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#1 Foulkey Reese


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Posted 16 September 2009 - 07:45 AM

Those are our odds of making the playoffs per coolstandings.com.

Let's keep it going so Tito can get everything set without having to worry about the Rangers anymore.



#2 OhBabyDontOrtizMe


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Posted 16 September 2009 - 08:26 AM

We can "pass" LAaAaaAAAa in the loss column with a win tonight. We can put a dagger in the heart of the reeling Texas Rangers. You know what?

BURY THEM!


That is all.

#3 Wade Boggs Hair

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Posted 16 September 2009 - 08:27 AM

The Rangers broadcasters suggested last night that Rangers fans should root for a Red Sox sweep in this series, since they might have a better shot at the Angels in the West.

Let's prove them right.

#4 RingoOSU


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Posted 16 September 2009 - 08:30 AM

Of course a yankee fan would pick the lowest.
BP original
Average wins by position in AL East: 102.4 95.8 82.7 74.5 66.3
AL East W L Pct3 Avg W Avg L Champions Wild Card Playoffs 1D Change 7D Change
Yankees 93 53 .613 102.4 59.6 97.74900 2.24957 99.99857 .00230 .02670
Red Sox 85 58 .567 95.8 66.2 2.25100 96.31152 98.56252 2.13039 16.80410
Rays 73 72 .563 82.7 79.3 .00000 .00130 .00130 -0.00169 -0.48453
Blue Jays 66 79 .518 74.5 87.5 .00000 .00000 .00000 .00000 .00000
Orioles 59 85 .441 66.3 95.7 .00000 .00000 .00000 .00000 .00000

BP PECOTA adjusted
Average wins by position in AL East: 102.4 96.4 82.8 73.9 66.8
AL East W L Pct3 Avg W Avg L Champions Wild Card Playoffs
Yankees 93 53 .605 102.4 59.6 96.67070 3.32923 99.99993
Red Sox 85 58 .604 96.4 65.6 3.32930 96.10737 99.43667
Rays 73 72 .541 82.8 79.2 .00000 .00010 .00010
Blue Jays 66 79 .466 73.9 88.1 .00000 .00000 .00000
Orioles 59 85 .457 66.9 95.1 .00000 .00000 .00000

BP ELO
Average wins by position in AL East: 102.6 96.3 82.0 74.3 66.6
AL East W L Pct3 Avg W Avg L Champions Wild Card Playoffs
Yankees 93 53 1590. 102.6 59.4 96.76750 3.23250 100.00000
Red Sox 85 58 1569. 96.4 65.6 3.23250 95.86683 99.09933
Rays 73 72 1513. 82.0 80.0 .00000 .00000 .00000
Blue Jays 66 79 1497. 74.3 87.7 .00000 .00000 .00000
Orioles 59 85 1458. 66.6 95.4 .00000 .00000 .00000

Edited by RingoOSU, 16 September 2009 - 08:31 AM.


#5 Kilgore A. Trout


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Posted 16 September 2009 - 08:33 AM

It's bad luck for today's thread to be below yesterday's game thread on the front page.
Okay. Now. I want to optimisitc about this game. Never mind that Saunders has won four straight. Never mind that he's good on the road, and good this month. And never mind that the Sox are sending out Paul Byrd to face him. Not exactly the way you draw it up.
I don't think its totally hopeless though. Byrd throws junk, and the Angels aren't exactly all that disciplined. He could very well befuddle them completely, keeping the Sox in this game just as much as Saunders keeps the Angels in. It could happen. Nobody thought Matsuzaka could dance with Lackey.
It doesn't help much that it sounds like Youk is probably out again. Or that Vic might not be back from dealing with whatever his personal issue is today as well, thus cutting down the offense pretty dramatically. Although at least Tek will be batting from the right tonight, which should help him. That doesn't really make up for no Vic or Youk, but like I said, I'm trying to stay positive here.
So tonight I'd say Byrd goes for five plus, three runs. Which would be great from him. Unfortunately, I'd also guess Saunders goes six plus, maybe seven, and gives up only one or two. So the Sox will have some lumber to cut against the bullpen, in a very small window before the Angels closer comes in and shuts the door. And the Angels pen doesn't suck.
Ultimately its never fair when the back of one team's rotation is up against the front of another team's. It rarely works out well. But everyone should take heart in the fact that one, the game is not completely hopeless, and two, the Rangers have already lost their series with Oakland. Unless they pull it out in a historic way in the next nineteen games (and even then they're more likely to catch the Angels than the Sox), Tito can start thinking about how to line up that playoff rotation sometime in the middle of the Royals series next week.

#6 Foulkey Reese


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Posted 16 September 2009 - 08:37 AM

QUOTE (RingoOSU @ Sep 16 2009, 09:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Of course a yankee fan would pick the lowest.




