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[bosoxx05]

Arroyo vs Lilly

lets get back on track.

[happybooker99]

Lily should wake up the bats.

Win this one.

[Return of the Dewey]

Damon's shoulder doesn't sound ready to go via Boston Herald this morning. I don't know what his numbers are against Lily, but, if expected (b/c he's a LH), tonight's as good a night as any to give him a full day off. Hopefully, Manny will be back to his mashing ways against LH's tonight. Really could use at least 2 outta 3 for this series.

[5belongstoGeorge]

Teams that are named after birds suck.

Go Red Sox!

[Joe D Reid]

[LateRally]

This Lilly domination of the Sox has got to stop. Someone mentioned earlier in the year how he might be harboring a mega-grudge against the Sox ever since that bush-league BS in the 03 ALDS when players had written LILLY on the backs of their jackets to goad the crowd. Utterly embarrassing on the part of the Sox and may well have motivated Lilly to give a little extra against us. The numbers at least seem to support this:

Post-bush league BS: 8 starts, 2.86 ERA
Pre-bush league BS: 5 starts, 5.54 ERA

All the more surprising given Lilly's overall numbers have not improved pre vs. post, and the Sox as a team have become a much-better hitting team since. Regardless, we need to get to him tonight.

Edited by LateRally, 12 September 2005 - 11:46 AM.

[Alacoldart]

If there were ever a time the Red Sox NEEDED to beat this guy, it's today. It's just his second start following a lengthy DL stint. His last start had him out of the game after just 2.1IP, giving up 3 earned to Baltimore on 3 hits and 5 walks (did notch 2 Ks, though). He wound up losing that game 5-0.

Patience might be the name of the game tonight: he allowed 8 baserunners while getting 7 outs. Give Charlie some run support and put these hosers away.

[epraz]

If that's all the motivation Lilly needs to be a good pitcher, then the Blue Jays should contract all of their opponents in away games to goad on their crowds.

[941827]

A 3.5-game lead is bigger than a 3-game lead.

Win.

[Lose Remerswaal]

[QUNate]

1. Johnny Damon, CF
2. Edgar Renteria, SS
3. David Ortiz, DH
4. Manny Ramirez, LF
5. Jason Varitek, C
6. Kevin Millar, 1B
7. Trot Nixon, RF
8. Bill Mueller, 3B
9. Tony Graffanino, 2B

With Papi's back still being stiff and with Mirabelli being 6 for 15 with 3 HR's lifetime against Lilly, I think Ortiz should get another day off and Belli should DH. Ortiz is 2 for 19 lifetime against Lilly anyway.

[Alacoldart]

With Papi's back still being stiff and with Mirabelli being 6 for 15 with 3 HR's lifetime against Lilly, I think Ortiz should get another day off and Belli should DH.  Ortiz is 2 for 19 lifetime against Lilly anyway.

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Agreed. Although, with Lilly being recently back from the DL and still trying to get back into his routine, it may not matter much.

[Nuf Ced]

Take off Jays, eh?

[QUNate]

Boston:

Damon CF
Renteria SS
Ortiz DH
Ramirez LF
Varitek C
Millar 1B
Nixon RF
Mueller 3B
Graffanino 2B

Arroyo P

Toronto:

Adams SS
Catalanotto LF
Wells CF
Koskie 3B
Hillenbrand 1B
Hinske DH
Zaun C
Hill 2B
Gross RF

Lilly P

[Country Sinker]

Johnny Damon has been taken out of the line up.
Kapler playing CF and Graffanino leading off

[soxfaninyankeeland]

Game notes

[ragecage]

Kill the birds please.

[Pearl Wilson]

Johnny Damon has been taken out of the line up.
Kapler playing CF and Graffanino leading off

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Ok that's worrisome.

Win anyway.

[bosoxgrl]

[jose melendez]

Sadly no KEYS today. Much lie Johnny Damon, Jose has been pulled from the lineup. Hopefully tomorrow.

[Country Sinker]

Cortisone shots always worry me. It's like a crap shoot.

