Resort.

#125 SoxScout


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Posted 26 August 2011 - 02:09 PM

Hagadone gets caleld to the show

Hagadone, 25, has split the season between AA Akron and AAA Columbus where he has gone a combined 6-4 with a 2.65 ERA (68.0IP, 54H, 29R/20ER, 21BB, 74K, .213 avg, 4HR) in 44 relief appearances. He started the year at AA Akron (1.59ERA, 12 games) and was promoted to AAA Columbus on May 19.

The converted reliever owns an ERA of just 1.50 ERA (30.0IP, 27H, 5ER, 6BB, 35K) over his last 20 appearances since June 23 for the Clippers.



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Posted 31 August 2011 - 11:03 AM

With Hendry finally getting the axe in Chicago, the Mets seem like they are in prime position to be the dumbest organization in baseball. Case in point (via rotoworld):

Andy Martino of the New York Daily News was told by a "well-place front office source" that Jason Bay could be moved to center field next season.
It's one of many ideas being kicked around by the Mets, but we don't expect it to come to fruition. It's bad enough that they would have Bay in center field under this scenario, but with Daniel Murphy in left and Lucas Duda in right, they could have the worst defensive outfield in baseball. Angel Pagan hasn't exactly impressed the new front office, but he remains their best option in center field for 2012. Look for him to stay.

Career UZR/150 in LEFT field: -7.6. Great move!

My bet is that the Mets pay $200 million to Prince Fielder and move HIM to center field.

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 01:48 PM

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#128 OzSox

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Posted 01 September 2011 - 01:17 PM

Nick Hagadone, dealt to the Indians in the Victor Martinez deal, made his Major League debut today. He came into the game against the A's in the top of the 7th with no one out, the bases loaded and Cleveland trailing 3-0.

He retired all three hitters he faced in the 7th. The first hitter, Coco Crisp, grounded to third into a fielder's choice which got the lead runner at home. Matsui then hit a sac fly that scored Weeks, and Allen struck out. Nice job by Hagadone.

Edit: He came back out for the 8th and wasn't as good, giving up two hits and a walk and adding a wild pitch, exiting with the bases loaded and two outs. All three runners came around to score.

Edited by OzSox, 01 September 2011 - 01:54 PM.


#129 TheYaz67

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Posted 01 September 2011 - 01:31 PM

Last night, for the first time in 523 plate appearances, Derek Lowe went yard against the Nats in Atlanta (on the way to a 3-1 win), with a screaming liner to left that ricocheted off the top of the wall and barely made the seats. Not surprisingly he has never legged out a triple.

On the ESPN broadcast last night Schilling remarked that that was one more than he ever hit, but that he had somehow hit a triple in his career.... (he mistakenly remembered having hit 2)

#130 mt8thsw9th


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Posted 01 September 2011 - 02:02 PM

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The odds against a player going 2 for 45 and then 9 for 15 in a table-top dice game or other simple baseball sim (assuming his player card has him as a 24 for 151 sort of guy) are 1,173,436 to 1.

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Posted 01 September 2011 - 02:46 PM

The odds against a player going 2 for 45 and then 9 for 15 in a table-top dice game or other simple baseball sim (assuming his player card has him as a 24 for 151 sort of guy) are 1,173,436 to 1.


But, I mean, it's not a table-top game. A batter's going to face the starting pitcher probably 3 times in a game, so if the pitcher sucks, the batter's more likely to do well in bunches. If they're playing a series against, say, Houston, and then head to Philly, their batting stats might look pretty streaky. Besides that, there have been 138,586 at bats this season. Assuming that each one adds the possibility of having a 2 for 25 and a 9 for 15 streak (i.e. examining all stretches of 40 at bats), that's on the order of 4 million possible 40 at bat streaks. So you'd expect such a shift in hot to cold about 4 times in a full season. But of course we're only 5/6 of the way through.

Even if this were a table-top game, what's your point? That this was not random and that Jason Bay is actually a streaky hitter, or was hurt or something? What are you testing for?

edit: Also, I'm not sure why you cut it off at 9 for 15, when the streak listed in the image was from July 28 to August 12, when he went 22/53.

Edited by kieckeredinthehead, 01 September 2011 - 02:47 PM.


