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#1 BoSoxLady


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Posted 18 November 2008 - 01:34 PM

According to 'EEI, the "Little Pony" is the MVP. He'll be on the air at 2:00. This is much-deserved recognition. Power to the little people.

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#2 bsj


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Posted 18 November 2008 - 01:37 PM

Fantastic news!

Good for him...thanks for not making me have to tune into the annoying and miserably produced MLB.com announcement, BSL.

1st 2nd baseman since Nellie Fox.

Can you get players who are more different winning the award in back to back years than A-Rod and Pedroia?

Edited by bsj, 18 November 2008 - 01:39 PM.


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Posted 18 November 2008 - 01:41 PM

Awesome. I thought for sure he was going to lose out to Morneau.

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 01:43 PM

I'll let the little big man express my sentiment.

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 01:45 PM

Not sure he was the best choice (I would have gone with Youks or Morneau), but good for him. Rookie of the year and then MVP...what's next? Congrats Dustin.

#6 rembrat


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Posted 18 November 2008 - 01:46 PM

This is great news for our chatty 2B. Hopefully the next time he is in the news it’s for his new long-term contract.

EDIT:"long-term"

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 01:46 PM

Never in my lifetime did I think a munchkin my size would win an MVP award in baseball. Nice work there shrimp.

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 01:48 PM

I've been listening to WEEI since this thread was started and they haven't mentioned it once. Seems odd, no?

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 01:50 PM

Rookie of the year and then MVP...what's next?


Changing agents to Scott Boras.

It's nothing to get too upset over, but I think I might have been inclined to vote for Youk. Changing positions, batting anywhere in the lineup and the offensive numbers seemed to be a tad more impressive than Pedroia's year. A coin flip, essentially.

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 01:51 PM

Not sure he was the best choice (I would have gone with Youks or Morneau), but good for him. Rookie of the year and then MVP...what's next? Congrats Dustin.


Please tell me you meant Mauer...

#11 Curt S Loew


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Posted 18 November 2008 - 01:53 PM

The latest I heard on WEEI was that they polled the ESPN "experts" and Pedroia received 14 out of 27 votes. The official announcement will come at 2:00 PM.

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 01:54 PM

WEEI just said themselves they don't even know who the MVP is...

#13 LahoudOrBillyC


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Posted 18 November 2008 - 01:57 PM

We have all become Will Carroll.

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 02:01 PM

http://mlb.mlb.com/index.jsp

Official

#15 drtooth


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Posted 18 November 2008 - 02:01 PM

MLB.com confirms it

#16 Foulkey Reese


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Posted 18 November 2008 - 02:01 PM

Here's the green website of death.

http://www.baseballw...008_AL_mvp.html

Krod got one 1st place vote. :D

#17 redsox11507

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 02:02 PM

Now official per mlb.com

That would have been embarassing

http://mlb.mlb.com/n...0...sp&c_id=mlb

edit: Youk takes third. Not too shabby.

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 02:04 PM

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MVP!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 02:06 PM

Table
Player Club 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th 8th 9th 10th Points
Dustin Pedroia Boston Red Sox 16 6 4 1 317
Justin Morneau Minnesota Twins 7 7 6 3 3 1 1 257
Kevin Youkilis Boston Red Sox 2 4 4 9 2 4 1 2 201
Joe Mauer Minnesota Twins 2 8 1 3 4 3 3 2 1 188
Carlos Quentin Chicago White Sox 1 4 8 4 4 4 1 1 160
Francisco Rodriguez Los Angeles Angels 1 2 6 1 6 3 2 2 143
Josh Hamilton Texas Rangers 2 2 3 7 3 2 4 3 112
Alex Rodriguez New York Yankees 1 1 4 1 4 7 45
Carlos Pena Tampa Bay Rays 1 2 2 3 2 3 44
Grady Sizemore Cleveland Indians 2 1 5 6 1 42
Evan Longoria Tampa Bay Rays 2 2 5 2 1 38
Cliff Lee Cleveland Indians 1 1 1 1 1 24
Miguel Cabrera Detroit Tigers 1 1 4 1 17
Vladimir Guerrero Los Angeles Angels 2 2 1 16
Jermaine Dye Chicago White Sox 1 2 2 14
Aubrey Huff Baltimore Orioles 1 2 3 12
Milton Bradley Texas Rangers 1 1 9
Jason Bartlett Tampa Bay Rays 1 6
Mike Mussina New York Yankees 1 3
Raul Ibanez Seattle Mariners 1 1
Ian Kinsler Texas Rangers 1 1
Ichiro Suzuki Seattle Mariners 1 1
Mark Teixeira Los Angeles Angels 1 1


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Posted 18 November 2008 - 02:06 PM