#7 Wade Boggs Hair

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Posted 16 September 2009 - 08:54 AM

QUOTE (Foulkey Reese @ Sep 16 2009, 09:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>


Is that the "bacon is good for me" kid?

#8 Foulkey Reese


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Posted 16 September 2009 - 09:01 AM

QUOTE (Wade Boggs Hair @ Sep 16 2009, 09:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is that the "bacon is good for me" kid?

No it's a picture I drew of Ringo.



#9 RingoOSU


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Posted 16 September 2009 - 09:08 AM

QUOTE (Foulkey Reese @ Sep 16 2009, 09:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No it's a picture I drew of Ringo.

You forgot the odor waves.

#10 24JoshuaPoint


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Posted 16 September 2009 - 09:53 AM

QUOTE
dagger in the heart of the reeling Texas Rangers


Deep in the hearrrrttttttt of Texas!

#11 martybarrettoverdrive

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Posted 16 September 2009 - 10:41 AM

QUOTE (24JoshuaPoint @ Sep 16 2009, 10:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Deep in the hearrrrttttttt of Texas!




#12 luckysox


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Posted 16 September 2009 - 10:50 AM

I got Byrd for 6, 1 run. We hit the lefty. We win. Book it.

#13 mt8thsw9th


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Posted 16 September 2009 - 11:39 AM

QUOTE (RingoOSU @ Sep 16 2009, 10:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You forgot the odor waves.


The preferred nomenclature is "stink lines".

#14 mikeford


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Posted 16 September 2009 - 12:45 PM

QUOTE (mt8thsw9th @ Sep 16 2009, 12:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The preferred nomenclature is "stink lines".



#15 E5 Yaz


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Posted 16 September 2009 - 01:11 PM

Francona says Martinez and Youkilis are out of the lineup again, for the same reasons.

#16 mBiferi

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Posted 16 September 2009 - 01:16 PM

QUOTE (E5 Yaz @ Sep 16 2009, 02:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Francona says Martinez and Youkilis are out of the lineup again, for the same reasons.


And Rocco in RF.

#17 Al Zarilla


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Posted 16 September 2009 - 01:22 PM

QUOTE (mBiferi @ Sep 16 2009, 11:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And Rocco in RF.

Last night they Sox won in spite of two top guys being missing and a guy on the mound who's been missing all year. Sir, May I Have Another?

#18 dauber23

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Posted 16 September 2009 - 01:33 PM

QUOTE (Al Zarilla @ Sep 16 2009, 01:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Last night they Sox won in spite of two top guys being missing and a guy on the mound who's been missing all year. Sir, May I Have Another?


Say please! As in "please sir, may I have some more." Please.

#19 EastCoasterOutWest


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Posted 16 September 2009 - 01:56 PM

It's my birthday and I missed my weekend trip to Boston to catch the Rays series.

Fuckers better win.

#20 mBiferi

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Posted 16 September 2009 - 02:44 PM

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Lineup: Ellsbury, Pedroia, Bay, Lowell, Ortiz, Baldelli, Varitek, Kotchman, Gonzalez. Byrd. #redsox


Ugly.

#21 SemperFidelisSox


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Posted 16 September 2009 - 02:52 PM

They've got a comfortable lead over Texas. They can afford one more night of the JV lineup.

#22 24JoshuaPoint


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Posted 16 September 2009 - 03:30 PM

It would be nice to see Kotchman have a multi hit game.

#23 joe dokes

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Posted 16 September 2009 - 03:39 PM

QUOTE (24JoshuaPoint @ Sep 16 2009, 04:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It would be nice to see Kotchman have a multi hit game.


It would be nice to watch the game while in a hot tub naked with Heidi Watney.


I'll take Snowballs in Hell for $800, please.








I hope I'm verrrrry wrong.

Edited by joe dokes, 16 September 2009 - 03:40 PM.


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Posted 16 September 2009 - 03:40 PM

QUOTE (SemperFidelisSox @ Sep 16 2009, 03:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
They've got a comfortable lead over Texas. They can afford one more night of the JV lineup.

This isn't a JV line-up by choice, at least. With Youks and Victor unavailable, the only wound that is arguably self-inflicted is Rocco for Drew, and with the lefty Saunders going and Tito religiously limiting Drew's playing time by sitting him against lefties, there's nothing unexpected about that.

This does beg the question about how long Youks and Martinez will be out.

With Tek now sporting a lusty .164/.256/.511 post-ASG line and the trend continuing to move south, do the Sox start thinking about using Kottaras or Dusty Brown if VMart remains out for a while?

Late edit: English language

Edited by TheoShmeo, 16 September 2009 - 03:57 PM.


