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[EvilEmpire]

Back in the Bronx.
Who can over-manage more?
Do not choke, please.

[TheShynessClinic]

No pressure, guys.

[ifmanis5]

Love this cover. I had it on the outside of my apt door in New York for years before I moved. The neighbors hated it. So good.

[Morgan's Magic Snowplow]

The Yankees really, really want no part of a Game 7. Not only would that put the pressure on immensely, put fat CC's seasonal workload has to be reaching pretty critical levels at this point. He's tossed 252 innings so far, about the same number at which he blew up in the post-season in 2007 and 2008. If he has to go in a Game 7 and then, even with a win, pitch twice in the World Series, we are talking about 270-275 innings on the season.

[Smiling Joe Hesketh]

Hey, I need you game threaders to read this.

Muchos tacos.

[Zupcic Fan]

Morgan's: a little wishful thinking there? I know I'm guilty of it too----but CC sure looks like he could throw another 500 innings. The yankees should just pitch him every single game from here on in like the old Cy Young days. I want a game 7 bad and a rain day too so that CC doesn't pitch games 1 or 2 both against the Phils. Best chance the Angels have to win is if the umps make some more outlandish calls, but all in the Angels favor.
Man the umping has been hysterical in these games.

[Smiling Joe Hesketh]

Morgan's: a little wishful thinking there? I know I'm guilty of it too----but CC sure looks like he could throw another 500 innings. The yankees should just pitch him every single game from here on in like the old Cy Young days. I want a game 7 bad and a rain day too so that CC doesn't pitch games 1 or 2 both against the Phils. Best chance the Angels have to win is if the umps make some more outlandish calls, but all in the Angels favor.
Man the umping has been hysterical in these games.

He's easing into the same IP territory that he had with Cleveland and Milwaukee though, and it was at that point that he started having some problems. It's an interesting "race" to see how long he'll be effective as his innings totals creep up.

[Foulkey Reese]

Hey, I need you game threaders to read this.

Muchos tacos.

Our little jon abbey all grown up. This is a proud day for all of us.

Edited by Foulkey Reese, 23 October 2009 - 09:21 AM.

[Al Zarilla]

I heard yesterday that Ozzie will be doing pre-game (I think it was pre-game) commenting for the world series. This should be good.

[86spike]

I just want to see a Game 7. Baby steps, LAA. Baby steps.

I would love love love it if CC cannot go 3 starts in the Series.

If he has to pitch on Sunday for a game 7, this is what the MFYs are looking at for the Series (if they get there):

Game 1 (10/28) Lee @ Burnett (5 days' rest)
Game 2 (10/29) Hamels @ PettiTTe (normal rest) [or does Girardi dare throw CC here on short rest again?)
Game 3 (10/31) Sabbathia @ Blanton/Pedro
Game 4 (11/1) Gaudin @ Pedro/Blanton
Game 5 (11/2) Burnett @ Lee
Game 6 (11/4) Hamels @ Pettitte
Game 7 (11/5) Blanton/Pedro @ Sabbathia

Yanks would love that Game 7 matchup... but you gotta get that far first.

[God's Cop]

They aren't listening to me! Injure a couple of these cuntfaces.

[jon abbey]

I would love love love it if CC cannot go 3 starts in the Series.

If he has to pitch on Sunday for a game 7, this is what the MFYs are looking at for the Series (if they get there):

Game 1 (10/28) Lee @ Burnett (5 days' rest)
Game 2 (10/29) Hamels @ PettiTTe (normal rest) [or does Girardi dare throw CC here on short rest again?)
Game 3 (10/31) Sabbathia @ Blanton/Pedro
Game 4 (11/1) Gaudin @ Pedro/Blanton
Game 5 (11/2) Burnett @ Lee
Game 6 (11/4) Hamels @ Pettitte
Game 7 (11/5) Blanton/Pedro @ Sabbathia

Yanks would love that Game 7 matchup... but you gotta get that far first.

I think he'd go in game 2 on 3 days rest again, and then game 6. The real issue is if it goes 7 and game 7 has to be played on Monday because of rain, then your above scenario would kick in. If NY can win game 6, they can go back to the same rotation they used this series.

I'm still pissed about last night.

[Kilgore A. Trout]

I just want to see a Game 7. Baby steps, LAA. Baby steps.

I would love love love it if CC cannot go 3 starts in the Series.

