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The best "pitchers" signed from 1987-1996

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Posted 25 June 2008 - 09:33 PM

One of the quirky things that I noticed when I did my draft write ups two years ago is how highly Wakefield ranked in terms of career WARP production by “pitchers” drafted between 1987-1994. It was especially pronounced amongst the college pitchers in particular. So as I was compiling new data from the slightly longer 1987-1996 period, I always had it in the back of my mind to check how high up the ranks of college pitchers this failed 1B has risen.

We’ll look at both career and pre-FA WARP production for drafted pitchers (and a few infielders as well) from each of the three school types (HS, JC and C) and then look at all drafted pitchers together. Finally, I’ll add in the impressive international pitchers from this period as well so we can look at the entire spectrum of amateur pitchers signed by MLB teams in this ten year period.

I’ll use 50 pitchers as the cut off for HS and C and 20 for JC. That will take care of pretty much every good pitcher. Although this isn’t the 5 best pitchers in each draft class, the nice thing about looking at a 10 year period is that it is pretty easy to mentally divide by ten and get an idea about what we might have expected from each individual draft class.

College Pitchers – Ranked by Career WARP

Table
[td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]NC[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]23.0[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]27.9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]46[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1987[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]123[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Mil[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Steve Sparks[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]TX[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]22.6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]27.5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]47[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1989[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]14[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]371[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Minn[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Mike Trombley[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]NC[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]21.6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]27.5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]48[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1993[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]223[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Cle[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Steve Kline[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]WV[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]20.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]27.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]49[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1996[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Tor[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Billy Koch[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]SC[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]26.2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]26.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]50[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1990[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]14[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]362[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Phl[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Mike Williams[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]VA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]8.6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]25.5[/color] [/td]
Car Rank Year Rd Pick Team Name Position School State PreFA Career
1 1990 1 20 Bal Mike Musina RHP C CA 49.9 122.7
2 1989 11 288 Cinn Trevor Hoffman SS C AZ 36.3 80.6
3 1988 8 200 Pitt Tim Wakefield 1B C FL 29.3 69.9
4 1993 1 12 Hou Billy Wagner LHP C VA 35.4 66.6
5 1989 4 111 Minn Scott Erickson RHP C AZ 35.7 55.9
6 1987 5 127 Tor Mike Timlin RHP C TX 16.3 55.7
7 1990 2 44 Chi-AL Bob Wickman RHP C WI 22.9 55.5
8 1991 8 215 Chi-NL Steve Trachsel RHP C CA 24.0 55.0
9 1988 1 1 SD Andy Benes RHP C IL 30.6 54.3
10 1987 1 5 Chi-AL Jack McDowell RHP C CA 40.3 53.7
11 1988 28 732 Tor Woody Williams RHP C TX 21.1 53.5
12 1988 1 17 Cle Charles Nagy RHP C CT 36.8 53.2
13 1989 1s 27 Hou Todd Jones RHP C FL 23.5 51.0
14 1990 6 175 Ana Troy Percival C C CA 28.9 50.9
15 1991 1 23 Bos Aaron Sele RHP C WA 30.7 49.3
16 1992 2 44 KC Jon Lieber RHP C AL 24.1 48.4
17 1994 9 256 SF Keith Foulke RHP C ID 36.2 47.1
18 1989 3 85 Minn Denny Neagle LHP C MN 25.9 46.3
19 1988 1 4 Bal Gregg Olson RHP C AL 29.3 43.0
20 1989 6 161 Bos Paul Quantrill RHP C WI 22.4 42.2
21 1987 2 33 Sea David Burba RHP C OH 21.1 42.2
22 1995 2 31 Ana Jarrod Washburn LHP C WI 32.7 41.6
23 1995 1 12 StL Matt Morris RHP C NJ 25.5 41.5
24 1989 3 72 Hou Shane Reynolds RHP C TX 32.2 40.9
25 1989 1 1 Bal Ben McDonald RHP C LA 27.9 38.6
26 1995 6 159 SF Joe Nathan RHP C NY 38.3 38.5
27 1992 1 22 Tex Rick Helling RHP C CA 29.0 38.2
28 1988 1 8 Ana Jim Abbott LHP C MI 31.0 37.7
29 1987 1s 27 Bal Pete Harnisch RHP C NY 20.7 36.1
30 1991 18 477 Mon Kirk Rueter LHP C KY 21.5 35.6
31 1995 4 103 SF Russ Ortiz RHP C OK 34.7 34.8
32 1989 1 17 Mil Cal Eldred RHP C IA 25.5 34.7
33 1996 1 20 NYY Eric Milton LHP C MD 24.8 32.0
34 1991 4 112 Cle Paul Byrd RHP C LA 18.1 31.7
35 1994 1 3 SD Dustin Hermanson RHP C OH 21.4 31.0
36 1994 4 101 Cle Danny Graves RHP C FL 28.8 30.8
37 1994 5 144 SF Bobby Howry RHP C LA 21.4 30.4
38 1989 8 201 Cle Curtis Leskanic RHP C LA 22.6 30.3
39 1987 1 16 SF Mike Remlinger LHP C NH 19.9 30.2
40 1993 1 3 Ana Brian Anderson LHP C OH 19.8 29.9
41 1989 20 518 SD Tim Worrell RHP C CA 14.4 29.2
42 1987 7 165 Minn Mark Guthrie LHP C LA 14.1 29.1
43 1995 2 54 Cinn Brett Tomko RHP C FL 18.3 28.8
44 1996 1 3 StL Braden Looper RHP C KS 19.2 28.3
45 1993 6 165 Det Brian Moehler


The first thing that jumps out is the extent that Mussina dominates this era of college pitching. His 120+ WARP career (btw, all totals are through 2007 so this does not include his resurgent first half of 2008) more than doubles the next group of college starters (Erickson, Trachsel, Benes, McDowell, et al) who topped out in the mid-50s.

Wakefied, the 8th rd 1B from noted college powerhouse Florida Tech College, ranks a rather remarkable 3rd and far ahead of every collegiate starter drafted in this ten year period except for Mussina.

Perhaps the only thing more astounding than Wakefield’s 3rd place ranking is Trevor Hoffman’s 2nd place ranking. Although I suspect that Mussina will end his career with the statistical performance to merit Hall of Fame enshrinement, I think there’s a good chance that he will not make it. That could leave a shortstop drafted in the 11th rd as the only college “pitcher” in this ten year period to make the Hall of Fame.

Interestingly, Hoffman is just one of many pitchers who were used exclusively as relievers who rank very highly. However, a couple – notably Mike Timlin at #6 – rank highly based on a freakishly long career, but one without much of a peak and certainly not a big pre-FA peak. So let’s look at these pitchers re-sorted by pre-FA WARP production. This will give us a cleaner look at the level of production these pitchers provided to the teams that drafted them (assuming the pitchers weren’t lost on waivers like Wakefield, for example).

