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[Sprowl]

There is no good reason to attempt that steal there. There is one out, and he scores on a single anyway.

Putting yourself in position to score on a sacrifice fly with one out isn't such a bad plan. On the other hand, once the umpire calls time when he tries to steal, the catcher is primed for a repetition, so at that point I think ELJE's better off staying put.

[Harry Agganis]

Bay!! Too bad Ells got caught

[Beomoose]

Not that they'll need it, but Ells just cost them a run.

Yes, we get it, move on

[SemperFidelisSox]

Nothing but AL east players at the top of the RBI list.

[syoo8]

To any of the resident Fangraphs experts on the board right now:

Victor Martinez was "credited" with -.032 WPA for JE's CS. Does this get corrected at some point during/after the game?

[EllisTheRimMan]

Not that they'll need it, but Ells just cost them a run.

I guess his +/- tonight is 0, because he singlehandedly (leggedly) got them a run in the first.

[pokey_reese]

Ortiz is 12th in the AL in RBI. After having 18 in April and May. It still boggles my mind.

[Papelbot]

That was very selfish of Ellsbury, not to mention stupid. Someone should talk to him.

How dare he try to accumulate personal stats in a meaningless game. The nerve!

[EllisTheRimMan]

Ortiz is 12th in the AL in RBI. After having 18 in April and May. It still boggles my mind.

OBP machines in this lineup

[foulkehampshire]

OBP machines in this lineup

Don't you mean "base-cloggers"?

[Brianish]

good point.

missed that one.

Do you think that it's worth the risk of an out though?

In this game?

[teddywingman]

good point.

missed that one.

Do you think that it's worth the risk of an out though?

Sine he steels with a very high success rate, I say yes.

[Sprowl]

BABIP <3 DiceK

[Manramsclan]

Putting yourself in position to score on a sacrifice fly with one out isn't such a bad plan.

Right. Good point. Brianish also pointed that out.

On the other hand, once the umpire calls time when he tries to steal, the catcher is primed for a repetition, so at that point I think Jacoby Ellsbury's better off staying put.

Also a good point.

I think the real issue here is, with two men on, one out, a three run lead, and the heart of the lineup up, is the risk of an out worth it for just one extra base?

Is that possible to quantify?

You would think that since he is already in scoring position that it's not worth that risk.

[EllisTheRimMan]

Don't you mean "base-cloggers"?

Until someone gets a hit. But yeah, base clogging replacement fucks... the lot of them.

Off topic: Love the new and improved DiceK.

[foulkehampshire]

BABIP <3 DiceK

He certainly paid his dues earlier in the season.

[pokey_reese]

Man, After Lester last night and Matsuzaka looking sharp tonight, I will be thrilled if Beckett and Buchholz can finish out the season with good starts. Rotation lined up perfectly at the end of the year to get them all in.

[RIrooter09]

So do you think a few people have moved off the ledge with Lester and Dice-K's performances the last few nights?

[InsideTheParker]

I don't care what Ellsbury does tonight. He is one of my favorite players, and unlike many of you, I didn't want him to go to the Mets in a Santana trade.
I am just concerned about making unnecessary outs at third, which seems to be a bit of a trend lately.

[SemperFidelisSox]

My bold prediction for the playoffs is that Dice-K will be better than Buchholz and might even be the teams #3 if they advance past the Angels.

[teddywingman]

Until someone gets a hit. But yeah, base clogging replacement fucks... the lot of them.

Off topic: Love the new and improved DiceK.

That's really the only topic of importance tonight.

[Papelbot]

So is it set in stone that Buchholz is going to be the playoff # 3?

Edited by Papelbot, 02 October 2009 - 07:30 PM.

[Manramsclan]

So do you think a few people have moved off the ledge with Lester and Dice-K's performances the last few nights?

I am back inside, fwiw.

That was a NASTY pitch by Dice-K there.

Awesome. I feel supremely confident at running him out there in a playoff.

[EllisTheRimMan]

So do you think a few people have moved off the ledge with Lester and Dice-K's performances the last few nights?

Cleveland... 'nuff said.

Seriously, I have moved closer to the window. Not necessarily off the ledge yet, but very close to the window.

[Harry Agganis]

2 Ks I like this Dice K

[RIrooter09]

My bold prediction for the playoffs is that Dice-K will be better than Buchholz and might even be the teams #3 if they advance past the Angels.

Yea I'm having similar thoughts.

[RIrooter09]

Haha I don't know why but Don saying Diddy made me laugh as well.

[Sprowl]

My bold prediction for the playoffs is that Dice-K will be better than Buchholz and might even be the teams #3 if they advance past the Angels.

I'm thrilled to have a legitimate 4-man rotation heading into the playoffs: no more playoff starts from the likes of Wakefield and Byrd.

[Savin Hillbilly]

I think the real issue here is, with two men on, one out, a three run lead, and the heart of the lineup up, is the risk of an out worth it for just one extra base?

Is that possible to quantify?

You would think that since he is already in scoring position that it's not worth that risk.

I think it's fair to assume that we are now officially in the damn-the-torpedoes, bonus-round phase of the season.

Seriousness will return next week.

[Sprowl]

Jhonny Prehalta is Nhonchalant, but he's not a good 3rd baseman.

[EllisTheRimMan]

Yea I'm having similar thoughts.

Don't.

[shawnrbu]

Baldelli is an ironman.

[RIrooter09]

Don't.

Why? Obviously I hope Buchholz performs well, but it's not out of the realm of possibility that Dice-K could outperform him.

[scotian1]

It doesn't take much for old Rocco, does it!

[The Hit Dog]

Cleveland... 'nuff said.

Seriously, I have moved closer to the window. Not necessarily off the ledge yet, but very close to the window.

you have weird property dude. how close is your house to the cliff?

[pokey_reese]

Oh man, Baldelli is coming out? These cold nights must be brutal on his gossamer hamstrings.

[strek1]

Baldy hurt again. Fuck this guy.

[Savin Hillbilly]

Fat pitch, well struck....unfortunate result.

[teddywingman]

Baldy hurt again. Fuck this guy.

You are aware he has a medical condition?

[Remagellan]

Rocco would have had...aww, who am I kidding.

[SMU_Sox]

My 6 year old can chip better than that!

[The Hit Dog]

Baldy hurt again. Fuck this guy.

yea fuck rocco baldelli, whom we acquired to be our starting right fielder and out of whom we expected 600 at bats. what the fuck is that guy's problem? he like hates baseball.

[Jed Zeppelin]

Just got in. Is this strike to ball ratio for real?

[Remagellan]

In other games, the Tigers are not closers.

[EllisTheRimMan]

Shoppach sucks... that's why we traded him right.

[SMU_Sox]

Just got in. Is this strike to ball ratio for real?

The new Dice-K? edit: I like him challenging them, and just some bad luck here...

Edited by johnlimberakis, 02 October 2009 - 07:45 PM.

[teddywingman]

Just got in. Is this strike to ball ratio for real?

Yeah, he's been pitching very well... going right after guys.
Just gave up his first walk.

[EllisTheRimMan]

The new Dice-K?

Now this is the DiceK we've come to know.

[Flynn4ever]

Reverting to the norm.

[SemperFidelisSox]

The Tigers can't even close out the worst division in baseball and people think they're going to go into New York and beat a 100 win team with one pitcher.