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[SoxScout]

Penn State's Jared Odrick, the consensus No. 3 defensive tackle in the draft, fits the personality of the Ravens' defense. In commenting on Odrick's high-energy play and toughness, one team official recently said, "he plays like a Raven."

Odrick was named the Big 10's defensive player of the year by the league's coaches after he recorded 43 tackles last season for the Nittany Lions. He also had seven sacks and 11 tackles for loss. The biggest reason why Odrick would last into the second half of the first round is he's not considered flashy. He stops the run and rushes the passer equally well, but he doesn't dominate in either area.

"The fact that he's got a great motor and had great production in college is his highest testament," said Mike Mayock, the NFL Network's draft analyst. "It will be tough for some of those teams at the end of the first round to pass on him." The Ravens, who hold the 25th overall pick, are likely among those teams who won't pass on Odrick.

Odrick, who stands 6 feet 5 and weighs 304 pounds, would be an upgrade over Edwards, anchoring the Ravens' defensive line with Haloti Ngata for the next decade. Although some think Odrick could be adequate as a nose tackle, the Ravens project him as an end in their system.

"He's a lunch pail-type player," Ravens director of player personnel Eric DeCosta said. "He plays hard. He's a smart kid. He's a good prospect."

http://www.baltimore.....ens/Football)

[roundegotrip]

Nothing to do with the Patriots, I just thought some folks might enjoy this video of Ndamukong Suh on Sport Science. Yeah, he's a scary dude.

[wutang112878]

Pats scheduled a workout with Johnathon Dwyer, see 4th paragraph

Elcaballito - any idea if the Pats are still as high on him as they were pre-combine? And do you think they would have any interest in Gerhart from Stanford?

[3rd Degree]

That the Patriots are kicking the tires on Ole Miss multifaceted playmaker Dexter McCluster is hardly new news. That they're going in again on him this late might be more telling.

New England will send a contingent to work the ex-Rebel captain out in his hometown of Largo, Fla. on Wednesday, just eight days before the NFL Draft kicks off.

http://www.boston.co...getting_on.html

[SoxScout]

The Jaguars have sent a message to the rest of the league: They're ready and willing to swing some trades next week during the NFL Draft.

And they didn't wait until the day of the draft to start trade talks.

Said McDonough, who is in charge of conducting the talks: "We're very proactive. A lot of teams don't want to have those discussions back in February and March. We're constantly talking to teams not only about the first round, but every round. You make good contacts and have good relationships, and a lot of time trades are built on relationships. It's not something we dive into the week before the draft. Teams know the Jaguars are very open to moving around in any round."

The Jaguars would like to trade down out of the 10th spot on the first round and pick up more picks, as they currently have only six total selections and don't have a second-round choice.

But they'd still like to get a second-rounder back, and they're in something of a no man's land with the 10th pick. Because the top-10 picks are paid so much money, the Jaguars could probably trade down and pick a similar player who would be paid less money while accumulating more picks.

The Jaguars don't know if they'll be able to pull off such a deal.

"You can't anticipate anything at this point," Smith said. "Teams have said they're willing to be trade partners, and we think it's a good thing if we can help each other, but there hasn't been a lot of substance to our conversations."

Added McDonough: "They [other teams] don't want show their hand completely. They may have a player in mind, but they don't give you the player's name. Right now, they want you to commit to things that aren't realistic. When it gets close and a player they really covet is there, they'll come up there and try to get him."

http://jacksonville......acksonville/k

[Mystic Merlin]

Looks like a team ripe for the BB-pickin'.

[SoxScout]

I thought that too, then when looking at it wasn't sure. Initial thought was Rolando McClain, but you might not need to go that high for him.

The only name that jumped off the page to me was Jason Pierre-Paul. He has flags, 1 year of major competition, thus lacking some knowledge and strength acquired if in a major program for 3-4 years.... but if they are watering at the mouth with love for him as a true McGinest-esque freak, I could see it.

Edited by SoxScout, 15 April 2010 - 09:57 PM.

[Hendu's Gait]

Great write-up on Berry

Had always figured he'd go top 3, but if he slips, and the Chiefs love for him is a smokescreen, and he is dropping towards 10, you have to consider trading for him, especially since the Phins and Jets reloaded at WR. If the salary cap is indeed going away, there should be a change toward impact players, and with him IMHO being one of the 2 sure things in the draft, you have to consider upgrading Sanders/McGowan. Edit: depending the cost of course.

