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[SoxScout]

ESPN has it too. Done deal.

[CaptainLaddie]

I can't say I'm shocked.

[Omar's Wacky Neighbor]

It better be for a ton.....

[BoSoxLady]

Shocker!

[Rudy Pemberton]

Are they simultaneously announcing the Varitek signing too, since it's well known that it's a package deal?

[FelixMantilla]

I'm gonna love hatin' this guy.

[TheShynessClinic]

You've got to be kidding me.

[NYCSox]

The only fucking result I didn't want to see and it happens. It wouldn't have bothered me one bit if he had gone to the Nats or the O's or the Angels.

[loshjott]

8/180 is at the upper level of what I though the Sox should do. I can't say I'm really pissed the Sox didn't spend it, however.

[Mugsys Jock]

I have to assume they gave him the opt-out. In which case, whatever... that's not a good deal.

[Carlos Cowart]

ESPN just said 8/170

[TheStoryofYourRedRightAnkle]

So do the Yanks still get to ask NYC for money for their stadium?

[Seabass177]

Well, the Yankees have had a hell of an offseason here. If there's no opt-out clause, then the Sox should've matched this. Not just so he didn't go to the Yanks, but because they need a middle of the order bat for the next few years.

They are going to be incredibly formidable next year.

[BS_SoxFan]

ESPN just said 8/170

OTL Weekly or whatever it's called said 8 years and over 170,000,000

[Foulkey Reese]

ESPN just said 8/170

I'm shocked that the Sox wouldn't top that.

[Smiling Joe Hesketh]

ESPN just said 8/170

If that's the case it's completely mindboggling to me that the Sox wouldn't match/top that offer.

[Rudy Pemberton]

I'm shocked that the Sox wouldn't top that.

Why? Has this organization made any deals for anywhere near that long for anywhere near that much? I mean, Teixeira is a nice player but come on.

[Rudy Pemberton]

I'm shocked that the Sox wouldn't top that.

Why? Has this organization made any deals for anywhere near that long for anywhere near that much? I mean, Teixeira is a nice player but come on.

[Quintanariffic]

If that's the case it's completely mindboggling to me that the Sox wouldn't match/top that offer.

How do you know they didn't?

[pedantsoxfan]

THis is just terrible. I am very disappointed. What kind of a team will New York have this coming summer? If this report is good and they did really get Free Agent 1Bman whose name I can't spell, then they are the team to beat.

Bummer.

[86spike]

$30M for ARod
$25M for Teix
$23M for CC
$22M for Jeter
$18M for Burnett

$118M for 5 players (before you even count in the luxury taxes on top of that?).

Who cares that the economy is teetering on the edge of oblivion?

[loshjott]

Well, the Yankees have had a hell of an offseason here. If there's no opt-out clause, then the Sox should've matched this. Not just so he didn't go to the Yanks, but because they need a middle of the order bat for the next few years.

They are going to be incredibly formidable next year.

Hard as it is for us to believe, maybe Teixeira simply chose the Yanks over the Sox with comparable offers on the table.

[DeJesus Built My Hotrod]

On paper, the Yankees have had a very good offseason - and Teixeira definitely fills a need for them. It will be interesting to see how the Yankees manage their finances going forward. The economy, especially in NY, is not likely to recover anytime soon and they may have a harder time printing the type of money they had been making, especially given the new Toilet.

Furthermore, the reports that seem to indicate that talent will be available by trade as other teams move to shed payroll make a lot of sense. The Sox may yet make some moves that help them keep pace. The downside however, is that Teixeira only would have cost money and now they will have to move cost-controlled bodies to upgrade.

[bsj]

So do the Yanks still get to ask NYC for money for their stadium?

Of course. And they'll get it. And no one in NYC will think twice.

But then they'll charge people 25% taxes on music downloads.

But that's another issue for another thread.

[Hildy]

If that's the case it's completely mindboggling to me that the Sox wouldn't match/top that offer.

There has to be an opt-out clause in this, otherwise it makes no sense at all that the Sox didn't match that offer.
Can't say I'm surprised--Yankees in full on stealth mode for a position of need--shades of Damon, although not a direct parallel.
It is infuriating, though.

Edited by Hildy, 23 December 2008 - 03:38 PM.

[Razor Shines]

So, that's over $400 million committed to 3 free agents this winter.

Hey, all you can do is laugh. I think the Onion wrote a parody article a few years back that resembled this scenario.

It's reminiscent of the winter of 2003.

[TomRicardo]

If that's the case it's completely mindboggling to me that the Sox wouldn't match/top that offer.

It was the no trade clause.

[TomRicardo]

Of course. And they'll get it. And no one in NYC will think twice.

