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[gingerbreadmann]

So how do they break this again?

[Fred not Lynn]

I'm just glad the media isn't giving this story the attention it deserves. Because it's true. Australians hate Nastia. We went into these games with three goals, and it looks like we'll only get to achieve one of them. At least it's the most popular one.

1) Beat Great Britain. (fail)
2) Beat Michael Phelps. (fail)
3) Stop Nastia. (Sucess!)

I can't tell if you're being facetious, or if, in fact, Australia has some irrational national loathing for one particular US gymnast.

[Ahriman]

Bela will bring the tears of fury.

[BigMike]

Ugh, what a joke. Interesting that Valere tied for his gold medal back in 1988, and back then, what a shocker, when 2 people got the same score, they both got the gold medal.

Oh well, hopefully Nastia can get one more medal tomorrow night.

By the way, talk about great genes, Nastia's mom is exceptionally yummy

Maybe Nastia will do an intentional scratch in her balance beam final tomorrow night, in honor of stick it

[njingles3]

Bela will bring the tears of fury.

"Thees of de judges, thees ees not de fair. Nastia was byootiful, byootiful."

[njingles3]

Can the UN send judges?

[phrenile]

Gymnastics scoring was already so inscrutable that I didn't think the IOC could top it. I give the judges a 16.805.

Especially the Australian judge.

Edited by phrenile, 18 August 2008 - 10:23 PM.

[njingles3]

This is more outrageous than the last tiebreaker in the NFL.

[Ed Hillel]

Wow, they are showing the tie-breaking procedures now. I'm honestly shocked at how retarded that really is.

Bela!

[ngruz25]

Nastia looks piiiiiiiiissed.

This is why I can't get behind a sport that relies to heavily on subjectivity. [Insert joke about baseball umps, or if you'd prefer, picture of the Stars winning the Stanley Cup with the skate in the crease!]

[favreauk]

Missed it, whats happening?

[sachmoney]

This is absolutely ridiculous.

Bella Karolyi! This guy is hilarious.

[Hendu's Gait]

First of all, what the flying f*ck??? NO ONE beat Liukin. No one!!! In my world, that's first place. I can see the difficulty being a tiebreaker, but they had the same diff. score. How can anyone take this seriously (any more)? Why are these countries who don't know dingo doo doo about gymnastic judging?

Fake edit: BS tie breaker. Total BS. Take the bottom score out? WTF????


Secondly, around December 31st 2010, this Russian chick is going to be hot. Someone will want to fill her Ova with Semen!

Fake Edit 2: Give them hell, Bela

Fake Edit 3: F*ck Jacques Rogge and F*ck Fascist Juan Antonio Samaranch

[Ed Hillel]

Missed it, whats happening?

Nastia and the Chinese girl got the exact some score, but some absolutely ridiculous tie-breaking procedure gave the medal to the Chinese girl.

[Hendu's Gait]

Missed it, whats happening?

Jokenastics

[RSN Diaspora]

The tie-breaking procedure, while absurd, is nowhere near as bad as Nastia Liukin not winning the gold outright. He's performance just wasn't as good.

[njingles3]

Daggett is pissed.

[Hendu's Gait]

Oh, and this "winner" is f'in 9 years old! DQ HE!!!

[Ed Hillel]

What a shocker, an Australian committing a crime.

[Hendu's Gait]

nm

Edited by Hendu's Gait, 18 August 2008 - 10:39 PM.

[Tony the Pony]

The tie-breaking procedure, while absurd, is nowhere near as bad as Nastia Liukin not winning the gold outright. He's performance just wasn't as good.

I thought the midget in third place actually had the best performance.

Kind of funny seeing all of you being so outraged while that Nastia girl herself kind of shrugs it off stating she knew she didn't have her best routine. Oh, the drama

When's waterpolo?

[gingerbreadmann]

Daggett disagrees. On multiple occasions,he said (the 9 year old) deserved MORE deductions.

I think you're secretly agreeing.