#132 mt8thsw9th


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Posted 02 September 2011 - 11:53 AM

But, I mean, it's not a table-top game.


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#133 kieckeredinthehead

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Posted 02 September 2011 - 12:21 PM

Ugh the truly embarrassing thing is I picked up on how much it sounded like EV just not enough to get it. My bad.

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Posted 03 September 2011 - 11:25 AM

Kevin Millwood has found a home in the NL West. He's 2-1 for Colorado after throwing 7 shutout innings against the Padres on Friday night. WHIP is 1.1. If Ian Kennedy can win 17 games out West, Millwood certainly can win a few with his slop and pitching savvy.

#135 scottyno

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Posted 03 September 2011 - 10:07 PM

former brief red sox prospect george kottaras becomes the first player this year to hit for the cycle with the brewers

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Posted 03 September 2011 - 10:33 PM

Arch-nemesis Julio Lugo released yesterday to make room for Jack Wilson.

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Posted 04 September 2011 - 07:50 AM

former brief red sox prospect george kottaras becomes the first player this year to hit for the cycle with the brewers

He would have had another triple in his final at bat if it hadn't hopped the wall.

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Posted 04 September 2011 - 10:57 AM

Chih-Hsien Chiang is hitting .213/.265/.270 in the Southern League

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Posted 04 September 2011 - 05:01 PM

Mike Cameron just drew a bases loaded walk to lead the Marlins over the Phillies in the 14th.

Cameron is hitting .231 for the Marlins with an OBP of .322.

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Posted 04 September 2011 - 05:04 PM

Kevin Millwood has found a home in the NL West. He's 2-1 for Colorado after throwing 7 shutout innings against the Padres on Friday night. WHIP is 1.1. If Ian Kennedy can win 17 games out West, Millwood certainly can win a few with his slop and pitching savvy.

After seeing the Miller Lackey combo this past weekend (and really, all season), I'm still not sure why the Sox didn't give Millwood one spot start before turfing him. I get the differences between the AL East and the NL West and have no illusions about Millwood. But we're talking about Miller and Lackey (and Wake) for goodness sakes.

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Posted 04 September 2011 - 05:26 PM

Ramon Ramirez gascans the Giants' season, coming into a tie game in the 8th, first and second one out, and gives up a triple, and then a single.

Edited by Al Zarilla, 04 September 2011 - 05:28 PM.


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Posted 04 September 2011 - 07:27 PM

Rammy being Rammy.

#143 ookami7m

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Posted 06 September 2011 - 03:53 PM

Jason Rice claimed off waivers from Oakland by Cleveland a week after the trade to Oakland:

http://hardballtalk....trading-for-him

#144 Bigpupp

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Posted 08 September 2011 - 08:26 AM

Jason Rice claimed off waivers from Oakland by Cleveland a week after the trade to Oakland:

http://hardballtalk....trading-for-him


Why was he even put on waivers? He wasn't on the Sox 40 man, so why did Oakland out him in theirs, just to take him off again?

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Posted 08 September 2011 - 09:57 AM

Why was he even put on waivers? He wasn't on the Sox 40 man, so why did Oakland out him in theirs, just to take him off again?

Maybe this?:

The A's obtained Jason Rice just before midnight Eastern last night, and after using all of their bullpen in the 16-inning loss here at Cleveland, it turned out that Rice was the only high-level minor-league player that Oakland could possibly get here in time for a noon game. Rice hopped a flight from Pawtucket, R.I., this morning, and he's expected to land at 11:40 a.m.



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Posted 09 September 2011 - 07:09 PM

Crazy Carl arrested for domestic assault

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Posted 13 September 2011 - 11:55 AM

Mike Cameron let go, this time by the Marlins.

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Posted 13 September 2011 - 12:39 PM

Mike Cameron let go, this time by the Marlins.


Nice tribute by Dave Cameron at Fangraphs.

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Posted 13 September 2011 - 05:59 PM

Old number 38 ready to try out for Offensive Line?

Cuz he sure can't pitch anymore

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Posted 13 September 2011 - 06:30 PM

Jason Rice claimed off waivers from Oakland by Cleveland a week after the trade to Oakland:

http://hardballtalk....trading-for-him

And now he's been DFAd by the Indians.