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4/30-5/3 Sox at Tampa


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#1 drtooth


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Posted 30 April 2009 - 06:18 AM

Currently 8-14, last place in the AL East, 6.5 GB

4/30--Josh Beckett vs Matt Garza (1-2, 4.97)

5/1--Justin Masterson vs Andy Sonnanstine (0-3, 7.79)

5/2--Tim Wakefield vs Jeff Niemann (2-2, 4.43)

5/3--Brad Penny vs TBA according to mlb.com--Probably James Shields (2-2, 3.74)

The Rays have not won a series since opening the season winning 2 of 3 at Fenway. Some of the issues at play so far:

1. Starting pitching. Way too many walks. Only Shields has a BB/9 under 3.00 Sonnanstine walked 37 in 193.1 IP last year. He already has 8 BB (3.66 BB/9) in 19.2 IP. Garza and Niemann are both well over 4.00 BB/9.

2. Bullpen. Two of the main setup men out of the pen, Dan Wheeler and Grant Balfour, have been a disaster early on (combined 13.1 IP, 12 R). Percival (though pitching) is not the dominant closer he once was.

3. Offense--Either hit or miss. They either score 8-10 runs or they score 1-2.


No reason that the Sox can't take 3 of 4. The only pitching match-up that worries me is the Sunday Shields vs Penny.

#2 smastroyin


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Posted 30 April 2009 - 07:17 AM

I'll be honest, all of these matchups are scary to me. Until the Sox prove that they can muster some kind of offense against Garza and Sonnanstine I won't write them off. Honestly I will be happy with a split. These guys aren't as bad as they've been pitching, and frankly they seem to get well against the Red Sox consistently.

When was the last time there was a Sox-Rays series where Kazmir was active but didn't have a start? A rare occasion indeed.

#3 yecul


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Posted 30 April 2009 - 08:15 AM

Splitting a 4-game road series against a talented team would be a good outcome.

I like Wakefield's game during his strong streak, so taking one of the first two will set them up to split or even take the series. Beckett starting to throw consistently well would really help for this series and would be a nice sign going forward.

Getting to Sonnanstine after last year would be nice.

#4 behindthepen


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Posted 30 April 2009 - 12:00 PM

b-ref data is a day old, so this is all I've got.

Sheet1
thru 4/28 BA OBP SLG OPS BAbip PA Ptn% HR% SO% BB% K/BB XBH% X/H% GB/FB
James Shields .238 .304 .437 .741 .233 138 50% 4.4% 12.3% 8.0% 1.5 9.4% 43% 0.91
Matt Garza .209 .315 .374 .688 .242 108 56% 2.8% 22.2% 13.0% 1.7 7.4% 42% 0.66
Jeff Niemann .247 .347 .424 .770 .250 98 52% 4.1% 13.3% 11.2% 1.2 7.1% 33% 0.52
*Scott Kazmir .220 .319 .378 .697 .242 94 77% 3.2% 18.1% 12.8% 1.4 7.5% 39% 0.71
Andy Sonnanstine .333 .398 .488 .886 .397 93 54% 1.1% 16.1% 8.6% 1.9 9.7% 32% 0.55
thru 4/28 BA OBP SLG OPS BAbip PA Ptn% HR% SO% BB% K/BB XBH% X/H% GB/FB
Lance Cormier .286 .355 .357 .712 .314 62 53% 0.0% 8.1% 9.7% 0.8 4.8% 19% 1.32
Joe Nelson .152 .282 .273 .555 .190 39 64% 2.6% 28.2% 15.4% 1.8 5.1% 40% 0.29
*J.P. Howell .273 .324 .364 .688 .391 38 84% 0.0% 29.0% 5.3% 5.5 7.9% 33% 1.09
Dan Wheeler .290 .313 .645 .958 .273 32 47% 9.4% 18.8% 3.1% 6.1 15.6% 56% 0.39
Grant Ball Four .292 .438 .375 .813 .368 32 38% 0.0% 18.8% 21.9% 0.9 6.3% 29% 0.8
*Brian Shouse .250 .250 .393 .643 .250 28 54% 3.6% 10.7% 0.0% 7.1% 29% 4
Troy Percival .318 .400 .500 .900 .333 25 48% 4.0% 12.0% 12.0% 1.0 8.0% 29% 0.36
Team Total .253 .335 .416 .750 .281 787 57% 2.9% 16.7% 10.3% 1.6 8.0% 36% 0.74
thru 4/28 BA OBP SLG OPS BAbip PA Ptn% HR% SO% BB% K/BB XBH% X/H% GB/FB
League Average .266 .340 .425 .766 .299 55% 2.9% 17.0% 9.4% 1.8 8.0% 34% 0.75



