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#51 JakeRae

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 05:39 PM

The last two weeks he only has 2 multi-hit games and no home runs. .256/.306/.562 during that stretch. Not much to report.

A .306 ISO in the absence of HR would be very impressive.

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 08:13 PM

Yeah, I should have checked the numbers I copied and pasted. .222/.256/.306 Salem scored 11 runs yesterday and he went 0-5. He's doing his part to drive down his trade value before the deadline to save Ben from himself.

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 08:48 PM

bb, 1b, k swinging, hr in his first 4 at bats tonight. He's coming out of this slump. Pretty sure he broke up a double play with his face a few weeks ago.

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 11:23 AM

bb, 1b, k swinging, hr in his first 4 at bats tonight. He's coming out of this slump. Pretty sure he broke up a double play with his face a few weeks ago.


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Posted 03 August 2012 - 04:12 PM

Wanted to add some thoughts from a game I saw against one of the top Nationals' pitching prospects:

1. He seemed to have good awareness of the strike zone. He consistently laid off close pitches that allowed him to both get into hitters counts, and then also showed patience in not swinging at pitchers' strikes when ahead. Other hitters on the team were swinging pretty consistently at the nasty slider that the Nats pitcher had, Xander was able to mostly lay off it in all three of his at bats.

2. He hit to all fields and his power was evident; in his second AB in the regularly scheduled game, he had a broken-bat, line-drive double down the left field line that carried all the way to the warning track despite the broken bat. Next time up he hit a humpback line drive at the second baseman for an out.

3. On defense he had only a couple balls hit his way. He didn't have great range and on the only tough throw he had to make he bounced it. Can't really evaluate defense based on one game, but that's what I saw.

#56 TheGoldenGreek33

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 10:53 AM

9-for-12 with four doubles and three walks over the weekend. Now has 44 XBH on the year and a .941 OPS in the second-half.

Crazy.

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 11:16 AM

9-for-12 with four doubles and three walks over the weekend. Now has 44 XBH on the year and a .941 OPS in the second-half.

Crazy.


Do you think he'll stick at SS or do will he move to 3B?

#58 TheGoldenGreek33

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 11:57 AM

Do you think he'll stick at SS or do will he move to 3B?

That's an intriguing question that isn't getting enough attention. The consensus is that he lacks the footwork to stick at short, and will lose another step since he's still growing into his 6'3, 175 frame. But, he has the athleticism and arm to handle basically anywhere else to the left of the defensive spectrum (other than center field). With third base looking like it's Middlebrooks' for the foreseeable future, that leaves right field as the most likeliest of destinations, in my opinion. Fenway's right field is obviously ridiculously tough to play, so there's that to throw in the equation as well. He's going to be 20-years-old in Double-A next year (or maybe this year), which is quite a challenge in itself. So, the question becomes: do you make him learn a new position while being the youngest player in the Eastern League? The jump from high A to Double-A is considered the hardest of any single level promotion in the minor leagues (more so for pitchers than hitters, but still). I say you keep him at short since he's still very young and results wise, has played the position decently. While he's virtually untouchable, his trade value is the highest there. He's still a couple years away from cracking the big leagues, so let's see how the bat makes the transition first and worry about the rest later.

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 12:51 PM

That's an intriguing question that isn't getting enough attention. The consensus is that he lacks the footwork to stick at short, and will lose another step since he's still growing into his 6'3, 175 frame. But, he has the athleticism and arm to handle basically anywhere else to the left of the defensive spectrum (other than center field). With third base looking like it's Middlebrooks' for the foreseeable future, that leaves right field as the most likeliest of destinations, in my opinion. Fenway's right field is obviously ridiculously tough to play, so there's that to throw in the equation as well. He's going to be 20-years-old in Double-A next year (or maybe this year), which is quite a challenge in itself. So, the question becomes: do you make him learn a new position while being the youngest player in the Eastern League? The jump from high A to Double-A is considered the hardest of any single level promotion in the minor leagues (more so for pitchers than hitters, but still). I say you keep him at short since he's still very young and results wise, has played the position decently. While he's virtually untouchable, his trade value is the highest there. He's still a couple years away from cracking the big leagues, so let's see how the bat makes the transition first and worry about the rest later.

