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Day 15: POR-BRA, NK-CIV, CHI-ESP, SUI-HON


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#1 ifmanis5


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Posted 25 June 2010 - 07:40 AM

Today is the last day of the Group Stage play.

Portugal once founded & conquered Brazil, can they do it again today on the pitch?



#2 ifmanis5


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Posted 25 June 2010 - 08:48 AM

Kaka not playing today (injury).

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 08:57 AM

QUOTE (ifmanis5 @ Jun 25 2010, 08:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Kaka not playing today (injury).

Technically, he's dragging a red card, too.

#4 Ahriman


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Posted 25 June 2010 - 09:06 AM

Portugal being dominated early.

#5 ifmanis5


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Posted 25 June 2010 - 09:09 AM

Shame this huge matchup is kind of meaningless.
Winner isn't even guaranteed to miss Spain in the next round so we won't get full effort today.

#6 Burt Reynoldz

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 09:12 AM

I kind of want Ivory Coast to score 7 goals and for Portugal to lose 0-3 to Brazil so that IC advances over Portugal.

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 09:16 AM

QUOTE (Burt Reynoldz @ Jun 25 2010, 10:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I kind of want Ivory Coast to score 7 goals and for Portugal to lose 0-3 to Brazil so that IC advances over Portugal.

Well, they've got 1 already.

N.Korea should not be in this tournament. What a joke that Ireland is home today.

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 09:21 AM

Thats two for Ivory Coast.

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 09:21 AM

QUOTE (ifmanis5 @ Jun 25 2010, 10:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, they've got 1 already.


2.

#10 URI


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Posted 25 June 2010 - 09:21 AM

Now 2.

#11 ifmanis5


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Posted 25 June 2010 - 09:25 AM

The Duda abides.

#12 Ahriman


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Posted 25 June 2010 - 09:26 AM

What did Duda get booked for? Wasn't paying attention.

Edited by Ahriman, 25 June 2010 - 09:26 AM.


#13 ForceAtHome

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 09:28 AM

CIV still needs to win 7-0 and then have Brazil win 2-0 to advance. Or 8-0 and 1-0... Steep hill to climb.

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 09:31 AM

Good for the ref.

He's called it well so far.

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 09:32 AM

QUOTE (Ahriman @ Jun 25 2010, 10:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What did Duda get booked for? Wasn't paying attention.

Stay out of Malibu, deadbeat! Keep your ugly fucking goldbricking ass out of my beach community!

#16 Ahriman


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Posted 25 June 2010 - 09:36 AM

Thiago back to being completely useless against all non North Korean teams.

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 09:38 AM

The best part is that the Brazilians and Portugalese can all talk spanish at each other when they take dives.

#18 jimc

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 09:39 AM

Why am I hearing John Harkes for the 3rd day in a row? Oh ESPN, you were doing so well.

#19 Zomp


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Posted 25 June 2010 - 09:42 AM

Game is getting testy.

I like it.

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 09:43 AM

QUOTE (ZompFoShomp @ Jun 25 2010, 09:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Good for the ref.

He's called it well so far.

Yes, he has.

Man, it's a yellow card parade. Even though it's a meaningless match, these guys are beating the fuck out of each other.

Edited by Bosoxen, 25 June 2010 - 09:43 AM.


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Posted 25 June 2010 - 09:43 AM

QUOTE (SydneySox @ Jun 25 2010, 10:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The best part is that the Brazilians and Portugalese can all talk spanish at each other when they take dives.



Spanish? Portuguese you mean?

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 09:46 AM

Ronaldo shot from 100 yards away laugh.gif

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 09:49 AM

QUOTE (nocode51 @ Jun 25 2010, 10:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Spanish? Portuguese you mean?



He speaks Australian, forgive him.

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 09:51 AM

QUOTE (ZompFoShomp @ Jun 25 2010, 10:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
He speaks Australian, forgive him.


YOU MEAN ENGLISH OHMYGODGEEZ!

#25 URI


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Posted 25 June 2010 - 09:52 AM

Of course, his central point stands. SydneySox is a gigantic mongoloid.

#26 Ahriman


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Posted 25 June 2010 - 09:58 AM

Thanks, Univision. I really needed to hear what that stupid ass llama Gasol has to say about Spain.

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 10:02 AM

QUOTE (Ahriman @ Jun 25 2010, 10:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks, Univision. I really needed to hear what that stupid ass llama Gasol has to say about Spain.

