The Red Sox ran Manny Ramirez's name past the Mets in the last 24 hours and were turned down flat, according to one source with knowledge of those discussions. So we can cancel that Manny Watch in Queens.
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Manny (again): *NEWS ONLY* thread
Posted 28 July 2008 - 05:09 PM
Posted 28 July 2008 - 05:13 PM
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Posted 28 July 2008 - 07:51 PM
Contrary to the denials that made the rounds Monday, officials from both teams say the Mets have contacted the Red Sox about Manny Ramirez and are interested in pursuing a deal for him if Boston decides to make him available.
The Red Sox suspect that GM Omar Minaya wants Ramirez more than Mets ownership does. Regardless, the Mets are reluctant to part with top-prospect talent in exchange for outfielders like Adam Dunn, Raul Ibanez and Randy Winn, but they (rightly) consider Ramirez a far superior hitter to those in that group, and they would discuss players in a Ramirez deal that they would not discuss in others. What remains to be seen is whether a Ramirez deal is too complicated to come together in time for the deadline.
Posted 28 July 2008 - 09:24 PM
And while rumors about Red Sox outfielder Manny Ramirez continue to swirl, interest in the slugger has been tepid, as several of the teams with the wherewithal to take on Ramirez's salary have privately said they weren't pursuing him.
Posted 28 July 2008 - 09:58 PM
SAN DIEGO -- It appears that Manny will not be Manny in a D-backs uniform.
The Providence Journal reported that the D-backs could be a landing spot for Manny Ramirez if the Red Sox decide to part with the outfielder, but an industry source with knowledge of the D-backs' thinking said it would be "highly unlikely" for him to wind up in Phoenix.
Posted 28 July 2008 - 10:53 PM
Although Manny Ramirez is in play, he won't give up his 10-and-5 rights to block a deal without assurances that the team won't exercise his options. The Red Sox won't give him that guarantee. The Phillies certainly discussed Ramirez, as did the Angels, but neither seems to have made an offer. The Red Sox would love to find the right deal and get rid of a headache, but they won't do it unless the team gets better. Remember that some salary flexibility should be included in that value equation, especially considering that the trade market is going to be much stronger than the free-agent market when we get to Las Vegas and the Winter Meetings in December.
Posted 29 July 2008 - 12:06 AM
SAN DIEGO - Do not look for Mark Teixeira or Manny Ramirez to become a Diamondback.
The Diamondbacks have been linked to both sluggers in recent published reports, but a major league source with knowledge of the situation said there is “no way” either will end up with the D-Backs before the July 31 nonwaiver trade deadline.
Posted 29 July 2008 - 01:43 AM
One report Monday linked the Diamondbacks to disgruntled Red Sox outfielder Manny Ramirez, speculating that a deal could be built around Jackson.
But the Diamondbacks are not interested in dealing Jackson, and a major-league source put the Diamondbacks' likelihood of acquiring Ramirez at "zero percent."
Connecting Ramirez to Arizona does have some credence, considering that the club's CEO, Jeff Moorad, is Ramirez's former agent and several of the club's baseball operations executives, including General Manager Josh Byrnes, came from Boston.
Posted 29 July 2008 - 12:34 PM
The Dodgers are one of a few teams to be showing interest in Manny Ramirez and are currently in discussions with Boston, SI.com has learned.
However the talks are said to be in the very early stages, and there are numerous complications and hurdles to clear for a deal with the Dodgers to get done. People familiar with the talks say it is too early to gauge the chances for a trade.
Dodgers owner Frank McCourt, a Bostonian, is believed to love the idea of adding Ramirez to bolster the Dodgers' mediocre offense. However, McCourt has been telling Dodgers people he doesn't want to add payroll during this trading season, and has been openly complaining about disappointing attendance and revenues.
Players likely to interest the Red Sox would likely include young outfielders Matt Kemp and perhaps Andre Ethier.
The other teams showing interest in Ramirez are not yet known.