Could he play the position in MLB right now, if his bat were ready? I think this is an important question because SS is an obvious organizational weakness and, with Bogaerts bat, if he adjusts well to AA next year, he could be a guy who starts to push his way onto the MLB roster much sooner than a couple years from now if he can actually play short. If he can't, the path is much harder as he needs to be able to outproduce Middlebrooks or Kalish (presumably) to crack the MLB roster. I wouldn't anticipate that either of those will be a long term issue for him, but they would definitely slow his path to MLB.

If he goes to the AFL this year, and adjusts as seamlessly to AA as he has to every attempt the organization has made to challenge him so far, we are going to start seeing the media and fans push for him to get, at the very least, a September call up as early as next year. I don't think it's the most likely scenario, but I could see him (once again, only if he can play short passably) getting to MLB in September and pulling an Ellsbury. I am not saying this is the most likely outcome, but it is a very real possibility.

#60 TheGoldenGreek33

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 01:11 PM

Could he play the position in MLB right now, if his bat were ready?

No chance. Not very many people think he'll stick. I just think it's worth leaving him be given his age, athleticism and arm.

I think this is an important question because SS is an obvious organizational weakness and, with Bogaerts bat, if he adjusts well to AA next year, he could be a guy who starts to push his way onto the MLB roster much sooner than a couple years from now if he can actually play short.

It's a ML weakness, but not so much an organizational weakness with Iglesias, Marrero and Vinicio -- all plus/plus-plus defenders. The biggest question to me isn't if he can stick at short, but when to move him off the position.

If he can't, the path is much harder as he needs to be able to outproduce Middlebrooks or Kalish (presumably) to crack the MLB roster. I wouldn't anticipate that either of those will be a long term issue for him, but they would definitely slow his path to MLB.

Yeah, I think it's more likely that they'd make Bogaerts convert, not Middlebrooks - a plus defender and already producing at the ML level. Kalish has obviously been a disappointment coming back from injury. At 24, maybe he figures it out. He's kind of a wild card at this point.

If he goes to the AFL this year, and adjusts as seamlessly to AA as he has to every attempt the organization has made to challenge him so far, we are going to start seeing the media and fans push for him to get, at the very least, a September call up as early as next year. I don't think it's the most likely scenario, but I could see him (once again, only if he can play short passably) getting to MLB in September and pulling an Ellsbury. I am not saying this is the most likely outcome, but it is a very real possibility.

It's definitely a possibility if that bat is ready. Hopefully things will have died down at the ML circus that Ben won't have to be in that position.

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Posted 09 August 2012 - 01:42 PM

Per @evanlepler, Xander Bogaerts has been promoted to Double-A Portland.


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Posted 09 August 2012 - 02:16 PM

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Portland's quickly becoming an awfully interesting team.

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Posted 09 August 2012 - 02:19 PM

I don't know how much more interesting a MiL team can get, it's freakin stacked.

Edited by SoxScout, 09 August 2012 - 02:19 PM.


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Posted 09 August 2012 - 02:33 PM

The only player in the Eastern League who will be younger than Bogaerts is newly-promoted Orioles righthander Dylan Bundy, who was born a month after Bogaerts. The only other player in all of Double-A younger than Bogaerts or Bundy is Rangers 19-year-old shortstop Jurickson Profar.


Yet despite his youth, Bogaerts has proven himself ready to make the jump. Bogaerts hit .301/.376/.505 in 103 games for Salem with 15 homers, 42 walks and 85 strikeouts. Like Profar, Bogaerts was an international signing in 2009 who has moved quickly through the minors. While it's likely that Bogaerts may have to slide over to third base, he has plenty of offensive upside for the position, with an advanced bat for his age, terrific bat speed and impressive raw power to all fields. As well as Will Middlebrooks has played this year, there are still plenty of scouts who see Bogaerts having even more potential at the plate.

