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World Series Game 3: Andy Pettitte vs. Cole Hamels


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#1 The Smart Dope

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Posted 29 October 2009 - 11:05 PM

Yankees, you know the drill. Win the game and go up two games to one in the series. Make Phillies fans start to worry. Hamels has looked very unlike the World Series MVP he was last year. I really trust Pettitte to do a nice job. He makes great sense for this game, I think.

In Game Three It Was
A Yankees Series Shifter
As The Yankees Won

Let's do this. 3 more wins for the Yankees, and we've got another title. No crap, just win exclusively from here on out. WIN. WIN. WIN. WIN.

Edited by The Smart Dope, 29 October 2009 - 11:05 PM.


#2 jon abbey


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Posted 29 October 2009 - 11:10 PM

Keep it going.

#3 brs3


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Posted 29 October 2009 - 11:43 PM

Boo Yankees.











Soon to be joined by...



#4 SemperFidelisSox


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Posted 29 October 2009 - 11:58 PM

Only a matter of time before Howard and A-Rod break out. The ball has been flying out of Citizen Bank Park in the postseason and both teams will be turning to guys on short rest and maybe even their #4 starters. Advantage hitters. I expect some football scores in some of these games.

Edited by SemperFidelisSox, 29 October 2009 - 11:58 PM.


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Posted 29 October 2009 - 11:58 PM

Stop posting orgy pictures. smile.gif

#6 zapo

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Posted 30 October 2009 - 08:10 AM

QUOTE (SemperFidelisSox @ Oct 30 2009, 12:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Only a matter of time before Howard and A-Rod break out. The ball has been flying out of Citizen Bank Park in the postseason and both teams will be turning to guys on short rest and maybe even their #4 starters. Advantage hitters. I expect some football scores in some of these games.


Alex, now you see
The high from banging pretty
women fades quickly

#7 zapo

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Posted 30 October 2009 - 08:12 AM

QUOTE (SemperFidelisSox @ Oct 30 2009, 12:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Only a matter of time before Howard and A-Rod break out. The ball has been flying out of Citizen Bank Park in the postseason and both teams will be turning to guys on short rest and maybe even their #4 starters. Advantage hitters. I expect some football scores in some of these games.


Ryan Howard - need
You to break out of your slump,
Call Robin Quivers!

#8 Kilgore A. Trout


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Posted 30 October 2009 - 09:18 AM

I thought we were off the haiku thing because it wasn't giving any good ju-ju and moved to limericks.
And while Howard did indeed have a bad game last night, he did have two hits and an RBI (coulda been two) in game one. So I wouldn't call it a slump.

#9 Kilgore A. Trout


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Posted 30 October 2009 - 09:20 AM

QUOTE (Wingack @ Oct 30 2009, 12:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Stop posting orgy pictures. smile.gif


Well, if the Yankees hadn't shown a talent for choking at almost every opportunity these last nine years, there wouldn't be any to post.

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Posted 30 October 2009 - 09:49 AM

QUOTE (Kilgore A. Trout @ Oct 30 2009, 10:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, if the Yankees hadn't shown a talent for choking at almost every opportunity these last nine years, there wouldn't be any to post.


Found one.

Edited by aichtal, 30 October 2009 - 09:50 AM.


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Posted 30 October 2009 - 09:53 AM

QUOTE (Kilgore A. Trout @ Oct 30 2009, 07:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, if the Yankees hadn't shown a talent for choking at almost every opportunity these last nine years, there wouldn't be any to post.

When you see all of those celebration pictures, it really does bring the point home, doesn't it. Need to find some pics showing the Jankees (thx Ozzie) leaving the field in the background with heads down.


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Posted 30 October 2009 - 10:04 AM

QUOTE (Al Zarilla @ Oct 30 2009, 10:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
When you see all of those celebration pictures, it really does bring the point home, doesn't it. Need to find some pics showing the Jankees (thx Ozzie) leaving the field in the background with heads down.

It DOES bring the point home: You win some, you lose some.

Unless the point is that the Yankees haven't won a WS since *gasp* 2000! in which case, big deal.

#13 Kilgore A. Trout


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Posted 30 October 2009 - 10:32 AM

QUOTE (aichtal @ Oct 30 2009, 11:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It DOES bring the point home: You win some, you lose some.

Unless the point is that the Yankees haven't won a WS since *gasp* 2000! in which case, big deal.


Not a big deal if you're the Pirates. But their recent history of coming up really small in the postseason while having a payroll that's what, four times what the Pirates have, that is a big deal. Especially considering how heavy a favorite the Yankees were in most of their series since 2001.
Since 2001, the Yankees have been like the Mets. Except the Mets choke in September, whereas the Yankees choke in the playoffs.

Edited by Kilgore A. Trout, 30 October 2009 - 10:33 AM.


