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[ragecage]

Okay, decision time. We going with yahoo or going to adapt and I'll track (12 limit? 15 limit?)?

How about we do a 12 limit? Seems like a good middle ground huh?

funny, looking at that list, I am kind of surprised McMurray made it into the "A" list.

[ragecage]

Thought you guys may get a kick out of this. I recorded the 20 team's scanner conversations at Loudon a few years ago. I was just digging through my HD and found them. Tony has quite a mouth on him, so ah, NSFW.

download here

[Grunherz54]

RC - Sportscenter is running A Day With Tony Stewart on their 11 PM EST show tonight.

[FredLynnsGlove]

I know we're running out of time- but how about we go with yahoo?

One drawback of posting picks here is, you miss out on the element of surprise.

For example, if Nap and I are battling it out in the final few races for the title- and I'm in the lead and need to hold him off, I can see who he picks every week- and then match him pick for pick to hold the lead. Did I make sense with that?

[ragecage]

Grunherz -- thanks for the tip! I need to check that out. Very interesting how the press is suddenly portraying Stewart as the new leader, etc etc, after he safety comments. I don't think that was the intention, but still pretty cool.

I know we're running out of time- but how about we go with yahoo?

One drawback of posting picks here is, you miss out on the element of surprise.

For example, if Nap and I are battling it out in the final few races for the title- and I'm in the lead and need to hold him off, I can see who he picks every week- and then match him pick for pick to hold the lead. Did I make sense with that?

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

That's a great point. I hadn't thought of that, but makes complete sense. Let's just go with Yahoo straight up. That way it is all done for us, and we save Nap the extra work. If people are on board with this, here is the Yahoo league info I set up again:

Yahoo Fantasy Auto Racing
League ID: 24095
password: gordonsucks

I'm Smoke, and the dude "All The King's Men" is a buddy of mine (a Labonte fan)

[Grunherz54]

I'm in as Rides With Valkyries.

(love the password, BTW!)

[FredLynnsGlove]

Ride along with The Ricky Craven Experience

[Oecow]

I'm in as "One more Mark"

[Grunherz54]

Gatorade Duel #1

1st....Elliott Sadler
2nd...Carl Edwards
3rd....Dale Earnhardt, Jr.
8th....Tony Stewart

Engine change forced the 8 car to start in the back but he steadily worked his way to the front. 20 car looking strong again.

Rain delays before and during the first race.

[Grunherz54]

Gatorade Duel #2
1st.....Pepsi Guzzlin' Jeff Jeter
2nd....Bobby Labonte
3rd.....Jamie McMurray

[Spacemans Bong]

Wine Popularity Rises Among NASCAR Set
Wine-sipping yuppy NASCAR fans? Is nothing sacred?!

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I told you Sears Point was the slippery slope.

[Grunherz54]

Starting Grid for Daytona 500

Top 20:

1 Jeff Burton (31) Chevrolet 189.151 mph
2 Jeff Gordon (24) Chevrolet 188.877 mph
3 Elliott Sadler (38) Ford 188.810 mph
4 Kyle Busch (5) Chevrolet 187.570 mph
5 Carl Edwards (99) Ford 186.614 mph
6 Jamie McMurray (26) Ford 187.743 mph
7 Dale Earnhardt Jr. (8) Chevrolet 185.124 mph
8 Bobby Labonte (43) Dodge 187.935 mph
9 Jimmie Johnson (48) Chevrolet --
10 Mark Martin (6) Ford 186.436 mph
11 Matt Kenseth (17) Ford --
12 Kyle Petty (45) Dodge 184.794 mph
13 Kurt Busch (2) Dodge 187.539 mph
14 Casey Mears (42) Dodge 186.127 mph
15 Tony Stewart (20) Chevrolet 187.196 mph
16 Greg Biffle (16) Ford 186.672 mph
17 Denny Hamlin (11) Chevrolet 187.488 mph
18 Ryan Newman (12) Dodge 185.774 mph
19 Martin Truex Jr. (1) Chevrolet 185.242 mph
20 Robby Gordon (7) Chevrolet 186.850 mph

[HomeRunBaker]

Help Needed:

I know nothing about NASCAR but want to watch the race with a wager on the winner. Screw the name brands like Gordon and Earnhardt who provide little value......i am looking at guys such as:

Kurt Busch 20-1
Greg Biffle 15-1
Waltrip 35-1
Kenseth 20-1
Jarrett 25-1
or anyone who provides some bang for my buck.

Anyone have an angle on a particular racer for me? Reciprocation will be provided for advice that puts me on the winner.