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Posted 09 August 2012 - 02:45 PM

http://www.baseballa...ts-to-double-a/

The Macahado situation is somewhat analogous and it's interesting that Baltimore called him up to play 3rd without him having made the move while in the minors. It's an interesting move and I'm not sure the Orioles are an organization to emulate in any way but it's worth noting that accelerating X through the system might not be dependent on a pre-MLB position switch

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Posted 09 August 2012 - 02:55 PM

I just don't see them sliding him over to 3B. He does have more upside than WMB -- but not as a defender, and not at third. I know it's been rough at times for Middlebrooks over there -- but people don't understand how fast the big-league game moves. Once he adapts, he's a gold-glover. And if he's shown anything since I've been watching him, it is that he will adapt.

I see X moving to the outfield. He's got the athleticism and the arm to play right. If a guy has moved as quickly as he has, I doubt as well that learning a new position is going to be all that challenging for him.

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Posted 09 August 2012 - 03:56 PM

http://www.baseballa...ts-to-double-a/


So, amazingly, Xander Boegarts actually has the 3rd-most-awesome name among teenagers in AA ball. Didn't see that coming.

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Posted 09 August 2012 - 04:56 PM

I just don't see them sliding him over to 3B. He does have more upside than WMB -- but not as a defender, and not at third. I know it's been rough at times for Middlebrooks over there -- but people don't understand how fast the big-league game moves. Once he adapts, he's a gold-glover. And if he's shown anything since I've been watching him, it is that he will adapt.

I see X moving to the outfield. He's got the athleticism and the arm to play right. If a guy has moved as quickly as he has, I doubt as well that learning a new position is going to be all that challenging for him.

Agreed. WMB is going to be a plus defender and his power is to legit. He needs to be embraced as a future "core" player. Put X in right.

We want these guys playing together. We don't need to be put in the position where they are mutually exclusive.

A 2014 team centered around veterans Pedroia and Gonzalez, seasoned WMB, and the rookie talent of JBJ and Bogaerts is fun to think about.

Edited by SouthernBoSox, 09 August 2012 - 05:02 PM.


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Posted 09 August 2012 - 05:08 PM

To be rather sacrilegious, what I'm most interested in right now is whether Bogaerts might maintain sufficient range and hands to move to 2B in 2015.

The Sox prospered under both Todd Walker and Mark Bellhorn. So I guess a man can dream...

#70 Brianish

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Posted 10 August 2012 - 07:09 AM

First game in Portland, Xander homered as the go-ahead run, giving Portland the win. Not a bad debut.

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Posted 16 August 2012 - 09:41 PM

Hit an absolute rope to right center tonight (off Gerrit Cole, first pick in the 2011 draft) for a just-missed-going-out double. Cole had made him look bad on a couple of high heaters earlier but the double was impressive indeed. He's hit in all six AA games he's been in.

#72 Brianish

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Posted 16 August 2012 - 09:45 PM

It's getting really hard to stay rational when it comes to this kid.

#73 Pearl Wilson

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Posted 25 August 2012 - 07:42 PM

They're also looking at a pretty interesting group of position-player prospects racing up the system, led by Xander Bogaerts, who has improved his defense at shortstop this year and might defy earlier expectations and stay at the position.


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Posted 31 August 2012 - 10:29 PM

Last night I had my first in person look at our top prospect. He will not even be 20 until after his season is over. If not for once/twice generational talent in Harper and Trout people would be alot more excited about this kid from Aruba. I watched him go 3 for 4 last night with a double and two singles. He basically pulled everything to the left side, still he's now batting .312 (/.333/.610).in his initial 80 or so at bats at AA ball where the true prospects are separated from the pretenders. Overall he's .371/.523/.894. He did not have to make any extraordinary plays at SS however he did display a slightly above average arm on the one play he had to rush but the firstbase saved him a throwing error by scoping it out of the dirt. Overall he looked better at SS than I had anticipated based on reports. Whether he sticks at SS I'm not going to pretend I know. I do think he's the most talented positional player since Jacoby or Nomar that we've had in the system. I suspect he'll be a perennial all-star and will guestimate his TOA at this time next year, (EDIT TO add)and if not at least sometime during the 2014 season.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 08:31 AM

Time to move this guy up to full membership! Posts like this need to be on the main board guys. Come on!