If he has to pitch on Sunday for a game 7, this is what the MFYs are looking at for the Series (if they get there):

Game 1 (10/28) Lee @ Burnett (5 days' rest)
Game 2 (10/29) Hamels @ PettiTTe (normal rest) [or does Girardi dare throw CC here on short rest again?)
Game 3 (10/31) Sabbathia @ Blanton/Pedro
Game 4 (11/1) Gaudin @ Pedro/Blanton
Game 5 (11/2) Burnett @ Lee
Game 6 (11/4) Hamels @ Pettitte
Game 7 (11/5) Blanton/Pedro @ Sabbathia

Yanks would love that Game 7 matchup... but you gotta get that far first.

I think Girardi would absolutely have to throw CC out there for game two on short rest. Without him pitching one of the two games at home, the Yankees might lose the first two. Definitely a split. Burnett is exactly what we saw last night, and Petitte is old. I do not like the CC less chances of the Yankees against Hamels and Lee in the first two games.
It would be so lovely if the Angels force a game seven. Maybe CC starting two or three games against the Phils would be moot, because the Angels would beat 'em.
But you are right. Baby steps here. Beat Petitte first, then we'll talk about how screwed a game seven makes the Yankees whether they win or lose.

[warrior]

The weather for Saturday night looks brutal, they are predicting heavy rain into Sunday morning.

If game six is a washout, what then Girardi; pitch CC on Sunday with 4 days rest or go with Petitte?

If he goes with CC and they somehow lose forcing a game 7 Monday night (can't see it, but this is an elimination game, not the Royals in August), what then; Petitte or (gulp) Burnett on three days rest?

Thanks to Swisher missing a meatball down broadway last night, this thing is getting more interesting by the hour........................

[jon abbey]

I think if the games are pushed to Sunday/Monday, it would pretty clearly be Sabathia and then Pettitte in game 7 if necessary.

The more interesting decision would be Scioscia's, Saunders or Weaver in game 6? The other one of those two or Lackey on 3 days rest in game 7?

[mannydaman123]

If NY can win game 6, they can go back to the same rotation they used this series.

Is it me that's missing something? I keep seeing people make this statement, but there is no off day between games 4 and 5 in the World Series. So unless Girardi wants to start Burnett and Pettitte on short rest too, it appears as if Gaudin will get a start regardless. Right?

Is that something they would do?

[jon abbey]

Is it me that's missing something? I keep seeing people make this statement, but there is no off day between games 4 and 5 in the World Series. So unless Girardi wants to start Burnett and Pettitte on short rest too, it appears as if Gaudin will get a start regardless. Right?

Yep, one of those two scenarios, assuming no rainouts.

[jon abbey]

So Pettitte will pitch game 6, even if it's pushed back to Sunday:

http://yankees.lhblo...itte-in-game-6/

I think I like that decision.

There's talk about sitting Swisher, but with no Hinske on the roster, the only possibility is Gardner to CF and Melky to RF, and that seems too kneejerk IMO. On the upside, it would limit Girardi to one pinch-running option.

[Kilgore A. Trout]

So Pettitte will pitch game 6, even if it's pushed back to Sunday:

http://yankees.lhblo...itte-in-game-6/

I think I like that decision.

There's talk about sitting Swisher, but with no Hinske on the roster, the only possibility is Gardner to CF and Melky to RF, and that seems too kneejerk IMO. On the upside, it would limit Girardi to one pinch-running option.

I dunno. Trying my best to see this from the Yankees perspective here. If Petitte wins, then all is right in the world for the Yanks, and CC can pitch game one. If he loses, which I kinda think the matchups suggest is the more likely outcome (although its close), then CC has to go Monday and couldn't pitch in the World Series until game three on Saturday at the earliest. And that could be a total disaster for them against the Phils, them getting through those first two games without seeing him, making their chances of at least a split on the road much better than even.
If CC pitches in a Sunday game six and wins, he could get into WS game two Thursday on three days rest at least. One more rain delay could put him back on a three start path in the series as well if its properly placed.
Although if they somehow lose that game and have a game seven without him, the Yankees are in deep, deep shit.
Like I said, I dunno. Its a real close call either way. If this blows up in their face I don't think Girardi can be blamed for a bonehead move on this one. There's just too much on either side of the argument. Although he probably will.