/end of pipedream

Edited by Hendu's Gait, 16 April 2010 - 07:36 AM.

[Rico Guapo]

Great write-up on Berry

Had always figured he'd go top 3, but if he slips, and the Chiefs love for him is a smokescreen, and he is dropping towards 10, you have to consider trading for him, especially since the Phins and Jets reloaded at WR. If the salary cap is indeed going away, there should be a change toward impact players, and with him IMHO being one of the 2 sure things in the draft, you have to consider upgrading Sanders/McGowan. Edit: depending the cost of course.

/end of pipedream

Unless the Patriots defense can start generating a halfway decent pass rush, it doesn't matter who they have playing in the backfield, they are going to get torched.

The team desperately needs help at OLB, has a definite need at TE, and IMO could use fresh blood at WR and G. I don't see the Pats drafting a DB with any of their first four picks unless someone fell drastically.

[Old Fart Tree]

Unless the Patriots defense can start generating a halfway decent pass rush, it doesn't matter who they have playing in the backfield, they are going to get torched.

The team desperately needs help at OLB, has a definite need at TE, and IMO could use fresh blood at WR and G. I don't see the Pats drafting a DB with any of their first four picks unless someone fell drastically.

Hear hear. I just think the rules have changed so much in favor of the WR that you cannot stop top-flight passing attacks without an aggressive pass rush, no matter *who* is playing DB for you. Give me speed rushers and linebackers that hunt in packs.

Edited by Old Fart Tree, 16 April 2010 - 11:27 AM.

[axx]

http://sports.espn.g...tory?id=5101290

Rams won't sign Bradford before the draft. Of course they still could trade the pick or take somebody else.

[SoxScout]

Here's how over 1,200 people voted the Pats needs on ESPNBoston:

• 1 Outside linebacker (793) 17,581
• 2 Defensive end (253) 15,830
• 3 Wide receiver (38) 14,124
• 4 Tight end (22) 13,849
• 5 Running back (33) 12,482
• 6 Inside linebacker (35) 11,983
• 7 Cornerback (37) 11,493
• 8 Center/guard (3) 9,608
• 9 Offensive tackle (8) 8,683
• 10 Safety (6) 7,329
• 11 Punter (1) 5,563
• 12 Nose tackle (1) 5,224
• 13 Quarterback (3) 4,666
• 14 Long snapper (2) 3,039
• 15 Kicker (0) 2,275

Nothing a Kindle, Benn, McCluster, and Alualu draft can't address

[RayFinkle]

Looks like a team ripe for the BB-pickin'.

I think Jacksonville is trying to get Tebow but not at 10. That franchise is on the brink of moving to L.A., and drafting Tebow buys them at least a year reprieve. It may make no football sense, but it makes business sense for them. According to the draft grid, Pats 1st rounder and 2nd (44th from Jax, coincidentally) would be reasonable to trade for the #10 pick.

[dcmissle]

I think Jacksonville is trying to get Tebow but not at 10. That franchise is on the brink of moving to L.A., and drafting Tebow buys them at least a year reprieve. It may make no football sense, but it makes business sense for them. According to the draft grid, Pats 1st rounder and 2nd (44th from Jax, coincidentally) would be reasonable to trade for the #10 pick.

So from the Pats' standpoint, why would this be worthwhile? Who do they dearly need, available at 10 but not at 22, who would justify parting with the 44th pick and paying the substantial additional guaranteed money to?

[MainerInExile]

http://sports.espn.g...tory?id=5101290

Rams won't sign Bradford before the draft. Of course they still could trade the pick or take somebody else.

Wow, that's a big risk for the Rams, isn't it? Bradford has them over a barrel if they pick him without a contract.

[E5 Yaz]

Here's how over 1,200 people voted the Pats needs on ESPNBoston:

• 1 Outside linebacker (793) 17,581
• 2 Defensive end (253) 15,830
• 3 Wide receiver (38) 14,124
• 4 Tight end (22) 13,849
• 5 Running back (33) 12,482
• 6 Inside linebacker (35) 11,983
• 7 Cornerback (37) 11,493
• 8 Center/guard (3) 9,608
• 9 Offensive tackle (8) 8,683
• 10 Safety (6) 7,329
• 11 Punter (1) 5,563
• 12 Nose tackle (1) 5,224
• 13 Quarterback (3) 4,666
• 14 Long snapper (2) 3,039 •
15 Kicker (0) 2,275

Tough crowd

Edited by E5 Yaz, 17 April 2010 - 01:53 AM.

