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[williams1939]

The problem I have is that Cooke could have made just as big of a hit if he just squared him instead of going right for his head. Savard was off balance and Cooke could have hit him even harder if he went for the body/shoulders.

[The Four Peters]

A quote for those in the "The Bruins are Gutless Pansies" camp-



(from the Globe)

This makes sense then. I'm guessing a lot of guys were frothing at the mouth and Julien forcefully calmed them down and reminded them there'd be other chances to get him back and only one chance to win this game. At least, I'm hoping that's the case.

The team cares enough to get pissed off, but Julien is smart enough to keep them under control.

[Sille Skrub]

I'm guessing a lot of guys were frothing at the mouth and Julien forcefully calmed them down and reminded them there'd be other chances to get him back and only one chance to win this game.

I think this is exactly what happened. They need every single point they can get from here on out.

If this isn't the case, than the lack of retaliation is clearly Tim Thomas' fault.

[j44thor]

This makes sense then. I'm guessing a lot of guys were frothing at the mouth and Julien forcefully calmed them down and reminded them there'd be other chances to get him back and only one chance to win this game. At least, I'm hoping that's the case.

The team cares enough to get pissed off, but Julien is smart enough to keep them under control.

This team plays way too in control, there were multiple chances to at the very least lay a nice hit on someone after the incident (looking at you Captain Chara) and the B's barely moved their guy off the puck, not to mention Malkin embarrasing Seidenberg when he laid into him with possession of the puck knocking Seidenberg out of the play.

This team is playing timid and is a shadow of the team that would routinely beat them and beat them up last year. Since when did the B's become a SEL team? This fucking sucks.

[cshea]

The physical play on this team begins and ends with Zdeno Chara and Milan Lucic. Both guys are battling injuries and are less than 100%, and the lack of physical play is a direct result of the injuries.

Edited by cshea, 08 March 2010 - 10:43 AM.

[williams1939]

Z and Lucic are not even close to who they were last season.

[Salem's Lot]

This makes sense then. I'm guessing a lot of guys were frothing at the mouth and Julien forcefully calmed them down and reminded them there'd be other chances to get him back and only one chance to win this game. At least, I'm hoping that's the case.

The team cares enough to get pissed off, but Julien is smart enough to keep them under control.

The lack of response that this team showed yesterday was inexcusable. I don't care what the game situation was. How do you think Savard feels this morning everytime that he sees that replay, and notices that his teammates did nothing to get his back? If Savard's out for the year then thier not making the playoffs anyway. This was a chance to show an important member of the team, and the rest of the league that they take care of thier own. Instead Savard, and the rest of the league is looking at them as a bunch of pussies.

[BucketOBalls]

Exactly, Cooke claimed he got hit in a similar fashion a few shifts earlier so he was pissed and was looking for revenge.

Couldn't have been that similar as he was still in the game. He saw a chance for a cheap hit an took it. (The play was two far from him for him to do anything, and all the refs(and B's) were watching it.

Edit: The league would be best served by just reviewing these types of things and handing out big suspensions. That was pretty clearly intentional(Cooke had his guy lined up from behind and stuck out the elbow), he had no need to go for the head, as he could have delivered a great clean hit. The only way to stop the problem is to train the players not to do it.

Edited by BucketOBalls, 08 March 2010 - 10:56 AM.

[kenneycb]

The lack of response that this team showed yesterday was inexcusable. I don't care what the game situation was. How do you think Savard feels this morning everytime that he sees that replay, and notices that his teammates did nothing to get his back? If Savard's out for the year then thier not making the playoffs anyway. This was a chance to show an important member of the team, and the rest of the league that they take care of thier own. Instead Savard, and the rest of the league is looking at them as a bunch of pussies.

