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Pedroia is the MVP!
#1
Posted 18 November 2008 - 01:34 PM
#2
Posted 18 November 2008 - 01:37 PM
Good for him...thanks for not making me have to tune into the annoying and miserably produced MLB.com announcement, BSL.
1st 2nd baseman since Nellie Fox.
Can you get players who are more different winning the award in back to back years than A-Rod and Pedroia?
Edited by bsj, 18 November 2008 - 01:39 PM.
#3
Posted 18 November 2008 - 01:41 PM
#4
Posted 18 November 2008 - 01:43 PM
#5
Posted 18 November 2008 - 01:45 PM
#6
Posted 18 November 2008 - 01:46 PM
EDIT:"long-term"
Edited by rembrat, 18 November 2008 - 01:46 PM.
#7
Posted 18 November 2008 - 01:46 PM
#8
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Posted 18 November 2008 - 01:48 PM
#9
Posted 18 November 2008 - 01:50 PM
Rookie of the year and then MVP...what's next?
Changing agents to Scott Boras.
It's nothing to get too upset over, but I think I might have been inclined to vote for Youk. Changing positions, batting anywhere in the lineup and the offensive numbers seemed to be a tad more impressive than Pedroia's year. A coin flip, essentially.
#10
Posted 18 November 2008 - 01:51 PM
Not sure he was the best choice (I would have gone with Youks or Morneau), but good for him. Rookie of the year and then MVP...what's next? Congrats Dustin.
Please tell me you meant Mauer...
#11
Posted 18 November 2008 - 01:53 PM
#12
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Posted 18 November 2008 - 01:54 PM
#13
Posted 18 November 2008 - 01:57 PM
#16
Posted 18 November 2008 - 02:01 PM
http://www.baseballw...008_AL_mvp.html
Krod got one 1st place vote.
#17
Posted 18 November 2008 - 02:02 PM
That would have been embarassing
http://mlb.mlb.com/n...0...sp&c_id=mlb
edit: Youk takes third. Not too shabby.
Edited by redsox11507, 18 November 2008 - 02:06 PM.
#18
Posted 18 November 2008 - 02:04 PM

MVP!!!!!!!!!!!!
#19
Posted 18 November 2008 - 02:06 PM
| Player | Club | 1st | 2nd | 3rd | 4th | 5th | 6th | 7th | 8th | 9th | 10th | Points |
| Dustin Pedroia | Boston Red Sox | 16 | 6 | 4 | 1 | — | — | — | — | — | — | 317 |
| Justin Morneau | Minnesota Twins | 7 | 7 | 6 | 3 | 3 | 1 | 1 | — | — | — | 257 |
| Kevin Youkilis | Boston Red Sox | 2 | 4 | 4 | 9 | 2 | 4 | 1 | 2 | — | — | 201 |
| Joe Mauer | Minnesota Twins | 2 | 8 | 1 | 3 | 4 | 3 | 3 | 2 | 1 | — | 188 |
| Carlos Quentin | Chicago White Sox | — | 1 | 4 | 8 | 4 | 4 | 4 | — | 1 | 1 | 160 |
| Francisco Rodriguez | Los Angeles Angels | 1 | 2 | 6 | 1 | 6 | — | 3 | 2 | — | 2 | 143 |
| Josh Hamilton | Texas Rangers | — | — | 2 | 2 | 3 | 7 | 3 | 2 | 4 | 3 | 112 |
| Alex Rodriguez | New York Yankees | — | — | — | — | 1 | 1 | 4 | 1 | 4 | 7 | 45 |
| Carlos Pena | Tampa Bay Rays | — | — | 1 | — | 2 | — | 2 | 3 | 2 | 3 | 44 |
| Grady Sizemore | Cleveland Indians | — | — | — | — | — | 2 | 1 | 5 | 6 | 1 | 42 |
| Evan Longoria | Tampa Bay Rays | — | — | — | — | — | 2 | 2 | 5 | 2 | 1 | 38 |
| Cliff Lee | Cleveland Indians | — | — | — | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | — | 1 | — | 24 |
| Miguel Cabrera | Detroit Tigers | — | — | — | — | — | 1 | — | 1 | 4 | 1 | 17 |
| Vladimir Guerrero | Los Angeles Angels | — | — | — | — | — | — | 2 | 2 | 1 | — | 16 |
| Jermaine Dye | Chicago White Sox | — | — | — | — | 1 | — | — | 2 | — | 2 | 14 |
| Aubrey Huff | Baltimore Orioles | — | — | — | — | — | 1 | — | — | 2 | 3 | 12 |
| Milton Bradley | Texas Rangers | — | — | — | — | — | 1 | 1 | — | — | — | 9 |
| Jason Bartlett | Tampa Bay Rays | — | — | — | — | 1 | — | — | — | — | — | 6 |
| Mike Mussina | New York Yankees | — | — | — | — | — | — | — | 1 | — | — | 3 |
| Raul Ibanez | Seattle Mariners | — | — | — | — | — | — | — | — | — | 1 | 1 |
