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#1 Mr Jums

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Posted 10 July 2010 - 09:21 AM



Age: 19
Born: November 3, 1990, Simpsonville, SC
Height: 6'4
Weight: 195
B/T: Right
Drafted by the Red Sox in the 7th round of the 2009 draft

I was surprised to see there wasn't a thread on Madison yet. He is one of my favorite type of prospects, the young raw pitcher with tons of potential.

Soxprospects on his repertoire

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Younginer has an impressive array of pitches, including: (1) a 94-95 mph four-seamer with great arm-side movement, which gets up to 97 mph; (2) an 89-90 mph two-seamer with nice downward movement; (3) a 73-76 mph 12-to-6 curveball with sharp, late break; and (4) a developing low-80s changeup with late life


They also describe his delivery as "somewhat violent". You can judge for yourself. While I can't vouch for the veracity of the information, this website BaseballInstinct has a breakdown of his mechanics, as well as two videos of him pitching, one perspective from behind home plate, and one perspective from the first base side.

Going into the 2009 Amateur draft, Baseball America ranked him as the 45th best prospect, yet he fell to the 228th pick where the Red Sox got him (SOSH Wiki). There were a number of concerns about Madison. He was throwing in the high 90s in high school, but he also played predominantly in the outfield, and only pitched in relief. Scouts weren't sure he could maintain this velocity as a starter

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For scouts, the difficulty has been in evaluating Younginer as a starter. His velocity was tracked at mid-90s every outing this season, but as a reliever. His pitches and velocity are consistent for a reliever, but scouts have had scant few chances to see Younginer in a starting role.

His high school had him closing at one point, which would allow Younginer to maintain his high-90s velocity.


The other main issue was that he had agreed to go to Clemson, where they would let him hit and play center field when he wasn't pitching. Madison talked about his decision to forgo Clemson for the Red Sox in an interview with OvertheMonster

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"To bypass Clemson was a very tough decision. They are one of the top baseball universities in the country and have a great coaching staff. I also had to bypass getting the opportunity to hit. I came up with an amount that I thought would be life-changing and worth signing. The Red Sox and I came to an agreement and I'm very happy with my decision."


In the interview Madison comes off as intelligent and articulate, with a reasonably objective perspective on his abilities. For his strengths he cites the quality of his fastball, curveball, and his mound demeanor. For his weaknesses, he talks about needing to improve his control by repeating his delivery better, as well as doing a better job controlling the tempo of the game.

Madison is currently pitching in Lowell, where in four starts he has put up the following line.

2-2, 3.63 ERA, 17 1/3 innings pitched, 11 hits, 0 HR, 7 walks, 13 K's, WHIP of 1.038

It's certainly a respectable line in it's own right. The interesting thing, at least to me, is the dichotomy between his one bad start, and his three good ones.

One bad start: 3 1/3 innings, 16.20 ERA, 6 hits, 3 walks, 2 K's
Three good ones: 14 innings, 0.64 ERA, 5 hits, 4 walks, 11 K's


It will be interesting going forward to see how often those bad starts crop up, and whether he can get those walk numbers down.


#2 Mr Jums

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Posted 10 July 2010 - 09:52 AM

Also of note, Madison is starting the Futures at Fenway game today for Lowell at 12:05

#3 Jimbodandy

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Posted 10 July 2010 - 10:16 AM

Nice job catching this. I was also surprised that this kid didn't have his own thread.

#4 Mr Jums

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Posted 11 July 2010 - 11:15 PM

Not a great start for Younginer at the rain shortened Futures at Fenway game. He pitched 3 innings, allowing 6 hits, 5 runs (4 earned), walking four and striking out one. I was waiting for the Lowell Sun to put up a game story before making this post, but there is something wrong with their web site.

Game summary from the Globe and mlb.com

Madison on the year

Record: 2-3
Innings: 20 1/3
ERA: 4.87
Hits: 17
Homeruns: 0
Walks: 11
Strikeouts: 14

#5 Super Nomario

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Posted 11 July 2010 - 11:26 PM

QUOTE (Mr Jums @ Jul 12 2010, 04:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not a great start for Younginer at the rain shortened Futures at Fenway game. He pitched 3 innings, allowing 6 hits, 5 runs (4 earned), walking four and striking out one. I was waiting for the Lowell Sun to put up a game story before making this post, but there is something wrong with their web site.

Game summary from the Globe and mlb.com

I was there. He was pretty unimpressive. Fastball 91-92, not a lot of swings and misses, had no control of his offspeed stuff, and wasn't fooling anybody.

#6 Mr Jums

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Posted 17 July 2010 - 08:03 AM

Madison had an abjectly horrible start last Thursday. He went 3 1/3 innings, giving up 6 hits (including his first home run of the year), 9 earned runs, walking 3 and striking out 2. Given the enormous sample size of two games, I think it is a veritable certainty that I have cursed him by creating this thread. For this, I am truly sorry.

Record: 2-4
Innings: 23 2/3
ERA: 7.61
Hits: 23
Homeruns: 1
Walks: 14
Strikeouts: 16

#7 Mr Jums

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Posted 22 July 2010 - 09:22 PM

Madison turned in a marginally better yet still fairly underwhelming start last Tuesday. He went 5 innings, giving up 3 runs on 7 hits, walking 4 and striking out 2. Now, I don't want to appear as if I have delusions of grandeur, or that I feel that I can control the fates of other people. All I'm saying is this; Madison Younginer before I started this topic, 17 1/3 innings pitched, 11 hits, 0 HR, 7 walks, 13 K's. Madison Younginer after I started this topic, 11 1/3 innings pitched, 19 hits, 1 HR, 11 walks, 5 K's. That's all I'm saying.

Stats on the year

Record: 2-5
Innings: 28 2/3
ERA: 7.22
Hits: 30
Homeruns: 1
Walks: 18
Strikeouts: 18

#8 Mr Jums

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Posted 31 July 2010 - 12:16 PM

In his last start, Madison took a nice step towards breaking what I have termed, with utmost humility, the "Jums curse". After skipping his last spot in the rotation to keep his innings down, he went 5 innings yesterday giving up one run on two hits, walking one and striking out four.

Stats on the year

Record: 2-5
Innings: 33 2/3
ERA: 6.42
Hits: 32
Homeruns: 1
Walks: 19
Strikeouts: 22

#9 Mr Jums

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Posted 07 August 2010 - 11:14 AM

Little behind the times on this one, but better late than never. In his start on Wednesday, Madison went 4 innings, giving up 3 runs (2 earned) while walking 2 and striking out 1.


Stats on the year

Record: 2-5
Innings: 37 2/3
ERA: 6.21
Hits: 39
Homeruns: 1
Walks: 21
Strikeouts: 23

#10 Mr Jums

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Posted 17 August 2010 - 10:34 PM

Since my last post, Younginer has had two starts. On August 10th, he went six innings, giving up three hits and striking out one. On August 15th, He went 5 innings, giving up three runs (one earned), giving up a homerun, walking two, and striking out none.

Stats on the year

Record: 3-5
Innings: 48 2/3
ERA: 4.99
Hits: 46
Homeruns: 2
Walks: 23
Strikeouts: 24




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