College Pitchers – Ranked by Pre-FA WARP

Table
[td=*][color="#000000"]Pre-FA Rank[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Car Rank[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Year[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Rd[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Pick[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Team[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Name[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Position[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]School[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]State[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]PreFA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Career[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1990[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]20[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Bal[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Mike Musina [/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]49.9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]122.7[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]10[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1987[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Chi-AL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Jack McDowell[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]40.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]53.7[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]26[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1995[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]159[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]SF[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Joe Nathan[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]NY[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]38.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]38.5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]12[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1988[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]17[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Cle[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Charles Nagy[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CT[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]36.8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]53.2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1989[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]11[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]288[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Cinn[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Trevor Hoffman[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]SS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]AZ[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]36.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]80.6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]17[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1994[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]256[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]SF[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Keith Foulke[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]ID[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]36.2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]47.1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]7[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1989[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]111[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Minn[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Scott Erickson[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]AZ[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]35.7[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]55.9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1993[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]12[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Hou[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Billy Wagner[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]VA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]35.4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]66.6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]31[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1995[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]103[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]SF[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Russ Ortiz[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]OK[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]34.7[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]34.8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]10[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]22[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1995[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]31[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Ana[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Jarrod Washburn[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]WI[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]32.7[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]41.6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]11[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]24[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1989[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]72[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Hou[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Shane Reynolds[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]TX[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]32.2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]40.9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]12[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]28[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1988[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Ana[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Jim Abbott[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]MI[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]31.0[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]37.7[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]13[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]15[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1991[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]23[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Bos[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Aaron Sele[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]WA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]30.7[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]49.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]14[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1988[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]SD[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Andy Benes[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]IL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]30.6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]54.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]15[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1988[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]200[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Pitt[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Tim Wakefield[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1B[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]FL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]29.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]69.9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]16[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]19[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1988[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Bal[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Gregg Olson[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]AL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]29.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]43.0[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]17[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]27[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1992[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]22[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Tex[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Rick Helling[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]29.0[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]38.2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]18[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]14[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1990[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]175[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Ana[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Troy Percival[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]28.9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]50.9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]19[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]36[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1994[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]101[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Cle[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Danny Graves[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]FL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]28.8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]30.8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]20[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]25[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1989[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Bal[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Ben McDonald[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]27.9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]38.6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]21[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]49[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1996[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Tor[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Billy Koch[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]SC[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]26.2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]26.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]22[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]18[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1989[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]85[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Minn[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Denny Neagle[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]MN[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]25.9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]46.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]23[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]23[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1995[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]12[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]StL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Matt Morris[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]NJ[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]25.5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]41.5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]24[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]32[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1989[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]17[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Mil[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Cal Eldred[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]IA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]25.5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]34.7[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]25[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]33[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1996[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]20[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]NYY[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Eric Milton[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]MD[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]24.8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]32.0[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]26[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]16[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1992[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]44[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]KC[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Jon Lieber [/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]AL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]24.1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]48.4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]27[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1991[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]215[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Chi-NL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Steve Trachsel[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]24.0[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]55.0[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]28[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]13[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1989[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1s[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]27[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Hou[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Todd Jones[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]FL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]23.5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]51.0[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]29[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]45[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1993[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]165[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Det[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Brian Moehler[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]NC[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]23.0[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]27.9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]30[/color] [/td][td=*] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1995[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]13[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Minn[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Mark Redman[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]OK[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]23.0[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]25.1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]31[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]7[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1990[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]44[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Chi-AL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Bob Wickman[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]WI[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]22.9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]55.5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]32[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]38[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1989[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]201[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Cle[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Curtis Leskanic[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]22.6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]30.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]33[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]46[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1987[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]123[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Mil[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Steve Sparks[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]TX[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]22.6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]27.5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]34[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]20[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1989[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]161[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Bos[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Paul Quantrill[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]WI[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]22.4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]42.2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]35[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]47[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1989[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]14[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]371[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Minn[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Mike Trombley[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]NC[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]21.6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]27.5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]36[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]30[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1991[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]18[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]477[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Mon[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Kirk Rueter[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C [/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]KY[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]21.5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]35.6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]37[/color] [/td][td=*] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1987[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]230[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]SF[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Gil Heredia[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]AZ[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]21.5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]22.5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]38[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]35[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1994[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]SD[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Dustin Hermanson[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]OH[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]21.4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]31.0[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]39[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]37[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1994[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]144[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]SF[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Bobby Howry[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]21.4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]30.4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]40[/color] [/td][td=*] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1988[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]7[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]163[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Cle[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Greg McMichael[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]TN[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]21.4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]22.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]41[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]11[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1988[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]28[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]732[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Tor[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Woody Williams[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]TX[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]21.1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]53.5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]42[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]21[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1987[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]33[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Sea[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]David Burba[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]OH[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]21.1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]42.2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]43[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]29[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1987[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1s[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]27[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Bal[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Pete Harnisch[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]NY[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]20.7[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]36.1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]44[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]48[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1993[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]223[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Cle[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Steve Kline[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]WV[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]20.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]27.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]45[/color] [/td][td=*] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1991[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]SD[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Joey Hamilton [/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]GA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]20.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]24.4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]46[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]39[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1987[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]16[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]SF[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Mike Remlinger[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]NH[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]19.9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]30.2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]47[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]40[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1993[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Ana[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Brian Anderson[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]OH[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]19.8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]29.9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]48[/color] [/td][td=*] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1989[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]15[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]386[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]SF[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Patrick Rapp[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]MS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]19.4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]24.6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]49[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]44[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1996[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]StL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Braden Looper[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]KS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]19.2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]28.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]50[/color] [/td][td=*] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1992[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]164[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Mil[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Scott Karl[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HI[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]19.0[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]19.0[/color] [/td]


Mussina still dominates although with just six years the gap is much smaller. He only topped the next highest starter by 25% instead of more than 100%.

Wakefield is more of a long-term accumulator than a high peak performer so he drops quite a bit in the rankings from 3rd to a still impressive 15th. In a nice coincidence, Wakefield, the 200th player selected in the 1988, slides just behind Andy Benes who was the first overall selection in that same draft. I suppose that’s a pretty good testament to how random the baseball draft can be. And Benes’s career is a relatively good one for the #1 overall selection. Earlier in the spring when Aaron Crow was seen as a more viable candidate to go #1 there was speculation about whether or not he really had the ceiling to merit the top spot. Benes’s good, not great career is a pretty good benchmark for the minimum a college pitcher drafted #1 overall needs to achieve to have merited being the top pick. Depending on your point of view, “being as good as Benes” may not seem like that high of a standard, but as you see here Benes was the 9th most productive pitcher in this 10 year period in terms of career production and 14th most productive in terms of pre-FA production. It’s not a trivial thing to project any college pitcher to be that good.

Over the last few years college relievers have become much more common place in the first round. Teams that chose college relievers early are generally believed to be looking for players who will sign for lower bonuses and provide a quick return on the pick. The downside is the opportunity cost of not being able to use that 1st round pick on a potential high quality starter or a position player. This period prior to that surge in early round college relievers provides some good news and some bad news with respect to the decision to use precious 1st round picks on college relievers. The good news is that Nathan, Hoffman, Foulke, Wagner, Olson, Percival, Graves and Koch rank 3rd, 5th, 6th, 8th, 16th, 18, 19th and 21st amongst all college pitchers. That’s quite surprising to me and at least suggests that an elite college trained reliever can be every bit as valuable as a good college starter. That may be more of an indictment of the college starters, but it is still impressive. The bad news is that these elite relievers were drafted in the 6th, 11th, 9th, 1st, 1st, 6th, 4th and 1st rounds. And that’s ignoring the fact that two were drafted as position players. So while Wagner, Olson and Koch are all examples of 1st round picks who became very productive MLB relievers, is it really worth passing on the entire position player draft pool in the 1st round when you might luck into an elite reliever much later?

Or to put it in convenient Red Sox terms, better to draft Papelbon in the 4th than Hansen in the 1st.

The other pair of names that caught my eye was Russ Ortiz and Jarrod Washburn. Both became examples of mediocre veteran free agents who were wildly overpaid in the free agent market, but each started his career as a very valuable pre-FA pitcher with Ortiz and Washburn ranking 9th and 10th in terms of pre-FA production. As useless and wasteful as they became post-FA, they were just as valuable pre-FA. These pitchers are powerful examples of the value of developing pitching and then letting other teams pay for their post-FA years.

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Posted 25 June 2008 - 09:37 PM

Junior College Pitchers – Ranked by Career WARP

Table
Car Rank Year Rd Pick Team Name Position School State PreFA Career
1 1987 1 9 KC Kevin Appier RHP JC CA 47.1 85.0
2 1996 23 684 Hou Roy Oswalt RHP JC MS 54.2 54.2
3 1990 1 4 Chi-AL Alex Fernandez RHP CC FL 38.8 52.3
4 1987 30 773 Hou Darryl Kile RHP CC CA 21.5 45.7
5 1991 44 1156 NYM Jason Isringhausen RHP JC IL 17.2 45.2
6 1990 21 553 Minn Ed Guardado LHP CC CA 16.7 42.1
7 1987 13 324 Atl Mike Stanton LHP CC TX 9.6 41.7
8 1988 3 82 Tor David Weathers RHP CC TN 6.1 35.5
9 1996 10 293 Tex Doug Davis LHP CC CA 32.1 32.1
10 1988 6 158 StL Rheal Cormier LHP CC RI 14.6 31.9
11 1996 23 688 LA Ted Lilly LHP CC CA 24.2 30.3
12 1987 3 71 Mil Jaime Navarro RHP CC FL 24.4 29.8
13 1993 7 212 Col John Thomson RHP JC TX 20.3 28.1
14 1990 15 390 Pitt Rick White RHP JC KY 17.3 22.6
15 1992 23 642 Sea Ryan Franklin RHP JC OK 18.3 21.7
16 1994 12 331 KC Jose Rosado LHP JC TX 21.3 21.3
17 1995 25 678 Sea Brian Fuentes LHP JC CA 21.1 21.0
18 1988 9 236 StL Mark Clark RHP CC IL 20.4 19.9
19 1990 36 934 Chi-AL Jason Bere RHP CC MA 10.4 18.5
20 1996 56 1559 Cle David Riske RHP CC WA 14.5 18.1


This was an unusual period for JC pitchers. It’s very rare for a JC pitcher to be drafted in the first round and as it happened this period produced two very successful JC 1st rd pitchers. I’m not sure why Appier ended up going the JC route. He doesn’t appear to have been drafted out of HS so perhaps he was just a late bloomer or something. Fernandez was a 1st rd pick out of HS and went the JC route for financial reasons. Oswalt was a draft and follow although I don’t believe he received a huge bonus. I have seen Kile referred to as one of the first – if not the first – big money DFEs. Behind that quartet is a mix of mid-rotation starters and solid relievers.