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Posted 30 October 2009 - 10:46 AM

QUOTE (Kilgore A. Trout @ Oct 30 2009, 11:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not a big deal if you're the Pirates. But their recent history of coming up really small in the postseason while having a payroll that's what, four times what the Pirates have, that is a big deal. Especially considering how heavy a favorite the Yankees were in most of their series since 2001.
Since 2001, the Yankees have been like the Mets. Except the Mets choke in September, whereas the Yankees choke in the playoffs.

Right, I understand that that's the point YOU want to make. I just disagree. Given the whole crap shooty-ness of the playoffs, I have gone away hugely disappointed more often than not since 2000. But other than 2004 I don't think the word "choke" applies. Not to mention the fact that if you say that team "a" choked, then you diminish team "b"'s accomplishment in that team "b" never would have won if team "a" hadn't choked.

#15 jon abbey


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Posted 30 October 2009 - 11:07 AM

QUOTE (Kilgore A. Trout @ Oct 30 2009, 11:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Since 2001, the Yankees have been like the Mets. Except the Mets choke in September, whereas the Yankees choke in the playoffs.


Yeah, they've had trouble finding an ace, now they have one or possibly two.

In the meantime, amidst all of this alleged choking, NY has won more playoff series than anyone else this decade.

#16 Kilgore A. Trout


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Posted 30 October 2009 - 11:21 AM

QUOTE (aichtal @ Oct 30 2009, 11:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Right, I understand that that's the point YOU want to make. I just disagree. Given the whole crap shooty-ness of the playoffs, I have gone away hugely disappointed more often than not since 2000. But other than 2004 I don't think the word "choke" applies. Not to mention the fact that if you say that team "a" choked, then you diminish team "b"'s accomplishment in that team "b" never would have won if team "a" hadn't choked.


Crap shooty-nes (nice word use, by the way) doesn't really play into it when team the Yankees have the best record in baseball and lose in the first round of the playoffs. Maybe once that can happen, but it happened in 2002 and 2006, pathetically winning only one game in either series.
I'd also point out how they were heavily favored against the Marlins in 2003 and lost, favored against the Diamondbacks 2001 and lost (caveat- if I remember correctly), favored against the Angels in 2005 and lost, favored against the Indians in 2007 and, yes, lost. And do I even need to bring up 2004?
This isn't meant to discount any of those team's accomplishments (well, except the '05 Angels and '07 Indians), but let's face it, that is a piss poor record and a lot of epic choking for the biggest team in baseball.

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Posted 30 October 2009 - 11:51 AM

Manny said "we make
Our own destination" -- 'Roids
Or not, he is right.

#18 Kilgore A. Trout


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Posted 30 October 2009 - 12:24 PM

QUOTE (jon abbey @ Oct 30 2009, 12:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, they've had trouble finding an ace, now they have one or possibly two.


Trouble finding an ace? Randy Johnson, Mike Mussina, Roger Clemens, Andy Petitte, Chien Meng Wang, hell, even Kevin Brown would like to have a word with you. Seriously, didn't they have a year in there somewhere when they had all these guys in the rotation at the same time?
And don't say they were all old and useless. They all are now (except maybe Johnson, but he's a freak), but they weren't when the Yankees had them.

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In the meantime, amidst all of this alleged choking, NY has won more playoff series than anyone else this decade.


I'm not going to get into a debate as to whether a decade starts with the 0 numbered year or the 1 numbered year (ie 1970 or 1971). I know people who see it both ways. Counting 2000 the Yankees have won ten series. Not counting it they have won seven. The Red Sox have won eight. Count it one way and they do, the other way and they don't.
I'm pretty sure they've lost more playoff series than anyone else this decade as well, by the way. Although it could be the Angels.
But its not really relevant either way. Just because the recent pattern of Yankee choking didn't start right when they dropped the ball at the millenium, does not mean its not there. It is, and it started with Rivera blowing the save against the Diamondbacks. Or the absence of the real character core players who were gone shortly thereafter, leaving Rivera by himself with a bunch of narcissistic pricks. This actually might be why national broadcasters like McCarver have ball washed Jeter so much the last ten years- its just been so hard to find anything positive to say about anybody else on that team a lot of the time.
Whatever the reason, ever since then, the Yankees, no matter how powerful and unbeatable everyone thinks they are, have eventually choked year in and year out.

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Posted 30 October 2009 - 12:32 PM

QUOTE (jon abbey @ Oct 30 2009, 05:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
In the meantime, amidst all of this alleged choking, NY has won more playoff series than anyone else this decade.


Are you Dan Duquette?


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Posted 30 October 2009 - 12:33 PM

QUOTE (jon abbey @ Oct 30 2009, 09:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
In the meantime, amidst all of this alleged choking, NY has won more playoff series than anyone else this decade.

But always a bridesmaid, never the bride.

