I finally have come down from the high of last night's game.
Most astute Pats fans knew that this season was going to be a struggle on defense. With all these new faces, it will take some time for this team to gel. Nobody however, predicted a struggle on the other side of the ball. I'm chalking last night up as good ole-fashioned rust for Brady with the offense; He hadn't played a full game since February 2008. He did still come through when it counted - which is all that matters.
Other than the Mayo injury, last night was almost the perfect outcome for BB. He gets the much-coveted home divisional win, yet has all the ammo to take his team down a peg after their lofty pre-season projections. For this reason, I think the Pats will roll on Sunday.
We've seen it all too many times during the Belichick era: A very strong game that comes right after a stinker.
Pats 41
Jets 24
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Week 2 - Pats at Jets: He's baaaaacccccckkkkk!
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, Sep 15 2009 03:13 PM
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Posted 15 September 2009 - 03:16 PM
Agreed, I love games like that. All the motivational benefits of losing without the...you know...losing.
We won't see the drops and mental mistakes that we saw last night. With all the talk about the defense from last night, when the offense starts turning drives into points, it will really cover up a lot of those problems.
We won't see the drops and mental mistakes that we saw last night. With all the talk about the defense from last night, when the offense starts turning drives into points, it will really cover up a lot of those problems.
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Posted 15 September 2009 - 03:23 PM
Skrub.
Skrub.
Skrub.
Not only with the Patriots not score 40 points, they won't score 30. And I am willing to place a wager on this with you. Someone is going to be getting as free dinner at a nice resturant.
*In case anyone doesn't know, I'm a Jets fan.
What the Jets did on Sunday was fucking brilliant. Sure, I am in the same boat that think the Texans got a little too much hype this year and Matt Schaub is unproven but they were swarming and nasty. Plus, they get Shaun Ellis back for this game. So, on paper the defense got even better.
They are going to come at Brady and just keep coming. The Pats OL looked pretty lousy last night and if they play to that same level on Sunday, Brady is going to spend more time on the Meadowland turf than Dennis Byrd.
So there you go Skrub. The gauntlet had been thrown my friend.
Dinner and drinks at a resturant of the winner's choice.
Pats are going to be in for a world of hurt on Sunday and I am not so sure a lot of Patriot fans are going to see it coming.
Skrub.
Skrub.
Not only with the Patriots not score 40 points, they won't score 30. And I am willing to place a wager on this with you. Someone is going to be getting as free dinner at a nice resturant.
*In case anyone doesn't know, I'm a Jets fan.
What the Jets did on Sunday was fucking brilliant. Sure, I am in the same boat that think the Texans got a little too much hype this year and Matt Schaub is unproven but they were swarming and nasty. Plus, they get Shaun Ellis back for this game. So, on paper the defense got even better.
They are going to come at Brady and just keep coming. The Pats OL looked pretty lousy last night and if they play to that same level on Sunday, Brady is going to spend more time on the Meadowland turf than Dennis Byrd.
So there you go Skrub. The gauntlet had been thrown my friend.
Dinner and drinks at a resturant of the winner's choice.
Pats are going to be in for a world of hurt on Sunday and I am not so sure a lot of Patriot fans are going to see it coming.
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Posted 15 September 2009 - 03:28 PM
Houston's offense is 100 steps down from New England's. Its like night and day.
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Posted 15 September 2009 - 03:33 PM
Hopefully Pryor will be ready--Mayo being out has gotten all the talk, but the good guys should hopefully have another defensive player on the way too.
I don't think Wes drops those balls this time. And I don't expect the Pats defensive to refuse to accept gift-wrapped interceptions. And I do hope to see Maroney take Gholston in the flat.
And I do expect to see more of this:
Go Pats.
I don't think Wes drops those balls this time. And I don't expect the Pats defensive to refuse to accept gift-wrapped interceptions. And I do hope to see Maroney take Gholston in the flat.
And I do expect to see more of this:
Go Pats.
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Posted 15 September 2009 - 04:07 PM
Via PFT.com, this began at Ryan's introductory press conference and has been building every since. Beloved coach runs his yap and challenges the players to take his back. For the Pats it's a game, for the Jets culture change.