Seeing as how Savard is the captain and any captain wants what's best for the team, I sure as hell hope he'd rather they go for the win than go for some bullshit retaliation. This team isn't a lock for the playoffs. They need points. I'm honestly incredulous with the amount of reactionary pitchfork wielding BS that's going on in here. It's like a bunch of JulE6's. I want the Bruins to get to the playoffs first and realize that they can get revenge on 3/18. Wait until then before calling this team gutless bastards.

[The Four Peters]

Seeing as how Savard is the captain

He is?

I sure as hell hope he'd rather they go for the win than go for some bullshit retaliation. This team isn't a lock for the playoffs. They need points. I'm honestly incredulous with the amount of reactionary pitchfork wielding BS that's going on in here. It's like a bunch of JulE6's. I want the Bruins to get to the playoffs first and realize that they can get revenge on 3/18. Wait until then before calling this team gutless bastards.

I wholeheartedly agree. No one knows what was said on the bench, and what is said behind closed doors. I sure as hell aren't going to speculate on Savard's thoughts this morning, as jumbled as they may be.

This isn't much different than the Scott Walker situation last year. There was zero retaliation then either, because winning the fucking games were paramount. And guess who was the most vocal in that opinion? Aaron Ward himself.

[Salem's Lot]

Seeing as how Savard is the captain and any captain wants what's best for the team, I sure as hell hope he'd rather they go for the win than go for some bullshit retaliation. This team isn't a lock for the playoffs. They need points. I'm honestly incredulous with the amount of reactionary pitchfork wielding BS that's going on in here. It's like a bunch of JulE6's. I want the Bruins to get to the playoffs first and realize that they can get revenge on 3/18. Wait until then before calling this team gutless bastards.

So now anybody that watches this team and reacts negative about it is a "JulE6". Ok , let's gloss over the fact that now teams in this league think they can target our best players without any fear of retaliation. Let's just ignore that two minutes after the Savard incident, the Penguins ran our goaltender for the third of fourth time in this game and again the Bruins did nothing. I'm sorry but that's disturbing. They looked weak and physically intimidated yesterday. And when you lack skill, and can be pushed around, you're not going to win many games.

[Terras]

I sure as hell hope he'd rather they go for the win than go for some bullshit retaliation. This team isn't a lock for the playoffs. They need points.

I very much agree with this, to the point that I almost hope the NHL gives Cooke 6 games. Cooke is going to play the Bruins again and he'll get his then, but the B's focus right now has to on wins. If postponing revenge until 2010-2011 is what it takes to get that done, then so be it. Having a 60 minute shitshow on the 18th accomplishes nothing. The last thing we need is someone busting a finger a la Mark Stuart-Wayne Simmonds (not that that was Stuart's fault) going after Cooke.

That being said, I want Cooke drawn, quartered, and paraded around Boston city limits.

EDIT: clarification and yeah, Savvy's not the captain.

Edited by Terras, 08 March 2010 - 11:24 AM.

[Haunted]

So now anybody that watches this team and reacts negative about it is a "JulE6". Ok , let's gloss over the fact that now teams in this league think they can target our best players without any fear of retaliation. Let's just ignore that two minutes after the Savard incident, the Penguins ran our goaltender for the third of fourth time in this game and again the Bruins did nothing. I'm sorry but that's disturbing. They looked weak and physically intimidated yesterday. And when you lack skill, and can be pushed around, you're not going to win many games.

I agree with this. The Cooke hit was a big thing, but not the only cheap shot the Bruins took without retaliation.

And honestly, did anyone actually think they were going to score after Savard went out?

[FL4WL3SS]

I agree, if someone is going to throw an elbow at our captain, they need to pay.

[TheStoryofYourRedRightAnkle]

I agree, if someone is going to throw an elbow at our captain, they need to pay.

They'd have to have looong elbows to do it though.

[kenneycb]

So now anybody that watches this team and reacts negative about it is a "JulE6". Ok , let's gloss over the fact that now teams in this league think they can target our best players without any fear of retaliation. Let's just ignore that two minutes after the Savard incident, the Penguins ran our goaltender for the third of fourth time in this game and again the Bruins did nothing. I'm sorry but that's disturbing. They looked weak and physically intimidated yesterday. And when you lack skill, and can be pushed around, you're not going to win many games.

