589 replies to this topic

[Al Zarilla]

Holy shit, I saw that hobo when I went to Baltimore at the beginning of the summer.

Really? He looks just like one in my area (Silicon Valley, west). Maybe they all look alike?

[Kilgore A. Trout]

The difficulty in figuring out which model typewriter is being used comes from the view of that shot being from the side, where most of the clearest differences of the two models is not as visible, leaving what can be seen up to interpretation.
However, I think I have found an image that clears up the typewriter debate issue.
Here is a behind the scenes pic from the show.



There are two typewriters here that you very clearly see the front of.
At the desk of the actress wearing the green dress, closest to the photographer, the curvature on the front of the machine clearly IDs it as a Selectric I

Selectric I


So on that desk, in front of that actress, it clear from this view which typewriter it is.

However, if you look at the machine on the desk in front of the woman in the dark blue dress with her back to the photographer, the shape on the casing in the front very clearly is that of a Selectric II
Selectric II


What to conclude from this? Both kind of typewriter models are used on the set.
Mad Men is a period piece. Finding a whole office worth of period appropriate typewriters or any other obscure prop is very, very difficult. When was the last time any of you even saw a typewriter as much as fifteen years old, let alone over forty?
Often times even the biggest budgeted period piece movie will fudge a bit with their props; a keen eye can spot at least a ten of these kinds of things in any given period piece. Telephones, cars, and TVs are the common props this is done with. And guns- especially in westerns.
If they really wanted to, they could get it absolutely right, and absolutely perfect. But it would take a lot of time, which means a lot a of money, and ultimately its not totally worth it, becuase quite simply, if the majoirty of the audience actually noticed this enough distract them from the actual story going on, then the show would have much, much bigger problems.

[damons beard]

I remember on 9/11/01, the redsox were going to play these rays down here, I had tickets to 2 out of 3 games and by the time they made them up down here,I was on vacation in NH. Also it appears that tito has really given up on tek as little as he plays him.

[Ananias]

Only a matter of time before somone posts some hard-core vintage typewriter porn. White-out and spilled ink everywhere.

[Trlicek's Whip]

Tito's lineup, and all the Selectric speak, have this in common: they are both low-tech.

And there's only one Big Game James in my world:

Edited by Trlicek's Whip, 11 September 2009 - 03:43 PM.

[Trlicek's Whip]

Holy shit, I saw that hobo when I went to Baltimore at the beginning of the summer.

Didn't McNulty kidnap him and hole him up in a rehab clinic in Virginia somewhere?

[Shelterdog]

So um, back to the who the fuck is Peggy thing.

She's president bartlett's kid who got kidnapped and then they had to make john goodman president and she also had sex with charlie and that's why the skinhead shot the president and and josh liman.

Jesus wept, try to keep up.

[Foulkey Reese]

The Wire, Mad Men, and The West Wing and we're only one page 3.

[mjdlight]

Only a matter of time before somone posts some hard-core vintage typewriter porn. White-out and spilled ink everywhere.

I'll post this benign pic of Tina Fey so as not to run afoul of board etiquette, but there is hardcore typewriter pr0n available on google images.



And I'm glad we can all at least agree Chone Figgins needs to die. I live in fear that the Red Sox will get him someday -- its my ultimate nightmare.

[mikeford]

Didn't McNulty kidnap him and hole him up in a rehab clinic in Virginia somewhere?

[cheesypoofs]

Really? He looks just like one in my area (Silicon Valley, west). Maybe they all look alike?

Franchise hobos? It's only a matter of time before the big hobo chains run the little hobos out of business.

[Kilgore A. Trout]

I don't care what anyone else says: Tina Fey is the hottest women in here so far today. Her amazing talent at comedy just puts her over the top for me.

[Dionysus]

I don't care what anyone else says: Tina Fey is the hottest women in here so far today. Her amazing talent at comedy just puts her over the top for me.

No arguement here. I'd put Christina Hendricks second though. Not even just for Mad Men, but whenever I think of her, I think of her speech to seduce Mal in Firefly. She's.. very... umm... convincing.

[Rasputin]

She's president bartlett's kid who got kidnapped and then they had to make john goodman president and she also had sex with charlie and that's why the skinhead shot the president and and josh liman.

Jesus wept, try to keep up.

She was hot.

But she did that annoying French dude.

[DennyDoyle'sBoil]

hey lurkers join us in chat

I don't watch Mad Men, I have very little to say about typewriters, and homojoe means nothing to me.

But my fundamental belief, albeit SSS, is that girls with big boobs in sweaters elevate any situation or thread.

[strek1]

I don't know how the world functioned before computers.

My fond recollection is that it functioned more smoothly, slower and less expensively.

[teddywingman]

This game thread is fucking AWESOME.
btw, Tina Fey:

[ghost of Juan Pena]

The Sox will win tonight, this is assumed. I would like to ruin Tampa Bay's future of the franchise as well.