Most of it should burn off 5 mins into the game, but the O-line -- Light especially -- would be well advised to get their heads and asses wired together.
Most of it should burn off 5 mins into the game, but the O-line -- Light especially -- would be well advised to get their heads and asses wired together.
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We're trying not to post too many stories about the fortunes of the New York Jets, but when you combine the largest media market with a brash first-year head coach and the next Joe Namath and a sense of urgency to get better quickly thanks to a new stadium with plenty of unsold PSLs, it's hard to look the other way.
So as the Jets prepare to play the Patriots, it's noteworthy to mention that they're treating the game to be played on the second Sunday of the regular season like the game that will be played on the first Sunday of February.
''We're going to be playing this game like it's the Super Bowl," said defensive tackle Kris Jenkins on Monday, according to Dave Hutchinson of the Newark Star-Ledger.
"This is a statement year," Jenkins added. "Not just for Rex. It's a statement year for this team. We're trying to set a precedent here of what is to come for this organization and that's something we're not taking lightly.''
So get ready. Though the calendar says the Super Bowl will be played on February 7, the Jets think that it's happening on September 20.
And if they can't beat the Pats at home, it might be the closest the Jets will get to the real thing.
So as the Jets prepare to play the Patriots, it's noteworthy to mention that they're treating the game to be played on the second Sunday of the regular season like the game that will be played on the first Sunday of February.
''We're going to be playing this game like it's the Super Bowl," said defensive tackle Kris Jenkins on Monday, according to Dave Hutchinson of the Newark Star-Ledger.
"This is a statement year," Jenkins added. "Not just for Rex. It's a statement year for this team. We're trying to set a precedent here of what is to come for this organization and that's something we're not taking lightly.''
So get ready. Though the calendar says the Super Bowl will be played on February 7, the Jets think that it's happening on September 20.
And if they can't beat the Pats at home, it might be the closest the Jets will get to the real thing.
Edited by dcmissle, 15 September 2009 - 04:07 PM.
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Posted 15 September 2009 - 05:56 PM
Rex bought a replica Lombardi trophy on eBay.
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Posted 15 September 2009 - 07:37 PM
I'm so glad the patriots don't pull this tacky mickey mouse shit.
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Posted 15 September 2009 - 07:40 PM
QUOTE (SemperFidelisSox @ Sep 15 2009, 06:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Rex bought a replica Lombardi trophy on eBay.
Please tell me you are joking.
Please.
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Posted 15 September 2009 - 07:53 PM
QUOTE (jsinger121 @ Sep 15 2009, 03:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Houston's offense is 100 steps down from New England's. Its like night and day.
Houston was 3rd in the league in yards per game last year. I wouldn't say they're 100 steps below the Pats' offense.
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Posted 15 September 2009 - 11:10 PM
As with most early-season games, I really don't know what to expect from this matchup.
The only prediction I have: the Patriots will score more points than the Jets.
The only prediction I have: the Patriots will score more points than the Jets.
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Posted 15 September 2009 - 11:17 PM
Win this. I hate Mark Sanchez not only because he's a Jet, but because of what happened in the Rose Bowl last year. Cream them, moreso because of Jet fans saying "We're going to clobber them." Billboard it, Bill. Hopefully Thomas and Pryor step up... WIN.
31-20 for my guess.
31-20 for my guess.
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Win this. I hate Mark Sanchez not only because he's a Jet, but because of what happened in the Rose Bowl last year.
The whole sexual assault thing doesn't even crack your top two?
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They are going to come at Brady and just keep coming.
And therein lies the Jest (sic) downfall.
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Posted 16 September 2009 - 12:43 PM
Everyone is at practice except for Mayo, meaning Slater is miraculously back in action.
Hoyer, McGowan, Aiken, Stanback and Lockett are in black as the top practice players of last week.
Hoyer, McGowan, Aiken, Stanback and Lockett are in black as the top practice players of last week.
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Posted 16 September 2009 - 01:22 PM
QUOTE (SoxScout @ Sep 16 2009, 01:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Everyone is at practice except for Mayo, meaning Slater is miraculously back in action.
WHAT?!
Whatever he's on, please put Mayo on the same.