But then they'll charge people 25% taxes on music downloads.

But that's another issue for another thread.

No there is absolutely no way they are getting the money Bloomsberg almost cried laughing when they asked.

[paulie102704]

He also gets a full NTC, which we know the Sox never offer. This blows chunks. They will sign Pettitte, trade for Cameron now that they have a glut of corner OF'ers. Wow can't really complain about their offseason. But hey Wes Littleton and the impending corpse of Tek should even things out.

[Senorec]

It was the no trade clause.

Absolutely. If the Sox matched that they would completely contradict their personnel policy of the past 5 years.

[Winger 03]

$30M for ARod
$25M for Teix
$23M for CC
$22M for Jeter
$18M for Burnett

$118M for 5 players (before you even count in the luxury taxes on top of that?).

Who cares that the economy is teetering on the edge of oblivion?

That's right. Who cares. It is not your or my money, let them spend. If fiscal responsibility is what determines who we are fans of, then we should grab a KC hat.

I never understood why people get worked up over payroll.

[Philip Jeff Frye]

Well, the Yankees have had a hell of an offseason here.

They are going to be incredibly formidable next year.

How many times have we heard this over the last five years?

[BostonFan23]

I get the feeling it comes down to this guy just not really wanting to be a Red Sox, unless the money was phenomenal, relative to the other offers on the table.

[Dick Pole Upside]

Oh well... c'est la guerre...

It'll be interesting to see what kind of market Boras stirs up for Manny now... or will the Yanks sign him, too for 3/70 or so?

[Caspir]

I have to assume they gave him the opt-out. In which case, whatever... that's not a good deal.

You keep telling yourself that. Opt out, no opt out, it's irrelevant. If he performs well and opts out, he gets a new deal. What does that have to do with him being in the middle of the order on Opening Day?

$30M for ARod
$25M for Teix
$23M for CC
$22M for Jeter
$18M for Burnett

$118M for 5 players (before you even count in the luxury taxes on top of that?).

Who cares that the economy is teetering on the edge of oblivion?

Yes, because the economy is down, people with money shouldn't buy things they can afford. Don't they know that regular folks need more jobs? Luckily the Red Sox are paying their players minimum wage and throwing in stock options.

Edited by Caspir, 23 December 2008 - 03:47 PM.

[geoduck no quahog]

So what happens to Cashman if the Yankees don't go all the way this year? This latest thing has Steinbrenner written all over it and the two buffoons won't want to be in a position to take blame.

I would not want to be Cashman right now, particularly since he'll only be remembered in baseball history as a GM who knew how to write checks.

[Senorec]

I get the feeling it comes down to this guy just not really wanting to be a Red Sox, unless the money was phenomenal, relative to the other offers on the table.

Distance from Severna Park, MD

NY - 178 miles
Boston - 366

I guess being closer to home was the deciding factor.

[Remagellan]

Oh well... c'est la guerre...

It'll be interesting to see what kind of market Boras stirs up for Manny now... or will the Yanks sign him, too for 3/70 or so?

Who else has the money to do it unless the Mets step up?

Heyman is reporting that the deal is 8 years for 180 million. That's more than the Sox offered from all reports.

Edited by Remagellan, 23 December 2008 - 03:46 PM.

[OttoC]

The Yankees were 3:1 in World Series odds before this (Red Sox, 8:1). Wonder how much that will change?

[E5 Yaz]

Who else has the money to do it unless the Mets step up?

Manny will be the Nats' consolation prize

[paulie102704]

How many times have we heard this over the last five years?

This is going to be the prevailing argument, but signing CC, Burnett, and Teixeira easily makes the Yankees the favorites in the division. IMO, it really is not all that close. The Yankees knew their offense needed a jolt with aging and ineffective players mixed in with A Rod, and they went the extra mile. Sox will likely compete for a playoff spot, but the Yankees just catapulted from mediocre to formidable.

Sox will likely overpay for Holliday, who is really the only true impact FA on the horizon next year.

[glennhoffmania]

This is getting ridiculous. By now everyone is used to the huge advantage they have, but to sign the three biggest FAs in one offseason is insane. There needs to be at least some semblance of balance.

[E5 Yaz]

This is getting ridiculous. By now everyone is used to the huge advantage they have, but to sign the three biggest FAs in one offseason is insane. There needs to be at least some semblance of balance.

There will be calls for salary caps now. They will be ignored.

[NomarRS05]

How many times have we heard this over the last five years?

The difference this time is that the Yanks have just signed three impact players in their primes. In previous extravagant deals and trades they picked up aging or over the hill stars with big names and uncertain futures.

The same cannot be said for this offseason. Cashman absolutely took Theo to town.