Posted 29 July 2008 - 02:40 PM
The Red Sox and Dodgers are engaged in substantive talks involving Manny Ramirez, according to sources, and if a deal can be finalized the expectation is that Boston would push to the front of the line on obtaining Mark Teixeira from the Braves.
The Mets have continued to talk to the Red Sox without much possibility of finding a deal for Ramirez. The main track now involves the Dodgers. An executive who has spoken with officials from an involved team said it is his understanding that Boston would eat most, if not all, of the roughly $7 million left on Ramirez’s 2008 contract and in exchange would receive a top youngster such as Matt Kemp or Andre Ethier.
The Red Sox would then have another deal in place to obtain Teixeira, who like Ramirez is a Scott Boras client who can be a free agent at the end of the season. The Red Sox would view the overall switch-hitting offense/Gold Glove defense package of Teixeira combined with the removal of the Manny being Manny soap opera as a plus for this season. In addition, they would get an insider two-month look at Teixeira to determine if they want to make a strong, long-term bid on him or simply offset what they give up now to get him by getting two draft picks when he signs elsewhere this winter.
If they obtain Teixeira, the Red Sox could use current first baseman Kevin Youkilis either to replace Ramirez in left or as part of the trade for Teixeira.
But keep in mind that deals with the Dodgers are considered difficult for two reasons: 1) ownership has apparently refused to add any more money to the payroll and 2) there are chasms in the decision-making process. For example, sources say, the major league staff holds Ethier in much greater short- and long-term regard than Kemp. But the player development officials continue to believe that Kemp’s rough spots will be smoothed over the next few seasons allowing him to capitalize fully on his obvious tool shed of skills
Posted 30 July 2008 - 09:06 AM
One good source told me that he had heard that the Marlins were involved, willing to give up Jeremy Hermida and Boston-area product Jeff Allison, but I couldn't confirm this. I just don't see this deal getting done.
Posted 30 July 2008 - 11:41 PM
Edes update THU 31st
Posted 31 July 2008 - 08:53 AM
Talks between the Red Sox and the Marlins concerning Manny Ramirez gained momentum overnight and this morning but a baseball source with direct knowledge of the talks said this morning that the chances of a deal getting done were “less than 50-50.’’ Even though the source said the deal is “far from done,’’ the forward momentum suggests that there is still time before the 4 p.m. trading deadline for the Red Sox, Marlins and Pirates to work out a relatively complex three-team blockbuster that would send Ramirez to Florida, with the Marlins’ Jeremy Hermida going to Pittsburgh and the Red Sox receiving Pittsburgh outfielder Jason Bay as the replacement component in a Ramirez deal.
The Red Sox are believed to be willing to pay the approximately $7 million balance on Ramirez’ 2008 contract to Florida but the identities of the other prospects and players to be included in the deal remain fluid.
Indications remain that some key members of upper management of the Red Sox remain unconvinced that the team should deal Ramirez, who has made it clear he would like to be dealt.
The Red Sox hold a pair of $20 million options on Ramirez’ services for 2009 and 2010. They are not obligated to decide on the first option before early November.
At least one "key member of upper management" may be Henry, per the Globe.
The person most strongly opposed to trading Ramírez has been owner John W. Henry, who takes the position that the Sox cannot get sufficient value in return for him, and that Ramírez gives the team its best chance of winning. The team has been through these melodramas before with Ramírez - that's Henry's position - and in the end Ramírez's bat has had the last word.
Posted 31 July 2008 - 09:00 AM
Jayson Stark of ESPN.com quotes "an official" from one of the three teams involved in the rumored Manny Ramirez swap as saying that the odds of a deal are "50-50."
Stark reports that Marlins outfield prospect Mike Stanton is not in the trade "although Boston asked for him" and notes that despite previous indications John Grabow would actually be headed to Florida rather than Boston. Meanwhile, asked about a potential deal Thursday morning, Marlins owner Jeffrey Loria denied reports that a trade is already in place and said: "There's no news, nothing to talk about." Jul. 31 - 9:18 am et
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