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Posted 16 September 2009 - 01:34 PM
Q: Are many Jets fans genetically unpleasant people?
My own prediction is 23-17, Jets. Sadly. Seems like a natural trend, which will be followed by a solid Patriot win in the second game, one that will clinch NE winning the division at that time. I feel like I can write the headlines now. Hopefully, Skrub proves prescient, and I wrong.
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PFT.com and Rex Ryan -- the gifts that keep on giving. I'm loving this, seriously:
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Earlier this week, Jets coach Rex Ryan said that he wants a raucous crowd at the Meadowlands on Sunday to welcome the New England Patriots to town.
"We need our fans," Ryan said Monday. "We need our fans to show up. Our team is going to show up [and] we need our fans to show up. We need to be loud and make it miserable on them."
Well, Ryan has rolled up his sleeves in an effort to get as many sets of vocal cords into the venue as possible.
According to Adam Schefter of ESPN, every Jets season-ticket holder received a voice message from Ryan. Here's what it said:
"Hey this is Rex Ryan, the head coach of the New York Jets. I just wanted to let you know how much we need you this week. I've already admitted that the Patriots have a better head coach and they have a better quarterback than us. But we're going to see who has the better team.
"The other part that I'm confident in is, they've got to face you and they've got to face the rest of our fans. My challenge to you is that we need you at your best. So get ready to go for four quarters, get after them, especially when our defense is up there, we really need you. We want it to be miserable for Brady and company and seem like there are 13 or 14 guys out there on defense. It's tough enough when there's 11. But when our fans are into it, it's almost impossible to do anything against us.
"That's my challenge to you. Again, I admit I'm not as good as Belichick, but at the end of the game, I want to be 1-0 against him. So help me out if you don't mind. That's my challenge, OK? Thank you. Bye."
Though we've been critical of some of the things that Ryan has said and done, there's something about this specific development that we like.
Either way, the college football/pro wrestling dynamic that Ryan has introduced to his team's top rivalry means that Sunday's game will be even more compelling than it otherwise would have been.
"We need our fans," Ryan said Monday. "We need our fans to show up. Our team is going to show up [and] we need our fans to show up. We need to be loud and make it miserable on them."
Well, Ryan has rolled up his sleeves in an effort to get as many sets of vocal cords into the venue as possible.
According to Adam Schefter of ESPN, every Jets season-ticket holder received a voice message from Ryan. Here's what it said:
"Hey this is Rex Ryan, the head coach of the New York Jets. I just wanted to let you know how much we need you this week. I've already admitted that the Patriots have a better head coach and they have a better quarterback than us. But we're going to see who has the better team.
"The other part that I'm confident in is, they've got to face you and they've got to face the rest of our fans. My challenge to you is that we need you at your best. So get ready to go for four quarters, get after them, especially when our defense is up there, we really need you. We want it to be miserable for Brady and company and seem like there are 13 or 14 guys out there on defense. It's tough enough when there's 11. But when our fans are into it, it's almost impossible to do anything against us.
"That's my challenge to you. Again, I admit I'm not as good as Belichick, but at the end of the game, I want to be 1-0 against him. So help me out if you don't mind. That's my challenge, OK? Thank you. Bye."
Though we've been critical of some of the things that Ryan has said and done, there's something about this specific development that we like.
Either way, the college football/pro wrestling dynamic that Ryan has introduced to his team's top rivalry means that Sunday's game will be even more compelling than it otherwise would have been.
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"Hey this is Rex Ryan, the head coach of the New York Jets. I just wanted to let you know how much we need you this week. I've already admitted that the Patriots have a better head coach and they have a better quarterback than us. But we're going to see who has the better team.
"The other part that I'm confident in is, they've got to face you and they've got to face the rest of our fans. My challenge to you is that we need you at your best. So get ready to go for four quarters, get after them, especially when our defense is up there, we really need you. We want it to be miserable for Brady and company and seem like there are 13 or 14 guys out there on defense. It's tough enough when there's 11. But when our fans are into it, it's almost impossible to do anything against us.
"That's my challenge to you. Again, I admit I'm not as good as Belichick, but at the end of the game, I want to be 1-0 against him. So help me out if you don't mind. That's my challenge, OK? Thank you. Bye."