Calling the team gutless and all that jazz while they are trying to win and accomplish the sole goal of EVERY SINGLE SPORT instead of gooning it up and basically giving up in a one goal game. The latter is more gutless and heartless than trying to fight through the adversity of seeing your best forward getting carted off in a stretcher.

I thought the Fedetenko reaction was a little weak but need to see that one again as I thought that Fedetenko basically turtled behind a referee right after it. I took offense with you implying that Savard should that they avenge the hit for him is entirely selfish and would not be the sign of a good leader, of which we all assume Savard is in the locker room. TFP's example is a great one as Ward was a very good leader.

And sorry TFP, I get confused with all the rotation of the A's and stuff and do know that Z is the captain. Was Savard wearing the A last night? I can honestly say I have no idea. Regardless, not the main point of the post.

Edited by kenneycb, 08 March 2010 - 11:32 AM.

[FL4WL3SS]

They'd have to have looong elbows to do it though.

Marc Savard is only 5'10" pal - you must be thinking of someone else.

[kenneycb]

I agree with this. The Cooke hit was a big thing, but not the only cheap shot the Bruins took without retaliation.

And honestly, did anyone actually think they were going to score after Savard went out?

So the team should just give up and go all Charlestown Chiefs on the Penguins? If they did this the ship would have truly sunk as it would have indicated they have no belief in themselves.

[jk333]

And honestly, did anyone actually think they were going to score after Savard went out?

This is valid, but its the reality they're faced with for the rest of the year so unless they want to go draft pick hunting now, a 2-1 game in the 3rd is one they need to pull at least 1 point out of.

The otherside of me agrees with you and wishes the whole team would have thrown a hissy fit, just fight after fight to the point that it runs on every sports highlight show across the country. Lucic fights, Z fights, Stuart fights, Thornton fights, Boychuk fights, Paille fights, even Begin fights... Instigator penalty on Cooke if thats what it took... incredibly physical play the rest of the game... 50+ PIM in that final period.

Basically, since without Savard you're not going to score anyway, tell the league you're not going to take anyone's shit. Highlights of the Bruins going crazy on every hockey show for the next 2 days. Cry bloody murder.

That said, I think trying to win the game was the better play for now.

[JulE6]

So after the Scott Walker incident, payback is best served by beating the Hurricanes -- except they lost the series.

And after yesterday, we have to control ourselves because we need to win -- except it was clear that the Bruins aren't good enough to beat the Penguins in Pittsburgh right now, and they lost.

But yeah, let's keep allowing other teams to take liberties on our players because we'll wait til we beat them (which we haven't yet) to retaliate

[The Four Peters]

And sorry TFP, I get confused with all the rotation of the A's and stuff and do know that Z is the captain. Was Savard wearing the A last night? I can honestly say I have no idea. Regardless, not the main point of the post.

I have no idea either, just busting your stones.

I agree with your points, though. So there's that.

[cshea]

So now anybody that watches this team and reacts negative about it is a "JulE6". Ok , let's gloss over the fact that now teams in this league think they can target our best players without any fear of retaliation. Let's just ignore that two minutes after the Savard incident, the Penguins ran our goaltender for the third of fourth time in this game and again the Bruins did nothing. I'm sorry but that's disturbing. They looked weak and physically intimidated yesterday. And when you lack skill, and can be pushed around, you're not going to win many games.

I don't think they knew what happened. They were in the midst of a line change and guys were all over the place.

I'll reserve judgement until after the 3/18 game, but I don't have too much of a problem with how they handled it yesterday. Everyone wants to crucify Lucic, but his back was to the play, and he had no idea what happened. There was more stunned shock and concern than outrage in the aftermath of the hit. Typically nothing happens immediately after these incidents.