[jon abbey]

They can't win it all with just two pitchers (CC/Mo, in case that wasn't clear), Girardi has to trust some other people at some point. Pettitte and Saunders are a reasonable match, and NY is 19-0 against the top teams at home since the All-Star break. We're focusing on the failures of Joba and Hughes (and rightfully so), but who can the Angels trust to come in after Saunders at this point? Jepsen maybe, but that's about it. I like NY's chances to end it here.

[Wingack]

You sure about Jepsen? Yankees have been hitting him pretty hard.

[jon abbey]

Heh, OK. Santana maybe? Kazmir could give them an inning or two also probably, he'd be going on three days rest tomorrow.

[Doctor G]

Only one team can collapse or choke in this series. There is no pressure on the Angels.

[Foulkey Reese]

Only one team can collapse or choke in this series. There is no pressure on the Angels.

Yet Scioscia will still find a way to run into several outs tonight.

[Max Power]

The weather forecast calls for rain all day and night, but doesn't say how hard it is. Anyone in New York guess if we're looking at drizzles or a rainout?

[jon abbey]

The weather forecast calls for rain all day and night, but doesn't say how hard it is. Anyone in New York guess if we're looking at drizzles or a rainout?

It's drizzling here now, but it seems like there's a lot of variance in what's still on the way: heavier rain, drizzle, breaks. It's pretty warm also as opposed to last week, 67 now, mid-50s tonight, I think they'll play tonight.

[yeomen]

It's drizzling here now, but it seems like there's a lot of variance in what's still on the way: heavier rain, drizzle, breaks. It's pretty warm also as opposed to last week, 67 now, mid-50s tonight, I think they'll play tonight.

The only issue that I am seeing weather wise, is that unlike last weekend, the rain is taking longer to get here, rather than pushing through earlier. I was hoping for a serious pouring now, and thus, drizzle to nothing into the night. they are more likely to start is the heavy stuff has already passed and the radar shows that they will be able to complete the game.

The other issue is that the powers that be have pretty much messed up everything they could in this post season, except they have handled the weather well, which to me, means they are do to blow that soon also.

[RedOctober3829]

Out on the island, it hasn't rained since early morning and I'm even seeing some spots of sunshine. It is warmer as well as temps are in the mid to upper 60s.

[jon abbey]

The forecast also seems to be slowly improving, the ESPN ticker just now had it down to a 50 percent chance of rain.

[5belongstoGeorge]

The MFY will crack under pressure, just as their new stadium is cracking up.

Edited by 5belongstoGeorge, 24 October 2009 - 01:51 PM.

[Al Zarilla]

The MFY will crack under pressure, just as their new stadium is cracking up.

They didn't get all of the Ortiz jersey and it proliferated itself all throughout the structure. Soon there will be #34s showing up everywhere, just in time for Halloween.

[Al Zarilla]

This shows the heavy stuff holding off until about 10 Eastern or so. Of course, the game might be not much more than half over by then. Click on Future.

http://www.weather.c...eMapLayer=radar

[Kilgore A. Trout]

This shows the heavy stuff holding off until about 10 Eastern or so. Of course, the game might be not much more than half over by then. Click on Future.

http://www.weather.c...eMapLayer=radar

Also looks that when the heavy stuff rolls in, it'll be there to stay. If they do start it tonight, might be half a game tonight, the other half tomorrow. I get the feeling this is gonna cause havoc on both team's pitching.
Imagine what would happen with the new playoff rules, if one team or the other is up absolutely huge, like ten runs in the eighth or later, and then it starts raining forever. If I understand the rules right, instead of just calling the game official, they actually will make them come back out to finish a game they really have no chance of still winning. How would you like to be Tori or Tex trying to get some sleep that night?

[mikeford]

Make it happen LAAAAAAAAA

[Ferm Sheller]

Also looks that when the heavy stuff rolls in, it'll be there to stay. If they do start it tonight, might be half a game tonight, the other half tomorrow. I get the feeling this is gonna cause havoc on both team's pitching.
Imagine what would happen with the new playoff rules, if one team or the other is up absolutely huge, like ten runs in the eighth or later, and then it starts raining forever. If I understand the rules right, instead of just calling the game official, they actually will make them come back out to finish a game they really have no chance of still winning. How would you like to be Tori or Tex trying to get some sleep that night?

This would be one of baseball's darkest hours.

Think of this particularly bad scenario:

Down 19-2 in the top of the ninth, no one on and with one out left to go. Torrential rains halt the game for the night. They make the Angels stick around another day to end the inevitable, which occurs one pitch later, with virtually no fans at the park. Would the Yanks still jump around?

