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10/6 Tigers vs Twins winner takes all.


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#1 Foulkey Reese


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Posted 06 October 2009 - 10:24 AM

This game should be pretty exciting.

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#2 NYCSox


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Posted 06 October 2009 - 10:32 AM

Go Tigers. For the sake of humanity, please don't let Punto, Pavano and Gradyhire see another game this season.

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Posted 06 October 2009 - 10:32 AM

Will it be a sellout?

#4 DukeSox


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Posted 06 October 2009 - 10:39 AM

No tickets available on the Twins website, FYI.

#5 Foulkey Reese


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Posted 06 October 2009 - 10:42 AM

At this point I actually think the Twins have a better shot at beating NY. I realize it's 100000000000000000 to 1, but at least with the Twins there is the whole reverse lock angle.


Tigers are dead men walking.




#6 NomarRS05

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Posted 06 October 2009 - 10:44 AM

So who the hell would even pitch game one for these teams tomorrow against New York? God, that series is going to be brutal to watch.

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Posted 06 October 2009 - 10:50 AM

QUOTE (NomarRS05 @ Oct 6 2009, 11:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So who the hell would even pitch game one for these teams tomorrow against New York? God, that series is going to be brutal to watch.

Nick Punto.



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Posted 06 October 2009 - 11:24 AM

QUOTE (NomarRS05 @ Oct 6 2009, 11:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So who the hell would even pitch game one for these teams tomorrow against New York? God, that series is going to be brutal to watch.


Both of these teams are significantly inferior to the MFY and have no chance to beat them. That being said, the fact that this pennant race/playoff have created such a clusterfuck may be a good thing. I subscribe to the theory that when you have a big underdog playing a great team, the more variables, the better. I'd almost rather see a battered, rag-tag Twins team limp into Yankee Stadium than a perfectly lined up, but shitty, Tigers team. It mixes things up, lowers the pressure, and may put the Yankees off guard a bit.

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Posted 06 October 2009 - 11:59 AM

I want the hotter team to win, which would be the Twins, but man... their pitching. Though it would be amusing to see Pavano go to the Bronx and shut them out.

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Posted 06 October 2009 - 12:17 PM

QUOTE (Foulkey Reese @ Oct 6 2009, 11:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
At this point I actually think the Twins have a better shot at beating NY. I realize it's 100000000000000000 to 1, but at least with the Twins there is the whole reverse lock angle.


Tigers are dead men walking.

I disagree only because of the Verlander Variable. I agree on the odds, but I'll take awesome starters in the playoffs

#11 Foulkey Reese


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Posted 06 October 2009 - 12:24 PM

QUOTE (AlNipper49 @ Oct 6 2009, 01:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I disagree only because of the Verlander Variable. I agree on the odds, but I'll take awesome starters in the playoffs

Verlander will go 8IP 1R 10K and the Tigers will lose when Rodney walks in 2 runs.

At least the Twins have a high leverage closer they can use.

Either way it's going to be ugly.



#12 bob burda

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Posted 06 October 2009 - 12:26 PM

QUOTE (Captaincoop @ Oct 6 2009, 12:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
...I subscribe to the theory that when you have a big underdog playing a great team, the more variables, the better. I'd almost rather see a battered, rag-tag Twins team limp into Yankee Stadium than a perfectly lined up, but shitty, Tigers team. It mixes things up, lowers the pressure, and may put the Yankees off guard a bit.

Well, one of the things it does is create an NFL-like "we don't know if the starting or back-up QB will play" angle for the MFYs to manage. The Tiggers and Twinkies know who they'd play after today and NY only sort of does. It's no big deal for the Yankees, really - not with the $s they spend on advance scouting and other information gathering - but it will require a little bit of cramming for the final. That's even more true if the MFYs take the option of starting their ALDS on the following day. Like you say, it's just another variable they would not face if the AL Cent. had been decided the normal way.