[RayFinkle]

So from the Pats' standpoint, why would this be worthwhile? Who do they dearly need, available at 10 but not at 22, who would justify parting with the 44th pick and paying the substantial additional guaranteed money to?

I don't know that it makes sense for the Pats, and I certainly don't pretend to know who they want at all. They got Mayo at 10 two years ago, so they are willing to pay that kind of money if the talent is there. If the Pats want the pick and Jax wants to move down to 22, the planets are aligned.

[MarcSullivaFan]

So from the Pats' standpoint, why would this be worthwhile? Who do they dearly need, available at 10 but not at 22, who would justify parting with the 44th pick and paying the substantial additional guaranteed money to?

I rather see them stand, ahem, pat, and draft Griffen at 22. I think I like him more than Kindle and he shouldn't require trading up.

Edit: Missing word

Edited by MarcSullivaFan, 17 April 2010 - 01:16 PM.

[dcmissle]

I rather see them stand, ahem, pat, and draft Griffen at 22. I think I like more than Kindle and he shouldn't require trading up.

I can't think of a team better positioned than the Patriots in the first two rounds. Put it this way -- if two or three years ago, you had a handle on the top of this draft and a sense of the Patriots' roster going into draft week, you'd set them up like they are positioned.

Getting fancy on Thursday and Friday, I think, would be asking for trouble with not much upside. I'll be relieved every time they pull the trigger on their picks those days.

[E5 Yaz]

MKJR

New England Patriots
Top needs: OLB, WR, ILB, TE, RB, DE
First round (22): LB Sergio Kindle
Second round (44, 47, 53): RB Jahvid Best, TE Rob Gronkowski, DL Linval Joseph
Third round: No third-round picks
Fourth round (119): LB Thaddeus Gibson
Summary: Kindle fits the profile of a long OLB with solid speed and range, plus room to grow into his body. An ideal fit for coach Bill Belichick's system in the way players like Willie McGinest and Mike Vrabel have been. He's not an outstanding pass-rusher, but his versatility is more important. Best is a home run threat, and this is an offense that needs to start considering new weapons with Randy Moss' age and Wes Welker's knee. Gronkowski is a big-time talent at TE, although he missed the 2009 season with an injury. Gibson is a great value out of Ohio State. Maybe a year early in the draft, but that's a plus for the Patriots.

http://insider.espn....s...?id=5080622

[koufax32]

MKJR



http://insider.espn....s...?id=5080622

This would make me a happy man.

[MarcSullivaFan]

This would make me a happy man.

I don't know. I'm a Texas fan, but I'm not bullish on Kindle. He strikes me as the kind of player who will get pushed around in the NFL. He's very athletic, but a bit on the soft side. I think Graham or Griffen would be much better fits.

[SoxScout]

Scott Sicko from UNH had a workout with the Pats and Colts, 6'4 250 pure pass catching TE from a spread offense. Ran a 4.53 40, so he is probably a fast riser.

6-7 round, I've seen.

Edited by SoxScout, 17 April 2010 - 02:03 PM.

[RedOctober3829]

Another good pick in the 6th-7th rounds is CB Chris Richards of Stony Brook. Seattle is high on him and so aren't the Jets. At Fordham's Pro Day, he ran a 4.45 40, 35.5 inch vertical leap, and 16 reps on the bench. He started his career at Michigan but transferred after a minor legal incident.

[SoxScout]

Best also missed eight games, including four to close last season with concussions suffered in back-to-back games. A year ago, he had elbow and foot operations.

"Yeah, he's worried about it," said one scout who has talked to Best about the concussions. "Plus, he has a muscle going down from his neck to his leg that bothers him. That's my reservation on Best. He's coming in all beat up."

http://www.jsonline....s/91289844.html

PASS

Also:

Spiller missed just one game in four years but played through turf toe most of 2009. Some teams say it's not a factor; others say it is.

"That can be a career-killer for a running back," an AFC personnel man said. "Eddie George had that and it ended his career."

• Mathews appears to be the "cleanest" physically of the top backs but still had to sit out eight games in his three seasons due to injury.