[kenneycb]

So after the Scott Walker incident, payback is best served by beating the Hurricanes -- except they lost the series.

And after yesterday, we have to control ourselves because we need to win -- except it was clear that the Bruins aren't good enough to beat the Penguins in Pittsburgh right now, and they lost.

But yeah, let's keep allowing other teams to take liberties on our players because we'll wait til we beat them (which we haven't yet) to retaliate

Cherry pick much?

[The Four Peters]

So after the Scott Walker incident, payback is best served by beating the Hurricanes -- except they lost the series.

And after yesterday, we have to control ourselves because we need to win -- except it was clear that the Bruins aren't good enough to beat the Penguins in Pittsburgh right now, and they lost.

But yeah, let's keep allowing other teams to take liberties on our players because we'll wait til we beat them (which we haven't yet) to retaliate

This might be the most ridiculous response to anything I've ever seen, ever. You couldn't have missed my point more if you tried.

Impressive, actually.

[JulE6]

Cherry pick much?

Kiss my ass. Those are the two incidents that have been discussed in here, what else do you want me to point out? If you want to be a fanboy and say everything the Bruins do is right because they're the best ever!!! then go ahead. But don't call out everyone who disagrees with you -- and calling them a bunch of JulE6's...that make you feel better about yourself? Make you feel like a better man? Lick my balls

[Salem's Lot]

I don't think they knew what happened. They were in the midst of a line change and guys were all over the place.

I'll reserve judgement until after the 3/18 game, but I don't have too much of a problem with how they handled it yesterday. Everyone wants to crucify Lucic, but his back was to the play, and he had no idea what happened. There was more stunned shock and concern than outrage in the aftermath of the hit. Typically nothing happens immediately after these incidents.

Like I said in the gamethread, I can excuse them for not going after Cooke immediatly because it was behind the play and nobody (including the refs) saw it. However, when two minutes later they run the goalie and again nobody does anything, that sends a message to the rest of the league that this team can be bullied. That can't happen if you want to win in this league, especially when you lack offensive skill. Nobody in the league respects that the Bruins can hurt them offensively, now they all know that they can intimidate them physically. It's gut check time for this team because Toronto is going to try to knock them out of the building tomorrow night.

[FL4WL3SS]

Kiss my ass. Those are the two incidents that have been discussed in here, what else do you want me to point out? If you want to be a fanboy and say everything the Bruins do is right because they're the best ever!!! then go ahead. But don't call out everyone who disagrees with you -- and calling them a bunch of JulE6's...that make you feel better about yourself? Make you feel like a better man? Lick my balls

Should he kiss your ass first or lick your balls first? Your post doesn't specify, I think he'd like a little direction.

[JulE6]

This might be the most ridiculous response to anything I've ever seen, ever. You couldn't have missed my point more if you tried.

Impressive, actually.

I wasn't arguing against you specifically, because I know whatever argument I come up with will bring a response like this, followed by the requisite pile-on from Flawless and Kenney standing in the background...nothing of substance

[kenneycb]

Kiss my ass. Those are the two incidents that have been discussed in here, what else do you want me to point out? If you want to be a fanboy and say everything the Bruins do is right because they're the best ever!!! then go ahead. But don't call out everyone who disagrees with you -- and calling them a bunch of JulE6's...that make you feel better about yourself? Make you feel like a better man? Lick my balls

Please explain the Bruins gutless reactions to the Dallas Stars last year (long time ago but still stands) and the Montreal Canadiens and Mike Komisarek during the final (maybe?) game last year, a full two or so weeks before they showed their gutless nature against Scott Walker. Comparing the playoffs to the regular season is like comparing apples with motor oil. Playoffs are a completely different animal.

BTW I have nothing personal against you. I do take offense with your reactionary posts that have become entirely predictable. This is not the place to discuss this though so if you want to discuss your true feelings, feel free to PM me or whatever.