#13 thrawnqq

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Posted 06 October 2009 - 12:26 PM

Maybe you merge the teams and come up with one 'decent team on paper' to play the MFY's.

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Posted 06 October 2009 - 12:36 PM

QUOTE (Foulkey Reese @ Oct 6 2009, 01:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
At least the Twins have a high leverage closer they can use.


If only Gradyhire knew how to properly deploy him in October.

http://www.baseball-...200410090.shtml


#15 bosox188

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Posted 06 October 2009 - 01:30 PM

Porcello's sinker and the Metrodome's turf are a bad mix. I'm picking the Twins.

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Posted 06 October 2009 - 01:37 PM

QUOTE (NYCSox @ Oct 6 2009, 01:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If only Gradyhire knew how to properly deploy him in October.

http://www.baseball-...200410090.shtml

Well he did us a favor by graciously letting NY win so the Sox could humiliate them.



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Posted 06 October 2009 - 01:50 PM

QUOTE (bosox188 @ Oct 6 2009, 02:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Porcello's sinker and the Metrodome's turf are a bad mix. I'm picking the Twins.


There are many, many reasons to pick the twins here.

This is one of the few times where you can make a case for a neutral site. Just have them both play in Yankee Stadium(with Minny the effective home team) and the team that wins stays. biggrin.gif (Not to mention that Maur might hit 4 HR's in there and cement his MVP case).

It's some good playoff-ish baseball to watch at least.

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Posted 06 October 2009 - 02:00 PM

QUOTE (BucketOBalls @ Oct 6 2009, 01:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
There are many, many reasons to pick the twins here.

This is one of the few times where you can make a case for a neutral site. Just have them both play in Yankee Stadium(with Minny the effective home team) and the team that wins stays. biggrin.gif (Not to mention that Maur might hit 4 HR's in there and cement his MVP case).

It's some good playoff-ish baseball to watch at least.

I think the 10-7 record the twins had over the tigers regular season earned them the right.

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Posted 06 October 2009 - 02:31 PM

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At least the Twins have a high leverage closer they can use.

Who they'll never get to use because they'll be down by 20 runs each and every game.

Whatever. I've already accepted that the Twins are going to win and that that ALDS will be a bloodbath. I just hope we can avoid a Yankees walkoff. There isn't anything on this earth that I hate more than watching those phony fucks jump around like idiots and Burnett's moronic shaving cream pie.

#20 Laser Show

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Posted 06 October 2009 - 02:56 PM

Miguel Cabrera has a lower batting average over the past four weeks than his BAC on Friday night (.247 vs. .26).

I think the Twins have got this. The Tigers are going down in flames right now.




#21 SemperFidelisSox


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Posted 06 October 2009 - 03:09 PM

I wonder if the Yankees will celebrate in their clubhouse after the Twins win.

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Posted 06 October 2009 - 03:13 PM

QUOTE (NomarRS05 @ Oct 6 2009, 11:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So who the hell would even pitch game one for these teams tomorrow against New York? God, that series is going to be brutal to watch.


I think if they win, the Twins plan is to start Brian Duensing in the first game vs. the MFY, then probably Nick Blackburn in game two, and Baker in game three.

Edited by Greg29fan, 06 October 2009 - 03:20 PM.


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Posted 06 October 2009 - 03:24 PM

QUOTE (Greg29fan @ Oct 6 2009, 04:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think if they win, the Twins plan is to start Brian Duensing in the first game vs. the MFY, then probably Nick Blackburn in game two, and Baker in game three.


You know what? At that point, why not just pitch Liriano in Game 1? Odds are he'll get torched anyway but unlike Duensing he has a slight chance to pitch a gem.

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Posted 06 October 2009 - 03:29 PM

The talk was Liriano wasn't even going to be on the postseason roster.