#76 billy ashley

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 08:53 AM

sold.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 09:07 AM

I knew Xander was good, but I guess he's so good that even the Spam advertisers are hitting his adopt a prospect page to take advantage of all the page views.

That's when you know a propect has really made it!

#78 seantoo

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 11:36 AM

Looks like a keeper to me. Trade Middlebrooks.

Assume Inglesias hitting reaches acceptable levels for the majors, and Bogaert's fielding ultimately does not make the grade at SS. Trading Middlebrooks should certainly be explored however what about moving Will to first base? Right now it is an organizational weakness and he's cost controlled for 5 or 6 more years so you can and should kick the tires to see what his perceived value is to others. If they overwhelm you great and if not then you at least have a nice fall back plan. Then again Bogaerts might end up in the OF too.

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 11:45 AM

Why would you move a plus defender at 3rd, who's already played in the majors at that position, to 1st? If you're going to move one of them to 1st, why wouldn't you move Xander? You wind up with the same bats, you put the better one at the less demanding position, you maximize your defense, and you only have to count on one of them learning a new position. If Xander can't give you the bonus of his bat's production at shortstop, what do you gain by putting him at 3rd instead of 1st? If you move Xander to 3rd, it's because you've acquired a serious bat at first and Middlebrooks is being shipped off to make room. If both Middlebrooks and Xander are starting anyway, there's no reason to move one to make room for the other. 



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Posted 09 February 2013 - 01:28 PM

OttoC, on 19 Nov 2011 - 10:27, said:

Looks like a keeper to me. Trade Middlebrooks.

I don't think that was meant very seriously.

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 02:58 PM

Why would you move a plus defender at 3rd, who's already played in the majors at that position, to 1st? If you're going to move one of them to 1st, why wouldn't you move Xander? You wind up with the same bats, you put the better one at the less demanding position, you maximize your defense, and you only have to count on one of them learning a new position. If Xander can't give you the bonus of his bat's production at shortstop, what do you gain by putting him at 3rd instead of 1st? If you move Xander to 3rd, it's because you've acquired a serious bat at first and Middlebrooks is being shipped off to make room. If both Middlebrooks and Xander are starting anyway, there's no reason to move one to make room for the other. 

It's based on reports that Bogaerts glove MAY land him at 3B. If that ends up the case it's assumed moving from SS to 3B he'd be a good defensive player. With that in mind what kind of defensive difference at third would there be? I don't think anyone here, myself included could quantify it very well. Third base is one of the farm's positional strength right now, and with Middlebrooks starting his first full (hopefully) season there, in the next few years either players are being moved from the position or traded.  Xander should be nearly untradeable at this point and is often (right or wrong) mentioned by scouts as moving to third. The players behind Middlebrooks include G.Cecchini ranked #7 at Red Sox prospects and Vitek who was a first round pick in 2010 and needs to step up this year.

The later two have little trade value, especially Vitek. The Sox are rebuilding competing during a bridge year and thinking outside the box is a good way to maximize your assets. Should Xander's glove land him at thirdbase (as some scouts have stated), then either dealing a very valuable asset in Middelbrooks may be an option or moving one of them to another position is another. You seem to know that it would be Xander, between the two in this hypothetical, moving to first. I don't know maybe your are right, more than likely we'll never know one way or the other.



