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#1 Foulkey Reese


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Posted 12 September 2009 - 11:04 PM

Shields is still not a man.



#2 Backfrom3down

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Posted 13 September 2009 - 07:44 AM

Garza is a tool.

He spits incessantly and probably hasn't taken a shower since the turn of the century. He deserves a beat down. Today.

Win.

#3 Trlicek's Whip

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Posted 13 September 2009 - 08:07 AM

I wondered if Dewayne Staats bitched and moaned during last night's radio broadcast during his teal team's rain-shortened loss. You'd venture he'd take umbrage with the "glasses off, hair back down" back-and-forth of whether they'd get it in, the 2.5 hour delayed start, the muddle through, Wade Davis's crooked numbered 3rd inning, and then the consequent calling-off after it was official with Longoria soaked on 2nd base.



Fuck him. I hope he has more to bitch about today. Scratch that - I hope the Sox whip Tampa relentlessly without any weather delays or other excuses of any kind, so that Staats can't call the Wah-mbulance. Go back to the 1970's and audition for non-sex walk-on speaking roles in porn, you big homer.



#4 Foulkey Reese


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Posted 13 September 2009 - 08:16 AM

We could be 5 games up tonight if everything goes right.



#5 Brianish

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Posted 13 September 2009 - 09:06 AM

QUOTE (Foulkey Reese @ Sep 13 2009, 09:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
We could be 5 games up tonight if everything goes right.


4.5 innit? Does Texas have a doubleheader too?

#6 mikeford


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Posted 13 September 2009 - 09:09 AM

Garza/Buchholz early
Shields/Lester late


Plus real life meaningful NFL Football games today


gonna be a busy goddamn TV day

#7 wilked

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Posted 13 September 2009 - 09:09 AM

I got 4 tix, Bud Roof Deck, that will go wasted if someone's interested for the early game. I live in Southie...

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Posted 13 September 2009 - 09:21 AM

QUOTE (mikeford @ Sep 13 2009, 10:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Garza/Buchholz early
Shields/Lester late


Plus real life meaningful NFL Football games today


gonna be a busy goddamn TV day


Considering the thread starter, you made some pretty significant omissions here.

Right now: Fellowship of the Ring
12 pm: The Two Towers
3:45 pm: Return of the King
8 pm: 300
10:30 pm: 300 again

I need a minimum of four TVs to see everything I would want to see today.



#9 mikeford


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Posted 13 September 2009 - 09:28 AM

Sprowl didn't start this thread, did I miss something?

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Posted 13 September 2009 - 09:40 AM

AmalieBenjamin
Lineup: Ellsbury, Pedroia, Martinez ©, Youkilis (3B), Bay (DH), Kotchman (1B), Baldelli (RF), Reddick (LF), Green. Buchholz.


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Posted 13 September 2009 - 09:40 AM

Lineup: Ellsbury, Pedroia, Martinez , Youkilis (3B), Bay (DH), Kotchman (1B), Baldelli (RF), Reddick (LF), Green. Buchholz.


Yikes. I've got free tix to this one so I can't complain, but gotta say I expected this.


And...beaten.

Edited by CraisPikeCole, 13 September 2009 - 09:44 AM.


#12 Trlicek's Whip

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Posted 13 September 2009 - 09:44 AM



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Posted 13 September 2009 - 09:48 AM

QUOTE (Brianish @ Sep 13 2009, 07:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
4.5 innit? Does Texas have a doubleheader too?

They do. King Felix starts in one of them.

http://scores.espn.g...d?date=20090913


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Posted 13 September 2009 - 09:48 AM

Well, I hope none of our pitchers need a quick hook today cuz Tito might be nodding off in the dugout if thats the case.

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Posted 13 September 2009 - 09:52 AM

I had tickets for Friday and got to watch 23 exciting pitches for my only Fenway experience of the year. Fortunately fourteen hours of traveling back west really took the edge off. The only way this will be acceptable is with a double Ray pounding today.

