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This is the place to leave nominations for the left fielder on our Greatest Team Of All-Time.
As always, please put your choice in bold. You don't this, the nomination does not count. Please only bold that choice once and only bold one person in your post.
We will have TWO bench players that will cover all the outfielders. The players selected for that will be among all OFers getting votes in the polls.
Just because someone may have been selected, make sure you still make your pick. The "ballot" is from highest vote getter to last and if we have a tie or the list exceeds 20, some will not make the cut based on total number of nominations.
So let's have it... who is the best left fielder of all-time?
Editor's Note: I am guessing this one is going to be a pretty good one.
GOAT TEAM: Left Fielder
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Posted 01 June 2009 - 12:00 AM
Ted Williams
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Posted 01 June 2009 - 12:03 AM
Ted Williams. If I didn't discount for steroids, this would be a harder choice..
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Posted 01 June 2009 - 12:14 AM
I'm assuming Babe Ruth counts as a right-fielder and only a right-fielder?
I'll nominate Barry Bonds. Shitty human being. Even with a normal age-related decline he probably would have been a top-5 LF of all time. With 2001-2004 he's easily in the conversation for GOAT.
And I'll say it: Whether or not you think he cheated during those years - and I think it's been proven in the court of public opinion - those stats were real. He really hit all those balls. If you had him on your team, he'd be putting up those numbers over the years you had him, in the GOAT team parallel universe. Can't rewrite history.
I'll nominate Barry Bonds. Shitty human being. Even with a normal age-related decline he probably would have been a top-5 LF of all time. With 2001-2004 he's easily in the conversation for GOAT.
And I'll say it: Whether or not you think he cheated during those years - and I think it's been proven in the court of public opinion - those stats were real. He really hit all those balls. If you had him on your team, he'd be putting up those numbers over the years you had him, in the GOAT team parallel universe. Can't rewrite history.
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Posted 01 June 2009 - 12:17 AM
Barry Bonds
Needed to be nominated, as, well, the numbers are there. Anyway, I think it's a fun debate.
Needed to be nominated, as, well, the numbers are there. Anyway, I think it's a fun debate.
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Posted 01 June 2009 - 12:22 AM
QUOTE (MentalDisabldLst @ Jun 1 2009, 01:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm assuming Babe Ruth counts as a right-fielder and only a right-fielder?
I'll nominate Barry Bonds. Shitty human being. Even with a normal age-related decline he probably would have been a top-5 LF of all time. With 2001-2004 he's easily in the conversation for GOAT.
And I'll say it: Whether or not you think he cheated during those years - and I think it's been proven in the court of public opinion - those stats were real. He really hit all those balls. If you had him on your team, he'd be putting up those numbers over the years you had him, in the GOAT team parallel universe. Can't rewrite history.
I'll nominate Barry Bonds. Shitty human being. Even with a normal age-related decline he probably would have been a top-5 LF of all time. With 2001-2004 he's easily in the conversation for GOAT.
And I'll say it: Whether or not you think he cheated during those years - and I think it's been proven in the court of public opinion - those stats were real. He really hit all those balls. If you had him on your team, he'd be putting up those numbers over the years you had him, in the GOAT team parallel universe. Can't rewrite history.
Yes he did hit all those balls.
But he did it cheating.
No one questions whether or not the balls he hit really happened. That's not the argument.
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Posted 01 June 2009 - 12:34 AM
Ted Williams
Missed almost five years of his career actually fighting in wars. Thats more than 150 HRs probably robbed from him.
Missed almost five years of his career actually fighting in wars. Thats more than 150 HRs probably robbed from him.
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There may actually be an argument that when you add defense and baserunning, Ted Williams was not the greatest left fielder of all time. I have no idea whether this is true, but it is worth looking into.
Rickey Henderson.
(Hmm ... Teddy Ballgame was about 60 runs better at his peak than Ricky (comparing 5th best seasons, 93 to 36). It wouldn't surprise me if Ricky were 30 runs better on defense and the basepaths. If you want to win the pennant, Teddy is going to be hard to top. But in the postseason I might actually take Ricky. Tough choice.)
Rickey Henderson.
(Hmm ... Teddy Ballgame was about 60 runs better at his peak than Ricky (comparing 5th best seasons, 93 to 36). It wouldn't surprise me if Ricky were 30 runs better on defense and the basepaths. If you want to win the pennant, Teddy is going to be hard to top. But in the postseason I might actually take Ricky. Tough choice.)
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Ted Williams. The best hitter ever should be elected the best at his position. His fielding was at least adequate.
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Stan Musial.
I'm voting for Ted at DH.
I'm voting for Ted at DH.
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Yeah he won't win, but Carl Yastrzemski belongs in the poll. I'll probably vote for Ted.