"The other part that I'm confident in is, they've got to face you and they've got to face the rest of our fans. My challenge to you is that we need you at your best. So get ready to go for four quarters, get after them, especially when our defense is up there, we really need you. We want it to be miserable for Brady and company and seem like there are 13 or 14 guys out there on defense. It's tough enough when there's 11. But when our fans are into it, it's almost impossible to do anything against us.
"That's my challenge to you. Again, I admit I'm not as good as Belichick, but at the end of the game, I want to be 1-0 against him. So help me out if you don't mind. That's my challenge, OK? Thank you. Bye."
This is pure gold, Jerry. I hope Ryan gets the same return on his words as this guy will on Saturday.
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Posted 16 September 2009 - 02:51 PM
QUOTE (Commander Shears @ Sep 16 2009, 12:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The whole sexual assault thing doesn't even crack your top two?
Not if had a "lack of evidence beyond a reasonable doubt." Besides, she engaged willingly in other conduct, such as kissing on the bed. I don't think that makes right at all (especially because she did not approve of him going further with her; she's right to have a case there; I'd actually defend her more over Mark), it's just that this incident was a little sticky, anyway, and not just on Sanchez's part. I know this type of the thing happens to some athletes, this one just gives me mixed feelings. (You should also note I fully disapprove of Kobe's similar actions- don't call me a racist. Kobe's case just sounds more plausible.)
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Seriously, that's some loser behavior there by Rex. I do think (obviously) BB is a better coach, but, to put that on that message? Pathetic, yet wildly hilarious. It just made my day.
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Posted 16 September 2009 - 02:53 PM
Here is the audio of Rex Ryan's call: http://www.bostonher...09/rex-ryan.wav
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QUOTE (SoxScout @ Sep 16 2009, 03:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Here is the audio of Rex Ryan's call: http://www.bostonher...09/rex-ryan.wav
God I want to bask in the sound of 60,000 silent people on Sunday.
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And here's the obligatory link to TGG forums. Dominated by Pats related threads.
The overall level of pure hatred and spite, sprinkled with thinly veiled jealousy and inferiority complex.
http://forums.thegan...isplay.php?f=10
Heh, hey I think they might be talking about us:
http://forums.thegan...ead.php?t=48244
The overall level of pure hatred and spite, sprinkled with thinly veiled jealousy and inferiority complex.
http://forums.thegan...isplay.php?f=10
Heh, hey I think they might be talking about us:
http://forums.thegan...ead.php?t=48244
Edited by SeoulSoxFan, 16 September 2009 - 03:24 PM.
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QUOTE (dynomite @ Sep 16 2009, 03:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
God I want to bask in the sound of 60,000 silent people on Sunday.
Pats fan here, and I think whoever said they lose this one and then win the second soundly is spot on. It's not how you start the season but how you end it, and I don't think we're firing on all cylinders yet. Enjoy the win Jets fans, it won't mean much at the end of the season.
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QUOTE (jcd0805 @ Sep 16 2009, 04:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Pats fan here, and I think whoever said they lose this one and then win the second soundly is spot on. It's not how you start the season but how you end it, and I don't think we're firing on all cylinders yet. Enjoy the win Jets fans, it won't mean much at the end of the season.
I hear Vegas would like to invite you for a nice long weekend. "Enjoy the win Jets fans"? Is Brady still on his honeymoon?
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Posted 16 September 2009 - 03:29 PM
QUOTE (SeoulSoxFan @ Sep 16 2009, 03:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I hear Vegas would like to invite you for a nice long weekend. "Enjoy the win Jets fans"? Is Brady still on his honeymoon?
Hey I'd love to be wrong, just saw alot out of the Jets this weekend and feel the Pats need a bit of time to truly start showing what they can do.
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That phone message is ridiculous. As I was reading the PFT post, I figured it was a joke. Then I hear the audio...what an assclown. I can't believe this guy is a head coach.
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Mayo, Jerod LB Knee
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QUOTE (SoxScout @ Sep 16 2009, 04:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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Slater, Matthew WR Elbow
How the hell can Slater practice with half an arm?