Junior College Pitchers – Ranked by Pre-FA WARP

Table
Pre-FA Rank Car Rank Year Rd Pick Team Name Position School State PreFA Career
1 2 1996 23 684 Hou Roy Oswalt RHP JC MS 54.2 54.2
2 1 1987 1 9 KC Kevin Appier RHP JC CA 47.1 85.0
3 3 1990 1 4 Chi-AL Alex Fernandez RHP CC FL 38.8 52.3
4 9 1996 10 293 Tex Doug Davis LHP CC CA 32.1 32.1
5 12 1987 3 71 Mil Jaime Navarro RHP CC FL 24.4 29.8
6 11 1996 23 688 LA Ted Lilly LHP CC CA 24.2 30.3
7 4 1987 30 773 Hou Darryl Kile RHP CC CA 21.5 45.7
8 16 1994 12 331 KC Jose Rosado LHP JC TX 21.3 21.3
9 17 1995 25 678 Sea Brian Fuentes LHP JC CA 21.1 21.0
10 18 1988 9 236 StL Mark Clark RHP CC IL 20.4 19.9
11 13 1993 7 212 Col John Thomson RHP JC TX 20.3 28.1
12 15 1992 23 642 Sea Ryan Franklin RHP JC OK 18.3 21.7
13 1991 20 528 Cle Albie Lopez RHP CC AZ 17.7 17.0
14 14 1990 15 390 Pitt Rick White RHP JC KY 17.3 22.6
15 5 1991 44 1156 NYM Jason Isringhausen RHP JC IL 17.2 45.2
16 6 1990 21 553 Minn Ed Guardado LHP CC CA 16.7 42.1
17 1992 14 403 Col Juan Acevedo RHP CC IL 16.5 16.7
18 10 1988 6 158 StL Rheal Cormier LHP CC RI 14.6 31.9
19 20 1996 56 1559 Cle David Riske RHP CC WA 14.5 18.1
20 1996 34 1024 TB Daniel Wheeler RHP JC AZ 14.1 14.1


There isn’t much difference in this table although Oswalt’s pre-FA production jumps out. It’s extremely rare for even the best position players to exceed 50 WARP pre-FA. Oswalt was great and very durable in these years, but he also benefited – or more accurately the Astros really benefited – from the fact that he debuted in early May. As a result he pitched 6 and 5/6th years (and over 1400 innings) prior to achieving enough service time to gain free agency rights.

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Posted 25 June 2008 - 09:40 PM

High School Pitchers – Ranked by Career WARP

Table
[td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]14.6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]17.9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]46[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1991[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]25[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]656[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Sea[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Matt Mantei[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]MI[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]18.1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]17.4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]47[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1996[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1s[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]35[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Atl[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Jason Marquis[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]NY[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]14.4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]17.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]48[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1987[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]15[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]389[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Cinn[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Butch Henry[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]TX[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]16.2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]16.9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]49[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1991[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]7[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]186[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Bal[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Jimmy Haynes[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]GA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]17.4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]16.8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]50[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1993[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]18[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]516[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Atl[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]John Rocker[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]GA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]16.4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]16.5[/color] [/td]
Car Rank Year Rd Pick Team Name Position School State PreFA Career
1 1990 22 577 NYY Andrew Pettitte LHP HS TX 40.8 83.7
2 1991 8 206 Minn Brad Radke RHP HS FL 43.9 76.6
3 1991 8 214 Sea Derek Lowe RHP HS MI 44.0 64.1
4 1994 5 140 Mon Javier Vasquez RHP HS PR 40.7 60.8
5 1990 6 157 Sea Mike Hampton LHP HS FL 29.1 56.5
6 1995 1 17 Tor Roy Halladay RHP HS CO 40.1 55.6
7 1987 32 822 Tex Robb Nen RHP HS CA 31.6 52.4
8 1993 11 320 Atl Kevin Millwood RHP HS NC 31.0 48.4
9 1991 8 205 Atl Jason Schmidt RHP HS WA 16.4 46.1
10 1993 2 49 Bos Jeff Suppan RHP HS CA 28.5 44.1
11 1993 1 15 Tor Chris Carpenter RHP HS NH 19.3 39.0
12 1995 1 4 Chi-NL Kerry Wood RHP HS TX 35.2 37.9
13 1988 2 34 Bal Arthur Rhodes LHP HS TX 12.6 37.3
14 1988 3 63 Tex Darren Oliver LHP HS CA 22.4 35.2
15 1996 5 155 AZ Brad Penny RHP HS OK 21.1 34.9
16 1991 7 180 Minn LaTroy Hawkins RHP HS IN 16.6 34.9
17 1988 1 3 Atl Steve Avery LHP HS MI 28.4 33.2
18 1995 8 217 NYM A.J. Burnett RHP HS AR 21.9 31.4
19 1991 1 11 Sea Shawn Estes LHP HS NV 21.1 29.2
20 1993 3 86 SD Matt Clement RHP HS PA 23.2 28.7
21 1987 6 140 Chi-NL Frank Castillo RHP HS TX 12.7 28.7
22 1996 1 21 Col Jake Westbrook RHP HS GA 28.1 28.1
23 1995 3 69 Pitt Bronson Arroyo RHP HS FL 26.4 26.5
24 1996 29 862 Chi-NL Kyle Lohse RHP HS CA 26.2 26.3
25 1991 4 111 Chi-NL Terry Adams RHP HS AL 19.6 26.1
26 1990 4 103 Chi-AL James Baldwin RHP HS NC 22.7 25.5
27 1996 20 594 Hou Wade Miller RHP HS PA 24.7 25.0
28 1988 8 190 Atl Mark Wohlers RHP HS MA 21.7 24.8
29 1993 1 28 Col Jamey Wright RHP HS OK 17.4 24.4
30 1990 1 22 Tor Steve Karsay RHP HS NY 19.1 24.3
31 1995 3 66 Tex Ryan Dempster RHP HS CAN 12.7 24.3
32 1996 1 22 Sea Gil Meche RHP HS LA 16.9 23.7
33 1994 13 355 Bos Carl Pavano RHP HS CT 22.4 23.3
34 1994 6 161 Sea Joe Mays RHP HS FL 22.6 22.6
35 1993 17 469 KC Glendon Rusch LHP HS WA 15.8 22.6
36 1989 9 231 NYY Sterling Hitchcock LHP HS FL 19.0 21.9
37 1991 1s 32 Det Justin Thompson LHP HS TX 21.5 21.4
38 1987 2 56 NYM Pete Schourek LHP HS VA 13.4 21.4
39 1989 32 821 Chi-AL Joseph Borowski RHP HS NJ 16.9 20.3
40 1989 5 123 Cle Alan Embree LHP HS WA 7.8 20.3
41 1996 1 11 Phl Adam Eaton RHP HS WA 18.5 19.2
42 1996 3 86 Col Shawn Chacon RHP HS CO 18.9 19.0
43 1990 1s 28 Mon Gabe White LHP HS FL 16.6 18.8
44 1994 47 1290 Chi-NL Kyle Farnsworth RHP HS GA 14.5 18.0
45 1994 1 10 Cle Jaret Wright


Pettitte spent a year in JC as a draft and follow, but since he was only draft eligible as a HS player, I count him with the HS pitchers for draft purposes.

There isn’t a single a pitcher who dominates the HS ranks the way that Mussina dominated the college ranks, but there are more quality starting pitchers in the 60+ WARP range. Halladay and perhaps Hampton are the only pitchers who were considered “aces” although several other pitchers won 20 games and were very good pitchers in their primes if not quite what people consider as “aces”.

The other thing to note is that many of the very best HS pitchers from these drafts were mid and late round picks.