Did he flop while saying it?

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 10:08 AM

QUOTE (ifmanis5 @ Jun 25 2010, 11:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Did he flop while saying it?



#29 Phil Plantier

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 10:09 AM

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N.Korea should not be in this tournament. What a joke that Ireland is home today.


I know this is a game thread, but, assuming SydneySox was joking, this is the dumbest thing I've read in three weeks. Ireland was not able to score 2 goals in 210 minutes against a France side that has been a smoking crater for three years.

If anything, this world cup showed that Europe should have at least 2 spots (maybe 4) taken away from them and given to South America and Asia.

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 10:11 AM

QUOTE (Phil Plantier @ Jun 25 2010, 11:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I know this is a game thread, but, assuming SydneySox was joking, this is the dumbest thing I've read in three weeks. Ireland was not able to score 2 goals in 210 minutes against a France side that has been a smoking crater for three years.

If anything, this world cup showed that Europe should have at least 2 spots (maybe 4) taken away from them and given to South America and Asia.


SydneySox wanted the Irish to be there so the Australians could talk to each other in Scottish.

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 10:18 AM

Holy hell, what a save by Julio Cesar!

#32 ifmanis5


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Posted 25 June 2010 - 10:18 AM

QUOTE (Phil Plantier @ Jun 25 2010, 11:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I know this is a game thread, but, assuming SydneySox was joking, this is the dumbest thing I've read in three weeks. Ireland was not able to score 2 goals in 210 minutes against a France side that has been a smoking crater for three years.

If anything, this world cup showed that Europe should have at least 2 spots (maybe 4) taken away from them and given to South America and Asia.

And this is even worse.

Ireland's FIFA rank = 41
N.Korea's FIFA rank = 105


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Posted 25 June 2010 - 10:25 AM

QUOTE (ifmanis5 @ Jun 25 2010, 10:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Shame this huge matchup is kind of meaningless.
Winner isn't even guaranteed to miss Spain in the next round so we won't get full effort today.


Doesn't the winner of this group fall to the US side of the bracket?

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 10:28 AM

QUOTE (dwightinright @ Jun 25 2010, 04:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Doesn't the winner of this group fall to the US side of the bracket?


Correct. The loser moves to the bracket with England, Germany, Argentina, AND plays the winner of Spain v. Chile.

This game is not meaningless.

#35 ifmanis5


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Posted 25 June 2010 - 10:29 AM

QUOTE (dwightinright @ Jun 25 2010, 11:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Doesn't the winner of this group fall to the US side of the bracket?

Same side but they wouldn't meet until the semifinals.

link: http://www.fifa.com/...es/kostage.html

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 10:30 AM

QUOTE (nolasoxfan @ Jun 25 2010, 11:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Correct. The loser moves to the bracket with England, Germany, Argentina, AND plays the winner of Spain v. Chile.

This game is not meaningless.


Yeah, so you'd expect a push by Portugal sooner or later.

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 10:32 AM

QUOTE (ifmanis5 @ Jun 25 2010, 11:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Same side but they wouldn't meet until the semifinals.

link: http://www.fifa.com/...es/kostage.html


Yeah, I know that. For all the same reasons we like the US draw, you'd have to think one of these teams would prefer being on that side as well.

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 10:32 AM

QUOTE (SydneySox @ Jun 25 2010, 10:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The best part is that the Brazilians and Portugalese can all talk spanish at each other when they take dives.


┐Fala Espanhol?

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 10:32 AM

Sorry, still not convinced. 6 draws in qualifying (home and away to Italy, Bulgaria, and Montenegro(!)) means that \they would not be a scintillating addition to the world cup.

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3 spots below Honduras. 15 spots below Israel. If we were to determine the world cup solely by FIFA rankings Ireland still wouldn't make it.

Ireland has gotten a lot of mileage over a handball, but, even in that case, they were playing for penalties, so it's not as if victory was snatched from their grasp.

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 10:41 AM

QUOTE (Phil Plantier @ Jun 25 2010, 11:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sorry, still not convinced. 6 draws in qualifying (home and away to Italy, Bulgaria, and Montenegro(!)) means that \they would not be a scintillating addition to the world cup.



3 spots below Honduras. 15 spots below Israel. If we were to determine the world cup solely by FIFA rankings Ireland still wouldn't make it.

Ireland has gotten a lot of mileage over a handball, but, even in that case, they were playing for penalties, so it's not as if victory was snatched from their grasp.