Edit:

I wasn't arguing against you specifically, because I know whatever argument I come up with will bring a response like this, followed by the requisite pile-on from Flawless and Kenney standing in the background...nothing of substance

See substance above.

Edited by kenneycb, 08 March 2010 - 11:43 AM.

[Haunted]

So the team should just give up and go all Charlestown Chiefs on the Penguins? If they did this the ship would have truly sunk as it would have indicated they have no belief in themselves.

I didn't say that at all. I'm just saying that people expecting some sort of effort bump that would help them win are fooling themselves.

This is valid, but its the reality they're faced with for the rest of the year so unless they want to go draft pick hunting now, a 2-1 game in the 3rd is one they need to pull at least 1 point out of.

The otherside of me agrees with you and wishes the whole team would have thrown a hissy fit, just fight after fight to the point that it runs on every sports highlight show across the country. Lucic fights, Z fights, Stuart fights, Thornton fights, Boychuk fights, Paille fights, even Begin fights... Instigator penalty on Cooke if thats what it took... incredibly physical play the rest of the game... 50+ PIM in that final period.

Basically, since without Savard you're not going to score anyway, tell the league you're not going to take anyone's shit. Highlights of the Bruins going crazy on every hockey show for the next 2 days. Cry bloody murder.

That said, I think trying to win the game was the better play for now.

I would just like someone to step up and defend a teammate on this team. Yes, last season blah blah blah but that's long gone. They play soft and the word is out. Take all the liberties you want: run the goalie, elbow guys to the head, nothing will come of it.

That is the very antithesis of "hard to play against".

[PedroSpecialK]

Cherry pick much?

Sorry, but I think Wally, Salem, Haunted, and others have a point here - this is three times that a Bruin has been a victim of a truly dirty play (four if we count Hartnell on Alberts) where the only retaliation was Chuck Kobasew trying to slap up Jones like Michael on Namond. These things keep happening for one reason - the entire league knows the Bruins won't respond to anything physical, outside of 11/1/08, where they were comfortably ahead for the majority of the game.

Look, there's no easy (or right, for that matter) way to go about this considering the league handed out a combined 4 games of suspension for the previous three incidents - in the end, I think it'll be about 150 man-games lost to injury on chickenshit hits with 6-8 games of suspension handed out. That's not right - but it's not going to change in the foreseeable future, even for repeat offenders. To not respond then and there when the entire bench saw the hit is essentially saying "look, you can run our players all you want, even if their absence will cause us to drop precipitously in the standings, but we're gonna be fighting for those two points, busters!!!!" It will keep happening until someone on this team takes it upon himself to hold the opposition accountable. Nobody in the entire arena yesterday did that, and that's shameful in my humble opinion.

[FL4WL3SS]

I wasn't arguing against you specifically, because I know whatever argument I come up with will bring a response like this, followed by the requisite pile-on from Flawless and Kenney standing in the background...nothing of substance

Who me?

I'm not taking sides, I'm being completely objective in my trolling.

[JulE6]

Please explain the Bruins gutless reactions to the Dallas Stars last year (long time ago but still stands) and the Montreal Canadiens and Mike Komisarek during the final (maybe?) game last year, a full two or so weeks before they showed their gutless nature against Scott Walker. Comparing the playoffs to the regular season is like comparing apples with motor oil. Playoffs are a completely different animal.

BTW I have nothing personal against you. I do take offense with your reactionary posts that have become entirely predictable. This is not the place to discuss this though so if you want to discuss your true feelings, feel free to PM me or whatever.

The Stars game was great. I wish this team played with 25% of the emotion showed in that game. I have no idea what happened between then and now, and I wish someone had an explanation. As for the Montreal festivities, that was more of a man-to-man thing with Milan Lucic and Komisarek. The Bruins were the better team and handled their on-ice conduct as such.