| Ian Kinsler | Texas Rangers | — | — | — | — | — | — | — | — | — | 1 | 1 |
| Ichiro Suzuki | Seattle Mariners | — | — | — | — | — | — | — | — | — | 1 | 1 |
| Mark Teixeira | Los Angeles Angels | — | — | — | — | — | — | — | — | — | 1 | 1 |
#20
Posted 18 November 2008 - 02:06 PM
#21
Posted 18 November 2008 - 02:06 PM
A second baseman had not won the MVP Award in the AL since 1959 when Nellie Fox of the Chicago White Sox was honored. Pedroia is only the fourth AL second baseman and 10th overall to win. The other AL winners were the New York Yankees' Joe Gordon in 1942 and the Detroit Tigers' Charlie Gehringer in 1937. The award has been won by a second baseman in the NL six times, including two-time winner Joe Morgan of the Cincinnati Reds in 1975 and 1976. The others were the St. Louis Cardinals' Frankie Frisch in 1931, the Brooklyn Dodgers' Jackie Robinson in 1949, the Chicago Cubs' Ryne Sandberg in 1984 and the San Francisco Giants' Jeff Kent in 2000. No position has had fewer MVP winners.
#22
Posted 18 November 2008 - 02:07 PM
Silver Slugger, Gold Glove, and now MVP. Not a bad year. I imagine his text-messages to Gammo will become even more obnoxious now.
#23
Posted 18 November 2008 - 02:07 PM
Here's the green website of death.
http://www.baseballw...008_AL_mvp.html
Krod got one 1st place vote.
Per this site, Pedroia was left off one ballot. Mauer and Quentin were also on 27 ballots; Youk and Morneau the only ones to be on all 28.
I'd like to see those three ballots. Must be the guy who voted for Bartlett and Mussina.
#24
Posted 18 November 2008 - 02:08 PM
#25
Posted 18 November 2008 - 02:09 PM
#26
Posted 18 November 2008 - 02:10 PM
Raul Ibanez got a 10th place vote.I'd love to know who thought Jason Bartlett was worthy of an MVP vote.
#27
Posted 18 November 2008 - 02:11 PM
#28
Posted 18 November 2008 - 02:11 PM
#29
Posted 18 November 2008 - 02:13 PM
Silver Slugger, Gold Glove, and now MVP. Not a bad year. I imagine his text-messages to Gammo will become even more obnoxious now.
Keith Law knew this day would come.
#30
Posted 18 November 2008 - 02:16 PM
Raul Ibanez got a 10th place vote.
How about Mike Mussina getting an 8th place vote???
#31
Posted 18 November 2008 - 02:16 PM
#32
Posted 18 November 2008 - 02:22 PM
Some idiot left Pedroia off his ballot entirely.
Silver Slugger, Gold Glove, and now MVP. Not a bad year. I imagine his text-messages to Gammo will become even more obnoxious now.
You know, I can see why someone would argue he's not MVP, or even top 3, but leaving someone off the ballot entirely should be grounds for stripping someone of their voting privileges. Honestly, if you leave the eventual winner of MVP off your ballot, it shows you're completely out of touch with the game, or extremely biased or vindicative, and you shouldn't be allowed to submit a ballot in the future.
#33
Posted 18 November 2008 - 02:23 PM
GG-Silver slugger-MVP
the guy's going to want a raise!
#34
Posted 18 November 2008 - 02:23 PM
#35
Posted 18 November 2008 - 02:26 PM
"Morneau and Youkilis were the only players named on all ballots. Pedroia was left off one ballot entirely -- by Evan Grant of the Dallas Morning News, who gave Youkilis his first-place vote. Both Boston writers voted Pedroia first."
http://www.boston.co...as/extra_bases/
What an idiot.
#36
Posted 18 November 2008 - 02:30 PM
I LOVE that pic!!!Two MVP's!!!!!
Congrats to Pedroia certainly. He earned it. But I can't say that Youk didn't also earn it...switching from first to third, 29 homeruns, etc., etc. How lucky are we that we've got a team where 2 of the players could have earned the MVP. And we've got them for a few more years to come...