Edited by Rook05, 13 September 2009 - 09:53 AM.


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Posted 13 September 2009 - 09:54 AM

This line-up makes a ton of sense.

After all, why not put four guys from the bench in the line-up at the same time? Why not do that against the better of Tampa's two pitchers today? Why not spread out the bench guys between the two games evenly? Texas, Shemexas.

Terry Francona is the best Red Sox manager I have ever seen but I will never understand his penchant for resting regulars in bunches, particularly in groups of four. This brings back memories of that game in Baltimore a few years ago that was rained out after 5 innings and after which Terry said that the varsity was going to come in during the later innings (that never happened).

I guess this means that we'll get Tek behind the plate, Ortiz at DH and Lowell at 3b in the second game, as he's not going to keep Lowell or Tiz out of the starting line-up for two games in a row.

Edited by TheoShmeo, 13 September 2009 - 09:56 AM.


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Posted 13 September 2009 - 09:58 AM

QUOTE (mikeford @ Sep 13 2009, 10:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
AmalieBenjamin
Lineup: Ellsbury, Pedroia, Martinez , Youkilis (3B), Bay (DH), Kotchman (1B), Baldelli (RF), Reddick (LF), Green. Buchholz.

Meh, we'll have Ortiz, Drew, and Lowell off the bench...I like Reddick and Green against Garza since he's mostly a fastball pitcher.

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Posted 13 September 2009 - 10:02 AM

I really don't get Reddick. OF defense is not at a premium with Buchholz, and Garza destroys lefties. Why not DH Lowell?

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Posted 13 September 2009 - 10:03 AM

QUOTE (SoxFan234 @ Sep 13 2009, 10:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Meh, we'll have Ortiz, Drew, and Lowell off the bench...I like Reddick and Green against Garza since he's mostly a fastball pitcher.

Reddick is 0 for 3 with 3 K's against Garza so... maybe not.

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Posted 13 September 2009 - 10:05 AM

QUOTE (mikeford @ Sep 13 2009, 11:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Reddick is 0 for 3 with 3 K's against Garza so... maybe not.

Small sample size.

#21 Foulkey Reese


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Posted 13 September 2009 - 10:25 AM

QUOTE (Jed Zeppelin @ Sep 13 2009, 10:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Considering the thread starter, you made some pretty significant omissions here.

Right now: Fellowship of the Ring
12 pm: The Two Towers
3:45 pm: Return of the King
8 pm: 300
10:30 pm: 300 again

I need a minimum of four TVs to see everything I would want to see today.


Yea I'm not leaving the house until work tomorrow morning.

#22 Trlicek's Whip

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Posted 13 September 2009 - 10:30 AM

QUOTE (Foulkey Reese @ Sep 13 2009, 11:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yea I'm not leaving the house until work tomorrow morning.
Thank god you're not a Yankees fan today as well.

Edit: though in YES's defense, today's Center Stage guest is Paul Simon (6PM).

Edited by Trlicek's Whip, 13 September 2009 - 10:31 AM.


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Posted 13 September 2009 - 10:48 AM

Well, if there was anyone on the Sox staff right now that I'd want up against Garza today, it would definitely be Lester. I can easily see both of these guys going seven plus and giving up one or no runs. I almost expect it from Lester, actually, even though that's unfair.
So it'll be a pitching duel I think. Which is in the Sox favor, because while Garza might dominate for seven plus, unless he throws a CG the Sox will still get to that bullpen, where even this second rate lineup will feast. It'd be nice if they could blow them out, and save the high leverage bullpen arms for the second game, but I'm not sure that'll happen. I think Paps will be in this game to close it. And pray for the blowout the second game.

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Posted 13 September 2009 - 10:56 AM

EI listings for Direct TV show only one game listed--and that one starts at 1:30 EST rather than 12:05 EST.

Does anyone know what's up with EI coverage today?

