I really wish people would stop talking about Lester as one of the top lefties in the game and just start calling him one of the top pitchers in the game. Because he's not just a great lefty. He's a dominant pitcher.
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9/6 - Jon Lester, Ace
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TheoShmeo
, Sep 05 2009 11:11 PM
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Posted 06 September 2009 - 01:45 PM
QUOTE (Snodgrass'Muff @ Sep 6 2009, 02:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I really wish people would stop talking about Lester as one of the top lefties in the game and just start calling him one of the top pitchers in the game. Because he's not just a great lefty. He's a dominant pitcher.
Eh. That's gonna be true of any left handed pitcher till they reach that undoubtedly elite level. Lester's close to that, but not quite there just yet. Give it another year.
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Posted 06 September 2009 - 01:46 PM
QUOTE (Snodgrass'Muff @ Sep 6 2009, 02:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I really wish people would stop talking about Lester as one of the top lefties in the game and just start calling him one of the top pitchers in the game. Because he's not just a great lefty. He's a dominant pitcher.
this. he was plagued to start the year, or he would be in the CY talk.
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Posted 06 September 2009 - 01:47 PM
QUOTE (SemperFidelisSox @ Sep 6 2009, 02:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The Red Sox are lucky as hell that the Rangers went to Baltimore and layed an even bigger egg than they did this weekend.
Not too worried about getting into the playoffs, I just have next to no confidence that they will do anything once getting there. And if Beckett doesn't turn it around, they're cooked.
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Posted 06 September 2009 - 01:48 PM
Thjat AB didn't measure up to your first, Wheels
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Posted 06 September 2009 - 01:48 PM
QUOTE (Kilgore A. Trout @ Sep 6 2009, 02:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Eh. That's gonna be true of any left handed pitcher till they reach that undoubtedly elite level. Lester's close to that, but not quite there just yet. Give it another year.
Hes third in xFIP.
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Posted 06 September 2009 - 01:49 PM
Pedroia now 2 for 20 in September with 3 walks and no XBH...
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Posted 06 September 2009 - 01:50 PM
Jesus, Victor is not fast.
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Posted 06 September 2009 - 01:50 PM
If Pedroia is going to be a consistent out, can he at least see more than 2 pitches per AB?
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Posted 06 September 2009 - 01:50 PM
Victor is pretty slow, but the throw was late.
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Posted 06 September 2009 - 01:51 PM
O's leading Texas 5-0 in the 4th. But I'm not all that confident given Baltimore's bullpen.
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Posted 06 September 2009 - 01:53 PM
And the O's have the bases loaded with their DH up and one out
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Posted 06 September 2009 - 01:54 PM
QUOTE (SemperFidelisSox @ Sep 6 2009, 02:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The Red Sox are lucky as hell that the Rangers went to Baltimore and layed an even bigger egg than they did this weekend.
Now 3-0 O's. 1st and 3rd, nobody out.
Now 3-0 O's. 1st and 3rd, nobody out.
Now 5-0, bases loaded and 1 out.
But may I remind you, sir, that these are the Orioles we're contemplating. 5-0 is a tie ballgame with that staff.
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Posted 06 September 2009 - 01:54 PM
QUOTE (phragle @ Sep 6 2009, 02:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hes third in xFIP.
Also second in k/9, third in total strikeouts and 6th in the AL in PRC.
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Posted 06 September 2009 - 01:55 PM
The Sox offense is starting to remind of that Tampa, Yankee road game stretch.
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Posted 06 September 2009 - 01:55 PM
Why does this happen to Lester like 3 times a game. He seems to go through a couple stretches every game where he loses his control a bit.
edit: nevermind
edit: nevermind
Edited by BoSoxFink, 06 September 2009 - 01:56 PM.
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Posted 06 September 2009 - 01:56 PM
Ramon Castro has the biggest head I have ever seen
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Posted 06 September 2009 - 01:58 PM
QUOTE (Stu Nahan @ Sep 6 2009, 11:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Rios is 4 for his last 44. Yikes.
J.P. must have wet himself when they claimed Rios...
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Posted 06 September 2009 - 01:58 PM
I believe Eck just referred to the NL as the "Double-A league."
Awesome.
Awesome.
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Posted 06 September 2009 - 01:58 PM
QUOTE (BoSoxFink @ Sep 6 2009, 02:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ramon Castro has the biggest head I have ever seen
I call for a drug test!
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Posted 06 September 2009 - 01:58 PM
QUOTE (BoSoxFink @ Sep 6 2009, 02:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ramon Castro has the biggest head I have ever seen
Bigger than Polanco's?