Gerhart suffered a torn posterior cruciate knee ligament and missed 10 games in 2007 but sat out just one game (concussion) since.

"He's been hurt and he will continue to be hurt . . . I don't think he has that quick twitch to get away from the big hits," an NFC scout said. "I feel bad for the kid. He plays the game the way you like it played but, gosh, it will take its toll on him."

Hardesty blew out his knee in 2005, has undergone additional knee procedures and missed 11 games in all, including four with foot and ankle woes.

"He's injury prone," an NFC personnel man said.

Dwyer didn't miss any time in his three seasons but the doctors for one team didn't like one of his feet.

McCluster, a 170-pounder, sat out six games in 2006 with a concussion-stinger and four games in '07 with a broken shoulder.

"The realism is 155-to-170-pound running backs don't exist in the National Football League very long," an AFC personnel man said.

McKnight "has been hurt most of the time," according to an AFC scout. Most of his problems occurred in spring and summer so he missed only two games.

Anthony Dixon has had collarbone, ankle and finger problems but played every game.

Ben Tate also played every game in his four-year career but, like Hardesty, has a style that doesn't portend longevity.

"He runs too hard," one scout said. "He will play until he gets hurt. He ain't going to last."

Edited by SoxScout, 17 April 2010 - 10:20 PM.

[SoxScout]

Sergio Kindle’s name has been popular among those prognosticating what the Patriots will do this week in the draft, because of the Texas product’s versatility to play down or on his feet, and his pedigree, having had Bill Belichick buddy and Nick Saban protégé Will Muschamp as his defensive coordinator. The one area where trouble may arise is the area the Patriots need him most: pass rush. He had only six sacks as a senior, but Muschamp says that had more to do with his role than anything else. “He’s really only played down for two years — part-time as a junior [when he had 10 sacks], and more full-time as a senior,’’ Muschamp said. “He has tremendous upside there. He’s probably as explosive in short areas as anyone I’ve been around. He has great hand strength and tremendous punching power.’’ Character questions have been raised as well, stemming from a DUI his sophomore year. But Kindle says he quit drinking after the incident, and there are plenty of folks in the Texas program who call him a good kid who simply slipped up. “He’s as fun to coach as anyone I’ve coached,’’ Muschamp said. “Tough guy, competes, loves ball, and everyone likes being around him.’’

http://www.boston.co..._nfl/?page=full

[SoxScout]

I created a Round 1 thread: http://sonsofsamhorn...showtopic=55601

Here is the list of player in the Draft Tweet Grid:

McShay13
DraftCountdown
MattMcGuireWF
MockingTheDraft
WesBunting
NEPatriotsDraft
DraftScout
nfldraftdog
TFYDraft
Draftguys
MelKiperESPN
NFLDraftBible
DraftDaddy
MoveTheSticks
walterfootball

Anyone have other draft people I should be following? I'll be tweaking the list over the next few says.

Edited by SoxScout, 18 April 2010 - 01:10 PM.

[mascho]

From Twitter:

@PatriotsInsider BREAKING: Our friends at FOX just released a report that two top tier NFL Prospects have failed Combine drug test

[SoxScout]

FOXSports.com has learned the two biggest names for 2010: Georgia Tech running back Jonathan Dwyer and Southern California tight end Anthony McCoy.

Dwyer tested positive in February for amphetamines, but this appears unlikely to hurt his standing as a late first-round/early second-round selection in this week’s draft. A source said the positive test was triggered by a prescription medication that Dwyer has NFL clearance to use for a pre-existing condition.

“The NFL knew this going into the Combine,” the source said. “Every NFL team is aware of the medication he takes and the confirmation from all the [NFL] doctors involved. Some NFL players take the same medication.”

McCoy, who is projected as a second-day pick, tested positive for marijuana

A source told FOXSports.com that McCoy’s representatives (Priority Sports and Entertainment) revealed the positive test to NFL franchises several weeks ago to give teams time to perform due diligence as part of the scouting process. Such honesty paid dividends in 2005 for Priority client Luis Castillo, who admitted to failing a steroid test at the Combine well before the official results were given to NFL clubs. The defensive end was still selected in the first round by San Diego and hasn’t failed a drug test since.

http://msn.foxsports...rug-test-041810

In other words, no big deal

Edited by SoxScout, 18 April 2010 - 05:44 PM.