#25 amlothi

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Posted 13 September 2009 - 10:58 AM

QUOTE (SoxFan234 @ Sep 13 2009, 11:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Small sample size.



I think the point was that Francona didn't put him in the lineup because of any history of success against Garza.

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Posted 13 September 2009 - 11:00 AM

QUOTE (Kilgore A. Trout @ Sep 13 2009, 11:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, if there was anyone on the Sox staff right now that I'd want up against Garza today, it would definitely be Lester. I can easily see both of these guys going seven plus and giving up one or no runs. I almost expect it from Lester, actually, even though that's unfair.
So it'll be a pitching duel I think. Which is in the Sox favor, because while Garza might dominate for seven plus, unless he throws a CG the Sox will still get to that bullpen, where even this second rate lineup will feast. It'd be nice if they could blow them out, and save the high leverage bullpen arms for the second game, but I'm not sure that'll happen. I think Paps will be in this game to close it. And pray for the blowout the second game.

Lester is facing Shields at 5p.

So... nothing you said makes sense.

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Posted 13 September 2009 - 11:02 AM

QUOTE (Jed Zeppelin @ Sep 13 2009, 10:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Considering the thread starter, you made some pretty significant omissions here.

Right now: Fellowship of the Ring
12 pm: The Two Towers
3:45 pm: Return of the King
8 pm: 300
10:30 pm: 300 again

I need a minimum of four TVs to see everything I would want to see today.



As you can tell from my avatar, I'm a huge Tolkein fan. This does indeed look like a busy TV day...glad I split most of my firewood yesterday (the kids can stack it this week). Also, you've got Nadal and Federer both playing US Open semifinals, and Tiger just ripped off a 62 yesterday. Man, I love this time of year!!

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Posted 13 September 2009 - 11:02 AM

QUOTE (mikeford @ Sep 13 2009, 12:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Lester is facing Shields at 5p.

So... nothing you said makes sense.


To defend him a bit...espn.com does have Lester pitching the first game.

Now, anyone who reads SoSH with any regularity knew Buch was going first, but...

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Posted 13 September 2009 - 11:05 AM

QUOTE (mikeford @ Sep 13 2009, 12:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Lester is facing Shields at 5p.

So... nothing you said makes sense.


Just saw that. I thought Lester had the early game. My mistake.
Still, Buchholz can go seven plus as well. I don't think he'd be as dominant as Lester, but if he can keep it close its still all about how early the Sox get to the bullpen. Buchholz seven or so, two or three runs. They get the win off the Rays terrible bullpen.
And nothing I say ever makes any sense. So there's nothing new there.

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Posted 13 September 2009 - 11:07 AM

That should have been a K.

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Posted 13 September 2009 - 11:07 AM

QUOTE (TheShynessClinic @ Sep 13 2009, 12:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That should have been a K.


That was a K.

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Posted 13 September 2009 - 11:07 AM

Strike 4!

#33 TheShynessClinic


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Posted 13 September 2009 - 11:08 AM

After seeing Buchholz's first couple of pitches, I think he's got it today.

#34 Tim Naehrings Girl

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Posted 13 September 2009 - 11:08 AM

Where are you watching the game? NESN is blacked out for me on Directv.

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Posted 13 September 2009 - 11:09 AM

QUOTE (Tim Naehrings Girl @ Sep 13 2009, 12:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Where are you watching the game? NESN is blacked out for me on Directv.


I have it on NESN, on DirectTV....no idea why yours is blacked out. Channel 628, right?

Edited by TheShynessClinic, 13 September 2009 - 11:09 AM.


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Posted 13 September 2009 - 11:10 AM

Shit, mine is blacked out too

#37 Foulkey Reese


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Posted 13 September 2009 - 11:10 AM

Don't fuch with Buch.