A Giant Among Men

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#21 mt8thsw9th


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Posted 18 November 2008 - 02:06 PM

http://www.baseballw...008_AL_mvp.html


A second baseman had not won the MVP Award in the AL since 1959 when Nellie Fox of the Chicago White Sox was honored. Pedroia is only the fourth AL second baseman and 10th overall to win. The other AL winners were the New York Yankees' Joe Gordon in 1942 and the Detroit Tigers' Charlie Gehringer in 1937. The award has been won by a second baseman in the NL six times, including two-time winner Joe Morgan of the Cincinnati Reds in 1975 and 1976. The others were the St. Louis Cardinals' Frankie Frisch in 1931, the Brooklyn Dodgers' Jackie Robinson in 1949, the Chicago Cubs' Ryne Sandberg in 1984 and the San Francisco Giants' Jeff Kent in 2000. No position has had fewer MVP winners.



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Posted 18 November 2008 - 02:07 PM

Some idiot left Pedroia off his ballot entirely.

Silver Slugger, Gold Glove, and now MVP. Not a bad year. I imagine his text-messages to Gammo will become even more obnoxious now. :D

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 02:07 PM

Here's the green website of death.

http://www.baseballw...008_AL_mvp.html

Krod got one 1st place vote. :D


Per this site, Pedroia was left off one ballot. Mauer and Quentin were also on 27 ballots; Youk and Morneau the only ones to be on all 28.

I'd like to see those three ballots. Must be the guy who voted for Bartlett and Mussina.

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 02:08 PM

And some guy gave Jason Bartlett a 5th place vote. It boggles the mind.

#25 xjack


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Posted 18 November 2008 - 02:09 PM

I'd love to know who thought Jason Bartlett was worthy of an MVP vote.

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 02:10 PM

I'd love to know who thought Jason Bartlett was worthy of an MVP vote.

Raul Ibanez got a 10th place vote. :D

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 02:11 PM

Two MVP's!!!!!


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#28 E5 Yaz


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Posted 18 November 2008 - 02:11 PM

Does George King still get an MVP ballot?

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 02:13 PM

Silver Slugger, Gold Glove, and now MVP. Not a bad year. I imagine his text-messages to Gammo will become even more obnoxious now.



Keith Law knew this day would come. :D

#30 drtooth


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Posted 18 November 2008 - 02:16 PM

Raul Ibanez got a 10th place vote. :D



How about Mike Mussina getting an 8th place vote???

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 02:16 PM

The best part of this is that the following video now features TWO Sox MVPs:

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#32 mt8thsw9th


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Posted 18 November 2008 - 02:22 PM

Some idiot left Pedroia off his ballot entirely.

Silver Slugger, Gold Glove, and now MVP. Not a bad year. I imagine his text-messages to Gammo will become even more obnoxious now. :D


You know, I can see why someone would argue he's not MVP, or even top 3, but leaving someone off the ballot entirely should be grounds for stripping someone of their voting privileges. Honestly, if you leave the eventual winner of MVP off your ballot, it shows you're completely out of touch with the game, or extremely biased or vindicative, and you shouldn't be allowed to submit a ballot in the future.

#33 bankshot1


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Posted 18 November 2008 - 02:23 PM

Congrats to the yappy 2nd sacker

GG-Silver slugger-MVP

the guy's going to want a raise!

#34 Snodgrass'Muff


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Posted 18 November 2008 - 02:23 PM

I'd have been fine with any of Pedroia, Youkilis or Mauer. Great year from the little guy. It's nice to be able to fall back on an MVP award when arguing that Pedroia is the best second baseman in the majors right now. :D

#35 Foulkey Reese


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Posted 18 November 2008 - 02:26 PM

"Morneau and Youkilis were the only players named on all ballots. Pedroia was left off one ballot entirely -- by Evan Grant of the Dallas Morning News, who gave Youkilis his first-place vote. Both Boston writers voted Pedroia first."


http://www.boston.co...as/extra_bases/

What an idiot.

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 02:30 PM

Two MVP's!!!!!
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I LOVE that pic!!!

Congrats to Pedroia certainly. He earned it. But I can't say that Youk didn't also earn it...switching from first to third, 29 homeruns, etc., etc. How lucky are we that we've got a team where 2 of the players could have earned the MVP. And we've got them for a few more years to come...

#37 sodenj5

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 02:32 PM

Congrats to DP. My condolences to every member of the front office, clubhouse and media, because Pedroia will now officially never shut up.

A long term deal to lock up the little infielder that could would be a nice way to finish things off.

#38 dbn

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 02:34 PM

Rookie of the year and then MVP...what's next?