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Posted 06 October 2009 - 03:30 PM

QUOTE (Greg29fan @ Oct 6 2009, 04:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The talk was Liriano wasn't even going to be on the postseason roster.


God forbid Gradyhire use a starting pitcher who can actually break a pane of glass with his fastball.

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Posted 06 October 2009 - 03:32 PM

QUOTE (NYCSox @ Oct 6 2009, 04:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
God forbid Gradyhire use a starting pitcher who can actually break a pane of glass with his fastball.

Liriano has been an absolute disaster this year. He'd be a waste of a roster spot.

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Posted 06 October 2009 - 03:34 PM

QUOTE (TheYellowDart5 @ Oct 6 2009, 04:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Liriano has been an absolute disaster this year. He'd be a waste of a roster spot.


I get that. But Duensing? That's the kind of slop thrower the MFYs kill on a regular basis.

Like I said, Liriano will probably get torched anyway. But he can at least blow away enough batters to have a prayer.

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Posted 06 October 2009 - 03:40 PM

QUOTE (NYCSox @ Oct 6 2009, 04:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I get that. But Duensing? That's the kind of slop thrower the MFYs kill on a regular basis.

Like I said, Liriano will probably get torched anyway. But he can at least blow away enough batters to have a prayer.

Duensing's average fastball velocity is 91 mph, peaking at around 93 or so.

Liriano's average fastball velocity is ... 91 mph, peaking at around 95 or so.

#29 ifmanis5


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Posted 06 October 2009 - 03:40 PM

God forbid TBS have one less airing of Life According to Jim in order to do a proper pre-game to a playoff game. Losers.

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Posted 06 October 2009 - 03:42 PM

QUOTE (ifmanis5 @ Oct 6 2009, 04:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
God forbid TBS have one less airing of Life According to Jim in order to do a proper pre-game to a playoff game. Losers.


Totally. If they had any balls they'd run 2 episodes, back-to-back in the 4 o'clock hour of the Steve Harvey Show.

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Posted 06 October 2009 - 03:44 PM

QUOTE (TheYellowDart5 @ Oct 6 2009, 04:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Duensing's average fastball velocity is 91 mph, peaking at around 93 or so.

Liriano's average fastball velocity is ... 91 mph, peaking at around 95 or so.


Unless the BABIP gods smile down on him, Duensing has no chance of surviving. His K rate is under six per nine innings as a starter. Anyway, it's a Catch-22 no matter how you look at it.

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Posted 06 October 2009 - 03:47 PM

QUOTE (NYCSox @ Oct 6 2009, 04:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Unless the BABIP gods smile down on him, Duensing has no chance of surviving. His K rate is under six per nine innings as a starter. Anyway, it's a Catch-22 no matter how you look at it.

Eh, Duensing's got a .295 BABIP this year, so he hasn't been lucky much at all. His FIP's a bit higher than his ERA (4.10 vs 3.76), but he's got a decent HR rate (0.76). The low strikeout rate is bad, but if he can keep getting groundballs at a good clip, he'll be OK. At the very least, he's not a high flyball pitcher.

But yeah, Duensing or Liriano, it wouldn't really matter. There's no way either is beating Sabathia at Yankee Stadium.

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Posted 06 October 2009 - 03:55 PM

QUOTE (God's Cop @ Oct 6 2009, 04:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Totally. If they had any balls they'd run 2 episodes, back-to-back in the 4 o'clock hour of the Steve Harvey Show.


Who can forget last year's ALCS Game 6?




Don't mess up on the technicalities this time! Any idea what team is broadcasting today? Anyway, I know a Tigers fan well, but, go Twins!

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Posted 06 October 2009 - 03:58 PM

QUOTE (TheYellowDart5 @ Oct 6 2009, 04:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
But yeah, Duensing or Liriano, it wouldn't really matter. There's no way either is beating Sabathia at Yankee Stadium.


Would a Duensing/Sabathia Game 1 set a record for playoff odds?