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Posted 11 February 2013 - 03:11 PM

If you can get two or three years out of Bogaerts at short before having to move him, he's a far more valuable player than Igelesias unless Iglesias takes an enormous step forward with the bat.  The chances of Bogaerts playing good enough defense to stick for a few years seem far greater than Igelsias figuring out how hit at a .650+ OPS clip in the same time frame.  And if Bogaerts has to move off short and the team doesn't want to deal Middlebrooks away, there are other positions on the diamond that Bogaerts could move to.  Right field is generally considered one more step than 3B, so the difference in value between the two isn't that large and would allow the Red Sox to retain as many young players with upside as possible.

 

I'd be very surprised if there is any serious talk about trading Middlebrooks, and as Otto has pointed out, he was being facetious when he posted. that.  At the very least, I think we're going to see a few years of Xander manning short for the Red Sox.



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Posted 11 February 2013 - 05:10 PM

Pedroia will be turning 30 this season, so there is a possibility that they could be looking for a replacement in 3-4 years and one of their young SS prospects could switch over to that spot or be groomed as a utility player. A question is where will Deven Marrero end up. He'll be turning 23 in August and is 6'1"/194. Maybe he moves to another position. It's a little early to really sort all this out; we need to see how they shake out in the minors this year.



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Posted 11 February 2013 - 05:18 PM

Yeah, I think trying to project anyone beyond Bogaerts and Iglesias is probably a fool's errand without another year of development to look at.  From everything I remember about Marrero, however, he's a strong glove short stop with some upside in his bat.  So maybe he displaces Bogaerts at short and Bogaerts replaces Pedroia at second at that point?  Marrero making his debut at 26 or 27 wouldn't be much of an issue unless he really forces the issue with his play in the minors before then.  And there's probably a greater chance that he falls short of his ceiling and ends up a utility player or washes out anyway, so I'm not going to worry about it any time soon.



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Posted 11 February 2013 - 06:07 PM

It's based on reports that Bogaerts glove MAY land him at 3B. If that ends up the case it's assumed moving from SS to 3B he'd be a good defensive player. With that in mind what kind of defensive difference at third would there be? I don't think anyone here, myself included could quantify it very well. Third base is one of the farm's positional strength right now, and with Middlebrooks starting his first full (hopefully) season there, in the next few years either players are being moved from the position or traded.  Xander should be nearly untradeable at this point and is often (right or wrong) mentioned by scouts as moving to third. The players behind Middlebrooks include G.Cecchini ranked #7 at Red Sox prospects and Vitek who was a first round pick in 2010 and needs to step up this year.

The later two have little trade value, especially Vitek. The Sox are rebuilding competing during a bridge year and thinking outside the box is a good way to maximize your assets. Should Xander's glove land him at thirdbase (as some scouts have stated), then either dealing a very valuable asset in Middelbrooks may be an option or moving one of them to another position is another. You seem to know that it would be Xander, between the two in this hypothetical, moving to first. I don't know maybe your are right, more than likely we'll never know one way or the other.

 

I know Xander is the one moving to third, and I know Middlebrooks would be kept and not traded, because that's the hypothetical to which I was responding. 



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Posted 12 February 2013 - 12:28 AM

Marrero will stick at short. His value is cut in half anywhere else. 



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Posted 12 February 2013 - 02:51 PM

Pedroia will be turning 30 this season, so there is a possibility that they could be looking for a replacement in 3-4 years and one of their young SS prospects could switch over to that spot or be groomed as a utility player. A question is where will Deven Marrero end up. He'll be turning 23 in August and is 6'1"/194. Maybe he moves to another position. It's a little early to really sort all this out; we need to see how they shake out in the minors this year.

Otto, this is good outside the box thinking as must people simply cannot conceive life beyond Pedroia. The team has a club option on him for 2015 when he'll be 32. He's small and had several injuries 2 of the past 3 years and his swing from the heels swing is the kind that once it slips a little it will slip ALOT. As great as he's been I would not want to extend him beyond 2015.