High School Pitchers – Ranked by Pre-FA WARP

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[td=*][color="#000000"]Pre-FA Rank[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Car Rank[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Year[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Rd[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Pick[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Team[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Name[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Position[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]School[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]State[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]PreFA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Career[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1991[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]214[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Sea[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Derek Lowe[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]MI[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]44.0[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]64.1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1991[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]206[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Minn[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Brad Radke[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]FL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]43.9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]76.6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1990[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]22[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]577[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]NYY[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Andrew Pettitte[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]TX[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]40.8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]83.7[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1994[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]140[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Mon[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Javier Vasquez[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]PR[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]40.7[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]60.8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1995[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]17[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Tor[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Roy Halladay[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CO[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]40.1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]55.6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]12[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1995[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Chi-NL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Kerry Wood[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]TX[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]35.2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]37.9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]7[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]7[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1987[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]32[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]822[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Tex[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Robb Nen[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]31.6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]52.4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1993[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]11[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]320[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Atl[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Kevin Millwood[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]NC[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]31.0[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]48.4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1990[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]157[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Sea[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Mike Hampton[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]FL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]29.1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]56.5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]10[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]10[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1993[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]49[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Bos[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Jeff Suppan[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]28.5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]44.1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]11[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]17[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1988[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Atl[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Steve Avery[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]MI[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]28.4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]33.2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]12[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]22[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1996[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]21[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Col[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Jake Westbrook[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]GA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]28.1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]28.1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]13[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]23[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1995[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]69[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Pitt[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Bronson Arroyo[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]FL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]26.4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]26.5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]14[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]24[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1996[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]29[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]862[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Chi-NL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Kyle Lohse[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]26.2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]26.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]15[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]27[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1996[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]20[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]594[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Hou[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Wade Miller[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]PA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]24.7[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]25.0[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]16[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]20[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1993[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]86[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]SD[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Matt Clement[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]PA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]23.2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]28.7[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]17[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]26[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1990[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]103[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Chi-AL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]James Baldwin[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]NC[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]22.7[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]25.5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]18[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]34[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1994[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]161[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Sea[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Joe Mays[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]FL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]22.6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]22.6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]19[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]14[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1988[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]63[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Tex[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Darren Oliver[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]22.4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]35.2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]20[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]33[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1994[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]13[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]355[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Bos[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Carl Pavano[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CT[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]22.4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]23.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]21[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]18[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1995[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]217[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]NYM[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]A.J. Burnett[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]AR[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]21.9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]31.4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]22[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]28[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1988[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]190[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Atl[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Mark Wohlers[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]MA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]21.7[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]24.8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]23[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]37[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1991[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1s[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]32[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Det[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Justin Thompson[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]TX[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]21.5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]21.4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]24[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]15[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1996[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]155[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]AZ[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Brad Penny[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]OK[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]21.1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]34.9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]25[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]19[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1991[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]11[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Sea[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Shawn Estes[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]NV[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]21.1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]29.2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]26[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]25[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1991[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]111[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Chi-NL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Terry Adams[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]AL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]19.6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]26.1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]27[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]11[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1993[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]15[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Tor[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Chris Carpenter[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]NH[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]19.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]39.0[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]28[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]30[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1990[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]22[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Tor[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Steve Karsay[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]NY[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]19.1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]24.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]29[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]36[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1989[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]231[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]NYY[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Sterling Hitchcock[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]FL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]19.0[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]21.9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]30[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]42[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1996[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]86[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Col[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Shawn Chacon[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CO[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]18.9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]19.0[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]31[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]41[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1996[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]11[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Phl[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Adam Eaton[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]WA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]18.5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]19.2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]32[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]46[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1991[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]25[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]656[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Sea[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Matt Mantei[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]MI[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]18.1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]17.4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]33[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]29[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1993[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]28[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Col[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Jamey Wright[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]OK[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]17.4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]24.4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]34[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]49[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1991[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]7[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]186[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Bal[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Jimmy Haynes[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]GA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]17.4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]16.8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]35[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]32[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1996[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]22[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Sea[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Gil Meche[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]16.9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]23.7[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]36[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]39[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1989[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]32[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]821[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Chi-AL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Joseph Borowski[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]NJ[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]16.9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]20.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]37[/color] [/td][td=*] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1990[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]12[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Minn[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Todd Ritchie[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]TX[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]16.7[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]16.4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]38[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]16[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1991[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]7[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]180[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Minn[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LaTroy Hawkins[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]IN[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]16.6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]34.9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]39[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]43[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1990[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1s[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]28[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Mon[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Gabe White[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]FL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]16.6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]18.8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]40[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1991[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]205[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Atl[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Jason Schmidt[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]WA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]16.4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]46.1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]41[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]50[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1993[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]18[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]516[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Atl[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]John Rocker[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]GA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]16.4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]16.5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]42[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]48[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1987[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]15[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]389[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Cinn[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Butch Henry[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]TX[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]16.2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]16.9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]43[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]35[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1993[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]17[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]469[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]KC[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Glendon Rusch[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]WA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]15.8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]22.6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]44[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]45[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1994[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]10[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Cle[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Jaret Wright[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]14.6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]17.9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]45[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]44[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1994[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]47[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1290[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Chi-NL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Kyle Farnsworth[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]GA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]14.5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]18.0[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]46[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]47[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1996[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1s[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]35[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Atl[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Jason Marquis[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]NY[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]14.4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]17.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]47[/color] [/td][td=*] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1996[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1s[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]34[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Bos[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Chris Reitsma[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CAN[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]13.9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]13.8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]48[/color] [/td][td=*] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1996[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]241[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Bos[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Justin Duchscherer[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]TX[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]13.6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]13.7[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]49[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]38[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1987[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]56[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]NYM[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Pete Schourek[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]VA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]13.4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]21.4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]50[/color] [/td][td=*] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1989[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]47[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1197[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Tex[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Dan Patterson[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]13.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]14.7[/color] [/td]


A pair of very durable 8th round picks from 1991 lead the pack in terms of pre-FA production and another trio cleared 40 WARP. Only two college pitchers cleared that level. It is generally true that college players will make the majors quicker and may have easier (and therefore more productive) transitions to the majors, but it’s always important to keep in mind that all highly successful draft picks are exceptions to some rule and very good HS players can be just as productive early in their careers as college players.

Next we’ll re-combine these three school types into one pair of tables and look at all drafted pitchers together.

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Posted 25 June 2008 - 09:43 PM

All Drafted Pitchers – Ranked by Career WARP

Table
[td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]TX[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]35.2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]37.9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]47[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1988[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Ana[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Jim Abbott[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]MI[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]31.0[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]37.7[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]48[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1988[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]34[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Bal[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Arthur Rhodes[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]TX[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]12.6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]37.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]49[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1987[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1s[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]27[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Bal[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Pete Harnisch[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]NY[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]20.7[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]36.1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]50[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1991[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]18[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]477[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Mon[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Kirk Rueter[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C [/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]KY[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]21.5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]35.6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]52[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1988[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]63[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Tex[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Darren Oliver[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]22.4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]35.2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]53[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1996[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]155[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]AZ[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Brad Penny[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]OK[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]21.1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]34.9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]54[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1991[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]7[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]180[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Minn[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LaTroy Hawkins[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]IN[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]16.6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]34.9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]55[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1995[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]103[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]SF[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Russ Ortiz[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]OK[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]34.7[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]34.8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]56[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1989[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]17[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Mil[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Cal Eldred[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]IA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]25.5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]34.7[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]57[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1988[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Atl[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Steve Avery[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]MI[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]28.4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]33.2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]58[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1996[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]10[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]293[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Tex[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Doug Davis[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CC[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]32.1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]32.1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]59[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1996[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]20[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]NYY[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Eric Milton[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]MD[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]24.8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]32.0[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]60[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1988[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]158[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]StL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Rheal Cormier[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CC[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RI[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]14.6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]31.9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]61[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1991[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]112[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Cle[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Paul Byrd[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]18.1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]31.7[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]62[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1995[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]217[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]NYM[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]A.J. Burnett[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]AR[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]21.9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]31.4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]63[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1994[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]SD[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Dustin Hermanson[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]OH[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]21.4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]31.0[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]64[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1994[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]101[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Cle[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Danny Graves[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]FL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]28.8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]30.8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]65[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1994[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]144[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]SF[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Bobby Howry[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]21.4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]30.4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]66[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1989[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]201[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Cle[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Curtis Leskanic[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]22.6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]30.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]67[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1996[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]23[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]688[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Ted Lilly[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CC[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]24.2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]30.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]68[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1987[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]16[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]SF[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Mike Remlinger[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]NH[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]19.9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]30.2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]69[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1993[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Ana[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Brian Anderson[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]OH[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]19.8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]29.9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]70[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1987[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]71[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Mil[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Jaime Navarro[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CC[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]FL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]24.4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]29.8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]71[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1989[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]20[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]518[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]SD[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Tim Worrell[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]14.4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]29.2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]72[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1991[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]11[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Sea[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Shawn Estes[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]NV[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]21.1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]29.2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]73[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1987[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]7[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]165[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Minn[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Mark Guthrie[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]14.1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]29.1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]74[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1995[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]54[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Cinn[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Brett Tomko[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]FL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]18.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]28.8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]75[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1993[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]86[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]SD[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Matt Clement[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]PA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]23.2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]28.7[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]76[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1987[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]140[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Chi-NL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Frank Castillo[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]TX[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]12.7[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]28.7[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]77[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1996[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]StL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Braden Looper[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]KS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]19.2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]28.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]78[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1993[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]7[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]212[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Col[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]John Thomson[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]JC[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]TX[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]20.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]28.1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]79[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1996[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]21[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Col[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Jake Westbrook[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]GA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]28.1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]28.1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]80[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1993[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]165[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Det[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Brian Moehler[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]NC[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]23.0[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]27.9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]81[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1987[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]123[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Mil[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Steve Sparks[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]TX[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]22.6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]27.5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]82[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1989[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]14[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]371[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Minn[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Mike Trombley[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]NC[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]21.6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]27.5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]83[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1993[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]223[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Cle[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Steve Kline[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]WV[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]20.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]27.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]84[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1995[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]69[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Pitt[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Bronson Arroyo[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]FL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]26.4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]26.5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]85[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1996[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Tor[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Billy Koch[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]SC[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]26.2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]26.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]86[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1996[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]29[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]862[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Chi-NL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Kyle Lohse[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]26.2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]26.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]87[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1991[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]111[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Chi-NL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Terry Adams[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]AL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]19.6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]26.1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]89[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1990[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]103[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Chi-AL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]James Baldwin[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]NC[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]22.7[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]25.5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]90[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1995[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]13[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Minn[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Mark Redman[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]OK[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]23.0[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]25.1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]91[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1996[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]20[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]594[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Hou[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Wade Miller[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]PA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]24.7[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]25.0[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]92[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1988[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]190[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Atl[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Mark Wohlers[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]MA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]21.7[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]24.8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]93[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1989[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]15[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]386[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]SF[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Patrick Rapp[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]MS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]19.4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]24.6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]94[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1996[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Pitt[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Kris Benson[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]SC[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]16.8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]24.5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]95[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1991[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]SD[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Joey Hamilton [/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]GA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]20.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]24.4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]96[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1993[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]28[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Col[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Jamey Wright[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]OK[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]17.4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]24.4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]97[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1990[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]22[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Tor[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Steve Karsay[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]NY[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]19.1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]24.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]98[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1995[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]66[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Tex[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Ryan Dempster[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CAN[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]12.7[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]24.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]99[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1992[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Cle[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Paul Shuey[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]NC[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]18.2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]23.9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]100[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1996[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]22[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Sea[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Gil Meche[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]16.9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]23.7[/color] [/td]
Car Rank Year Rd Pick Team Name Position School State PreFA Career
1 1990 1 20 Bal Mike Musina RHP C CA 49.9 122.7
2 1987 1 9 KC Kevin Appier RHP JC CA 47.1 85.0
3 1990 22 577 NYY Andrew Pettitte LHP HS TX 40.8 83.7
4 1989 11 288 Cinn Trevor Hoffman SS C AZ 36.3 80.6
5 1991 8 206 Minn Brad Radke RHP HS FL 43.9 76.6
6 1988 8 200 Pitt Tim Wakefield 1B C FL 29.3 69.9
7 1993 1 12 Hou Billy Wagner LHP C VA 35.4 66.6
8 1991 8 214 Sea Derek Lowe RHP HS MI 44.0 64.1
9 1994 5 140 Mon Javier Vasquez RHP HS PR 40.7 60.8
10 1990 6 157 Sea Mike Hampton LHP HS FL 29.1 56.5
11 1989 4 111 Minn Scott Erickson RHP C AZ 35.7 55.9
12 1987 5 127 Tor Mike Timlin RHP C TX 16.3 55.7
13 1995 1 17 Tor Roy Halladay RHP HS CO 40.1 55.6
14 1990 2 44 Chi-AL Bob Wickman RHP C WI 22.9 55.5
15 1991 8 215 Chi-NL Steve Trachsel RHP C CA 24.0 55.0
16 1988 1 1 SD Andy Benes RHP C IL 30.6 54.3
17 1996 23 684 Hou Roy Oswalt RHP JC MS 54.2 54.2
18 1987 1 5 Chi-AL Jack McDowell RHP C CA 40.3 53.7
19 1988 28 732 Tor Woody Williams RHP C TX 21.1 53.5
20 1988 1 17 Cle Charles Nagy RHP C CT 36.8 53.2
21 1987 32 822 Tex Robb Nen RHP HS CA 31.6 52.4
22 1990 1 4 Chi-AL Alex Fernandez RHP CC FL 38.8 52.3
23 1989 1s 27 Hou Todd Jones RHP C FL 23.5 51.0
24 1990 6 175 Ana Troy Percival C C CA 28.9 50.9
25 1991 1 23 Bos Aaron Sele RHP C WA 30.7 49.3
26 1992 2 44 KC Jon Lieber RHP C AL 24.1 48.4
27 1993 11 320 Atl Kevin Millwood RHP HS NC 31.0 48.4
28 1994 9 256 SF Keith Foulke RHP C ID 36.2 47.1
29 1989 3 85 Minn Denny Neagle LHP C MN 25.9 46.3
30 1991 8 205 Atl Jason Schmidt RHP HS WA 16.4 46.1
31 1987 30 773 Hou Darryl Kile RHP CC CA 21.5 45.7
32 1991 44 1156 NYM Jason Isringhausen RHP JC IL 17.2 45.2
33 1993 2 49 Bos Jeff Suppan RHP HS CA 28.5 44.1
34 1988 1 4 Bal Gregg Olson RHP C AL 29.3 43.0
35 1989 6 161 Bos Paul Quantrill RHP C WI 22.4 42.2
36 1987 2 33 Sea David Burba RHP C OH 21.1 42.2
37 1990 21 553 Minn Ed Guardado LHP CC CA 16.7 42.1
39 1995 2 31 Ana Jarrod Washburn LHP C WI 32.7 41.6
40 1995 1 12 StL Matt Morris RHP C NJ 25.5 41.5
41 1989 3 72 Hou Shane Reynolds RHP C TX 32.2 40.9
42 1993 1 15 Tor Chris Carpenter RHP HS NH 19.3 39.0
43 1989 1 1 Bal Ben McDonald RHP C LA 27.9 38.6
44 1995 6 159 SF Joe Nathan RHP C NY 38.3 38.5
45 1992 1 22 Tex Rick Helling RHP C CA 29.0 38.2
46 1995 1 4 Chi-NL Kerry Wood