#25 Al Zarilla


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Posted 16 September 2009 - 03:44 PM

QUOTE (TheoShmeo @ Sep 16 2009, 01:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
With Tek now sporting a lusty .164/.256/.511 post-ASG line and the trend continuing to move south, do the Sox start thinking about using Kottaras or Dusty Brown if VMart remains out for a while?

Is it all hush-hush about VMart's personal leave?


#26 Andrew


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Posted 16 September 2009 - 03:51 PM

QUOTE (24JoshuaPoint @ Sep 16 2009, 04:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It would be nice to see Kotchman have a multi hit game.


Maybe Alex Gonzalez will get his first AL base on balls this year.

#27 joe dokes

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Posted 16 September 2009 - 03:51 PM

QUOTE (Al Zarilla @ Sep 16 2009, 04:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is it all hush-hush about VMart's personal leave?


I'm gonna be pissed if its VMart is in the hot tub.

#28 mBiferi

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Posted 16 September 2009 - 03:55 PM

QUOTE (TheoShmeo @ Sep 16 2009, 05:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This does beg the question about how long Youks and Martinez will be out.


Victor will be back tomorrow, Youks maybe, according to Tito "he's minimally better".

#29 BucketOBalls


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Posted 16 September 2009 - 04:18 PM

QUOTE (mBiferi @ Sep 16 2009, 04:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Victor will be back tomorrow, Youks maybe, according to Tito "he's minimally better".


Youk being out for any length of time is worrysome. Remember the suspension?

Winning with the JV lineup and Byrd pitching would be impressive.

#30 SemperFidelisSox


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Posted 16 September 2009 - 05:36 PM

Papelbon not available tonight because of back issues.

#31 DukeSox


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Posted 16 September 2009 - 05:52 PM

Game is on ESPN tonight, FYI.

#32 Rooster Crows

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Posted 16 September 2009 - 05:56 PM

After 4 consecutive stellar starting pitching performances, how can Byrd not catch the wave and pitch well enough to keep it a game? Bring it tonight Paul, and with a little love and support from the guys, you can kcik their asses back to LA.

GO SOX - WIN TODAY!

#33 kieckeredinthehead

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Posted 16 September 2009 - 06:12 PM

Interesting to note that the Yankees (2.2%) are twice as likely to win the Wild Card than the Rangers (1.1%).

#34 Blue Monkey

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Posted 16 September 2009 - 06:13 PM

so automatic triple?

#35 BucketOBalls


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Posted 16 September 2009 - 06:14 PM

QUOTE (SemperFidelisSox @ Sep 16 2009, 06:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Papelbon not available tonight because of back issues.


No Youk.
No VMart

Byrd Pitching

Why even mention it?

#36 Blue Monkey

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Posted 16 September 2009 - 06:16 PM

Thank you Aybar


Edited by Blue Monkey, 16 September 2009 - 06:16 PM.


#37 Pearl Wilson


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Posted 16 September 2009 - 06:16 PM

QUOTE (SemperFidelisSox @ Sep 16 2009, 06:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Papelbon not available tonight because of back issues.

Seriously? Why would they make this public?

#38 Buzzkill Pauley


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Posted 16 September 2009 - 06:17 PM

Nothin' like living on the edge, eh?

#39 Sprowl


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Posted 16 September 2009 - 06:17 PM

Fenway is in league with BABIP, and BABIP hates the Angels.

#40 Blue Monkey

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Posted 16 September 2009 - 06:18 PM

wow how did that not grab wall. Looked like it was coming toward 3rb when bay caught it

#41 RIrooter09

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Posted 16 September 2009 - 06:18 PM

Wow, the wind is really blowing in.

#42 kieckeredinthehead

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Posted 16 September 2009 - 06:18 PM

Angels looking like they're playing slow pitch softball. All three outs juuuuuuuust got under it.

#43 Reggie's Racquet

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Posted 16 September 2009 - 06:18 PM

No wind and its 3-0

#44 Kilgore A. Trout


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Posted 16 September 2009 - 06:18 PM

I cannot believe that ball by Vlad stayed in the park.

#45 Phragle


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Posted 16 September 2009 - 06:18 PM

QUOTE (SemperFidelisSox @ Sep 16 2009, 06:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Papelbon not available tonight because of back issues.

link?

#46 Ananti


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Posted 16 September 2009 - 06:18 PM

Byrd will not last 4 innings.

#47 There is no Rev


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Posted 16 September 2009 - 06:18 PM

QUOTE (Sprowl @ Sep 16 2009, 07:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Fenway is in league with BABIP, and BABIP hates the Angels.

Ironic, no?

#48 aksoxfan

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Posted 16 September 2009 - 06:20 PM

maybe the wind will stop for a 1/2 inning...

#49 Sprowl


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Posted 16 September 2009 - 06:21 PM

It's nice for the leadoff walks to be going to the Red Sox for a change.

#50 Phragle


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Posted 16 September 2009 - 06:22 PM

asshole.