#37
Posted 18 November 2008 - 02:32 PM
A long term deal to lock up the little infielder that could would be a nice way to finish things off.
#38
Posted 18 November 2008 - 02:34 PM
Rookie of the year and then MVP...what's next?
2009 WS MVP?
#39
Posted 18 November 2008 - 02:34 PM
#40
Posted 18 November 2008 - 02:34 PM
#41
Posted 18 November 2008 - 02:35 PM
Evan Grant's ballot that he wrote up a week ago. It's got Pedroia on it, maybe he just forgot?http://www.boston.co...as/extra_bases/
What an idiot.
Most Valuable Player
American League: Kevin Youkilis, Boston
Comments: One school of thought is Dustin Pedroia's peskiness atop the order makes the Red Sox go. He may win the batting title, but batting titles don't mean what they once did. This is the age of on-base percentage and on-base-plus-slugging, and Youkilis leads his teammate in both categories, by a whopping margin in OPS. He's also hitting .360 with runners in scoring position.
The full ballot: 1. Kevin Youkilis, Boston; 2. Justin Morneau, Minnesota; 3. Francisco Rodriguez, Los Angeles Angels;4. Dustin Pedroia, Boston; 5. Josh Hamilton, Texas; 6. Carlos Quentin, Chicago White Sox; 7. Alex Rodriguez, New York Yankees; 8. Cliff Lee, Cleveland; 9. Joe Mauer, Minnesota; 10. Grady Sizemore, Cleveland.
#42
Posted 18 November 2008 - 02:36 PM
30s: Foxx
40s: Williams (twice)
50s: Jensen
60s: Yastrzemski
70s: Lynn and Rice
80s: Clemens
90s: Vaughn
00s: Pedroia
Not a bad list at all.
#44
Posted 18 November 2008 - 02:38 PM
I am so happy for Pedroia that I'm willing to overlook the fact that some idiot(s) have given votes to the likes of Jason Bartlett, Mike Mussina, and even a first place vote to Krod.
#45
Posted 18 November 2008 - 02:38 PM
if the voters can't agree on who meant more to Boston, Kevin Youkilis or Dustin Pedroia.
I think the award should go to Youkilis. His offensive numberssave for overrated batting average, dwarfed those of Pedroia.
It appears he was trying to make a point that his winner, Youk, was better than Pedroia and he childishly kept Pedroia off the ballot as his "statement."
#46
Posted 18 November 2008 - 02:39 PM
If that is the case then he should have his ballot taken away. Balloting for these awards is not supposed to be an opportunity for these guys to even scores, or make points by pulling stunts like this.http://www.dallasnew...QT.2f0b790.html
It appears he was trying to make a point that his winner, Youk, was better than Pedroia and he childishly kept Pedroia off the ballot as his "statement."
It also appears, from reading his justification, that he doesn't bother to consider which position a guy plays when voting for MVP.
#47
Posted 18 November 2008 - 02:40 PM
Amazing, super, all that stuff. Now can we get to the important question: where does Pedroia rank for shortest MVPs of the modern era?
Thank George King for this one, but he's the shortest since IRod. Offhand I'd say Yogi Berra's probably the closest in terms of height.
#48
Posted 18 November 2008 - 02:41 PM
I don't know about that...I heard somewhere that he's the Rays most indispensable player.And some guy gave Jason Bartlett a 5th place vote. It boggles the mind.
#49
Posted 18 November 2008 - 02:43 PM
Evan Grant's ballot that he wrote up a week ago. It's got Pedroia on it, maybe he just forgot?
That's odd. I don't agree with everything he wrote, but I think he took the voting seriously and knows enough about baseball. He must have simply screwed up with the actual ballot.
Don't know how you remedy something like this for the future, because calling the guy from the BBWAA office and suggesting, "are you sure you didn't mean to include Pedroia?" would also harm the integrity of the process.
#50
Posted 18 November 2008 - 02:45 PM
It also appears, from reading his justification, that he doesn't bother to consider which position a guy plays when voting for MVP.
Well, he did mention Youk having to play both 1B and 3B, so i don't think your point is accurate. But stil, Evan Evan Evan ... I just defended my former co-worker this week when one of his columns failed in the spam filter. I can't defend him here.
That "original" ballot of his, listing Pedroia fourth, could be defesible. leaving him off the ballot entirely cannot. Evan, I rescind my defense. You are an idiot.
Edited by E5 Yaz, 18 November 2008 - 02:46 PM.
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