I just moved down to Louisville, KY for grad school and it is boring, so I'm going to the Louisville Bats vs. Durham Bulls playoff game this evening, where top TB prospect Desmond Jennings will be showing his stuff for scouts. What can I do to make this guy go insane a la Delmon Young and throw a bat at an umpire or Elijah Dukes and threaten to kill bitches? Somebody come up with a great heckling ploy in the next 20 minutes so I can make this guy join Young and Elijah in the annals of TB OF prospect infamy, ruin a future star for the franchise and put them back in the basement where they belong.

[EastCoasterOutWest]

I don't know what you guys are talking about. I have yet to see a typewriter in any of those images.

[BucketOBalls]

I don't know what you guys are talking about. I have yet to see a typewriter in any of those images.

You have to keep staring at them, and eventually....the typewriters will appear. It's like a magic eye poster.

[EastCoasterOutWest]

You have to keep staring at them, and eventually....the typewriters will appear. It's like a magic eye poster.

If I keep staring at them, I'm afraid something will appear. I'm at work. That might be bad.

[NomarRS05]

This game thread is fucking AWESOME.

Meh, it's alright. Not enough pictures of light switches.

[mr guido]

in town for 1 night... First trip back to Fenway in over a year. This rain better not give me any trouble or heads will roll!

[pokey_reese]

Good thing my tickets are for tomorrow, when it is... also supposed to ...rain. Damn

[Snodgrass'Muff]

No arguement here. I'd put Christina Hendricks second though. Not even just for Mad Men, but whenever I think of her, I think of her speech to seduce Mal in Firefly. She's.. very... umm... convincing.

That was the peak of her hottness. And my god... it was an amazing peek.

[Burn Out]

The difficulty in figuring out which model typewriter is being used comes from the view of that shot being from the side, where most of the clearest differences of the two models is not as visible, leaving what can be seen up to interpretation.
However, I think I have found an image that clears up the typewriter debate issue.
Here is a behind the scenes pic from the show.



There are two typewriters here that you very clearly see the front of.
At the desk of the actress wearing the green dress, closest to the photographer, the curvature on the front of the machine clearly IDs it as a Selectric I

Selectric I


So on that desk, in front of that actress, it clear from this view which typewriter it is.

However, if you look at the machine on the desk in front of the woman in the dark blue dress with her back to the photographer, the shape on the casing in the front very clearly is that of a Selectric II
Selectric II


What to conclude from this? Both kind of typewriter models are used on the set.
Mad Men is a period piece. Finding a whole office worth of period appropriate typewriters or any other obscure prop is very, very difficult. When was the last time any of you even saw a typewriter as much as fifteen years old, let alone over forty?
Often times even the biggest budgeted period piece movie will fudge a bit with their props; a keen eye can spot at least a ten of these kinds of things in any given period piece. Telephones, cars, and TVs are the common props this is done with. And guns- especially in westerns.
If they really wanted to, they could get it absolutely right, and absolutely perfect. But it would take a lot of time, which means a lot a of money, and ultimately its not totally worth it, becuase quite simply, if the majoirty of the audience actually noticed this enough distract them from the actual story going on, then the show would have much, much bigger problems.

Thank you for the primer on the ins and outs of Hollywood productions.

I live in Los Angeles. If you had bothered to look at the location, you would see it says, 'Probably in Traffic'. You should have then surmised that I live in LA and that hence, I'm in the business. Do your research.

I know how difficult it can be to find 3 matching Victorian snuff boxes. On a Sunday. Before a Holiday. In a snowstorm. I do think you owe everyone in this industry an apology if you're suggesting that we sometimes 'fudge a bit', or deliver anything less than total authenticity. I have never been part of a production that substitutes iced tea for whiskey. Never. Not on my watch, mister.

I'm not arguing about the typewriter behind the girl in the blue that heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Ferris pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I'm arguing about the typewriter in the OP.

Solid Platen knob. Selectric II.

Book it.

[Al Zarilla]

That was the peak of her hottness. And my god... it was an amazing peek.

Hottness with two t's is hotter than with one t, right? I saw a misspell once of the word triple, guy wrote tripple. I said while you're at it, you should make it trippple. A couple of those each for Ellsbury, Pedroia and JD tonight, please.

[Backfrom3down]

I wonder why I hate the Rays. Is it Garza the spitting machine or the mock turtleneck manager? Perhaps it is the Crawford neck tattoo?

Then it came to me..

They are pretenders. A flash in the pan. Yesterday's news. And they can't fill their stadium even half way after they went to the World Series.

Knock em' to the canvas with a typewriter.

[Orange Julia]

Frat reports that the tarp is off the field. Repeat: Tarp Is Off.

[chrisfont9]

So um, back to the who the fuck is Peggy thing.

Zoe Bartlett!

[buzzard21]

The Sox will win tonight, this is assumed. I would like to ruin Tampa Bay's future of the franchise as well.