#38 amlothi

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Posted 13 September 2009 - 11:11 AM

For what it's worth, Kotchman and Green do have decent numbers against Garza: http://www.baseball-...i/shareit/hsRdV

vs Garza
CODE
                    PA  AB  H  2B 3B HR RBI  BB  SO   BA   **OBP**   SLG   OPS   SH  SF IBB HBP GDP G_miss YR_miss
-----------------+---+---+---+--+--+--+---+---+---+-----+---------+-----+-----+---+---+---+---+---+------+-------
Casey Kotchman      3   2   1  0  0  0   0   1   0  .500    .667    .500 1.167   0   0   0   0   0                
Nick Green          6   5   2  0  0  0   1   0   0  .400    .500    .400  .900   0   0   0   1   0                
Kevin Youkilis     25  20   6  3  0  1   1   4   3  .300    .440    .600 1.040   0   0   0   1   0                
Brian N. Anderson   5   5   2  0  0  0   0   0   3  .400    .400    .400  .800   0   0   0   0   0                
Jacoby Ellsbury    32  29   9  0  0  0   1   2   4  .310    .375    .310  .685   0   0   0   1   0                
Victor Martinez    19  16   4  1  0  0   3   1   1  .250    .316    .313  .629   0   1   0   1   0                
David Ortiz        26  21   2  0  0  2   4   5   9  .095    .269    .381  .650   0   0   0   0   0                
Jason Bay          12  12   3  1  2  0   2   0   5  .250    .250    .667  .917   0   0   0   0   0                
Jason Varitek      17  15   2  1  0  0   2   2   4  .133    .235    .200  .435   0   0   0   0   0                
J.D. Drew          22  19   3  1  0  1   4   2   5  .158    .227    .368  .595   0   1   0   0   0                
Alex Gonzalez       5   4   1  1  0  0   1   0   0  .250    .200    .500  .700   0   1   0   0   0                
Dustin Pedroia     31  30   5  1  0  1   1   0   2  .167    .194    .300  .494   0   0   0   1   2                
Mike Lowell        20  20   3  0  0  1   2   0   3  .150    .150    .300  .450   0   0   0   0   0                
Joey Gathright     12  11   1  0  0  0   0   0   3  .091    .091    .091  .182   1   0   0   0   1                
George Kottaras     2   2   0  0  0  0   0   0   2  .000    .000    .000  .000   0   0   0   0   0                
Jed Lowrie          6   6   0  0  0  0   0   0   2  .000    .000    .000  .000   0   0   0   0   0                
Josh Reddick        3   3   0  0  0  0   0   0   3  .000    .000    .000  .000   0   0   0   0   0                
-----------------+---+---+---+--+--+--+---+---+---+-----+---------+-----+-----+---+---+---+---+---+------+-------



And I expect we are saving Drew and Lowell for the late game, based on the comparative numbers vs Garza and his numbers vs Shields. Might see Anderson at some point too.