[ragecage]

Help Needed:

I know nothing about NASCAR but want to watch the race with a wager on the winner.  Screw the name brands like Gordon and Earnhardt who provide little value......i am looking at guys such as:

Kurt Busch 20-1
Greg Biffle 15-1
Waltrip 35-1
Kenseth 20-1
Jarrett 25-1
or anyone who provides some bang for my buck.

Anyone have an angle on a particular racer for me?  Reciprocation will be provided for advice that puts me on the winner.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Kurt Busch - this is the first race with his new team. I don't think he gets it done.
Greg Biffle - good plate racer, finished really strong last year. Definitely has a shot at winning.
Michael Waltrip - I've said I don't think he will have a great year, but if there is a race he has a shot at winning, it may be here. He's done it before and people are willing to work with him.
Matt Kenseth - never sticks out as a great plate racer. More of a longshot.
Dale Jarrett - good plate racer. has won before, and could do it again (though personally I doubt it).

A few good dark horses may be a couple of the rookies: Denny Hamlin and Martin Truex Jr. Hamlin is coming off a win in the Bud Shootout, and Truex a Busch series championship. Both are in great equipment, and have experienced teammates that will help them out.

The tough thing about restrictor plate races is that anything can happen. There is always the threat of "the big one"--a huge crash that can easily take out 10-20 cars. People move around a lot in these races, and if one of the top contenders happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, they can be out of the race in a split second.

I'm not much of a gambler, so I don't know if that helps, but I hope it does.

[Grunherz54]

If I had to bet on that group I would go with either Biffle or Waltrip. I think Biffle is the 'safe' choice but I would put my money on Waltrip. He has won NASCAR's biggest race twice before and, after all the controversy surrounding DEI last year, I think Waltrip is highly motivated to win his third Daytona 500.

Edited by Grunherz54, 17 February 2006 - 01:30 PM.

[HomeRunBaker]

Kurt Busch - this is the first race with his new team.  I don't think he gets it done.
Greg Biffle - good plate racer, finished really strong last year.  Definitely has a shot at winning.
Michael Waltrip - I've said I don't think he will have a great year, but if there is a race he has a shot at winning, it may be here.  He's done it before and people are willing to work with him.
Matt Kenseth - never sticks out as a great plate racer.  More of a longshot.
Dale Jarrett - good plate racer.  has won before, and could do it again (though personally I doubt it).

A few good dark horses may be a couple of the rookies: Denny Hamlin and Martin Truex Jr.  Hamlin is coming off a win in the Bud Shootout, and Truex a Busch series championship.  Both are in great equipment, and have experienced teammates that will help them out.

The tough thing about restrictor plate races is that anything can happen.  There is always the threat of "the big one"--a huge crash that can easily take out 10-20 cars.  People move around a lot in these races, and if one of the top contenders happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, they can be out of the race in a split second.

I'm not much of a gambler, so I don't know if that helps, but I hope it does.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I am going with Biffle as my primary wager based on your comments and Grunherz' as well. With the price on Waltrip and the two noobs that you mentioned being so long i may place some peanuts money on them without taking much value away from Biffle.

Thanks guys.

[ragecage]

wow, what a Busch race! I'm sorry, not to ballwash Stewart all the time (it's going to be a looong season there ), but he is one hell of a plate racer. That pass at the end to take the lead was really exciting. Tomorrow should be GOOD!

[ragecage]

Today is the day.

[WallDenter]

McMurray and Gordon battle to the wire today.

[Grunherz54]

Boogity! Boogity!! Boogity!!! LET'S GO RACIN'!!!

[Grunherz54]

Gordon, Junior, and McMurray running strong on the outside so far.

[Grunherz54]

Stewart and Junior running together and get past 24 and 48

[Lanternjaw]

Mayfield got into Biffle but the 16 car looks to be fine... a lot of ground to make up but he seems to be moving well through the field now.

[Grunherz54]

Wow - Gordon and Stewart get tangled and both end up with wall damage.

[Grunherz54]

Pretty amazing that Petty/Edwards wreck wasn't worse.

Nice work by Stewart's crew. He's climbing back to the front despite the damage from his run-in with Gordo.

Edited by Grunherz54, 19 February 2006 - 04:07 PM.

[Grunherz54]

Jimmie Freakin' Johnson wins Daytona.

UGH.

Edit: Well, there's still that little matter of the post-race inspection

Edited by Grunherz54, 19 February 2006 - 06:23 PM.

[leithbones]

I'd like to thank Hendrick Motor Sports, Lowes, Goodyear, and Jesus.