My issue is that when you're in a situation where you are the inferior team or behind in a series, you absolutely cannot allow teams to parade around the ice and do whatever they want against you. I have less of an issue with the Walker thing, but the bottom line is they let Carolina do that. They are clearly a worse team than Pittsburgh right now, and that's aided by the fact that besides the Cooke incident Pittsburgh was able to physically do whatever they want with no fear of retribution yesterday -- that's my biggest beef. It's something that they've shown for the majority of this season

[PedroSpecialK]

As Wally points out, it's not as if Cooke's elbow was the only such infraction. Fedotenko ran over Thomas in the first, and again in the 3rd in the dying minutes after the Savard hit - that whole game was an indictment about this team's commitment to each other, and personally, that's what bothers me more than anything. When you can't bring it upon yourself to respond physically after your goalie gets run, your best player gets knocked out on the ice on a blind-side elbow, and your goalie gets run again by the same player, you aren't a team - you're a group that's just waiting for the next paycheck.

[Spaulding Smails]

I'm more outraged that Thomas was run and nothing was done about it because everybody saw what happened. No one really saw Savard get hit except for Ryder who was basically trailing the play so he deserves criticism for his half-assed shoving match with Cooke. Lucic was driving the net, what is he supposed to do just start suckering random Penguins hoping he got the culprit? The no reaction to Thomas getting run is inexcusable but it's tough to expect the guys on the ice to throw a nutty right away when most of them have no clue what happened with Savard. Cshea has said a few times that after a guy gets taken off in a stretcher the game changes, everyone on the ice feels sick about it.

[The Four Peters]

Fuck it, I'm a pussy. Nevermind.

Edited by The Four Peters, 08 March 2010 - 11:59 AM.

[PedroSpecialK]

Fuck it, I'm a pussy. Nevermind.

I saw what you wrote. Pussy.

[Myt1]

The physical play on this team begins and ends with Zdeno Chara and Milan Lucic. Both guys are battling injuries and are less than 100%, and the lack of physical play is a direct result of the injuries.

Sobotka has hit everything that moves in his time on the ice. All the more reason for him to play more.

I'm more outraged that Thomas was run and nothing was done about it because everybody saw what happened.

Yesterday, I was saying that Thomas ends up with players on top of him more than any goalie I've ever seen. I know you can't move guys out from in front of the net the way you used to, but if shooters or rebounders are going to regularly just crash into him, they need to pay a price after the whistle.

[cshea]

I don't have issue with the Cooke response, but yes, I do agree with the notion that overall there's been a lack of response and accountability with opponents taking liberties on our players.

[The Four Peters]

I saw what you wrote. Pussy.

You're quick.

It didn't add anything and made an already bad thread worse. Not worth it. I agree with a lot of your points about Thomas, by the way.

[PedroSpecialK]

You're quick.

It didn't add anything and made an already bad thread worse. Not worth it. I agree with a lot of your points about Thomas, by the way.

I didn't really see what you said, no worries. And I agree, I'm repeating myself and so's pretty much everyone else. Matt Cooke is Imgran.

[Haunted]

Another forum I once posted on used to say something "Matt Cookes" when it sucked. I like it.

[Titoschew]

I didn't say that at all. I'm just saying that people expecting some sort of effort bump that would help them win are fooling themselves.


I would just like someone to step up and defend a teammate on this team. Yes, last season blah blah blah but that's long gone. They play soft and the word is out. Take all the liberties you want: run the goalie, elbow guys to the head, nothing will come of it.

That is the very antithesis of "hard to play against".

Bingo. This is my entire problem with it. From the top on down. For however long now, we have been sold this very line from Bruins management in the Chiarelli era. We want to be hard to play against. Julien used it last week in regards to essentially swapping Morris for Seidenberg. We heard it when they didn't want to pay Kessel. We heard it when they resigned Lucic. We want to be hard to play against.