I expect them to get jilted this year too.

#21 Al Zarilla


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Posted 30 October 2009 - 12:45 PM

QUOTE (5belongstoGeorge @ Oct 30 2009, 10:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
But always a bridesmaid, never the bride.

I expect them to get jilted this year too.

Somebody photoshop a picture of Jeter, ARod, et al in burgundy or taupe bridesmaid's dresses. Oops, thread run by Yankee guys. rolleyes.gif


#22 brs3


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Posted 30 October 2009 - 12:51 PM


I want Billy Crystal to cry.

#23 nycdoc999

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Posted 30 October 2009 - 01:20 PM

QUOTE (Kilgore A. Trout @ Oct 30 2009, 10:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, if the Yankees hadn't shown a talent for choking at almost every opportunity these last nine years, there wouldn't be any to post.



Key word is ALMOST.


They didn't choke in 2003, did they?


They ain't chokin this year either.


Make Hamels cry. Then knock Blanton/Happ around and #27 is in reach.


DO IT.




#24 goyangfc


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Posted 30 October 2009 - 01:25 PM

Chan Ho Park. Chan Ho Park. Chan Ho Park.

#25 Kilgore A. Trout


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Posted 30 October 2009 - 01:31 PM

QUOTE (nycdoc999 @ Oct 30 2009, 02:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
They didn't choke in 2003, did they?


Stopped watching the post season early that year, did you?

#26 C4CRVT

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Posted 30 October 2009 - 01:38 PM

QUOTE (nycdoc999 @ Oct 30 2009, 02:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Key word is ALMOST.


They didn't choke in 2003, did they?


They ain't chokin this year either.


Make Hamels cry. Then knock Blanton/Happ around and #27 is in reach.


DO IT.

This is why the Yankees must lose. There will be no end to the asshattery of Yankee fans if they win. They're intolerable.

#27 kneemoe

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Posted 30 October 2009 - 01:42 PM

QUOTE (nycdoc999 @ Oct 30 2009, 02:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Key word is ALMOST.


They didn't choke in 2003, did they?


They ain't chokin this year either.


Make Hamels cry. Then knock Blanton/Happ around and #27 is in reach.


DO IT.



2003 = choke? maybe, maybe not . They sure shit their collective pants though, in no small part to Josh Fucking Beckett. Now its time for Cole to put on a clinic and the Phillies line-up to show the world that Pettitte is an old man.

Scull fuck the Yankees, and throw some D-cells while you're at it Philly phans.


#28 Zen

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Posted 30 October 2009 - 01:58 PM

QUOTE (Kilgore A. Trout @ Oct 30 2009, 01:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Trouble finding an ace? Randy Johnson, Mike Mussina, Roger Clemens, Andy Petitte, Chien Meng Wang, hell, even Kevin Brown would like to have a word with you. Seriously, didn't they have a year in there somewhere when they had all these guys in the rotation at the same time?
And don't say they were all old and useless. They all are now (except maybe Johnson, but he's a freak), but they weren't when the Yankees had them.

You're kidding, right? Kevin Brown?! laugh.gif

I would bet almost anything that - should a Yankee fan have mentioned any of those pitchers as an "ace" while they wore pinstripes - you would have had a host of reasons why they weren't ace material.

From 2003 to this year, the Yanks lacked a true front of the rotation starter. Not for lack of trying to find one. They just made poor bets. Wang was good, but hittable. RJ was decent, but old/inconsistent. Mussina was decent, as well, but also inconsistent after 2003 (4.14 ERA/1.287 WHIP from 03-08). Clemens was gone after 2003. As was Pettitte. And when those two came back, it wasn't to be the ace of the staff.


Here, let me put it another way: Those guys you mentioned... would you have taken any of them as the "ace" of your staff during the years?

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Posted 30 October 2009 - 02:07 PM

QUOTE (kneemoe @ Oct 30 2009, 02:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
They sure shit their collective pants though, in no small part to Josh Fucking Beckett.


Hey, I remember that guy. He was a stud in 2007 too. Whatever happened to him? laugh.gif


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Posted 30 October 2009 - 02:10 PM

QUOTE (jon abbey @ Oct 30 2009, 03:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey, I remember that guy. He was a stud in 2007 too. Whatever happened to him? laugh.gif


Unfortunately he plays for a team which isn't capable of spending $450 million in a single off season. But yes you're right he totally sucks.

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Posted 30 October 2009 - 02:17 PM

QUOTE (RIrooter09 @ Oct 30 2009, 03:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Unfortunately he plays for a team which isn't capable of spending $450 million in a single off season.

Sucks to be him. laugh.gif

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Posted 30 October 2009 - 02:30 PM

This is pretty funny, if people haven't seen it already:



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Posted 30 October 2009 - 02:33 PM

QUOTE (Kilgore A. Trout @ Oct 30 2009, 02:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Stopped watching the post season early that year, did you?