Devon Marrero from what I gathered maybe the easiest of the Sox SS farmhands to project. Obviously he does not have close to the ceiling that Xander does nor is his bat as questionable as Inglesias and his fielding is somewhere between the wide range of the two. He projects to be a steady MLB SS, nothing spectacular. I agree that this is a big year for all 3 this year and will go along way toward deciding the direction the Sox infield goes going forward. BTW I like the Drew 1 year signing, I read somewhere that for about 3 years leading up to his ankle injury that he had the 4 best OPS of SS in MLB. Some scouts noted that he looked like he was getting back to the SS he once was as the season wore on and that was why the A's went after him. I position that has been a weakness since 2004 looks like by this time next year will finally be settled for a while. Something to look forward to.



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Posted 12 February 2013 - 02:57 PM

If you can get two or three years out of Bogaerts at short before having to move him, he's a far more valuable player than Igelesias unless Iglesias takes an enormous step forward with the bat.  The chances of Bogaerts playing good enough defense to stick for a few years seem far greater than Igelsias figuring out how hit at a .650+ OPS clip in the same time frame.  And if Bogaerts has to move off short and the team doesn't want to deal Middlebrooks away, there are other positions on the diamond that Bogaerts could move to.  Right field is generally considered one more step than 3B, so the difference in value between the two isn't that large and would allow the Red Sox to retain as many young players with upside as possible.

 

I'd be very surprised if there is any serious talk about trading Middlebrooks, and as Otto has pointed out, he was being facetious when he posted. that.  At the very least, I think we're going to see a few years of Xander manning short for the Red Sox.

I don't think you read what I wrote. I did not advocate trading Middlebrooks I merely mentioned it as a possibility should the team decide to move Xander to third. That kicking the tires to see Will's value is something they would then have to consider if not then likely move him to first. I also stated that Xander may end up at SS or even an OF corner, all of these items have been mentioned by scouts etc. I'm thinking what would the consequences be should each of the scenarious actually play out. Speculation on prospects is that not a big part of what's done here?



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Posted 12 February 2013 - 03:24 PM

Speculation on prospects is one thing... talking about making trades at the major league level (hypothetical or not) based on prospects who haven't even made it to AA yet is another.  If you want to talk about Marrero displacing Bogaerts at short in three years, be my guest.  There won't be much value in doing so, however.



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Posted 12 February 2013 - 04:07 PM

I know Xander is the one moving to third, and I know Middlebrooks would be kept and not traded, because that's the hypothetical to which I was responding. 

Previously you wrote, "If you move Xander to 3rd, it's because you've acquired a serious bat at first and Middlebrooks is being shipped off to make room. If both Middlebrooks and Xander are starting anyway, there's no reason to move one to make room for the other."

 

You lost me entirely between your two post.

 

Regarding the later post, that's a possibility however that is also putting the cart before the horse. If the Sox hypothetically moved Xander to third, which I thought your were against, and they moved Middlebrooks to first, they then could acquire (SIGN) a serious corner OF bat. There is a bigger FA pool of talent for corner OF'ers than 1B and the Sox have both better quality and quantity of OF'ers than Firstbasemen.(IN the minors)  If the Sox don't feel the need to trade someone then they are more likely to get back more than otherwise expected, in this case I'd hold on to both chips. The Sox would then have the corner IF positions set for years.  CF would be covered by a top defensive CF in either JBJ or Ellsbury should the extend him. With 1 serious bat signed to a Corner OF spot the Sox would be more likely to get away with a top notch defensive SS in Inglesias or the more balanced option D. Marrero. The Sox would have a very good foundation to build on. 


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Posted 12 February 2013 - 07:02 PM

Speculation on prospects is one thing... talking about making trades at the major league level (hypothetical or not) based on prospects who haven't even made it to AA yet is another.  If you want to talk about Marrero displacing Bogaerts at short in three years, be my guest.  There won't be much value in doing so, however.

 

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 08:13 AM

Speculation on prospects is one thing... talking about making trades at the major league level (hypothetical or not) based on prospects who haven't even made it to AA yet is another.  If you want to talk about Marrero displacing Bogaerts at short in three years, be my guest.  There won't be much value in doing so, however.