[savage362]

Don't hold anything back tonight.

Pound the north-of-the-borderians!

[941827]

So everything I've ever seen, read, heard or thought about Ted Lilly says "Make him throw a lot of pitches early." So Graff goes out on 4 pitches and ER gets out on two pitches. That's terrible.

Edited by 941827, 12 September 2005 - 06:13 PM.

[WayneHousieHOF]

And Lilly mows us down. Stunning.

[savage362]

I believe the proper comment to that inning would be, "There's plenty of game left. We'll work the counts and get to him."

[curly2]

Got to hold 'em down, Bronson. It's impossible to explain why Lilly constantly baffles this team, but he does.

[normstalls]

frickin cant stand ted lily...
he deserves a severe beat down tonight!!!
Do it Sox

[Big Guapo Style]

Could we get less effort on the ground ball by ER?

[WayneHousieHOF]

Good. Now let's go hammer Lilly.

[DJnVa]

Could we get less effort on the ground ball by ER?

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This is gonna be a fun thread.

[scotian1]

Could we get less effort on the ground ball by ER?

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It did look playable didn't it. Oh well Arroyo gets out unscathed!

Edited by scotian1, 12 September 2005 - 06:24 PM.

[941827]

Dear Red Sox:

See how the Blue Jays are patient with Arroyo, which results in them getting hits and walks and increasing his pitch count? Be like them.

Love,
941827

P.S. See what Hilly did? Don't do that.

Edited by 941827, 12 September 2005 - 06:23 PM.

[Country Sinker]

From my experience, if Tek comes out to talk to Bronson before inning 3-4 that's not good.

Here's to thinking positive and I hope it works! Whatever he said.

[Nuf Ced]

the fangirl in me just has to say that i hate the high pants look on kapler

that's all

Edited by Nuf Ced, 12 September 2005 - 06:23 PM.

[OilCanShotTupac]

Confidence in Arroyo < Fear of Lilly

[normstalls]

J&J speculated rentria's back might be bothering him...claiming he is not getting down on balls lately.

not sure which is worse, that excuse or just plain lack of effort??

Edited by normstalls, 12 September 2005 - 06:24 PM.

[Country Sinker]

the fangirl in me just has to say that i hate the high pants look on kapler

that's all

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I always hated them on Belly. But the moment he pulled them down (the Yankees series in Boston mid July to be percise), it was the beginning of the end for him in beantown.

[jtn46]

This team hits a lot of 400 foot line drives.

[curly2]

J&J speculated rentria's back might be bothering him...claiming he is not getting down on balls lately.

not sure which is worse, that excuse or just plain lack of effort??

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I was surprised the ball that defelcted of Myers' glove Friday night got under him, which gave the Yankees another run.

[OilCanShotTupac]

Righthanded Tek = savory goodness.

[trekfan55]

Is that Ted Lilly pitching a perfect game?

Edit: And is Gameday working for anyone? On my computer it simply stops and then I find out that Tek struck out!

Edited by trekfan55, 12 September 2005 - 06:29 PM.

[jtn46]

Francona should definitely call him on this pitching rubber thing just to get in his head.

[WayneHousieHOF]

I know it's still early in this game, but it's still frustrating to see him set us down like this.

[Pearl Wilson]

Millar ruins the no-no. The wheels are in motion.

[Nuf Ced]

Kevin Millar has hit in only 11 straight games?

Bum.

[CaptainLaddie]

What does Roberto Petagine have to do to get a start?

And as I write this, Millar gets a hit.

[ragecage]

Millar singles to increase his hitting streak to 11 games. Who'd have thunk? I like it. Let's get more hits.

[scotian1]

It is obvious even with the behind the plate camera that Lilly doesn't have his foot on the rubber. Is it worth calling him on it even perhaps just to upset him or throw him off a bit?

[TeddyLepcio]

[quote name='trekfan55' date='Sep 12 2005, 07:28 PM']
Is that Ted Lilly pitching a perfect game?

Talking about a perfect game in the second inning? Is this MFfans?

[OilCanShotTupac]

Meh.