Yup - I didn't even care about the WS, truth be told.

That 7 game series took everything out of me. Went to game 6 and 7 in the Bronx. Almost left in the 8th, but didn't. Found a "lucky spot" in LF and stayed there, standing for 3 innings. Greatest game I've ever seen in person.

After that, the WS was anti-climactic. I bet in some way, you can understand that. I think the Yankees let down a bit as well.



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Posted 30 October 2009 - 02:34 PM

The Yankees are up 3 to 1?

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Posted 30 October 2009 - 02:35 PM

QUOTE (RIrooter09 @ Oct 30 2009, 03:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Unfortunately he plays for a team which isn't capable of spending $450 million in a single off season.



Ah, back to the spending argument....

Only a matter of time....

Gotta love it.



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Posted 30 October 2009 - 02:35 PM

QUOTE (rembrat @ Oct 30 2009, 03:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The Yankees are up 3 to 1?



Not yet, but hopefully with Hamels and Blanton starting games 3 and 4, they will be....



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Posted 30 October 2009 - 02:36 PM

QUOTE (nycdoc999 @ Oct 30 2009, 03:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yup - I didn't even care about the WS, truth be told.

That 7 game series took everything out of me. Went to game 6 and 7 in the Bronx. Almost left in the 8th, but didn't. Found a "lucky spot" in LF and stayed there, standing for 3 innings. Greatest game I've ever seen in person.

After that, the WS was anti-climactic. I bet in some way, you can understand that. I think the Yankees let down a bit as well.


Yes, exactly. Just like those exhausting 7 game ALCS in 2004 and 2007.

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Posted 30 October 2009 - 02:37 PM

QUOTE (C4CRVT @ Oct 30 2009, 03:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes, exactly. Just like those exhausting 7 game ALCS in 2004 and 2007.



2004 seems like a distant memory to me.



Enjoy them though. Pop that 2004 DVD back in for the hell of it tonight and relive it all....



smile.gif

Edited by nycdoc999, 30 October 2009 - 02:38 PM.


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Posted 30 October 2009 - 02:38 PM

QUOTE (nycdoc999 @ Oct 30 2009, 03:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ah, back to the spending argument....

Only a matter of time....

Gotta love it.


Yes you're right it's not a valid point.

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Posted 30 October 2009 - 02:39 PM

QUOTE (RIrooter09 @ Oct 30 2009, 03:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes you're right it's not a valid point.



LOL BOO HOO!




#41 AlNipper49


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Posted 30 October 2009 - 02:41 PM

SoSH Yanks Fans: Best of luck tomorrow night. I ain't rooting for your team but will be happy for you if they win.

#42 jon abbey


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Posted 30 October 2009 - 02:42 PM

Thanks, Nip. It's going to be a war, 2 out of 3 in Philly would be fantastic.

#43 rembrat


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Posted 30 October 2009 - 02:44 PM

Why will you be happy for them? Did someone hack Nip's account?

#44 nycdoc999

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Posted 30 October 2009 - 02:47 PM

QUOTE (AlNipper49 @ Oct 30 2009, 03:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
SoSH Yanks Fans: Best of luck tomorrow night. I ain't rooting for your team but will be happy for you if they win.



Classy. Appreciate it.



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Posted 30 October 2009 - 02:48 PM

QUOTE (nycdoc999 @ Oct 30 2009, 03:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
2004 seems like a distant memory to me.



Enjoy them though. Pop that 2004 DVD back in for the hell of it tonight and relive it all....



smile.gif


Ahh the life of a Yankee fan. When you win it's all pomposity and an air of superiority. When you lose it's "whatever 26 championships, I'm already over it." Either way you come off sounding like a douche.

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Posted 30 October 2009 - 02:50 PM

QUOTE (AlNipper49 @ Oct 30 2009, 03:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
SoSH Yanks Fans: Best of luck tomorrow night. I ain't rooting for your team but will be happy for you if they win.

See I actually hope the Yankees lose just to spite jon abbey, wingack, and nycdoc.



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Posted 30 October 2009 - 02:50 PM

Seriously.

#48 SemperFidelisSox


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Posted 30 October 2009 - 02:51 PM

Hammels and Joe Blanton? A competitive series that's tied 1-1 is gonna turn into 3-1 real quick.

#49 Doug Beerabelli


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Posted 30 October 2009 - 02:51 PM

Your posts smell of the vinegar and water.

But I'm shopping in the feminine hygiene products aisle by posting in this thread, so I shouldn't be surprised by it.

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Posted 30 October 2009 - 02:53 PM

QUOTE (Foulkey Reese @ Oct 30 2009, 03:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
See I actually hope the Yankees lose just to spite jon abbey, wingack, and nycdoc.


That makes me a saaaaad panda.