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For the intrest of full disclosure.
We will be doing the 3 OF spots, THEN the DH spot and then go and do the 2 bench OF spots.
We will be doing the 3 OF spots, THEN the DH spot and then go and do the 2 bench OF spots.
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Sorry, but if this site is going to elect Tom Brady over Joe Montana, there is no way we can elect Stan Musial over
Ted Williams
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Posted 01 June 2009 - 07:38 AM
It doesn' seem right to put Ted Williams at DH as 1) the position didn't exist when he played and 2) he was the greatest left-fielder ever. The man sacrified enough. He earned left field.
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Ted Williams
Just went from six to midnight.
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I am going to need to contemplate who to vote for but I do want to point out probably the greatest fantasy baseball season of all time
87 SB, 28HR, 130R, 74RBI, .263BA in the days where 30HR would easily put you Top Ten in the league. Ricky Henderson 1986
87 SB, 28HR, 130R, 74RBI, .263BA in the days where 30HR would easily put you Top Ten in the league. Ricky Henderson 1986
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Posted 01 June 2009 - 08:14 AM
Barry Bonds
He and Ted were similar hitters, but Barry was a better fielder/base runner. More tools than Ted. If this team has a DH, I would pick Ted for that position for being the best HITTER of all time, regardless of never being a DH. I think a GOAT team should have a DH that's actually the best hitter, not the best old washed up or bad fielder to play the position.
He and Ted were similar hitters, but Barry was a better fielder/base runner. More tools than Ted. If this team has a DH, I would pick Ted for that position for being the best HITTER of all time, regardless of never being a DH. I think a GOAT team should have a DH that's actually the best hitter, not the best old washed up or bad fielder to play the position.
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QUOTE (Eric Van @ Jun 1 2009, 03:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
There may actually be an argument that when you add defense and baserunning, Ted Williams was not the greatest left fielder of all time. I have no idea whether this is true, but it is worth looking into.
Rickey Henderson.
(Hmm ... Teddy Ballgame was about 60 runs better at his peak than Ricky (comparing 5th best seasons, 93 to 36). It wouldn't surprise me if Ricky were 30 runs better on defense and the basepaths. If you want to win the pennant, Teddy is going to be hard to top. But in the postseason I might actually take Ricky. Tough choice.)
Rickey Henderson.
(Hmm ... Teddy Ballgame was about 60 runs better at his peak than Ricky (comparing 5th best seasons, 93 to 36). It wouldn't surprise me if Ricky were 30 runs better on defense and the basepaths. If you want to win the pennant, Teddy is going to be hard to top. But in the postseason I might actually take Ricky. Tough choice.)
Damn, that a spanner in the works I've forgotten. Rickey will definitely be one of my two picks for back up OF, if I can get Ted in at DH.
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"Well, my idea in 2006 was to trade Big Papi (while his value was high, now its low and sucks) for Ervin Santana. People laughed at that. Who'd be laughing now??" -- Theo Epstein, posting as lurker PedroiaSalsa
"After the next title, I expect the Sox to exhume the Babe's body, staple a Sox cap to his skull, and have his decayed skeleton throw out the first pitch." -- Pandemonium67
Something really funny about Buchholz and Laptops --TomRicardo
"Well, my idea in 2006 was to trade Big Papi (while his value was high, now its low and sucks) for Ervin Santana. People laughed at that. Who'd be laughing now??" -- Theo Epstein, posting as lurker PedroiaSalsa
"After the next title, I expect the Sox to exhume the Babe's body, staple a Sox cap to his skull, and have his decayed skeleton throw out the first pitch." -- Pandemonium67
Something really funny about Buchholz and Laptops --TomRicardo
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Posted 01 June 2009 - 08:17 AM
Ted Williams was the greatest hitter of all time, but he was nothing else. Thus, I think that he absolutely, positively must be the DH on this team. If we didn't have the DH spot, sure, nominating/voting for him at LF would be a no-brainer, but we do, so it's not. Considering that I'd prefer to see a combination of defense, speed, and ridiculous offensive production in the OF whenever possible, I hereby nominate Barry Bonds.
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Posted 01 June 2009 - 08:24 AM
The DH issue is an interesting one. Are we agreeing on picking the best hitter regardless of era or position? If that's the case then Williams should probably be the guy. But shouldn't it actually be the GOAT DH?
Either way I think we're probably looking at Ted winning for LF, and Ruth for RF, and we'll have to pick the next best hitter for DH (Bonds?) or an actual "DH" (Edgar, Molitor, or Ortiz?)
Either way I think we're probably looking at Ted winning for LF, and Ruth for RF, and we'll have to pick the next best hitter for DH (Bonds?) or an actual "DH" (Edgar, Molitor, or Ortiz?)
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