Once again, we see Mussina, with 50% more WARP than the 2nd highest pitcher, dominate all pitchers drafted in this period.

And Wakefield falls all the way down to… 6th. Wakefield is still pitching well at age 41 so it’s very difficult to guess how much longer he will continue to pitch. He should be able to pass Radke, but will not likely get much past 80 WARP. Looking down the list, it looks five pitchers below him could reasonably be expected to pass him. In terms of career WARP production, it’s pretty unlikely that Wakefield will end his career much lower than the 10th best pitcher drafted in this ten year period. It really is astounding.

You can use this table to get a feel for how many pitchers hit certain thresholds from the draft. It looks like the 10th most productive pitcher will end up in the 75-80 WARP range. That’s one pitcher per draft on average.

Look at the pitchers in the 11th to 20th range and you already see a lot of pitchers who topped out in the mid-50s and not a lot of great bets to blow past them behind that group. One of the points I made in my previous post about players at the top of the draft is that really good position players can rack up very large career totals, but a lot of elite pitchers seem to fall apart in the 50-ish WARP range. Now, perhaps these days with greater emphasis on pitch counts and better medical care this won’t be the case for pitchers now entering pro ball, but in this period when pitchers hit the 50 WARP mark they were often near the end of the line.

A quick look at the pitchers who ranked in the #x0 spot gives a feel for how fast the quality drops off.

#10 – Mike Hampton – 56.5
#20 – Charles Nagy – 53.2
#30 – Jason Schmidt – 46.1
#40 – Matt Morris – 41.5
#50 – Kirk Rueter – 35.6
#60 – Rheal Cormier – 31.9
#70 – Jamie Navarro – 29.8
#80 – Brian Moehler – 27.9
#90 – Mark Redman – 25.1
#100 – Gil Meche – 23.7

Meche is actually pretty decent (and very active) in the last spot, but I think you see a pretty nice break point between Matt Morris, a very solid mid-rotation starter, at #40 and Kik Rueter, a smoke and mirrors back of the rotation guy, at #50.

A team that drafts the 4th best pitcher in a draft class and gets a Matt Morris-type is thrilled. A team that drafts the 5th best pitcher in a draft class and gets a Kirk Rueter-type probably doesn’t realize how fortunate it’s been. The fan base certainly does not.

Let’s also look at just pre-FA production. That gives a little cleaner look at the high peak performers.