[SoxScout]

Georgia Tech wide receiver Demaryius Thomas displayed major progress from a broken foot he suffered prior to the NFL scouting combine during a workout conducted today for several NFL teams at an Atlanta area high school, according to a league source with knowledge of the situation.

It wasn't a full workout because Thomas is at 90 to 95 percent of his normal capabilities while he continues to rehab the foot, and the 6-foot-3, 229-pound first-round draft prospect didn't run the 40-yard dash.

Thomas has recorded a 4.38 previously.

We're told that he capped the workout with an explosive, full-speed over-the-shoulder catch.

http://www.nationalf...kout-today.html

Edited by SoxScout, 18 April 2010 - 08:03 PM.

[RedOctober3829]

WalterFootball.com Mock up today

22. Dez Bryant
44. Rob Gronkowski
47. Koa Misi
53. Tyson Alualu
119. Toby Gerhart
190. Sergio Render, G VA Tech
205. Bill Stull, QB Pitt

No Round 7 mock up.

[SoxScout]

Those first two rounds would be spectacularly amazing.

[SoxScout]

Mike Lombardi is saying Tebow is leaning towards going to the draft now that he feels 1st round is a distinct possibility.

he would be joining:

NEW YORK — Sam Bradford, Ndamukong Suh and Gerald McCoy are among 16 players who have accepted invitations to the NFL draft.

The Oklahoma quarterback and the defensive tackles from Nebraska and Oklahoma are projected to be the top three picks on April 22.

With the draft extended to three days, the first two in prime time, the NFL has increased the number of player invitations. Also accepting are running backs C.J. Spiller of Clemson and Jahvid Best of Cal; cornerbacks Joe Haden of Florida and Brandon Ghee of Wake Forest; offensive tackles Russell Okung of Oklahoma State, Bryan Bulaga of Iowa and Trent Williams of Oklahoma; defensive tackles Lamarr Houston of Texas, Jared Odrick of Penn State and Dan Williams of Tennessee; defensive end Derrick Morgan of Georgia Tech; receiver Demaryius Thomas of Georgia Tech and safety Eric Berry of Tennessee.

Edited by SoxScout, 19 April 2010 - 05:52 PM.

[Old Fart Tree]

I have a raging hard on for that draft. As a colossal homer, I particularly like the idea of Gerhart in a Pats uni with the 119th pick. That draft would make me very happy.

[Ed Hillel]

I have a raging hard on for that draft. As a colossal homer, I particularly like the idea of Gerhart in a Pats uni with the 119th pick. That draft would make me very happy.

A lot of people have him going late second, I've even seen a few on TV having the Pats pick him there. I'd say the odds of Gerhart making it to the 4th round for the Pats are about .0000003%.

I also can't see Bryant making it to 22, and I'm not sure why the Pats would want to take him over one of the pass-rushers.

Edited by Ed Hillel, 19 April 2010 - 06:52 PM.

[SoxScout]

I also can't see Bryant making it to 22, and I'm not sure why the Pats would want to take him over one of the pass-rushers.

Ridiculous value, Belichick's business

I'm sure someone will take him, and if not, someone will be very interested in moving up. I could see the Pats with a very hot trade-up spot at #22.

Edited by SoxScout, 19 April 2010 - 07:42 PM.

[RedOctober3829]

A lot of people have him going late second, I've even seen a few on TV having the Pats pick him there. I'd say the odds of Gerhart making it to the 4th round for the Pats are about .0000003%.

I also can't see Bryant making it to 22, and I'm not sure why the Pats would want to take him over one of the pass-rushers.

When has BB taken a rush end in the first round? I can see him taking a LB in the 2nd and going for BPOTB at #22. Now, if Odrich and Bryant are there then you might have to think about it.

[koufax32]

Fascinating article concerning positional value. Sabermetric analysis from ESPN too. Good stuff.

[Rough Carrigan]

He, Bryant, supposedly had a pretty poor private workout, at times not even seeming to put out a complete effort. It almost leads one to wonder if he was intentionally dogging it to fall further down. I know, pretty far fetched. It would cost him money. But why else would he stop doing 225 lb presses, for instance, when acccording to those observing he could obviously have done more? I'm not saying it's *the* answer but it's one possible one. Of course, another is that he's a complete knucklehead.