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QUOTE (jcd0805 @ Sep 16 2009, 04:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey I'd love to be wrong, just saw alot out of the Jets this weekend and feel the Pats need a bit of time to truly start showing what they can do.
The Pats need some time, but you're completely buying into what the Jets did with a new coach, rookie QB, etc? You have to expect growing pains, and their first big divisional game, and against BB, would seem to be a time for struggles.
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QUOTE (SeoulSoxFan @ Sep 16 2009, 05:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How the hell can Slater practice with half an arm?
I love it. When Slater goes down with his arm looking like its broken in half I assume wow he's lucky, IR for the year and he gets a shot next year. Somehow he makes the roster and practices a week later like he's Superman. Meanwhile Mayo rolls an ankle seemingly and gets 6-8. Crable can't lace up his shoes without going on IR. Nice luck.
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QUOTE (John Dopson @ Sep 16 2009, 08:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I love it. When Slater goes down with his arm looking like its broken in half I assume wow he's lucky, IR for the year and he gets a shot next year. Somehow he makes the roster and practices a week later like he's Superman. Meanwhile Mayo rolls an ankle seemingly and gets 6-8. Crable can't lace up his shoes without going on IR. Nice luck.
I was thinking the exact same thing; Mayo was walking around just after the injury and looked fine while Slater looked cooked. Now Slater is practiing and Mayo is done for a while, hopefully not for as long as 8 weeks.
Regardless, I think the Pats win because Sanchez will be facing a BB defense for the first time, and he will get very confused at points. The kid got some lucky breaks last week with some very bad throws, and he may not be so lucky this time.
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QUOTE (Soxy Brown @ Sep 16 2009, 04:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That phone message is ridiculous. As I was reading the PFT post, I figured it was a joke. Then I hear the audio...what an assclown. I can't believe this guy is a head coach.
Brady says it's important, but not the Super Bowl, which gets played in Feb -- and game on:
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FOXBOROUGH, Mass. -- Tom Brady had a succinct response to all the talking New York Jets coach Rex Ryan has done about the New England Patriots and their coach.
"Talk is cheap," the quarterback said Wednesday with a smile.
"Talk is cheap," the quarterback said Wednesday with a smile.
The details are here:
http://sports.espn.g...tory?id=4478221
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Rex Ryan's defense has always looked better against young QBs than poised veterans who are accurate (e.g,. Peyton and Brady). Also, BB is 5-1 against rookie QBs for a reason. He's had a week to look at film to see what Sanchez can and cannot do and I expect Sanchez to struggle.
Pats win this game handily.
Pats win this game handily.
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In case the Pats needed any more bulletin board fodder, here is a note from Kerry Rhodes:
link: http://www.nydailyne...09-17_jets.html
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“You go out from the first quarter on, from the first play on, and try to embarrass them,” Rhodes said. “Not just go out there and try to win, try to embarrass them. Try to make them feel bad when they leave here. We don’t want to just beat them. We want to send a message to them, ‘We’re not backing down from you and we expect to win this game, and it’s not going to be luck, it’s not going to be a mistake.’ ”
link: http://www.nydailyne...09-17_jets.html
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Great article on CHFF about Bradys abilty to win when having to carry the load http://www.coldhardf...Mad_Bomber.html
Also there is a great little nugget in there about how the Pats have not lost a regular season game that Brady has started since 12/06. The Jets D is very good, but #12 and this offense is not so bad either- I believe at the end of the day the Pats defense needs to come up with no more than 3 stops and the Pats win. It will be interesting to see if the Pats use an extra lineman again to combat the blitz, or if they spread them out and pick them apart underneath. I believe we could se a bunch of Moss in motion and playing out of the slot in this game. I would not be surprised to see this become a ball control game with the Pats short passing game, and the Jets trying to run the ball- I dont think either team will have a bunch of possessions at the end of this one. My prediction Pats 24-13.