[ragecage]

it would be an absolute riot if JJ failed post-race. Oh well. Interesting race all around. I would have preferred not to see the 48 win. Stewart was strong all day, but he needs to stay out of crap with other drivers. I still don't know what happened with Kenseth. I can't believe that he went that far out of his way to pay him back--he came really close to wrecking himself. I think maybe it was an aggressive block gone bad or something.

[FredLynnsGlove]

Very interesting race- the whole T-Stew/Kenseth deal will bear watching this year- that was pretty ugly...

#20 said post race that Kenseth started it- I missed that part, but his taking the 17 out later was pretty insane-right in a pack of cars- and Kenseth is lucky he didn't get slammed when he drifted back up the track....For all his talk about someone getting killed, the 20 almost did just that with that move- and even if he wanted payback that was the wrong time and place. He came across as a hypocrite and an asshole IMO.

How about JJ, this is for all the 48 haters, good stuff...

All in all, good race

[ragecage]

Stewart saying "he started it, I finished it" was plain dumb in my opinion, but that being said, I don't think he intended things to happen as they went down. He also said after the race that his spotter said that he was clear. I think that there is just no way that anyone, let alone someone with the car control of Stewart, pulls that move just to get someone back. He really almost wrecked himself--in addition to sending the 17 through the grass, his car got sideways and nearly wrecked as well. If these guys want to get someone back they can put a bumper to them pretty easily, but no one turns 90 degrees down onto someone at a plate track. Personally, I think that he knew the 17 was there and coming, and that he tried to throw a big block. Yes, he was pissed at him and didn't want him going by, but I don't think that it was as bad as intentional as it appears.

anyway, off to California. Speedweeks and Daytona are sort of a world unto themselves, so in a lot of ways the real season starts at California anyways. I hope a lot of this controversy gets settled by that point and doesn't drag out for the whole start of the season.

[FredLynnsGlove]

Personally, I think that he knew the 17 was there and coming, and that he tried to throw a big block.

I agree...

Yes, he was pissed at him and didn't want him going by, but I don't think that it was as bad as intentional as it appears.

I disagree...By going that low, and that hard after the 17, to me he was like "Fuck it- he messed with me and I'm gonna fix his ass regardless of what happens"

He talked the talk about someone getting killed this week- and he could have touched off a wreck that might have killed someone, how the hell the 17 didnt get hit coming up the track is amazing.....

Anyway, I think this lingers for a bit. So much for acting like a Champion- this puts the black hat back on the 20, and you know he and the 17 will tangle again before this season is over....

[ragecage]

I disagree...By going that low, and that hard after the 17, to me he was like "Fuck it- he messed with me and I'm gonna fix his ass regardless of what happens"

There are some drivers that say Robbie Gordon has as much, or more, talent than anyone else out there, but he makes decisions like this, and doesn't get very far. I may be wrong, but I don't think the "regardless of what happens" decision gets made by Stewart, nor most of these drivers. They are too good to have to resort to this most of the time. If they want payback, they can usually get it other ways.

He talked the talk about someone getting killed this week- and he could have touched off a wreck that might have killed someone, how the hell the 17 didnt get hit coming up the track is amazing.....

Anyway, I think this lingers for a bit.  So much for acting like a Champion- this puts the black hat back on the 20, and you know he and the 17 will tangle again before this season is over....

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I just got a chance to watch some of the additional interviews with Kenseth, Stewart and some of the Speed Channel guys. All parties seemed much calmer after having been out of the cars for a few minutes. My guess is that by the time they get to Cali, they say that they have talked, and it's all behind them. Of course, when they get together on the track, you know the Fox will have that clip cued up and ready to go as soon as they get near each other. It's like JJ and TS last year--they want to get this behind them. No one wants to start the season with this hanging over them.

and don't get me wrong, I think Stewart was driving aggressively, I just think that he tried to block him because he was pissed, not wreck him.

[Grunherz54]

A bit overlooked in all the Stewart/Kenseth and J-Lowes victory* news is the fact the Dale Jr. had another very strong showing.

I believe he lead more laps yesterday than he did in all the Nextel races last year combined. I just wish that he and Stewart (or Truex, for that matter) could have teamed up more.

Edited by Grunherz54, 20 February 2006 - 10:08 PM.

[FredLynnsGlove]

It's like JJ and TS last year--they want to get this behind them. No one wants to start the season with this hanging over them.

Probably right- how about Newman calling out JJ? Gonna be a fun trip to Cali....