All Drafted Pitchers – Ranked by Pre-FA WARP

Table
[td=*][color="#000000"]Pre-FA Rank[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Car Rank[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Year[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Rd[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Pick[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Team[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Name[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Position[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]School[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]State[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]PreFA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Career[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]17[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1996[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]23[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]684[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Hou[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Roy Oswalt[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]JC[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]MS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]54.2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]54.2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1990[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]20[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Bal[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Mike Musina [/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]49.9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]122.7[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1987[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]KC[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Kevin Appier[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]JC[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]47.1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]85.0[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1991[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]214[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Sea[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Derek Lowe[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]MI[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]44.0[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]64.1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1991[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]206[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Minn[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Brad Radke[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]FL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]43.9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]76.6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1990[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]22[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]577[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]NYY[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Andrew Pettitte[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]TX[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]40.8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]83.7[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]7[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1994[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]140[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Mon[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Javier Vasquez[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]PR[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]40.7[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]60.8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]18[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1987[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Chi-AL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Jack McDowell[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]40.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]53.7[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]13[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1995[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]17[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Tor[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Roy Halladay[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CO[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]40.1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]55.6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]10[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]22[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1990[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Chi-AL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Alex Fernandez[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CC[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]FL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]38.8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]52.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]11[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]44[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1995[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]159[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]SF[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Joe Nathan[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]NY[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]38.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]38.5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]12[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]20[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1988[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]17[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Cle[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Charles Nagy[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CT[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]36.8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]53.2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]13[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1989[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]11[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]288[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Cinn[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Trevor Hoffman[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]SS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]AZ[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]36.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]80.6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]14[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]28[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1994[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]256[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]SF[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Keith Foulke[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]ID[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]36.2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]47.1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]15[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]11[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1989[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]111[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Minn[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Scott Erickson[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]AZ[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]35.7[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]55.9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]16[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]7[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1993[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]12[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Hou[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Billy Wagner[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]VA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]35.4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]66.6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]17[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]46[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1995[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Chi-NL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Kerry Wood[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]TX[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]35.2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]37.9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]18[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]55[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1995[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]103[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]SF[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Russ Ortiz[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]OK[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]34.7[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]34.8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]19[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]39[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1995[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]31[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Ana[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Jarrod Washburn[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]WI[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]32.7[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]41.6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]20[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]41[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1989[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]72[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Hou[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Shane Reynolds[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]TX[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]32.2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]40.9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]21[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]58[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1996[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]10[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]293[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Tex[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Doug Davis[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CC[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]32.1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]32.1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]22[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]21[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1987[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]32[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]822[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Tex[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Robb Nen[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]31.6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]52.4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]23[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]27[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1993[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]11[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]320[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Atl[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Kevin Millwood[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]NC[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]31.0[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]48.4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]24[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]47[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1988[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Ana[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Jim Abbott[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]MI[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]31.0[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]37.7[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]25[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]25[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1991[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]23[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Bos[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Aaron Sele[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]WA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]30.7[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]49.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]26[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]16[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1988[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]SD[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Andy Benes[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]IL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]30.6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]54.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]27[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1988[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]200[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Pitt[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Tim Wakefield[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1B[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]FL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]29.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]69.9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]28[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]34[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1988[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Bal[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Gregg Olson[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]AL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]29.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]43.0[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]29[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]10[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1990[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]157[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Sea[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Mike Hampton[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]FL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]29.1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]56.5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]30[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]45[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1992[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]22[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Tex[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Rick Helling[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]29.0[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]38.2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]31[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]24[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1990[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]175[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Ana[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Troy Percival[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]28.9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]50.9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]32[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]64[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1994[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]101[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Cle[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Danny Graves[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]FL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]28.8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]30.8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]33[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]33[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1993[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]49[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Bos[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Jeff Suppan[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]28.5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]44.1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]34[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]57[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1988[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Atl[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Steve Avery[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]MI[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]28.4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]33.2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]35[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]79[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1996[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]21[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Col[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Jake Westbrook[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]GA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]28.1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]28.1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]36[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]43[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1989[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Bal[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Ben McDonald[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]27.9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]38.6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]37[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]84[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1995[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]69[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Pitt[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Bronson Arroyo[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]FL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]26.4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]26.5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]38[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]85[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1996[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Tor[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Billy Koch[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]SC[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]26.2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]26.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]39[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]86[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1996[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]29[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]862[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Chi-NL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Kyle Lohse[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]26.2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]26.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]40[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]29[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1989[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]85[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Minn[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Denny Neagle[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]MN[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]25.9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]46.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]41[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]40[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1995[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]12[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]StL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Matt Morris[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]NJ[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]25.5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]41.5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]42[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]56[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1989[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]17[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Mil[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Cal Eldred[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]IA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]25.5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]34.7[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]43[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]59[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1996[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]20[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]NYY[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Eric Milton[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]MD[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]24.8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]32.0[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]44[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]91[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1996[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]20[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]594[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Hou[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Wade Miller[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]PA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]24.7[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]25.0[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]45[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]70[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1987[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]71[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Mil[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Jaime Navarro[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CC[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]FL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]24.4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]29.8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]46[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]67[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1996[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]23[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]688[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Ted Lilly[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CC[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]24.2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]30.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]47[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]26[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1992[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]44[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]KC[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Jon Lieber [/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]AL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]24.1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]48.4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]48[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]15[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1991[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]215[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Chi-NL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Steve Trachsel[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]24.0[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]55.0[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]49[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]23[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1989[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1s[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]27[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Hou[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Todd Jones[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]FL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]23.5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]51.0[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]50[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]75[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1993[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]86[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]SD[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Matt Clement[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]PA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]23.2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]28.7[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]51[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]80[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1993[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]165[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Det[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Brian Moehler[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]NC[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]23.0[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]27.9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]52[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]90[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1995[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]13[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Minn[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Mark Redman[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]OK[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]23.0[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]25.1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]53[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]14[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1990[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]44[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Chi-AL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Bob Wickman[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]WI[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]22.9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]55.5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]54[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]89[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1990[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]103[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Chi-AL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]James Baldwin[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]NC[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]22.7[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]25.5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]55[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]66[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1989[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]201[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Cle[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Curtis Leskanic[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]22.6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]30.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]56[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]81[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1987[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]123[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Mil[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Steve Sparks[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]TX[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]22.6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]27.5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]57[/color] [/td][td=*] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1994[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]161[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Sea[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Joe Mays[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]FL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]22.6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]22.6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]58[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]35[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1989[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]161[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Bos[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Paul Quantrill[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]WI[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]22.4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]42.2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]59[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]52[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1988[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]63[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Tex[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Darren Oliver[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]22.4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]35.2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]60[/color] [/td][td=*] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1994[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]13[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]355[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Bos[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Carl Pavano[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CT[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]22.4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]23.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]61[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]62[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1995[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]217[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]NYM[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]A.J. Burnett[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]AR[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]21.9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]31.4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]62[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]92[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1988[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]190[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Atl[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Mark Wohlers[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]MA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]21.7[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]24.8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]63[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]82[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1989[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]14[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]371[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Minn[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Mike Trombley[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]NC[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]21.6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]27.5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]64[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]31[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1987[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]30[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]773[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Hou[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Darryl Kile[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CC[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]21.5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]45.7[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]65[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]50[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1991[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]18[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]477[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Mon[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Kirk Rueter[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C [/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]KY[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]21.5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]35.6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]66[/color] [/td][td=*] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1987[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]230[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]SF[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Gil Heredia[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]AZ[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]21.5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]22.5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]67[/color] [/td][td=*] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1991[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1s[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]32[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Det[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Justin Thompson[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]TX[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]21.5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]21.4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]68[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]63[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1994[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]SD[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Dustin Hermanson[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]OH[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]21.4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]31.0[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]69[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]65[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1994[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]144[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]SF[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Bobby Howry[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]21.4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]30.4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]70[/color] [/td][td=*] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1988[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]7[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]163[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Cle[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Greg McMichael[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]TN[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]21.4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]22.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]71[/color] [/td][td=*] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1994[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]12[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]331[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]KC[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Jose Rosado[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]JC[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]TX[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]21.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]21.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]72[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]19[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1988[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]28[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]732[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Tor[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Woody Williams[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]TX[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]21.1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]53.5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]73[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]36[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1987[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]33[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Sea[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]David Burba[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]OH[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]21.1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]42.2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]74[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]53[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1996[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]155[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]AZ[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Brad Penny[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]OK[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]21.1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]34.9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]75[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]72[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1991[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]11[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Sea[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Shawn Estes[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]NV[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]21.1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]29.2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]76[/color] [/td][td=*] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1995[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]25[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]678[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Sea[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Brian Fuentes[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]JC[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]21.1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]21.0[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]77[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]49[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1987[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1s[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]27[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Bal[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Pete Harnisch[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]NY[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]20.7[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]36.1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]78[/color] [/td][td=*] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1988[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]236[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]StL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Mark Clark[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CC[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]IL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]20.4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]19.9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]79[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]78[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1993[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]7[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]212[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Col[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]John Thomson[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]JC[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]TX[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]20.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]28.1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]80[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]83[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1993[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]223[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Cle[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Steve Kline[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]WV[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]20.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]27.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]81[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]95[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1991[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]SD[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Joey Hamilton [/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]GA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]20.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]24.4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]82[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]68[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1987[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]16[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]SF[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Mike Remlinger[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]NH[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]19.9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]30.2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]83[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]69[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1993[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Ana[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Brian Anderson[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]OH[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]19.8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]29.9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]84[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]87[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1991[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]111[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Chi-NL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Terry Adams[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]AL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]19.6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]26.1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]85[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]93[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1989[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]15[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]386[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]SF[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Patrick Rapp[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]MS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]19.4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]24.6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]86[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]42[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1993[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]15[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Tor[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Chris Carpenter[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]NH[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]19.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]39.0[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]87[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]77[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1996[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]StL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Braden Looper[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]KS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]19.2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]28.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]88[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]97[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1990[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]22[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Tor[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Steve Karsay[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]NY[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]19.1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]24.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]89[/color] [/td][td=*] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1989[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]231[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]NYY[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Sterling Hitchcock[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]FL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]19.0[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]21.9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]90[/color] [/td][td=*] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1992[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]164[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Mil[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Scott Karl[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HI[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]19.0[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]19.0[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]91[/color] [/td][td=*] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1996[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]86[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Col[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Shawn Chacon[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CO[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]18.9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]19.0[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]92[/color] [/td][td=*] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1990[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]17[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]445[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Cle[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"] Dave Mlicki[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]OK[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]18.8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]20.4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]93[/color] [/td][td=*] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1996[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]11[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Phl[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Adam Eaton[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]WA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]18.5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]19.2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]94[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]74[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1995[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]54[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Cinn[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Brett Tomko[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]FL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]18.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]28.8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]95[/color] [/td][td=*] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1992[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]23[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]642[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Sea[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Ryan Franklin[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]JC[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]OK[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]18.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]21.7[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]96[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]99[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1992[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Cle[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Paul Shuey[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]NC[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]18.2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]23.9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]97[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]61[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1991[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]112[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Cle[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Paul Byrd[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]18.1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]31.7[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]98[/color] [/td][td=*] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1991[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]25[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]656[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Sea[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Matt Mantei[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]MI[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]18.1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]17.4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]99[/color] [/td][td=*] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1988[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]112[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Atl[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Steve Wendell[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CT[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]18.0[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]22.1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]100[/color] [/td][td=*] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1991[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1s[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]36[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]NYM[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Bobby Jones[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]17.9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]21.0[/color] [/td]


Only nine pitchers cleared 40 WARP – 5 HS, 2 JC and 2 C. The HS pitchers aren’t classic “Aces”, but the table does fit the “HS = upside” stereotype. And it’s also true that behind that group there are a large number of pretty good C pitchers.

And doing the every 10th player thing:

#10 – Alex Fernandez – 38.8
#20 – Shane Reynolds – 32.2
#30 – Rick Helling – 29.0
#40 – Denny Neagle – 25.9
#50 – Matt Clement – 23.2
#60 – Carl Pavano – 22.4
#70 – Greg McMichael – 21.4
#80 – Steve Kline – 20.3
#90 – Scott Karl – 19.0
#100 – Bobby Jones – 17.9

The 10th best pitcher was probably just outside what would commonly be viewed as an “Ace”. The next three pitchers were all solid #2 type starters. Clement and Pavano had their moments so it’s important to point out that the pre-FA only table is definitely deeper and that reflects the fact that so many pitchers flame out not long after hitting free agency. Beyond that, drafting the 70th most productive pre-FA pitcher in a 10 year period gets a team… Greg McMichael. Eh.