[The Napkin]

Daggett disagrees. On multiple occasions,he said (the 9 year old) deserved MORE deductions.

You need to read his post again.

[kartvelo]

Daggett disagrees. On multiple occasions,he said (the 9 year old) deserved MORE deductions.

That's what RSND said...

[kenneycb]

First of all, what the flying f*ck??? NO ONE beat Liukin. No one!!! In my world, that's first place. I can see the difficulty being a tiebreaker, but they had the same diff. score. How can anyone take this seriously (any more)? Why are these countries who don't know dingo doo doo about gymnastic judging?

Fake edit: BS tie breaker. Total BS. Take the bottom score out? WTF????
Secondly, around December 31st 2010, this Russian chick is going to be hot. Someone will want to fill her Ova with Semen!

Fake Edit 2: Give them hell, Bela

Fake Edit 3: F*ck Jacques Rogge and F*ck Fascist Juan Antonio Samaranch

Why don't you tell us how you really feel though?

I always thought the most logical step in deducting scores would be to take the high one out but that's just me.

And man was Liukin looking good with that pouty face the last 20 or so minutes.

[Ed Hillel]

Why don't you tell us how you really feel though?

I always thought the most logical step in deducting scores would be to take the high one out but that's just me.

They take the high one and the low one, and then after that I think they go highest remaining. Nastia's was 9.0 and He's was 8.9.

[sachmoney]

What a shocker, an Australian committing a crime.

Clever...I totally Lol'd

[kenneycb]

They take the high one and the low one, and then after that I think they go highest remaining. Nastia's was 9.0 and He's was 8.9.

I understand that I just don't feel it is as logical a step as taking the next high one off.

[phrenile]

They take the high one and the low one, and then after that I think they go highest remaining. Nastia's was 9.0 and He's was 8.9.

No, that's not what they do. It's by total deductions.

[Hendu's Gait]

That's what RSND said...

Thanks to all 3 of you. The Luikin in front of "He's", and I read it as "Her" It's getting late and the judging is pissing me off . . .

[shawnrbu]

If that Romanian guy was Chinese, he would have earned the Bronze for Vault.

[Hendu's Gait]

I understand that I just don't feel it is as logical a step as taking the next high one off.

they basically took the 2 highest and the 1 lowest off. (first the highest and lowest, tied again, then highest) Be consistent, Tie-breaker!

[Ed Hillel]

No, that's not what they do. It's by total deductions.

They just showed the procedure on TV. When they have the same execution score, as these two did, they go to the 7 individual scores from each judge and then remove the highest and lowest on each. So I guess that's the second tiebreaker. The third is to remove the next highest, which is what cost Nastia gold.

Edited by Ed Hillel, 18 August 2008 - 10:43 PM.

[Gehenna]

Infuriating - AGAIN. That gold medal winner was no older than 12, and I would bet a lot of money on that.

[Tony the Pony]

lol boo hoo, which is what cost Nastia gold.

Three mistakes is what cost her gold.

Infuriating - AGAIN. That gold medal winner was no older than 12, and I would bet a lot of money on that.

Look who's talking.

Edited by Tony the Pony, 18 August 2008 - 10:45 PM.

[gingerbreadmann]

They just showed the procedure on TV. When they have the same execution score, as these two did, they go to the 7 individual scores from each judge and then remove the highest and lowest on each. So I guess that's the second tiebreaker. The third is to remove the next highest, which is what cost Nastia gold.

I think they take out the highest and lowest execution score for everyone, if I heard correctly.

[Ed Hillel]

I think they take out the highest and lowest execution score for everyone, if I heard correctly.

Right, and after that they still had the same score. So they then removed the highest remaining of the 5.

Edited by Ed Hillel, 18 August 2008 - 11:00 PM.

[gingerbreadmann]

Right, and after that they still had the same score. So they then removed the highest remaining of the 5.

What I mean is I think she lost on the first tiebreaker, because to determine the execution score for every competitor they remove the highest and lowest. This is how they got tied in the first place. Then they take out the lowest remaining score for the tied competitors and if one has a higher average from the remaining 3, they win. I could be missing something, but that's how I understood it.