Offensively, their hitting line is just about league average, but their run production of 4.5 is a little below. Their hitting line at home is also low, but they've only had one home series of 7 games (vs. nyy and CHW).

Sheet2
Pos Player BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+ PA HR BB SO
C Shawn Riggans .250 .250 1.000 1.250 205 4 1 0 0
3B Evan Longoria .365 .422 .703 1.124 186 83 5 8 16
UT Ben Zobrist# .275 .356 .650 1.006 154 45 4 5 12
1B Carlos Pena* .256 .333 .667 1.000 152 87 9 9 24
SS Jason Bartlett .378 .418 .541 .958 147 79 3 4 9
2B Akinori Iwamura* .296 .359 .394 .753 96 78 0 7 17
OF Gabe Kapler .219 .306 .406 .712 83 36 0 4 6
DH Pat Burrell .238 .364 .317 .681 79 77 1 13 13
LF Carl Crawford* .274 .333 .345 .679 77 93 0 7 19
RF Gabe Gross* .188 .350 .313 .663 74 40 1 8 8
CF Matthew Joyce* .100 .250 .400 .650 65 12 1 1 2
CF B.J. Upton .151 .297 .189 .486 30 64 0 11 19
UT Willy Aybar# .160 .214 .240 .454 18 28 0 2 5
C Dioner Navarro# .176 .188 .265 .453 16 70 1 1 14
C Michel Hernandez .222 .222 .222 .444 16 9 0 0 1
-- -- BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+ PA HR BB SO
Team Totals .259 .335 .438 .773 99 805 26 80 165
Rank in 14 AL teams 9 8 6 7 5 6 3


#5 JimD

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Posted 30 April 2009 - 03:04 PM

I'll be honest, all of these matchups are scary to me. Until the Sox prove that they can muster some kind of offense against Garza and Sonnanstine I won't write them off. Honestly I will be happy with a split. These guys aren't as bad as they've been pitching, and frankly they seem to get well against the Red Sox consistently.


My thoughts exactly - the Rays are certainly not afraid of the Sox, and frankly may be looking to recapture some of that 2008 magic against their rivals.

Edited by JimD, 30 April 2009 - 03:04 PM.


#6 trekfan55

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Posted 30 April 2009 - 04:52 PM

Wait a second, it's a four game set and the Sox don't get tp face Kazmir? I thought that was some sort of federal law or something.

But right I guess Andy freaking Sonnanstine is worse, he of the 7.79 ERA who seems to transform into a mixture of Cy Young nad Walter Johnson every time he faces the Sox.

#7 patinorange


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Posted 01 May 2009 - 07:27 AM

My thoughts exactly - the Rays are certainly not afraid of the Sox, and frankly may be looking to recapture some of that 2008 magic against their rivals.



Last night was a hell of a start.

#8 irinmike

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Posted 01 May 2009 - 09:08 AM

Garza could be an elite pitcher for sure if he only faced the Sox all season.

#9 drtooth


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Posted 01 May 2009 - 10:52 AM

The interesting part of tonight's game will be to see if Tampa continues it's pattern of offensive outburst followed by little to no offense.

1. Score 11 runs on 4/12 vs O's and 15 the next day vs NY (home opener), then go on to score 2, 3 and 2 runs in the next 3 games.

2. Rays get 6 vs the White Sox and then score 3, 2 and 2 runs after that.

3. 4/22 Rays plate 9 runs then are shutout the next day.

4. 4/24 Tampa gets 9 vs A's and the score 3 in the next 2 games combined.

5. 4/27 Rays get 7 runs vs Twins then plate 3 in each of the next 2 games.

This has pretty much been and all-or-nothing offense the entire season, so far.




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