[jon abbey]

NY moves Posada to 5th against the lefty, and to maybe try to better protect A-Rod. The rest of the lineup is as expected, Swisher is in there since they have no real alternatives (and he is due to break out at some point, hopefully that's not March in Florida).

YANKEES
Jeter SS
Damon LF
Teixeira 1B
Rodriguez 3B
Posada C
Matsui DH
Cano 2B
Swisher RF
Cabrera CF
Pitching: LHP Andy Pettitte (1-0, 2.84 ERA in postseason)

[TheSoxAreMyPadres]

Just started POURING here in NYC, looking at the radar, it's going to remain like this until at least 9. I doubt this one happens

[SemperFidelisSox]

I really hope Bud Seligs decision to play the World Series into November completely blows up in his face and there are rainouts and delays throughout the entire series.

[johnmd20]

I really hope Bud Seligs decision to play the World Series into November completely blows up in his face and there are rainouts and delays throughout the entire series.

I completely agree. These forced days off in the playoffs when they aren't needed mean that you can't have any problems when it comes time to play the games. The fact that this WS is going to be played in Philly and most likely NY well into November will mean it's going to be the Battle of the Balaclavas.

[The Smart Dope]

NY moves Posada to 5th against the lefty, and to maybe try to better protect A-Rod.

Say what you will about BA (I think poorly of it myself, in most cases), but Matsui had the best average of all lefty batters (not including switch-hitters) vs. lefty pitching this year. I don't get this move, because of that.

I'm hoping for a game 2 redux; anticipation of rain, Saunders starts for the Angels, Yankees win. Make the necessary sacrifices to BABIP, and win the pennant tonight. WIN.

[TheSoxAreMyPadres]

Game is postponed to Sunday 8:20pm per
Joel Sherman

Edited by TheSoxAreMyPadres, 24 October 2009 - 05:12 PM.

[God's Cop]

FUCKING CUNT. Suspended

[SemperFidelisSox]

Bad for the Angels if this series goes 7. They get CC on full rest.

Good for the Phillies if this series goes 7. They won't see CC until Game 3.

[Ferm Sheller]

Confirmed by ESPN:

http://sports.espn.g...tory?id=4591518

[Al Zarilla]

Bad for the Angels if this series goes 7. They get CC on full rest.

Good for the Phillies if this series goes 7. They won't see CC until Game 3.

CC pitched Tuesday, was scheduled for tomorrow, which would have been full rest.

[Al Zarilla]

Rainouts are bad for AL East teams, at least they were in 1975 and 1986. Well, Sox actually got to send better pitchers out there because of rainouts, but they lost anyway. Bored. Now I have to look for a football game to watch and I loathe USC.

[jon abbey]

Ugh, another 24 hours of waiting. At least they called it early.

Before it was called, Scioscia had Mathis in over Napoli. I know LA has said Lackey will go on 3 days rest in game 7, but they're still going with Saunders over Weaver in game 6, right? Has that been confirmed?

[Kilgore A. Trout]

Bad for the Angels if this series goes 7. They get CC on full rest.

Good for the Phillies if this series goes 7. They won't see CC until Game 3.

Well actually its still good for the Angels. It means they don't get eliminated in game 6.
But this is half of what would be the worst case scenario for the Yankees. Only two days of rest before playing the Phillies if they win tomorrow night. I know people say that doesn't matter, but I think it will with their older team.
Now if they lose tomorrow night, then they are really in trouble. They'll have to pitch CC out there on Monday, which means as you said he doesn't pitch at home in the first two games, which could be disaster for them. The Phillies would get at least a split, if not win both games. Not to mention they'd also get only one day off before the WS if the Angles force a game 7. Of course the Angels also wouldn't get much rest if they won the next two, and it would be a problem for them as well. But they have more starting pitchers and wouldn't be quite as exposed otherwise.

[JulE6]

Last ALCS game to be postponed by weather was game 3 of the 2004 series. You know, for whatever it's worth

[5belongstoGeorge]

Of course the Angels also wouldn't get much rest if they won the next two, and it would be a problem for them as well.

For me, this is only about the MFY not winning another WS. THat is the only outcome that matters. If/when the MFY are eliminated then the question becomes this:
Which team is positioned better to rival the BoSox as the team of the decade, the Phillies or LAAA?

I have to add the only other thing that is important about this post season is Pedro pitching well.

Edited by 5belongstoGeorge, 24 October 2009 - 05:47 PM.