Edited by Rough Carrigan, 19 April 2010 - 07:58 PM.

[John Dopson]

Schefter tweets that Gronkowski is going to be in NYC for Thursday night. I wonder if the NFL has good info he'll be taken in the first? I could see him going to a few teams between 22-32 including the Patriots.

Edit - maybe not, seeing Scouts list above. Seems odd to have random second tier guys like Ghee, Gronk, Houston, etc. invited to NYC.

Edited by John Dopson, 19 April 2010 - 09:06 PM.

[dcmissle]

Fascinating article concerning positional value. Sabermetric analysis from ESPN too. Good stuff.

Thank you. Some of us have beaten this dead horse for weeks --

If history teaches us lessons about the future, then teams have a lot to learn.





Consider the success rate of the wide receiver position. Historically, wide receiver ranks as one of the most targeted positions in the first two rounds of the draft (more than running backs and tight ends combined), and yet they experience the highest attrition rate in the NFL.





Of the 43 wide receivers talented enough to be chosen in the first round in the last 10 NFL drafts, guess how many have been invited to a Pro Bowl? The answer is a mere nine -- not a ringing endorsement for teams that continue to go all-in early. By comparison, 22 of the 47 first-round running backs and tight ends went on to a Pro Bowl.

but it can't be beaten enough. This is not a two-year trend, or a five-year trend, but a ten-year trend.

And it's consequential. If you swap out Richard Seymour for David Terrell or Koren Robison as Ron Borges urged from the top of his lungs, maybe we're still waiting for our first Lombardi. More recently, the Chad Jackson pick badly hurt this team.

[axx]

Schefter tweets that Gronkowski is going to be in NYC for Thursday night. I wonder if the NFL has good info he'll be taken in the first? I could see him going to a few teams between 22-32 including the Patriots.

Edit - maybe not, seeing Scouts list above. Seems odd to have random second tier guys like Ghee, Gronk, Houston, etc. invited to NYC.

As part of the changes to the draft, the NFL has invited guys who might go at the end of the first round. Kind of a long time to wait, but hey.

I am almost certain BB will trade one of the 4 picks. It could be #22.

[SeoulSoxFan]

Suh will be incredible for some lucky team:

http://www.boston.co...kie_ever_spent/

Smart, humble, a monster of a player and a hard-worker to boot. I'll be rooting for this guy no matter where he winds up.

[Shelterdog]

Suh will be incredible for some lucky team:

http://www.boston.co...kie_ever_spent/

Smart, humble, a monster of a player and a hard-worker to boot. I'll be rooting for this guy no matter where he winds up.

You know that's not 서, right?

[SoxScout]

McShay says Jerry Hughes is the fastest climber right now, could go #12 to Miami. Pats could be sitting on Kindle and Graham at #22 if Weatherspoon‎ goes to Atlanta.

[SoxScout]

WesBunting: Hearing one name to keep an eye on as a "hot" second round wide out is USF WR Carlton Mitchell....lot of teams like him a lot...Pats, Eagles

[Mystic Merlin]

I've had my eye on Mitchell for a while, so I'd like the move.

[SoxScout]

How about Brandon Spikes' fall from grace, when only football mattered it was McClain or Spikes... now they are saying Spikes in the 3rd at the earliest and the Lions have taken him off their board because of his speed.

I'd love to use day 3 picks to get into round 3 and take Spikes. Leader, passionate about football, hits, and is built to be a 3-4 ILB. Pull the trigger, Bill.

[Ed Hillel]

How about Brandon Spikes' fall from grace, when only football mattered it was McClain or Spikes... now they are saying Spikes in the 3rd at the earliest and the Lions have taken him off their board because of his speed.

I'd love to use day 3 picks to get into round 3 and take Spikes. Leader, passionate about football, hits, and is built to be a 3-4 ILB. Pull the trigger, Bill.

It's not even worth the risk to me. If here's there at 53, take him. What are you going to get for moving back a round anyway from 2 to 3 anyway, a 6th or 7th?

[Old Fart Tree]

A lot of people have him going late second, I've even seen a few on TV having the Pats pick him there. I'd say the odds of Gerhart making it to the 4th round for the Pats are about .0000003%.

I also can't see Bryant making it to 22, and I'm not sure why the Pats would want to take him over one of the pass-rushers.

Totally agreed - I can't see him falling to the 4th. I would love to see it though.