Edit: I think we're agreeing now, except they took out the lowest remaining of the 4 left.

Edited by gingerbreadmann, 18 August 2008 - 10:52 PM.

[dderemer]

Here where the scores, China than US
AUS POL NZL RSA BRA BUL
CHN 9.30 9.10 9.10 8.90 9.00 8.90
USA 9.00 9.30 9.00 8.80 9.00 9.10
Always drop the two highest and lowest, this is what's averaged for the score and added to the start value
CHN 9.10 9.10 8.90 9.00
USA 9.00 9.00 9.00 9.10
The first tie breaker is to then the drop the lowest, so normally its the 2nd-5th highest scores averaged. Now it's 2nd-4th highest.
CHN 9.10 9.10 9.00
USA 9.00 9.00 9.10

So Australia, South Africa, and New Zealand all favored the Asian.
Poland and Bulgaria favored the Russian-American. Even for Brazil.
Continental bias?

Edited by dderemer, 18 August 2008 - 10:55 PM.

[SydneySox]

No one said it was a conspiracy, I think it's incompetent judging myself.

Well, someone did say it was a conspiracy. Her dad did.

If you're qualified to think it's incompetent judging, I believe you. I wouldn't have a clue. When I watched it, I thought the midget looked the best, and she only came third. (edit: as TtP already said).

I can't tell if you're being facetious, or if, in fact, Australia has some irrational national loathing for one particular US gymnast.

I was two/thirds serious. We're fucking shattered Great Britain is going to beat us for the first time since we started taking the Olympics seriously. And we wanted to deny Phelps that last medal but we failed. That has more to do with desire for another gold medal we could use to tell the poms to get stuffed than any real hatred of your man-giant.

But no, we don't hate random American gymnasts. We suck at gymnastics, and therefore we don't care.

Edited by SydneySox, 18 August 2008 - 11:14 PM.

[SydneySox]

So Australia, South Africa, and New Zealand all favored the Asian.
Poland and Bulgaria favored the Russian-American. Even for Brazil.
Continental bias?

Where's the tie between Australia, South Africa and New Zealand?

[ngruz25]

White dudes that speak funny English, obviously.

[Hendu's Gait]

Where's the tie between Australia, South Africa and New Zealand?

Gondwana

[SydneySox]

White dudes that speak funny English, obviously.

You're right, those Kiwis and Saffys sure do sound ridiculous.

Edited by SydneySox, 18 August 2008 - 11:30 PM.

[Fred not Lynn]

I was two/thirds serious. We're fucking shattered Great Britain is going to beat us for the first time since we started taking the Olympics seriously.

They're taking the Olympics more seriously than you ae now, because theirs are coming up and yours were eight years ago. You realize they're going to destroy you in 4 years, don't you?

[ngruz25]

You're right, those Kiwis and Saffys sure do sound ridiculous.

Do you take everything seriously?

[SydneySox]

They're taking the Olympics more seriously than you ae now, because theirs are coming up and yours were eight years ago. You realize they're going to destroy you in 4 years, don't you?

No, because we're going to stop taking it seriously as soon as the mens field hockey is over and then it won't count from that point on.

[SydneySox]

Do you take everything seriously?

Um, no dude. Sorry if I was a little bit too subtle for you. Should I have added an emoticon?

[phrenile]

Where's the tie between Australia, South Africa and New Zealand?

Australia is one of China's biggest trading partners. New Zealand signed a free trade agreement in April. South Africa's in negotiations.

(Most everyone has some sort of trade agreement with China these days, though, so it's a weak conspiracy theory.)

[sachmoney]

Where's the tie between Australia, South Africa and New Zealand?

Obviously the US is the favorite of the former British colonies

Britain doesn't care for Australia, South Africa, or New Zealand.

(was NZ a former colony of Britain? I'm not so sure on that one).

Edited by sachmoney, 18 August 2008 - 11:45 PM.