Also there is a great little nugget in there about how the Pats have not lost a regular season game that Brady has started since 12/06. The Jets D is very good, but #12 and this offense is not so bad either- I believe at the end of the day the Pats defense needs to come up with no more than 3 stops and the Pats win. It will be interesting to see if the Pats use an extra lineman again to combat the blitz, or if they spread them out and pick them apart underneath. I believe we could se a bunch of Moss in motion and playing out of the slot in this game. I would not be surprised to see this become a ball control game with the Pats short passing game, and the Jets trying to run the ball- I dont think either team will have a bunch of possessions at the end of this one. My prediction Pats 24-13.
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QUOTE (wade boggs chicken dinner @ Sep 17 2009, 09:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Rex Ryan's defense has always looked better against young QBs than poised veterans who are accurate (e.g,. Peyton and Brady). Also, BB is 5-1 against rookie QBs for a reason. He's had a week to look at film to see what Sanchez can and cannot do and I expect Sanchez to struggle.
Pats win this game handily.
Pats win this game handily.
Belichick said yesterday that if you're playing Ryan, you're playing Baltimore's defense. Hyperbole in terms of the quality of personnel, almost certainly, but in terms of the basic approach, right on.
This is how Brady has fared in two career games vs the Ravens. Winning efforts, solid enough, but unspectacular. Completion percentage 50 or below, passer rating in the 70 range, not a lot of picks or TDs.
http://www.nfl.com/p...amp;season=2004
http://www.nfl.com/p...amp;season=2007
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QUOTE (pokey_reese @ Sep 17 2009, 09:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
In case the Pats needed any more bulletin board fodder, here is a note from Kerry Rhodes:
link: http://www.nydailyne...09-17_jets.html
link: http://www.nydailyne...09-17_jets.html
Wow. And he's a player that has always has a good relationship with BB. Rexy et al. are talking a big game--if they lose, especially if they lose badly, things could get pretty ugly over there.
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Posted 17 September 2009 - 11:27 AM
QUOTE (kolbitr @ Sep 16 2009, 02:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Q: Are many Jets fans genetically unpleasant people?
Being a Jets fan is an infection; it's not genetic.
QUOTE (dynomite @ Sep 16 2009, 04:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
God I want to bask in the sound of 60,000 silent people on Sunday.
Oh come on--does anybody really think this won't work?
I have every confidence that all over northern New Jersey potato chip crumbs and empty cans of Milwaukee's Best were strewn about as Jets fans sat bolt upright from the squalor of their couches exclaiming, "Coach needs me!!" and proceeded to jump into their IROC-Zs, peel out humming "na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na," mullet flapping in the breeze, squeal to a halt in front of their buddies' houses shouting, "Mike! Quick! Get in! We gotta get to the mall and buy Sanchez jerseys and plastic construction worker helmets stat!!"
Edited by Reverend, 17 September 2009 - 11:30 AM.
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Posted 17 September 2009 - 11:57 AM
This reminds me of an Open Letter to Bill Parcells that was written by Jest Superfan Fireman Ed and published in the NY Post circa 1999-2000 (couldn't find it), when Parcells was about to bolt the Jets after the '99 season (that was Testeverde's Achilles rupture campaign). "Don't quit on us! Suck it up and finish the job!" etc etc.
The rhetoric, cadence, and jingoism is very similar to Rex Ryan's personal VM's to his fandom.
The rhetoric, cadence, and jingoism is very similar to Rex Ryan's personal VM's to his fandom.
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Posted 17 September 2009 - 11:57 AM
"You go out from the first quarter on, from the first play on, and try to embarrass them," Rhodes said, according to the New York Daily News. "Not just go out there and try to win, try to embarrass them. Try to make them feel bad when they leave here. We don't want to just beat them. We want to send a message to them, 'We're not backing down from you and we expect to win this game, and it's not going to be luck, it's not going to be a mistake.' "
When will other teams get it? Between these idiots shooting their mouths off and the line opening at 6.5 and moving to 3.5, I'm going to bury the pats this weekend, hopefully the public keeps loading on the Jets and that line moves more.
FYI, lines moving more than 3 points last week were 4-1 when you bet the other way. Fade the public my friends.
But ya about the game, I don't see the Jets stopping all the Pats weapons for 4 quarters, something in the 24-14 range seems likely for the boys this weekend.
When will other teams get it? Between these idiots shooting their mouths off and the line opening at 6.5 and moving to 3.5, I'm going to bury the pats this weekend, hopefully the public keeps loading on the Jets and that line moves more.