2009 WS MVP?

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 02:34 PM

It's amazing to think back to just a year and a half ago. Spring 2007--batting .172 on May 1--most of us couldn't wait to get rid of the little guy with the huge swing who seemed so overmatched. And now: MVP. Wow! Kudos to him, and kudos also to F.O. and Tito.

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 02:34 PM

Amazing, super, all that stuff. Now can we get to the important question: where does Pedroia rank for shortest MVPs of the modern era?

#41 mjswarner

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 02:35 PM

http://www.boston.co...as/extra_bases/

What an idiot.

Evan Grant's ballot that he wrote up a week ago. It's got Pedroia on it, maybe he just forgot?

Most Valuable Player

American League: Kevin Youkilis, Boston

Comments: One school of thought is Dustin Pedroia's peskiness atop the order makes the Red Sox go. He may win the batting title, but batting titles don't mean what they once did. This is the age of on-base percentage and on-base-plus-slugging, and Youkilis leads his teammate in both categories, by a whopping margin in OPS. He's also hitting .360 with runners in scoring position.

The full ballot: 1. Kevin Youkilis, Boston; 2. Justin Morneau, Minnesota; 3. Francisco Rodriguez, Los Angeles Angels;4. Dustin Pedroia, Boston; 5. Josh Hamilton, Texas; 6. Carlos Quentin, Chicago White Sox; 7. Alex Rodriguez, New York Yankees; 8. Cliff Lee, Cleveland; 9. Joe Mauer, Minnesota; 10. Grady Sizemore, Cleveland.



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Posted 18 November 2008 - 02:36 PM

I believe that the Red Sox are the only organization to have an MVP in every decade since the award was given out by the BBWA:

30s: Foxx
40s: Williams (twice)
50s: Jensen
60s: Yastrzemski
70s: Lynn and Rice
80s: Clemens
90s: Vaughn
00s: Pedroia

Not a bad list at all.

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 02:37 PM

Evan Grant's ballot that he wrote up a week ago. It's got Pedroia on it, maybe he just forgot?

That would make him an even bigger idiot.

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 02:38 PM

I was doing some quick math on the table, sure I was wrong, and then I came to post here. It boggles the mind that Pedroia was not among the 10 most valuable players in the league according to one writer. Are there no reviews of these things?

I am so happy for Pedroia that I'm willing to overlook the fact that some idiot(s) have given votes to the likes of Jason Bartlett, Mike Mussina, and even a first place vote to Krod.

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 02:38 PM

http://www.dallasnew...QT.2f0b790.html

if the voters can't agree on who meant more to Boston, Kevin Youkilis or Dustin Pedroia.

I think the award should go to Youkilis. His offensive numberssave for overrated batting average, dwarfed those of Pedroia.


It appears he was trying to make a point that his winner, Youk, was better than Pedroia and he childishly kept Pedroia off the ballot as his "statement."

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 02:39 PM

http://www.dallasnew...QT.2f0b790.html
It appears he was trying to make a point that his winner, Youk, was better than Pedroia and he childishly kept Pedroia off the ballot as his "statement."

If that is the case then he should have his ballot taken away. Balloting for these awards is not supposed to be an opportunity for these guys to even scores, or make points by pulling stunts like this.

It also appears, from reading his justification, that he doesn't bother to consider which position a guy plays when voting for MVP.

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 02:40 PM

Amazing, super, all that stuff. Now can we get to the important question: where does Pedroia rank for shortest MVPs of the modern era?


Thank George King for this one, but he's the shortest since IRod. Offhand I'd say Yogi Berra's probably the closest in terms of height.

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 02:41 PM

And some guy gave Jason Bartlett a 5th place vote. It boggles the mind.

I don't know about that...I heard somewhere that he's the Rays most indispensable player.

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 02:43 PM

Evan Grant's ballot that he wrote up a week ago. It's got Pedroia on it, maybe he just forgot?


That's odd. I don't agree with everything he wrote, but I think he took the voting seriously and knows enough about baseball. He must have simply screwed up with the actual ballot.

Don't know how you remedy something like this for the future, because calling the guy from the BBWAA office and suggesting, "are you sure you didn't mean to include Pedroia?" would also harm the integrity of the process.

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 02:45 PM

It also appears, from reading his justification, that he doesn't bother to consider which position a guy plays when voting for MVP.


Well, he did mention Youk having to play both 1B and 3B, so i don't think your point is accurate. But stil, Evan Evan Evan ... I just defended my former co-worker this week when one of his columns failed in the spam filter. I can't defend him here.

That "original" ballot of his, listing Pedroia fourth, could be defesible. leaving him off the ballot entirely cannot. Evan, I rescind my defense. You are an idiot.

Edited by E5 Yaz, 18 November 2008 - 02:46 PM.