A bit overlooked in all the Stewart/Kenseth and J-Lowes victory* news is the fact the Dale Jr. had another very strong showing

Junior did run well, but out front he had nothing when he needed it- too bad, I was pulling for him. Othere guys who looked good- everyones favorite J Gordon was right there despite his banged up car, and Kurt Busch had a good run going until he was wrecked by his old boss

And Stewart despite all his altercations, and being sent to the back twice?, was right there as well...

[ragecage]

I have to say, I am liking Newman more and more. He really doesn't hold back, and has an extremely dry sense of humor. Junior definitely looked good. When I think back on last year, I am shocked by how few laps he lead. I wish he and Tony had hooked up more too. And the more I think about it, I am surprised that Jr. got hung up on the outside and no one went with him. Yeah, he high line hadn't been moving, but it's DALE JR at a plate track, you'd think someone would have tried to go with him.

Edited by ragecage, 20 February 2006 - 10:46 PM.

[DieHardSoxFan1]

Just got back from the race today. It was cold as hell, and nobody ran with Dale JR. all day. I really think he could have won the thing if Truex stayed in contention.

Tony had his head in every incident on that racetrack, which made for great entertainment. Even after the blackflag and bump with Gordon, he managed to finish 5th. Impressive.

[Grunherz54]

Knaus suspended for three more races and fined $25,000. NASCAR also hanging Chad with probation for the rest of the year.


This suspension is dedicated to all the haters of the 48 team out there.

Edited by Grunherz54, 21 February 2006 - 04:48 PM.

[FredLynnsGlove]

I think the 48 team has to be pretty damn happy they weren't docked any points...

Anyone know what goes along with the suspension- I assume he has to stay away from the tracks, but how do they do that?

I know there were rumors that he was somewhere at Daytona calling the shots--and really, in this information age, scanners, cell phones, internet, text, blah-blah-blah--whats to stop him from calling the shots, or at least giving recomendations to the team from wherever he is on race day.

[ragecage]

I think the 48 team has to be pretty damn happy they weren't docked any points...

Anyone know what goes along with the suspension- I assume he has to stay away from the tracks, but how do they do that?

I know there were rumors that he was somewhere at Daytona calling the shots--and really, in this information age, scanners, cell phones, internet, text, blah-blah-blah--whats to stop him from calling the shots, or at least giving recomendations to the team from wherever he is on race day.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I think that they literally take his hard pass credentials, so that he cannot get into the track. But, yeah, of course a lot of this can be done remotely. I am sure they are in contact, but I don't think he is making every decision.

I think that big thing is that he is on probation for the rest of the season. Gray areas or not, Knaus stretches the rules. As Newman said, 3 of his last 4 victories have had some sort of rule "issue" that has gone along with them. They are going to need to be very by the book now ALL YEAR, so we'll see how that plays out. I don't think Knaus is too liked among his crew chief peers right now.

[ragecage]

Nemecheck leads first practice at California (his Mom must be so proud).

Stewart is 5th, so it's nice to see him fast off the truck. Qualifying starts in a few minutes.

[FredLynnsGlove]

Boogity-Boogity-Boogity

Good news for fans of Fox Sports' coverage of NASCAR's Nextel Cup series: Darrell Waltrip has agreed to a contract extension that will keep him on air as an analyst when the new TV rights contract begins in 2007.

Kurt Busch win the pole for the Auto Club 500- 1st pole since 2004. Biffle starts 2nd.

[ragecage]

The two JGR rookies in the Top 5 is pretty impressive too. I think Yeley breaks out at some point this year.

[Grunherz54]

Race Lineup for the Auto Club 500.

Edited by Grunherz54, 25 February 2006 - 01:03 AM.

[Grunherz54]

Buschwacker Biffle wins Stater Brothers 300. Newman 2nd and Edwards 3rd.

Edited by Grunherz54, 25 February 2006 - 10:01 PM.

[ragecage]

The whole Buschwacker thing is out of control. The ENTIRE Top 10 was Cup drivers!

[The Napkin]

For the record, Jewel is still hot. My God those breasts....

[ragecage]

For the record, Jewel is still hot. My God those breasts....

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

you took the words right out of my mouth. damn.

[ragecage]

that's a huge caution for the 20. Roush is having a good day huh?

[ragecage]

ugh. Not a good day for engines. Stewart loses an engine, and then Biffle who had the dominant car all day loses one too. 20 laps to go, I hope Kenseth can hold JJ off.

[ragecage]

NASCAR has selected Charlotte, NC as the future home of the NASCAR Hall Of Fame.

Link



After all the talk and rumors, does this really surprise anyone?