FYI, lines moving more than 3 points last week were 4-1 when you bet the other way. Fade the public my friends.
But ya about the game, I don't see the Jets stopping all the Pats weapons for 4 quarters, something in the 24-14 range seems likely for the boys this weekend.
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Posted 17 September 2009 - 02:45 PM
I must say I love all the score predictions when you were all so dead on last week.
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Posted 17 September 2009 - 03:10 PM
Same injury report as yesterday except with Morris off and Neal (back) having limited participation
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Posted 17 September 2009 - 07:26 PM
55-10 Patriots
I'm a bit bearish on the Pats' offense, but we'll see.
I'm a bit bearish on the Pats' offense, but we'll see.
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Posted 17 September 2009 - 08:47 PM
QUOTE (SeanBerry @ Sep 17 2009, 03:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I must say I love all the score predictions when you were all so dead on last week.
Do you have one?
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Posted 17 September 2009 - 08:59 PM
QUOTE (CrackpotTheory @ Sep 17 2009, 09:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Do you have one?
Eh.
It's the second week of the season and it's kind of a stupid practice anyway.
I do think the following:
-The Pats won't score 30+ points and I made a bet with Skrub who disagrees.
-The Pats defense is not very good and the Jets offense is just OK. I am interested in seeing how the Pats deal with the Jets running game which is pretty damn good after facing the Bills running game which is pretty fucking horrible.
-The Patriots are going to have a very difficult time protecting Brady.
If someone put a gun to my head:
Jets 27
Pats 21
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Posted 17 September 2009 - 09:39 PM
Alright, I'll play.
24-13 Pats
I think it will be a relatively uneventful game, despite all of the bluster leading into it. The Jets will never really threaten, but the score will be close enough that they're one big play away from winning it. They won't make that play and the Pats will pull away late.
I disagree with the logic of the poster who said that the Pats will lose this game, then win the second one. I don't think this Jets team is ready for primetime quite yet, but I think they will get better as the season progresses.
You have to think that the Pats will play better than they did on Monday. They have a full week to prepare without Mayo, whereas they had to change their whole defensive scheme in the 1st quarter against Buffalo. I also find it hard to believe that the offense will come out looking like they're stoned again. I foresee the Pats using lots of screens, draws, and short passes early on to slow down the pass rush, then they'll attack deep when they have the time to do so. Of course, it's entirely possible, maybe even likely, that the Jets anticipate this as well. So maybe the Pats come out firing long, figuring the Jets will defend the short passing game NE used last week. Blessed glory, football is back. Let the headgames begin (continue?).
It will be a long day at work on Sunday while I wait to watch this on DVR. Like it or lump it, Ryan and the Jets' trash talk has upped the ante on this one. As much as I think their antics have been laughable, it makes for entertaining television. CBS is loving it every time someone on the Jets opens up their mouth.
24-13 Pats
I think it will be a relatively uneventful game, despite all of the bluster leading into it. The Jets will never really threaten, but the score will be close enough that they're one big play away from winning it. They won't make that play and the Pats will pull away late.
I disagree with the logic of the poster who said that the Pats will lose this game, then win the second one. I don't think this Jets team is ready for primetime quite yet, but I think they will get better as the season progresses.
You have to think that the Pats will play better than they did on Monday. They have a full week to prepare without Mayo, whereas they had to change their whole defensive scheme in the 1st quarter against Buffalo. I also find it hard to believe that the offense will come out looking like they're stoned again. I foresee the Pats using lots of screens, draws, and short passes early on to slow down the pass rush, then they'll attack deep when they have the time to do so. Of course, it's entirely possible, maybe even likely, that the Jets anticipate this as well. So maybe the Pats come out firing long, figuring the Jets will defend the short passing game NE used last week. Blessed glory, football is back. Let the headgames begin (continue?).
It will be a long day at work on Sunday while I wait to watch this on DVR. Like it or lump it, Ryan and the Jets' trash talk has upped the ante on this one. As much as I think their antics have been laughable, it makes for entertaining television. CBS is loving it every time someone on the Jets opens up their mouth.