When I sit down and watch a hockey game and first and foremost, I see a team completely void of offensive talent, I don't find that team as difficult to play against as maybe they could be. I can forgive that. The Bruins, however, pump up and throw lines indicating that they want to be tough to play against. Well, if you can't score how do you make up for it? Play good defense? Sure, and they do that in most instances, as witnessed yesterday holding the Pens to two goals (thanks as well to Tim Thomas). You could also literally be difficult to play against. Impose your will, out work, out hustle, hit hard, stick up for your mates when need be. They do not do this.

It absolutely was a manifestation yesterday. I don't view the Savard hit in a vacuum. In the context of the game though, it made logical sense in the end. The Pens were chippy, pushy all afternoon. Really no push back from the B's. Fedetenko ran Thomas once in the first towards the end, also bumped in close to him later on in the second and then (post Savard) ran him over again. Again, nothing. Fedetenko caught some heat from Staurt in the second, matching roughs, I believe. Letting the chippiness, letting the running your goalie just lets the opposition think they can do as they please. To the point where a guy goes over the middle, throws his elbow out and essentially takes the hope of the season out along with Savard's consciousness.

It's not about retaliation. That will come, be it in game yesterday, or down the road. It's about being sold this crock of garbage from management that they want to be difficult to play against and the help being in exact contrast to that on the ice for sixty minutes. That happens sometimes. But when you lose your best player because of it, everyone has the right to question why the fuck it got to the point where fourth line jammers feel comfortable enough to take free runs at your franchise center in open ice. Which turns into the worst case scenario where your best player is sidelined for the crucial stretch drive.

That's not whining, that's not pulling a Jule6, and it's not an over reaction. When I hear that my team wants to be difficult to play against, and the talent is in clear contrast to that philosophy, where they don't hold others accountable, they don't pay the price and they have no clear leader, and then it all manifests to the point where you lose someone you just invested seven more years in because of it, yeah I'd be a bit annoyed, and rightfully so.

[Jack Sox]

There are times in hockey when retaliation is not only necessary but also pulls a team together. Let's face it, Savard is more than likely done for the season (he should be anyway, you can't fuck around with concussions). The team is going to need all the cohesiveness it can get at this point. If they accomplish that by knowing they went after a guy who knocked out your best player with a greasy hit, all the power to them. IMO, the odds of them gelling after something like that are greater than them suddenly winning the majority of their games they so desperately need to without their best player.

[TheStoryofYourRedRightAnkle]

Marc Savard is only 5'10" pal - you must be thinking of someone else.

He is. But he's still not the team captain.

[j44thor]

You can easily make the case that playing like a bunch of pussies cost the B's the game yesterday well before the Savard incident.

The first Pitt goal was a case of the D doing absolutely nothing to clear the crease and protect their goalie. I think Wideman politely asked Dupuis to stop hacking at Thomas before giving him an excuse me cross check all while Krejci looked on and Chara took his sweet ass time skating over to see what was going on.

Hate to say it by Aaron Ward doesn't let teams get away with that shit.

[FL4WL3SS]

He is. But he's still not the team captain.

Sorry, I was lead to believe that upthread. I was bamboozled.

[TheStoryofYourRedRightAnkle]

Sorry, I was lead to believe that upthread. I was bamboozled.

Plymouth Rock landed on your head like a Matt Cooke elbow.

[BucketOBalls]

The thing is:

When your up by 2 goals....you can afford to go around beating on people and getting payback.

I could even get behind some clean physical play, smash people into the boards, knock people off the puck, good hits....etc. I didn't see a whole lot of that either.

I still think the best way for the league to deal with this would be:
1)decide on suspensions via video review
2)the victim's team decides who serves the suspension
3)the perpetrator still takes the fine and pay loss for the suspension.

I think players would be less likely to take cheap shots in that case, and any errors would probably be short.

[yeahlunchbox]

According to Fluto's blog post last night, NHL rules state any player with a concussion must be out for at least a week. We all knew Savard would be out at least that long, I just had no idea the NHL had that rule.