Oh, and Wakefield drops from 6th on the career table to a still impressive 27th on this table.

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Posted 25 June 2008 - 09:50 PM

One of the things I intend to eventually do is to integrate international players into my draft studies to create yearly “amateur classes” that includes players both from the draft and international free agents. This is a small enough niche area to do that, so let’s look at all of the notable international pitchers signed in this period. I haven’t separated their careers into pre and post-FA so we’ll just do a career table.

All International Free Agent Pitchers – Ranked by Career WARP

Table
Year Team Name Country Career
1988 LA Pedro Martinez Dominican 114.2
1990 NYY Mariano Rivera Panama 91.7
1993 Cle Bartolo Colon Dominican 64.4
1995 Hou Johan Santana Venezuela 55.8
1992 Tor Kelvim Escobar Venezuela 55.3
1996 Fla Livan Hernandez Cuba 54.2
1990 Bal Armando Benitez Dominican 52.9
1991 Pitt Esteban Loaiza Mexico 49.2
1990 Mon Ugueth Urbina Venezuela 47.1
1993 Hou Freddy Garcia Venezuela 46.2
1987 LA Pedro Astacio Dominican 44.6
1995 LA Hideo Nomo Japan 41.9
1991 LA Ismael Valdez Mexico 41.2
1994 LA Chan Ho Park Korea 38.8
1994 Det Francisco Cordero Dominican 38.3
1988 Mon Miguel Batista Dominican 37.3
1995 LA Eric Gagne Canada 33.9
1993 Bal Sidney Ponson Aruba 30.4
1990 Cle Julian Tavarez Dominican 30.4
1993 NYM Octavio Dotel Dominican 29.5
1988 NYM Hector Carrasco Dominican 27.4
1989 Mon Antonio Alfonseca Dominican 26.4
1991 NYY Ramiro Mendoza Panama 25.2
1990 LA Omar Daal Venezuela 24.8
1993 Pitt Elmer Dessens Mexico 24.6
1990 Atl Armando Reynoso Mexico 24.3
1995 SD Rodrigo Lopez Mexico 23.1
1987 KC Hipolito Pichardo Dominican 22.1
1994 Atl Odalis Perez Dominican 21.3
1996 Phl Carlos Silva Venezuela 21.2
1996 Pitt Francisco Cordova Mexico 21.0
1995 Ana Ramon Ortiz Dominican 20.7
1995 LA Antonio Osuna Mexico 20.7
1989 SF Salomon Torres Dominican 20.4
1990 NYM Guillermo Mota Dominican 19.8
1990 Atl Esteban Yan Dominican 19.6
1992 Sea Damoso Marte Dominican 19.2
1996 Minn Juan Rincon Venezuela 18.3
1994 NYY Tony Armas Venezuela 18.0
1988 Tor Graeme Lloyd Australia 17.0
1996 Mon Jorge Julio Venezuela 16.8
1993 Bos Rafael Betancourt Venezuela 15.9
1993 LA Dennys Reyes Mexico 13.8


Finally, with Pedro Martinez there is a no doubt Hall of Fame starter signed in this period. And right behind him is another HoF pitcher and the greatest modern closer.

The next two starters – Colon and Santana – were both aces and Cy Young winners (ok, Colon’s came at Santana’s expence, but that’s still three between the two of them).

It’s interesting that if you looked at just the top 3 starters and top closer from each sub-group that the international and JC groups despite drawing from a much smaller, generally less expensive pool out performed the HS and C pitchers in this period.

Intl: Martinez, Santana, Colon and Rivera
JC: Oswalt, Appier, Alex Fernandez and Jason Isringhausen
C: Mussina, McDowell, Nagy and Hoffman
HS: Halladay, Pettitte, Radke and Nen

Obviously, the HS and C ranks are much deeper, but just in terms of elite talent the international group is by far the best.

The other that jumps out from this table is the productivity of the Dodgers in this period. Yes, they didn’t keep Martinez, but not to far down the list is a quartet of pretty good pitchers who helped form the Dodgers “UN rotation” in the late 90s.

The Dominican and Venezuela dominate as expected, but Mexico was surprisingly productive. Panama also has a high WARP total, but that’s almost all Rivera.

Table
Country Number WARP
Dominican 17 608.5
Venezuela 10 319.4
Mexico 8 217.9
Panama 2 116.9
Cuba 1 54.2
Japan 1 41.9
Korea 1 38.8
Canada 1 33.9
Aruba 1 30.4
Australia 1 17.0


And finally the big enchilada table of every amateur (and oh, I guess I have Nomo in the international table too) pitcher signed from 1987-1996.