In all seriousness, what would the Yankees money line (odds of winning outright) be? -700? -800?

(For non-gamblers, these numbers represent how much you have to wager to win $100. So to win $100 by picking the Yankees to win Game 1, you'll have to lay down $700 or something. I've never seen a line that large outside of college football.)

#35 Dionysus

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Posted 06 October 2009 - 03:58 PM

This game just pisses me off. Can't we keep them both out of the playoffs and let the Yankees just play Natstown! in the ALDS?

EDIT: also fuck the shitty dome. All the more reason to root for the Tigers. Domes have no business being in October.

Edited by Dionysus, 06 October 2009 - 04:02 PM.


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Posted 06 October 2009 - 04:01 PM

Oh look, the Twins brought towels.

WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE CHIP CARAY

#37 SemperFidelisSox


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Posted 06 October 2009 - 04:03 PM

Whoops.

Detroit Tigers 2009 AL Central Divison Champion T-Shirts

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Posted 06 October 2009 - 04:03 PM

QUOTE (bosox188 @ Oct 6 2009, 05:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh look, the Twins brought towels.

WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE CHIP CARAY


I forgot - postseason baseball = shitty fucking props for shitty fucking fans.

Seriously, if you use a prop to root for your baseball team, YOU ARE AN IMBECILE.

#39 Dionysus

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Posted 06 October 2009 - 04:06 PM

"Beyond Baseball" better or worse than "Only One October"?

EDIT: Oh my god. The ridiculous suits are back!

Edited by Dionysus, 06 October 2009 - 04:07 PM.


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Posted 06 October 2009 - 04:07 PM

Woah, Sager in purple.

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Posted 06 October 2009 - 04:07 PM

QUOTE (Dionysus @ Oct 6 2009, 05:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
"Beyond Baseball" better or worse than "Only One October"?


The one that doesn't have Dane Cook in it.

Wow I completely forgot Craig Sager existed.

Edited by bosox188, 06 October 2009 - 04:07 PM.


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Posted 06 October 2009 - 04:08 PM

QUOTE (ifmanis5 @ Oct 6 2009, 05:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Woah, Sager in purple.


Don't you remember last year? His suits were consistently absurd and this year looks to be no different.

#43 3rd Degree

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Posted 06 October 2009 - 04:08 PM

QUOTE (Laser Show @ Oct 6 2009, 03:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Miguel Cabrera has a lower batting average over the past four weeks than his BAC on Friday night (.247 vs. .26).


I love this post.

When Craig Sager appeared on screen with that purple blazer, I half expected him to turn around and unveil a number 4 on the back and for a game long discussion about Brett Favre to ensue.

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Posted 06 October 2009 - 04:08 PM

QUOTE (ifmanis5 @ Oct 6 2009, 05:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Woah, Sager in purple.


Seriously, do you expect a neutral color? I expected hot pink.


Here we go!

#45 SmoothriderSean

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Posted 06 October 2009 - 04:09 PM

Anyone else living the TV-free lifestyle annoyed they're doing this "pick a camera angle" crap again on MLB.tv?

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Posted 06 October 2009 - 04:10 PM

QUOTE (Dionysus @ Oct 6 2009, 05:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Don't you remember last year? His suits were consistently absurd and this year looks to be no different.

Purple must be his tribute to Minny native Prince. I prefer The Sages in mustard yellow or burnt orange.

#47 bosox188

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Posted 06 October 2009 - 04:11 PM

Brett Favre mentioned, DRINK

#48 Dionysus

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Posted 06 October 2009 - 04:11 PM

Ahh, showboating umps. Its gonna be a long postseason.

#49 Pearl Wilson

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Posted 06 October 2009 - 04:13 PM

I miss Magglio's long locks.

And his high slugging ave.


#50 Dionysus

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Posted 06 October 2009 - 04:14 PM

Who the FUCK is that guy with the whole "bat" promo?




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