I think your conclusions of what I said are signifigantly off base. Xander Bogaerts, who many scouts have said is one of the top 5 prospects in all of baseball has a bat that is not questioned, however what position he ultimately ends up is in question be it SS, 3B or a corner OF spot. He played very well at 19/20 YO in AA (I watched him play in several games) and his ETA is 2013/2014 . You see no value in what would be the best scenario or likely outcome of that and I strongly disagree with that notion. Where he ends up or is best utilized will effect several other positions and changed the team for years to come. How is that NOT discussion worthy and if so then you need to support why you believe what you believe. If the Sox did not have Inglesias or other top 10/11 prospects at SS then there would be no speculation, Xander would be the SS more than likley next season. But there are other alternatives that could likely happen too and that IS worth discussion, if you choose not to so be it.



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Posted 13 February 2013 - 08:29 AM

As I pointed out somewhere, Bogaerts will be playing for the Netherlands in the WBC, That team already has Atlanta's Andrelton Simmons at shortstop so Bogaerts will be playing some other positions. Tim Britton at the Providence Journal says he will be working out at third base in spring training in preparation for that and he will also be used at DH.

 

http://blogs.provide...time-at-3b.html



#94 TheGoldenGreek33

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 03:34 PM

As I pointed out somewhere, Bogaerts will be playing for the Netherlands in the WBC, That team already has Atlanta's Andrelton Simmons at shortstop so Bogaerts will be playing some other positions. Tim Britton at the Providence Journal says he will be working out at third base in spring training in preparation for that and he will also be used at DH.

 

http://blogs.provide...time-at-3b.html

 

Profar is on that team as well. That's going to be a fun infield to watch. 



#95 Joshv02

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 05:08 PM

It will be -- but Profar may skip out so he can try to make the Rangers out of camp.  Presumably, Xander will be 3B/DH no matter what Profar does.



#96 TheGoldenGreek33

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 12:36 PM

X-Man with the two spot on BA's Hot Sheet:

 

2. Xander Bogaerts, ss, Red Sox

Team: Double-A Portland (Eastern)

Age: 20

Why He’s Here: .440/.548/.720 (11-for-25), 6 R, 1 2B, 3 3B, 5 RBIs, 6 BB, 8 SO, 1-for-1 SB

The Scoop: A 20-year-old in Double-A, Bogaerts took about 10 games to get going, but he’s been scorching the ball lately, with at least one hit in eight of his last nine games and five multi-hit games in that stretch. The strikeouts (24 in 18 games) are a touch high and the over-the-fence power isn’t showing up in games yet, but give it time. By the all-star break you’re going to be wondering when Boston will promote him to Triple-A.


Edited by TheGoldenGreek33, 26 April 2013 - 12:36 PM.


#97 bellowthecat

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 01:01 PM

Anybody know the reason why he didn't play in yesterday's game?  Is he hurt or something?



#98 PedrosMangoTree

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 06:26 PM

Per the Sea Dogs broadcast, he's attending his sister's wedding.



#99 Snodgrass'Muff


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Posted 08 May 2013 - 01:15 AM

Not indicative of anything, but Bogaerts played in 23 games at AA Portland in 2012 and is now at 23 games this year. In 2012 he hit 326/351/598 with 5 home runs, a 1.0% walk rate and a 21.6% strikeout rate, good for a .415 wOBA and a 159 wRC+ over 97 plate appearances. In an equally small sample of 111 plate appearances in 2013 he has hit 303/373/465 with 2 home runs, a 9.9% walk rate, a 26.1% strikeout rate, good for a .373 wOBA and a 131 wRC+.

Considering he won't turn 21 until October, it's really nice to see him continue to hit well in his first month at the same level this season.

#100 Ferm Sheller

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 04:20 PM

And just to add Snodgrass, this year's games have been played (on average) in much less favorable weather.




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