Okay, but my point was that Ireland is miles ahead of N.Korea who have proven for sure that they don't belong anywhere near this stage. Every game they played was a total waste of our time.

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 10:47 AM

So, I guess Portugal is satisfied with the tougher side of the bracket. Kind of odd they didn't even make a push.

#42 teddykgb

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 10:49 AM

I think they'd have liked to make a push, but Brazil has been very adept at maintaining possession, they're just firing long balls to Ronaldo and running at lots of defenders, they probably missed their opening when Meireles missed the open net on that break

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 11:35 AM

QUOTE (dwightinright @ Jun 25 2010, 11:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So, I guess Portugal is satisfied with the tougher side of the bracket. Kind of odd they didn't even make a push.


It's far from clear how the late group will play out, and the potential quarterfinal opponent is decidedly tougher for Brazil now (Netherlands) than Portugal (winner of Paraguay/Japan).

If you look all the way out to the semis, that's when Portugal's side becomes tougher, but that seems kind of silly.

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 11:36 AM

QUOTE (ifmanis5 @ Jun 25 2010, 11:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Okay, but my point was that Ireland is miles ahead of N.Korea who have proven for sure that they don't belong anywhere near this stage. Every game they played was a total waste of our time.


Ecuador is the one with a complaint, finishing sixth in South America when the first five may all win their groups (four have so far, Chile is pending).

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 11:53 AM

QUOTE (ifmanis5 @ Jun 25 2010, 10:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, they've got 1 already.

N.Korea should not be in this tournament. What a joke that Ireland is home today.


FIFA is ready to listen to your suggestions. Unless Henry played for the communist North, I say kudos for Phil Plantier for pointing out the eternal dumbness of this post.

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 11:56 AM

QUOTE (ifmanis5 @ Jun 25 2010, 11:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And this is even worse.

Ireland's FIFA rank = 41
N.Korea's FIFA rank = 105


Obviously, you hate underdogs or Cinderella stories. By the same idiotic logic, Ireland, Japan, Korea should all not be in the tourney and let the FIFA rankings decide who competes in the top 32.

ifmanis5, I never noticed anything but positive things about your posts but this one should be put to bed.

Edit. One more thing - FIFA rankings also reflect the number of international matches a country plays, as each win/draw is multiplied by various factors like importance of game, region, opposing team's rankings, etc. NK rarely plays friendlies, and that severely hampers their position. China may be ahead of NK right now in terms of quality but they failed to qualify - NK deserves to be in the tournament and played with a lot of heart, even if they were too short on skills.

And I would venture NK would have no problem playing Irish to a draw in at least half of the matches as they can't score shit, and even stealing a win now and then.

Edited by SeoulSoxFan, 25 June 2010 - 12:13 PM.


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Posted 25 June 2010 - 12:06 PM

QUOTE (ifmanis5 @ Jun 25 2010, 11:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Okay, but my point was that Ireland is miles ahead of N.Korea who have proven for sure that they don't belong anywhere near this stage. Every game they played was a total waste of our time.


Is that so? Playing to a 2-1 to Brazil, surely a terrible 0-7 against Portugal (but there are reports the team didn't even fucking field rain cleats and were sliding all over the place in the 2nd half), then a 0-3 loss to the highly ranked CIV.

Are they possibly the worst team in the tourney? Possibly, but it's only a waste of time for lol-boo-hoo Irish rooters who's picking on the wrong team to continue to vent at the handball.

By the way, this same NK team played very, very well against the now respectable AFC with a 3-3-2 record in the WC qualifier, and beating out the Arab teams that literally pours tens of millions of $$$ into their teams.

I understand no one knew about this team before the WC unless you're into Asian football all season long, but you're really barking up the wrong tree.

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 12:12 PM

Wait, are you defending North Korea's performance in this tournament?

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 12:14 PM

QUOTE (ifmanis5 @ Jun 25 2010, 01:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wait, are you defending North Korea's performance in this tournament?


If that's what you read, move on. Irish deserved to be in the tourney, but that has NOTHING to do with NK not deserving to be here. They qualified through a very competitive AFC qualifying round, and the FIFA ranking has nothing to do with it.

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 12:16 PM

Well, I was right about my prediction of 0-3 and a double-digit GD against, but that was more about the group they were drawn into. At least North Korea had their moment in the tourney, getting a goal against Brazil.