vs Shields (http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/shareit/yPFhB)
CODE
                    PA  AB  H  2B 3B HR RBI  BB  SO   BA   **OBP**   SLG   OPS   SH  SF IBB HBP GDP G_miss YR_miss
+-----------------+---+---+---+--+--+--+---+---+---+-----+---------+-----+-----+---+---+---+---+---+------+-------+
Brian N. Anderson   3   2   1  0  0  0   0   1   0  .500    .667    .500 1.167   0   0   0   0   0                
Dustin Pedroia     21  19   9  1  0  1   2   1   1  .474    .524    .684 1.208   0   0   0   1   0                
David Ortiz        24  21   8  4  0  2   6   3   3  .381    .458    .857 1.315   0   0   1   0   0                
Jason Bay           9   8   3  0  0  1   4   1   2  .375    .444    .750 1.194   0   0   0   0   0                
J.D. Drew          24  23   9  4  0  2   6   1   3  .391    .417    .826 1.243   0   0   0   0   1                
Mike Lowell        22  22   8  2  0  0   2   0   2  .364    .364    .455  .819   0   0   0   0   1                
Victor Martinez     9   9   3  1  0  0   3   0   2  .333    .333    .444  .777   0   0   0   0   0                
Casey Kotchman     10   9   2  0  0  0   0   1   1  .222    .300    .222  .522   0   0   0   0   0                
Kevin Youkilis     26  23   3  1  0  0   0   2   7  .130    .231    .174  .405   0   0   0   1   0                
Jacoby Ellsbury    22  21   4  0  0  0   0   1   4  .190    .227    .190  .417   0   0   0   0   0                
Jason Varitek      19  18   3  0  0  1   2   1   7  .167    .211    .333  .544   0   0   0   0   0                
Joey Gathright      6   6   1  1  0  0   1   0   1  .167    .167    .333  .500   0   0   0   0   0                
Jed Lowrie          6   6   1  0  0  0   0   0   2  .167    .167    .167  .334   0   0   0   0   0                
Alex Gonzalez       4   4   0  0  0  0   0   0   0  .000    .000    .000  .000   0   0   0   0   0                
Nick Green          3   3   0  0  0  0   0   0   1  .000    .000    .000  .000   0   0   0   0   0                
+-----------------+---+---+---+--+--+--+---+---+---+-----+---------+-----+-----+---+---+---+---+---+------+-------+


Reason for Edit: Clarify what the tables are.

Edited by amlothi, 13 September 2009 - 11:13 AM.


#39 Tim Naehrings Girl

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Posted 13 September 2009 - 11:11 AM

I wonder if it is because I am out of state, would that make any difference?

#40 TheShynessClinic


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Posted 13 September 2009 - 11:12 AM

For those unavailable to watch at home

Buch's first

K on 4 pitches (should have been on 3)
1st pitch GO
FO to right.

7 pitches.

#41 75 Red Hats

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Posted 13 September 2009 - 11:13 AM

That is because EI is stupid and does not know there is a game. NESN blacked out because they think NESN is showing The Ultimate Red Sox Show, which is always blacked out. You can get it on the Rays channel, 653

Edited by 75 Red Hats, 13 September 2009 - 11:14 AM.


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Posted 13 September 2009 - 11:13 AM

Good start. Cruise into 2nd with a leadoff double. Suck it Garza.

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Posted 13 September 2009 - 11:14 AM

Don't bunt in the first inning dumbass.

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Posted 13 September 2009 - 11:14 AM

QUOTE (75 Red Hats @ Sep 13 2009, 11:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That is because EI is stupid and does not know there is a game. NESN blacked out because they think NESN is showing The Ultimate Red Sox Show, which is always blacked out. You can get it on the Rays channe, 653

Thanks for that. It will be even more enjoyable listening to these asshats crying.

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Posted 13 September 2009 - 11:14 AM

Pedroia, you fucking suck at bunting, stop trying to fucking bunt.

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Posted 13 September 2009 - 11:14 AM

QUOTE (75 Red Hats @ Sep 13 2009, 12:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That is because EI is stupid and does not know there is a game. NESN blacked out because they think NESN is showing The Ultimate Red Sox Show, which is always blacked out. You can get it on the Rays channel, 653


Thank you!!!!

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Posted 13 September 2009 - 11:15 AM

Ellsbury has been amazingly consistent it seems over the last month or two. It feels like his AVG. has been right at .300 forever. Its doubt its been lower than .295 or higher than .305 in a while

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Posted 13 September 2009 - 11:15 AM

I have nothing to back this up with, but it feels like Pedroia sucks at getting Jacoby to 3rd in these situations.



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Posted 13 September 2009 - 11:15 AM

And if anyone has a stream for the game, please share. Thanks!

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Posted 13 September 2009 - 11:16 AM

QUOTE (Foulkey Reese @ Sep 13 2009, 11:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have nothing to back this up with, but it feels like Pedroia sucks at getting Jacoby to 3rd in these situations.

You have your eyes. That's enough.