Table
[td=*]CA [/td][td=*]53.7 [/td][td=*]25 [/td][td=*]1988 [/td][td=*]28 [/td][td=*]732 [/td][td=*]Tor [/td][td=*]Woody Williams [/td][td=*]RHP [/td][td=*]C [/td][td=*]TX [/td][td=*]53.5 [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]26[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1988[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]17[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Cle[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Charles Nagy[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CT[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]53.2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]27[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1990[/color] [/td][td=*] [/td][td=*] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Bal[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Armando Benitez[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Intl[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Dominican[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]52.9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]28[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1987[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]32[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]822[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Tex[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Robb Nen[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]52.4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]29[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1990[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Chi-AL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Alex Fernandez[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CC[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]FL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]52.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]30[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1989[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1s[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]27[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Hou[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Todd Jones[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]FL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]51.0[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]31[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1990[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]175[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Ana[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Troy Percival[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]50.9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]32[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1991[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]23[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Bos[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Aaron Sele[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]WA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]49.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]33[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1991[/color] [/td][td=*] [/td][td=*] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Pitt[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Esteban Loaiza[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Intl[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Mexico[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]49.2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]34[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1992[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]44[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]KC[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Jon Lieber [/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]AL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]48.4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]35[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1993[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]11[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]320[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Atl[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Kevin Millwood[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]NC[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]48.4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]36[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1994[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]256[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]SF[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Keith Foulke[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]ID[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]47.1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]37[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1990[/color] [/td][td=*] [/td][td=*] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Mon[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Ugueth Urbina[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Intl[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Venezuela[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]47.1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]38[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1989[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]85[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Minn[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Denny Neagle[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]MN[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]46.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]39[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1993[/color] [/td][td=*] [/td][td=*] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Hou[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Freddy Garcia[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Intl[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Venezuela[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]46.2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]40[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1991[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]205[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Atl[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Jason Schmidt[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]WA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]46.1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]41[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1987[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]30[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]773[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Hou[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Darryl Kile[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CC[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]45.7[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]42[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1991[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]44[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1156[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]NYM[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Jason Isringhausen[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]JC[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]IL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]45.2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]43[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1987[/color] [/td][td=*] [/td][td=*] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Pedro Astacio[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Intl[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Dominican[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]44.6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]44[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1993[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]49[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Bos[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Jeff Suppan[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]44.1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]45[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1988[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Bal[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Gregg Olson[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]AL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]43.0[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]46[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1989[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]161[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Bos[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Paul Quantrill[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]WI[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]42.2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]47[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1987[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]33[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Sea[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]David Burba[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]OH[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]42.2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]48[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1990[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]21[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]553[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Minn[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Ed Guardado[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CC[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]42.1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]49[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1995[/color] [/td][td=*] [/td][td=*] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Hideo Nomo[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Intl[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Japan[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]41.9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]50[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1987[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]13[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]324[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Atl[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Mike Stanton[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CC[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]TX[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]41.7[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]51[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1995[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]31[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Ana[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Jarrod Washburn[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]WI[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]41.6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]52[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1995[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]12[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]StL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Matt Morris[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]NJ[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]41.5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]53[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1991[/color] [/td][td=*] [/td][td=*] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Ismael Valdez[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Intl[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Mexico[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]41.2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]54[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1989[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]72[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Hou[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Shane Reynolds[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]TX[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]40.9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]55[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1993[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]15[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Tor[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Chris Carpenter[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]NH[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]39.0[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]56[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1994[/color] [/td][td=*] [/td][td=*] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Chan Ho Park[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Intl[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Korea[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]38.8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]57[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1989[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Bal[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Ben McDonald[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]38.6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]58[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1995[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]159[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]SF[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Joe Nathan[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]NY[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]38.5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]59[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1994[/color] [/td][td=*] [/td][td=*] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Det[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Francisco Cordero[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Intl[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Dominican[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]38.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]60[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1992[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]22[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Tex[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Rick Helling[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]38.2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]61[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1995[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Chi-NL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Kerry Wood[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]TX[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]37.9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]62[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1988[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Ana[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Jim Abbott[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]MI[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]37.7[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]63[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1988[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]34[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Bal[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Arthur Rhodes[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]TX[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]37.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]64[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1988[/color] [/td][td=*] [/td][td=*] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Mon[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Miguel Batista[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Intl[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Dominican[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]37.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]65[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1987[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1s[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]27[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Bal[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Pete Harnisch[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]NY[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]36.1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]66[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1991[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]18[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]477[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Mon[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Kirk Rueter[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C [/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]KY[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]35.6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]67[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1988[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]82[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Tor[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]David Weathers[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CC[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]TN[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]35.5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]68[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1988[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]63[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Tex[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Darren Oliver[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]35.2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]69[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1996[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]155[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]AZ[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Brad Penny[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]OK[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]34.9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]70[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1991[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]7[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]180[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Minn[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LaTroy Hawkins[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]IN[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]34.9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]71[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1995[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]103[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]SF[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Russ Ortiz[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]OK[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]34.8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]72[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1989[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]17[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Mil[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Cal Eldred[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]IA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]34.7[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]73[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1995[/color] [/td][td=*] [/td][td=*] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Eric Gagne[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Intl[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Canada[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]33.9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]74[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1988[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Atl[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Steve Avery[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]MI[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]33.2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]75[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1996[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]10[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]293[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Tex[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Doug Davis[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CC[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]32.1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]76[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1996[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]20[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]NYY[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Eric Milton[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]MD[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]32.0[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]77[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1988[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]158[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]StL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Rheal Cormier[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CC[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RI[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]31.9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]78[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1991[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]112[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Cle[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Paul Byrd[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]31.7[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]79[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1995[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]217[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]NYM[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]A.J. Burnett[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]AR[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]31.4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]80[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1994[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]SD[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Dustin Hermanson[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]OH[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]31.0[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]81[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1994[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]101[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Cle[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Danny Graves[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]FL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]30.8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]82[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1994[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]144[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]SF[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Bobby Howry[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]30.4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]83[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1990[/color] [/td][td=*] [/td][td=*] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Cle[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Julian Tavarez[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Intl[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Dominican[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]30.4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]84[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1993[/color] [/td][td=*] [/td][td=*] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Bal[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Sidney Ponson[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Intl[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Aruba[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]30.4[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]85[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1989[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]201[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Cle[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Curtis Leskanic[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]30.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]86[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1996[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]23[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]688[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Ted Lilly[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CC[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]30.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]87[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1987[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]16[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]SF[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Mike Remlinger[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]NH[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]30.2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]88[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1993[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Ana[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Brian Anderson[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]OH[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]29.9[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]89[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1987[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]71[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Mil[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Jaime Navarro[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CC[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]FL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]29.8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]90[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1993[/color] [/td][td=*] [/td][td=*] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]NYM[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Octavio Dotel[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Intl[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Dominican[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]29.5[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]91[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1989[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]20[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]518[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]SD[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Tim Worrell[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]29.2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]92[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1991[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]11[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Sea[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Shawn Estes[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]NV[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]29.2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]93[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1987[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]7[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]165[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Minn[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Mark Guthrie[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]LA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]29.1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]94[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1995[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]54[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Cinn[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Brett Tomko[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]FL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]28.8[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]95[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1993[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]86[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]SD[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Matt Clement[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]PA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]28.7[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]96[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1987[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]140[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Chi-NL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Frank Castillo[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]TX[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]28.7[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]97[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1996[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]StL[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Braden Looper[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]KS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]28.3[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]98[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1993[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]7[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]212[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Col[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]John Thomson[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]JC[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]TX[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]28.1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]99[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1996[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]21[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Col[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Jake Westbrook[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]GA[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]28.1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]100[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1993[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]165[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Det[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Brian Moehler[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]RHP[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]NC[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]27.9[/color] [/td]
Car Rank Year Rd Pick Team Name Position School State Career
1 1990 1 20 Bal Mike Musina RHP C CA 122.7
2 1988 LA Pedro Martinez RHP Intl Dominican 114.2
3 1990 NYY Mariano Rivera RHP Intl Panama 91.7
4 1987 1 9 KC Kevin Appier RHP JC CA 85.0
5 1990 22 577 NYY Andrew Pettitte LHP HS TX 83.7
6 1989 11 288 Cinn Trevor Hoffman SS C AZ 80.6
7 1991 8 206 Minn Brad Radke RHP HS FL 76.6
8 1988 8 200 Pitt Tim Wakefield 1B C FL 69.9
9 1993 1 12 Hou Billy Wagner LHP C VA 66.6
10 1993 Cle Bartolo Colon RHP Intl Dominican 64.4
11 1991 8 214 Sea Derek Lowe RHP HS MI 64.1
12 1994 5 140 Mon Javier Vasquez RHP HS PR 60.8
13 1990 6 157 Sea Mike Hampton LHP HS FL 56.5
14 1989 4 111 Minn Scott Erickson RHP C AZ 55.9
15 1995 Hou Johan Santana LHP Intl Venezuela 55.8
16 1987 5 127 Tor Mike Timlin RHP C TX 55.7
17 1995 1 17 Tor Roy Halladay RHP HS CO 55.6
18 1990 2 44 Chi-AL Bob Wickman RHP C WI 55.5
19 1992 Tor Kelvim Escobar RHP Intl Venezuela 55.3
20 1991 8 215 Chi-NL Steve Trachsel RHP C CA 55.0
21 1988 1 1 SD Andy Benes RHP C IL 54.3
22 1996 23 684 Hou Roy Oswalt RHP JC MS 54.2
23 1996 Fla Livan Hernandez RHP Intl Cuba 54.2
24 1987 1 5 Chi-AL Jack McDowell RHP C


If you look at the top 20 pitchers – all with at least 55.0 career WARP the breakdown is:

C – 8 (including Wakefield, Hoffman and some definite accumulators)
HS – 6
Intl – 5
JC – 1

I think that’s a pretty good testament to the importance of being good at signing and developing every kind of talent. You can have a good farm if you can hit on any two of the HS-C-Intl groups, but any team that only gets talent from one is going to be in trouble.

And, really this time, one last thing.

Where did the Hall of Fame pitches come from in this period?

The college ranks produced on definite in Hoffman, although he’s certainly a fluke. I think Mussina will have the statistical record to make it, but his perceived value makes him a fringe, borderline candidate at this point.

The only two candidates from JC are Appier and Oswalt. Appier was very good and underrated, but he doesn’t deserve it and has no chance. Oswalt had a great early career, but is struggling this year and isn’t clearly on track.

The best HS pitcher who is even somewhat on track is Halladay. And at age 31 with 119 wins and a propensity for getting hit with line drives I’m not sure how good his chances really are. Is it possible that the only Hall of Fame pitcher drafted in this ten period will be Hoffman the college shortstop?

The international market produced two first ballot pitchers – Martinez and Rivera. With a couple Cy Youngs and a several year period as the consensus best pitcher in baseball, Johan Santana, is on track, but has a long way to go.

This down period for drafted pitchers and the HoF really stands out in contrast for the incredible burst of HoF pitchers in the mid-1980s.

Table
[td=*][color="#000000"]Pitcher[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Sign Year[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Rd[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]School[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Roger Clemens[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1983[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Greg Maddux[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1984[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Tom Glavine[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1984[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]John Smoltz[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1985[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]22[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Randy Johnson[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1985[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Curt Schilling[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1986[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]2[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]JC[/color] [/td]


That’s a three 300 game winners, including two over 350, and maybe a 4th in Johnson. And, uh, a lot of Cy Youngs.

That’s really an incredible group of historically great pitchers in just a four year stretch.

There are three more no doubt pitchers towards the end that decade.

Table
[td=*][color="#000000"]Pitcher[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Sign Year[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Rd[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]School[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Pedro Martinz[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1988[/color] [/td][td=*] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Intl[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Trevor Hoffman[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1989[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]11[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Mariano Rivera[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1990[/color] [/td][td=*] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Intl[/color] [/td]


And then what?

Table
[td=*][color="#000000"]Pitcher[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Sign Year[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Rd[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]School[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Note[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Mike Mussina[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1991[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]stats, but rep?[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Billy Wagner[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1993[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]iffy stats, bit of a choker rep?[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Johan Santana[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1995[/color] [/td][td=*] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Intl[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]on track[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Roy Halladay[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1995[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]behind Santana, but basically on track[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Roy Oswalt[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1996[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]23[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]JC[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]coming off track?[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Tim Hudson[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1997[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]6[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]C[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]not really[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Carlos Zambrano[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1997[/color] [/td][td=*] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Intl[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]very good early, will he hold up?[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]CC Sabathia[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1998[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]same, but better[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Francisco Rodriguez[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1998[/color] [/td][td=*] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Intl[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]going to have a crap load of saves[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Josh Beckett[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1999[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]way too early[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]Jake Peavy[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]1999[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]15[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]HS[/color] [/td][td=*][color="#000000"]same, but without the rings[/color] [/td]


I don’t want to be one of those old curmudgeon’s saying nobody will ever win 300 games again, but the 90s sure don’t seem ripe with strong candidates for the Hall of Fame, at least not to the standards that the mid-80s pitchers have set.

Someone – maybe even someone not in that list – will be great throughout his 30s and rack up wins and awards and make himself a more obvious candidate.

I think this is likely going to help pitchers like Schilling and Mussina. I’ve seen some blowback about Schilling’s eventual candidacy that as voters move further from his post-season glory his low win total will stick out. That may be, but it will also be that as the no-doubters from his era are already enshrined he’ll move out from under their shadows and voters may wonder – if not Schilling and Mussina, then whom?
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