I just moved down to Louisville, KY for grad school and it is boring, so I'm going to the Louisville Bats vs. Durham Bulls playoff game this evening, where top TB prospect Desmond Jennings will be showing his stuff for scouts. What can I do to make this guy go insane a la Delmon Young and throw a bat at an umpire or Elijah Dukes and threaten to kill bitches? Somebody come up with a great heckling ploy in the next 20 minutes so I can make this guy join Young and Elijah in the annals of TB OF prospect infamy, ruin a future star for the franchise and put them back in the basement where they belong.

wow while your at it just give him a bag of smack so he can go the Hamilton route...

[Snodgrass'Muff]

Hottness with two t's is hotter than with one t, right? I saw a misspell once of the word triple, guy wrote tripple. I said while you're at it, you should make it trippple. A couple of those each for Ellsbury, Pedroia and JD tonight, please.

And here I thought I was being clever with an intentional misspelling of peak the second time around.

Fail and lose... that's what I'm made of.

[chrisfont9]

That's it, I'm out. We're in catchup mode on both Madmen and the Wire. Hopefully this forum will be safe once the game starts. Nice get on the Tina Fey picture though...

[luckysox]

This is my favorite game thread all year.

I'd like a 15-2 smackdown favorite regular season game all year to with it.

And it's Josh Lyman, with "Y". Crimony, don't invoke West Wing and misspell a name.
Add this to your homojo, suckers:

[ypioca]

So, um, just noticed Sprowl is a mod now. Congrats! Good luck controlling this pack of hyperactive lurkers.

[Kilgore A. Trout]

Thank you for the primer on the ins and outs of Hollywood productions.

I live in Los Angeles. If you had bothered to look at the location, you would see it says, 'Probably in Traffic'. You should have then surmised that I live in LA and that hence, I'm in the business. Do your research.

I know how difficult it can be to find 3 matching Victorian snuff boxes. On a Sunday. Before a Holiday. In a snowstorm. I do think you owe everyone in this industry an apology if you're suggesting that we sometimes 'fudge a bit', or deliver anything less than total authenticity. I have never been part of a production that substitutes iced tea for whiskey. Never. Not on my watch, mister.

I'm not arguing about the typewriter behind the girl in the blue that heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Ferris pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I'm arguing about the typewriter in the OP.

Solid Platen knob. Selectric II.

Book it.

I'm not sure if you're pulling my leg here. Again, I call for someone to establish a font for sarcasm/satire.

But just in case you're not, few quick points before I go watch the game in the other room:

1) Continuity errors and 'fudging' abound in film. Go to this site: Movie Mistakes it is just one of a thousand plus websites that detail continuity errors on film and television. Do a google search on continuity errors in film and you'll get a lot more of them.

2) The Selectric II, as someone pointed out orginally, was not introduced until 1973. So if you maintain that is in fact what is on the desk in that picture, then, well, you are conceding that they have 'fudged a bit'.

3) From that website, regarding the typewriter in question, from the very scene in question:

When the new secretary is being shown around the office, the cover is slipped off an IBM Selectric typewriter. She is told not to be afraid of the new technology, it was made easy enough for a woman to use. The episode takes place in March 1960 (a calendar is shown) and the IBM Selectric wasn't introduced until 1961.

So not only would a Selectric II be a 'fudge' but even the Selectric I would be one.

4) When exactly was the last Snowstorm in Los Angeles?

[SoxScout]

heidi is dressed down tonight and she looks riiiidiculousssss.

[Doc Zero]

Okay guys the little brat said "play ball" let's stop with all of the 9/11 shit.

[MetSox1]

Okay guys the little brat said "play ball" let's stop with all of the 9/11 shit.

Really Doc? Really?

[ypioca]

To any people out of the US: Do you know if MLB.tv works live in the postseason?

[luckysox]

Really Doc? Really?

Yep. Even today, gamethreads have no decorem around sensitive issues. It is what it is here.
Dead babies.
Retards on fire.
9-11.

[Jed Zeppelin]

To any people out of the US: Do you know if MLB.tv works live in the postseason?

It worked for me two years ago when I was out of the country.

[SemperFidelisSox]

The Rays vs the Bloods.

[Kilgore A. Trout]

So if this game gets out of hand I can pull out the dead baby jokes I got and nobody will get pissed?

[Orange Julia]

heidi is dressed down tonight and she looks riiiidiculousssss.

Yes, she looks like she's in her pajamas.

[luckysox]

So if this game gets out of hand I can pull out the dead baby jokes I got and nobody will get pissed?

Don't forget the flaming retard jokes. Those are ok too.

[ypioca]

It worked for me two years ago when I was out of the country.

Thanks. Their page sucks at information.

[JohnnyTheBone]

Lance "Avon" Barksdale commandeering 2nd base tonight.

Edited by JohnnyTheBone, 11 September 2009 - 06:17 PM.

[Max Power]

So if this game gets out of hand I can pull out the dead baby jokes I got and nobody will get pissed?

Jokes?

[aksoxfan]

I hope the game goes a lot better than the game thread. Worst I've seen in years.