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Posted 06 September 2009 - 01:59 PM
QUOTE (BoSoxFink @ Sep 6 2009, 02:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ramon Castro has the biggest head I have ever seen
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Posted 06 September 2009 - 01:59 PM
Seriously, trading for Rios is one of the stupidest things ever... You have the money to get Rios but you HAVE to dump Swisher... Fuck you, Kenny.
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Posted 06 September 2009 - 01:59 PM
QUOTE (Snodgrass'Muff @ Sep 6 2009, 02:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
True, but I doubt Castro is on steroids, and if he is then he should stop taking them because they aren't doing anything for him
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Posted 06 September 2009 - 02:00 PM
QUOTE (DieHardSoxFan1 @ Sep 6 2009, 01:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
His power is virtually nonexistent, and opposing pitchers know this. Throw him anything on the outer-half and you've effectively limited what he can do.
Can't he make an adjustment and leave those pitches alone and then wait for a mistake? At the very least he would up the pitch count, give Jacoby an opportunity to impact the pitcher and a chance to run if he is on base as well as give himself a better shot of getting that mistake to drive into the gap.
It seems to me that would be the best approach. Paging Magadan.
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Posted 06 September 2009 - 02:00 PM
QUOTE (BoSoxFink @ Sep 6 2009, 02:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ramon Castro has the biggest head I have ever seen
Isn't it amazing that the Mets as a franchise have zero no hitters, and in his first start as a member of the White Sox Castro caught Buehrle's perfect game.
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Posted 06 September 2009 - 02:00 PM
QUOTE (BoSoxFink @ Sep 6 2009, 02:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
True, but I doubt Castro is on steroids, and if he is then he should stop taking them because they aren't doing anything for him
Not true. Without them he'd probably be selling used cars.
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Posted 06 September 2009 - 02:01 PM
QUOTE (Stu Nahan @ Sep 6 2009, 01:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Rios is 4 for his last 44. Yikes.
Makes you feel a bit better about our up the middle woes.
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Posted 06 September 2009 - 02:02 PM
QUOTE (ngruz25 @ Sep 6 2009, 02:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I believe Eck just referred to the NL as the "Double-A league."
Awesome.
Awesome.
He was repeating a quote from Ozzie.
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Posted 06 September 2009 - 02:03 PM
QUOTE (BoSoxFink @ Sep 6 2009, 02:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ramon Castro has the biggest head I have ever seen
shit, wait... I think I did it backwards
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Posted 06 September 2009 - 02:03 PM
Bonds was at a Giants game a few weeks ago and when they showed him in the stands I barely recognized him. His head shrunk about 10 hat sizes.
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Posted 06 September 2009 - 02:03 PM
QUOTE (mauidano @ Sep 6 2009, 12:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Makes you feel a bit better about our up the middle woes.
We talk'in Heidi again!
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Posted 06 September 2009 - 02:03 PM
QUOTE (ngruz25 @ Sep 6 2009, 02:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Did someone mention a big head?
When Mench dies his head will be donated to Tishman Construction where it will be used as a wrecking ball.
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Posted 06 September 2009 - 02:03 PM
QUOTE (BoSoxFink @ Sep 6 2009, 02:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ramon Castro has the biggest head I have ever seen
Hence Pedro's nickname for him in NY: Buckethead
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Posted 06 September 2009 - 02:04 PM
QUOTE (God's Cop @ Sep 6 2009, 01:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Bigger than Polanco's?
Polanco has the most bizarre melon I have ever seen on a human being. Reminiscent of the Elephant Man. It's like a large tumor is growing out the side of his head. It's a wonder he can put a helmet on that thing. Freakish.
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Posted 06 September 2009 - 02:05 PM
QUOTE (mikeford @ Sep 6 2009, 02:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
shit, wait... I think I did it backwards
There you go...that solves Polanco's problem too!
Edited by mauidano, 06 September 2009 - 02:06 PM.
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Posted 06 September 2009 - 02:06 PM
Come on Sox! Lester is the most reliable starter you've got - Bear down and score some runs for the guy!
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Posted 06 September 2009 - 02:07 PM
QUOTE (Snodgrass'Muff @ Sep 6 2009, 02:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Also second in k/9, third in total strikeouts and 6th in the AL in PRC.
Doesn't PRC reflect the shotty fielding behind Lester early in the year?
Also where do you find the list (website)
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Posted 06 September 2009 - 02:07 PM
If the Sox had scored some more runs in his other starts and he didn't start so slow in April and May, then Lester would be in the cy young discussion. Too bad he didn't have 3 to 4 more wins like he probably should. If he was up to 14 or 15 wins right now he would be right in the discussion.
